[Harvey Specter]

I seen this on yahoo's career section, kind of surprised they make that much money. Do CDN air traffic controllers make the same money?

Career: Air Traffic Controllers
Direct mid-air traffic and keep airports running safely and efficiently as an air traffic controller. These skilled workers come from a range of fields; some have flying or military experience, while others work directly out of school. Education is required for most air traffic controllers, who need to have work or college experience before enrolling in a dedicated controller training program.

BLS annual wage: $108,090
BLS = Bureau of Labor Statistics
Top paying states: Illinois, New Hampshire, Minnesota, California

[chouchou]

I'm actually not too surprised.. With the levels of stress and pressure, few would consider this as an avid career unless the salary was decent. But that's still pretty amazing if one's able to keep content and calm while working the job. The only question is that who's going to be able to manage when something srs goes down.

[snowball]

i've watched a TLC documentary on air traffic controllers, the amount of stress they have to endure is insane, especially in high traffic airports

[Harvey Specter]

Yes, the job is very stressful and the shifts are killer but for $100,000+ it's not a bad job.

[Blinky]

Yes, the job is very stressful and the shifts are killer but for $100,000+ it's not a bad job.

Those can be pretty big drawbacks, and most people aren't able, or willing, to shoulder the responsibility. At a large airport, you literally have the lives of thousands of people in your hands. Simultaneously.

http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=Air_Traffic_Controller/Salary

[rslater]

I have NO problem with them getting paid this much. I do not want air traffic controlers making 40 k a year when im taking a flight.

[urrh]

i couldn't do the job.
my mind wanders too much and would cause too many deaths

[SuperSlowSS]

that doesn't sound like alot. one mistake... alot people will die.

[Soundy]

Go watch "Pushing Tin" if you haven't seen it... I remember reading when it came out that, despite being very "Hollywoodized", it gives a pretty good idea of the kind of pressure these guys work under.

And if nothing else, it's worth it for a young, nubile Angelina Jolie.

[StylinRed]

thats not a lot... seems about right

[skyxx]

Go watch "Pushing Tin" if you haven't seen it... I remember reading when it came out that, despite being very "Hollywoodized", it gives a pretty good idea of the kind of pressure these guys work under.

And if nothing else, it's worth it for a young, nubile Angelina Jolie.

When you said nubile, all I could think of is the website.:cry: Damn i'm such a perv..............:mad:

[CRS]

When you said nubile, all I could think of is the website.:cry: Damn i'm such a perv..............:mad:

I'm afraid to ask but....

What website?

[will068]

In YVR, you start at 80,000 as a newbie. Training and extra expense are all covered for. Obviously it goes up from there.

[CRS]

In YVR, you start at 80,000 as a newbie. Training and extra expense are all covered for. Obviously it goes up from there.

My friend's dad is an ATC at YVR. He's making some good money, however, I don't envy his job and responsibilities.

Every dot on the screen is 200+ lives.

[impactX]

They deserve way over 80 or 100k for what they do.

[3seriesBeeM]

I am pretty sure it was named as the worlds most stressful job. i dont even think they work 8 hour days

[Darb 2k]

Actually my father is an ATC. Now Medicine Hat AB does not get anywhere close to the number of movements that YVR does, but there are other factors that determine how stressful it can be,

Runway Configuration
Local Noise Abatement
Terrain(Mountains)

Any interested in pursuing this career should know that starting out can be hard. The schooling is demanding, you are required to pay for yourself to go to school as well as during the time you are in school. Also look forward to moving anywhere in Canada where the position requires you.

[CRS]

Actually my father is an ATC. Now Medicine Hat AB does not get anywhere close to the number of movements that YVR does, but there are other factors that determine how stressful it can be,

Runway Configuration
Local Noise Abatement
Terrain(Mountains)

Any interested in pursuing this career should know that starting out can be hard. The schooling is demanding, you are required to pay for yourself to go to school as well as during the time you are in school. Also look forward to moving anywhere in Canada where the position requires you.

I don't understand how this doesn't apply to anything above post secondary.

[misteranswer]

I don't understand how this doesn't apply to anything above post secondary.

No PhD student really pays tuition. As far as I know, all PhD student qualify for "funding". Where I went, they get 10k for jsut for going, and that's on top of being a TA and RA.

But any professional program (law school, mba, doctors, etc) pretty much requires you to pay your own way. I would assume ATC is one of them, but I don't even know where someone goes to learn to be an ATC.

[slammer111]

My sister and her friend both went to ATC training in Cornwall, Ontario. Both passed all the aptitude tests, but cracked under the pressure during the on-site training phase. My sister worked at Hamilton and her friend at Trenton, which aren't even crazy busy.

As people are saying above, 1 mistake and you could be responsible for 500+ deaths if 2 jetliners collide. Even if it's not your fault, that's one helluva burden on your conscience forever.

VFR (Visual Flight Rules) where you sit on top of the tower pays less than IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) where you're staring at radar screens in a dark room in the basement.

[shenmecar]

This job can really fuck up a person for life.

[Meowjin]

I don't see the problem.

[JSALES]

that doesn't sound like much, they should get paid more

[Dragon-88]

Microsoft Flight Simulator X let you be ATC in multiplayer... Those guys take it seriously... One time I had a "engine failure" on my plane, and ATC sent me a military escort..:P... I wonder if they ever practice on there.

[Harvey Specter]

Microsoft Flight Simulator X let you be ATC in multiplayer... Those guys take it seriously... One time I had a "engine failure" on my plane, and ATC sent me a military escort..:P... I wonder if they ever practice on there.

Lol, Vatsim is cool.

[Dragon-88]

Lol, Vatsim is cool.

More info?

[Harvey Specter]

More info?

Here you go; http://www.vatsim.net/

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

100g isnt that much guys. especially for a job like this? lol any high stress job should pay "a lot", and 100g's isn't "a lot". hell after taxes it's more like 50g's, that sucks buddy. sucks big time. if i had all those lives in my hands, i'd want way more. this job is like ... 0 room for mistake.

[achiam]

i couldn't do the job.
my mind wanders too much and would cause too many deaths

Me neither. I have mild Attention Deficit Disorder. I would probably have Facebook/MSN running on another monitor.

[Rich Sandor]

In YVR, you start at 80,000 as a newbie. Training and extra expense are all covered for. Obviously it goes up from there.



IFR and VFR Air Traffic Controllers
Air Traffic Controllers are a skilled and knowledgeable group of professionals. The salaries and benefits we pay reflect this. As an Air Traffic Controller, you can earn between $57,000 and $123,000 per year depending on your position, facility type and location, and your level of experience. You’ll also enjoy comprehensive health coverage and excellent pension benefits.

We also pay for on-the-job training following the initial training program. Your on-the-job training salary is approximately $33,000 per year.


Flight Service Specialists
Flight Service Specialists are professionals providing an important information service to pilots across the country. As a NAV CANADA Flight Service Specialist, you’ll receive a competitive salary with a range that offers room for growth—between $42,000 and $86,000 per year depending on your facility, location and years of experience on the job. You’ll also enjoy comprehensive health coverage and excellent pension benefits.

We also pay for on-the-job training after initial classroom instruction. Your training salary is approximately $30,000 per year.



Initial training lasts 4 tp 14 months (depending on whether you go IFR/VFR or FSS) and you DO NOT get paid during initial training. In fact, you pay for your own tuition. ($1000-$3500cdn)

[twitchyzero]

100k sounds about right for the stress they endure though.