[tgill]

answered questions:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6533861&postcount=12 (lots of photos)
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6534583&postcount=40
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6538044&postcount=66
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6538058&postcount=67 (bus connections)

Canada Line linking Vancouver and Richmond to open Aug. 17

By Kelly Sinoski, Vancouver Sun

METRO VANCOUVER - The new Canada Line linking downtown Vancouver and Richmond will officially open to the public on Monday, Aug. 17, three weeks ahead of Labour Day and three months ahead of schedule.

Commuters can get a free ride on the 19-kilometre rapid transit line, which will run from 1 p.m. until 9 p.m. on opening day to accommodate any potential crowds outside the morning rush hour. No bikes or pets allowed on opening day.

The line will open for regular SkyTrain hours the next day, with the first train leaving Waterfront 4:50 a.m., Richmond Brighouse at 5:05 a.m. and the airport at 5:10 a.m.

The journey between Waterfront and Richmond-Brighouse takes about 26 minutes and costs a two-zone fare of $3.75 per single trip. Passengers heading to the airport will pay a surcharge of $2.50, bringing the fare to $6.25 per single trip but their tickets will be good for 90 minutes.

However, the surcharge won’t come into effect for at least the first four months of operation as TransLink has agreed to defer the Canada Line-YVR add fare until 2010.

The $2-billion Canada Line, which is part of the government’s $14-billion investment in public transit, is equivalent to a 10-lane road between Vancouver and Richmond and is expected to take 200,000 one-way trips off the road system. It was originally slated to open in November but the date was then pushed ahead to Labour Day.

It's now opening another three weeks earlier than planned even though work is still continuing on many of the 16 stations. The new line boasts trains that are longer, wider and have more capacity (**** LOL WRONG CANADALINE PLATFORMS ARE MAX EXPANDABLE TO 50M, SKYTRAIN IS ALREADY LONGER AND ARE IN THE WORKS TO BE EXTENDED****) than trains on the existing two SkyTrain lines to accommodate passengers who will be hauling luggage to and from the airport.

The project, overseen by TransLink subsidiary Canada Line Rapid Transit Inc, has had its share of controversy since it was conceived four years ago. At the time, several municipalities opposed the project, saying it wasn't a priority project in Metro Vancouver and raising concerns about the way TransLink was funding future transportation projects.

The project, originally cited to cost $1.5 billion but in the end cost $2 billion, was nearly killed several times but survived.

It then caused a furore when those building it decided to build a cut-and-cover section along Cambie Street, where merchants complained the dug-up construction zone was prohibiting customers from accessing their shops and killing their businesses.

Several merchants moved out. Others, such maternity shop owner Susan Heyes, successfully sued TransLink, InTransitBC and the Canada Line Rapid Transit for causing a nuisance. She was awarded $600,000 in damages earlier this year.

Meanwhile, TransLink expects to have to subsidize the Canada Line for at least four years before ridership is high enough to reach a break-even point.

The cost is a large part of the reason for the financial crunch that has TransLink looking for as much as $450 million a year in additional funding to operate Metro Vancouver's transit system and its major roads. The rapid transit line was built as public-private partnerships, and in agreements with its partners, TransLink took on most of the "ridership risk."

That means TransLink will have to subsidize the until ridership hits forecast levels, which the regional transportation authority acknowledges will take years. The Canada Line isn't expected to see its projected 100,000 riders a day until 2013.

© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun
http://www.vancouversun.com/Canada+L...013/story.html

just so you guys know canada line is operated by private contractor PROTRANSIT (for 30 years) who are paid by translink based on performance.

The trains are traditional rail using physical brakes and slower accelerations, skytrain has no motors and uses magnets to move and brake.
http://www.canadaline.ca/OPENING/image/station_map.gif

[Vansterdam]

sounds awesome

[van_driver]

great news its opening ahead of schedule

[tgill]

great news its opening ahead of schedule
internally the its on schedule, for months its been know it would open in august. They always set schedule dates farther out for pr reasons on projects like this one.

[KingDeeCee]

So what line do you take to go to the YVR and Brighouse? Or are they on the same line, which makes no sense.

[yellowpower]

Isnt Vancouver city centre already like within walking distance or waterfront?
But other than that its gunna be awesome, they have the stations at the mall too!

[MDMA]

sweeeeeeet

[twitchyzero]

do they have turnstiles for the canada line?

[Synaptik]

now all the hobos will move from surrey central/kg to aberdeen. yay!

[R8]

Now where's that Evergreen Line? fuuuuuuuuuuuu

[alex.w *//]

woot free ride from van to richmond!

[tgill]

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2009-07-15/images/IMG_2229.jpg

So what line do you take to go to the YVR and Brighouse? Or are they on the same line, which makes no sense.
alternating one yvr one richmond/brighouse, led signs on outside next to doors and in front of train display destination
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2061/img2759l.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1068/cline8waterfrontstnnext.jpg
http://buzzer.translink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/waterfront-train.jpg

Isnt Vancouver city centre already like within walking distance or waterfront?
But other than that its gunna be awesome, they have the stations at the mall too!
canadaline waterfront station connects to the old waterfront terminal building
vancouver CITY Centre entrance is infront of SEARS at georgia and granville
and has connectors to Pacific centre next to sony style store (store hours only) and vancouver center mall (store hours only)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2030/img2744x.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1209/img2746qmy.jpg

do they have turnstiles for the canada line?
no, every skytrain station is being retrofitted next year and the zone system will be abolished for smart cards that are based on distance (like hong kongs octopus pass), the good news is canada line stations are built for turnstiles
example : see where the handicap turnstile is? there will turnstiles there
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9560/cline28yvrplatform.jpg
templeton same thing!
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/831/cline32templetonplatfor.jpg
you know those white circles on the skytrain ticket machines they are for smart pass! now see the updated machines the translink circle is the relocated smart pass reader
http://buzzer.translink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/img_2690.jpg

Now where's that Evergreen Line? fuuuuuuuuuuuu
next (under environmental studies stage)then ubc extension of millennium line (although translink needs 400more million a year, bylaw they cannot run a deficit)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2518/3761850533_e3ef257588_b.jpg

[asian_XL]

I am sure there will be fewer cars on the road and solve the craziness on oak and cambie every evening.
If I still live near brighouse, Skytrain can pretty much take me to anywhere and it costs few bucks.

25min to downtown area, I can't even do it without driving at 80km/h and without any traffic light

[cococly]

They are asking me to buy permit to park right outside my house.....

It's stupid. The new station is like a 10mins walk from here....

Parking in the garage is a must from now on.....

[JSALES]

might wanna take a ride on the train just to see how it is

[wahyinghung]

Good Stuff hope the C-lai's use the Canada line to their advantage

[Synaptik]

looks like this thing doesnt connect with the millenium/expo except at waterfront. what a shame for the metrotown crowd. shoulda made broadway a hub too.

[JSALES]

hopefully later on, they'll consider adding a connection to one popular station

[ASG111]

looks like this thing doesnt connect with the millenium/expo except at waterfront. what a shame for the metrotown crowd. shoulda made broadway a hub too.

yeah, so the metro crowed will have to skytrian to waterfront, then take 26 mins to go to richmond centre.. so maybe 1 hour total still?

i thought it would connect, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[KingDeeCee]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1209/img2746qmy.jpg

OH HAI.

Shit seriously, can't wait. Wonder how packed it will be.

[tgill]

looks like this thing doesnt connect with the millenium/expo except at waterfront. what a shame for the metrotown crowd. shoulda made broadway a hub too.
hopefully later on, they'll consider adding a connection to one popular station
yeah, so the metro crowed will have to skytrian to waterfront, then take 26 mins to go to richmond centre.. so maybe 1 hour total still?

i thought it would connect, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
the trains are not SKYTRAIN technology which uses magnets to stop and move trains, the trains are traditional subway ie brakes and motors. The trains are physically different, and are limited to 40m trains (smaller than current skytrain trains byfar) but are slightly wider. PROTRANSBC is the private contractor that built line and the will be running it for 30 years under contract before handing it to translink. Canada line has a separate control center and Translink collects all revenue & pays protransBC based on reliability and satisfaction. The easiest connection until the Millennium line is extended from VCC-CLARK to UBC along broadway, is GRANVILLE and walk to georgia and get on Canada line.


sum it up: government went with Private contractor partnership to save as much money as possible and rejected Bombardier's Skytrain tech which was slightly more in cost. TRAINS ARE DIFFERENT AND NO WAY TO CONNECT TO SKyTRAIN.

[tgill]

OH HAI.

Shit seriously, can't wait. Wonder how packed it will be.

likely insane considering private contractors cheeped out and built stations to current adaquate usage so hella short platforms and low capacity compared to existing skytrain! :thumbsup:

[way2quik]

So what line do you take to go to the YVR and Brighouse? Or are they on the same line, which makes no sense.

Probably a whole separate train to the Airport? :confused:

[Durrann1984]

huuge crowd gonna test it out

[SpuGen]

I give it a month until someone jumps.

[goo3]

yeah, so the metro crowed will have to skytrian to waterfront, then take 26 mins to go to richmond centre.. so maybe 1 hour total still?

i thought it would connect, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

B-Line to Cambie @ Broadway? Don't know how long it is if you do it that way.

[The_AK]

At least these trains aren't as ugly as the previous skytrain.
Question:
So are these trains controlled by an actual human or are they controlled from a separate control center like the skytrain?

[BNR32_Coupe]

At least these trains aren't as ugly as the previous skytrain.
Question:
So are these trains controlled by an actual human or are they controlled from a separate control center like the skytrain?

control center like skytrain. overhead would be too much and meaningless for a train operator

[ASG111]

air con in these ones?

[The_AK]

control center like skytrain. overhead would be too much and meaningless for a train operator

then i guess its safe to say Terrurstz aren't gonna hijack our skytrains and crash them into the airport

/mixed feelings

[CRS]

air con in these ones?

Yes!

This one and the old newer ones have it.

It is only the old ass block shaped ones that do not have aircon and that blasts heat year round.

[sh0n]

I'm stoked for this opening. I'm a lover of all rapid and mass transit.

One thing I don't understand and agree with the RS crowd is how come they didn't build a station that connects straight to the Expo / Millennium line.

It kinda seems counter intuitive that you have to go to waterfront first and then backtrack on the Expo line to go to Vancouver East / Burnaby / Surrey area. I can understand the waterfront station as it feeds into North Vancouver and into Mission for the west coast express

What they should have done was built the current waterfront station and also expand the Granville station into a hub that meets with the Canada line

There are pros and con's I guess - cause it would be a triple bottle neck for the Granville station - but still any other metro city in the world would have the station to be the closest / less travel distance if possible. You shouldn't have to travel further and then backtrack - seems like a waste of time

[CRS]

I'm stoked for this opening. I'm a lover of all rapid and mass transit.

One thing I don't understand and agree with the RS crowd is how come they didn't build a station that connects straight to the Expo / Millennium line.

It kinda seems counter intuitive that you have to go to waterfront first and then backtrack on the Expo line to go to Vancouver East / Burnaby / Surrey area. I can understand the waterfront station as it feeds into North Vancouver and into Mission for the west coast express

What they should have done was built the current waterfront station and also expand the Granville station into a hub that meets with the Canada line

There are pros and con's I guess - cause it would be a triple bottle neck for the Granville station - but still any other metro city in the world would have the station to be the closest / less travel distance if possible. You shouldn't have to travel further and then backtrack - seems like a waste of time

Bingo!

They should have added connections from Broadway and another from Edmonds. That would be the most efficient but it would also cause the most havoc to build. It would also make Broadway into a true hub and it could simply just add it to the millennium line.

Since it the millennium line really only goes to VCC, now it COULD go to the airport as well as possibly along broadway to UBC.

[Tapioca]

One thing I don't understand and agree with the RS crowd is how come they didn't build a station that connects straight to the Expo / Millennium line.

It kinda seems counter intuitive that you have to go to waterfront first and then backtrack on the Expo line to go to Vancouver East / Burnaby / Surrey area. I can understand the waterfront station as it feeds into North Vancouver and into Mission for the west coast express

What they should have done was built the current waterfront station and also expand the Granville station into a hub that meets with the Canada line


Pacific Centre will act as a semi-hub between the Canada Line and Expo Line. You can walk underground between the two lines through the mall. Obviously, Translink had to cut costs somewhere because a sensible solution would have cost more.

Instead of extending the Millenium Line all the way to UBC, Translink should just focus on getting it to Cambie/Broadway. If the Evergreen Line is built, this would give people in East Van, Burnaby, and the Tri-Cities a rapid connection to the Airport. Population growth is mainly to the east of Vancouver anyway. But, other than a deep tunnel, I don't know where else they would lay down the tracks beyond VCC.

[asian_XL]

they seriously need to consider installing screen doors...it's fucking unsafe without them

http://pslink.co.kr/eng/img/pro/img1.jpg

[hotjoint]

So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport?

[Chairman Kaga]

So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport?

Yes

[Tapioca]

they seriously need to consider installing screen doors...it's fucking unsafe without them

http://pslink.co.kr/eng/img/pro/img1.jpg

Installing these throughout the system would be a waste of money, IMHO. It's not like we're having people fall onto the tracks every day. The accidents that have occured have been people who have chosen to jump. We don't have the passenger volumes like HK, Tokyo, etc. to justfiy these.

At most, we would have them at select stations like Broadway and Metrotown.

[Qmx323]

RS MEET AT ABERDEEN STATION? WE CAN ALL GO TAKE STICKY PICS AFTER KEKEKEKE ^^

[tgill]

So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport?
yes canada line is a seperate station/platform inside waterfront hub

Installing these throughout the system would be a waste of money, IMHO. It's not like we're having people fall onto the tracks every day. The accidents that have occured have been people who have chosen to jump. We don't have the passenger volumes like HK, Tokyo, etc. to justfiy these.

At most, we would have them at select stations like Broadway and Metrotown.
not possible on existing lines because the mk1 (box style cars) have doors in different locations and they are going to refurbish them for use til 2030. Plus the new cars mk2, are currently using the A-B config but planning to add a middle car so A-C-B, doors would limit any expansion. Canada Line it is possible however because the built it cheap and no room for expansion beyond 50m.

Pacific Centre will act as a semi-hub between the Canada Line and Expo Line. You can walk underground between the two lines through the mall. Obviously, Translink had to cut costs somewhere because a sensible solution would have cost more.

Instead of extending the Millenium Line all the way to UBC, Translink should just focus on getting it to Cambie/Broadway. If the Evergreen Line is built, this would give people in East Van, Burnaby, and the Tri-Cities a rapid connection to the Airport. Population growth is mainly to the east of Vancouver anyway. But, other than a deep tunnel, I don't know where else they would lay down the tracks beyond VCC.
any millennium line extension is 10years down the road, westside treehugers and anti anything think that skytrain is terrible and want the government to build LIGHT RAIL on broadway (streetcar, SF Muni) which will take 2 lanes from broadway and be limited to traffic law 50km/h, traffic lights. TERRIBLE

-TURNSTILES (everystation) and distance based smartcard are going in NEXT YEAR
- Existing renos are a go for Main Street and Metrotown are in for a drastic change after olympics including platform extensions, and new bus loop in metros case.
- SURREY expansion for expo line is a go after evergreen starts contruction
- Evergreen is a go for real SKYTRAIN after consultation and the sorts is done

[brianau9]

who are u Tgill? do u work for protrans

[StylinRed]

just so you guys know canada line is operated by private contractor PROTRANSIT (for 30 years) who are paid by translink based on performance.

The trains are traditional rail using physical brakes and slower accelerations, skytrain has no motors and uses magnets to move and brake.

i didnt know that, that sucks

they should add another route connecting the richmond station to New West or Surrey and bring the skytrain out to maple ridge :)

[RFlush]

i love how everbody who is able has their hand out asking/demanding more money saying how there isn't enough for them to operate... yet its been operating fine for decades and decades off of taxes

and taxes(and tax revenue) has gone up more than inflation
i didnt know that, that sucks

they should add another route connecting the richmond station to New West or Surrey and bring the skytrain out to maple ridge :)



OH THE FUCKING IRONY

[Tapioca]

any millennium line extension is 10years down the road, westside treehugers and anti anything think that skytrain is terrible and want the government to build LIGHT RAIL on broadway (streetcar, SF Muni) which will take 2 lanes from broadway and be limited to traffic law 50km/h, traffic lights. TERRIBLE



Light Rail is a dead end unless streets are constructed with a dedicated centre lane from the start.


-TURNSTILES (everystation) and distance based smartcard are going in NEXT YEAR
- Existing renos are a go for Main Street and Metrotown are in for a drastic change after olympics including platform extensions, and new bus loop in metros case.


Turnstiles and a distance-based SmartCard are long overdue, though I can see opposition from those who travel long distances and will end up paying more per trip.

I use the system on a daily basis and ideally, I think the platforms at Metrotown and Broadway should be twinned. There is way too much traffic on the centre platform for both stations. It would probably cost several million dollars to do this though.

BTW, the new Mark II cars are pretty nice. Lit station maps and less seating for more standees. Hopefully we'll see Translink use double cars for all runs soon.

[Great68]

skytrain has no motors and uses magnets to move and brake.

I'm a nitpicker...

They do have a motor, called a linear induction motor... It's like a regular AC motor with its stator rolled flat.

This is different in operation to "mag lev" trains.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

meh dont care


useless for me

[StylinRed]

OH THE FUCKING IRONY

not really at all

the funding/money earned by these outlets should be enough for operating costs and to save for new projects

you think they're just breaking even? puh lease

[tgill]

who are u tGill? do u work for protrans
I cant say much more than I work for the MoT ;)

[twitchyzero]

So if you're coming from surrey, you have to go to waterfront then get onto another skytrain that goes to the airport?

get off at broadway station then take 99 b-line to the city hall station. b-lines run every 3-5min during peak hours

[tgill]

not really at all

the funding/money earned by these outlets should be enough for operating costs and to save for new projects

you think they're just breaking even? puh lease
in Boston they have a state run transportation agency, recieves 1% of 5% state TAX = 8 billion dollars in debt.

translink legally cannot run a deficit, would you like them to grow money trees?
CANADA LINe, new skytrain lines, ontop of that hundreds of new buses, major station renovations, and new MK2 bombardier trains. + they manage the roads, GOLDEN EARS BRIDGE?, coast meridian overpass bridge.

maybe translink should just not build the new pattullo bridge?
if the federal and provincial government fully funded capital expenditures (like they did with expo and millennium lines) translink wouldn't need another 400 million

[dL]

Quite useless for me as the Canada Line doesn't even meet with the Skytrain except at Waterfront. Kind of stupid for people in the east to go to airport or Richmond.

Now if they expand the Millenium line, then we're talking.

dL

[KingDeeCee]

Quite useless for me as the Canada Line doesn't even meet with the Skytrain except at Waterfront. Kind of stupid for people in the east to go to airport or Richmond.

Now if they expand the Millenium line, then we're talking.

dL

If you want to go to Richmond, it is still way faster than take the bus.

[hongy]

woot aberdeen, faster to get to richmond food now.

[goo3]

[B]Plus the new cars mk2, are currently using the A-B config but planning to add a middle car so A-C-B, doors would limit any expansion.

During rush hour, the frequency of trains between waterfront and columbia is pretty much back to back. Does this mean that it's not possible to have more frequent service where expo and millenium don't overlap (eg. vcc <=> columbia, columbia <=> surrey)?

[In_MODeration]

What will happens to the b line buses?

[illicitstylz]

need some clarification !

richmond -> SFU

take a richmond station (eg brighouse or yvr etc ) to waterfront, then take the skytrain from there?

seems simple enough!

[hotjoint]

The lil wayne concert is also on August 17th. Watch all these gangster looking kids hop aboard the skytrain that day from richmond :lol

[RFlush]

need some clarification !

richmond -> SFU

take a richmond station (eg brighouse or yvr etc ) to waterfront, then take the skytrain from there?

seems simple enough!

Should still be faster to take 410 to 22nd station then skytrain to production.

[skiiipi]

they really need to connect like the station on marine drive and cambie to the 22nd station with like an express bus, not the 100 bus which stops every 2 blocks. they need like almost a shuttle service
tat would make life a lot more convinent

[fobulaus]

Can you guys imagine how long it takes to go from YVR to King George?

[hkRicer]

There will be more crime rate in richmond then...with all these crazy people coming from downtown.

[Eff-1]

What will happens to the b line buses?

Will be discontinued.

[CorneringArtist]

Can you guys imagine how long it takes to go from YVR to King George?

Well, it's about 25 minutes from YVR to Waterfront, and 39 from Waterfront to KG, so maybe an hour in total?

This'll make it a bit easier to go to Richmond from Surrey. I would rather take trains for an hour than bus down. Also, I can go to malls that my family has never visited since some of the buses are a pain in the ass to get to on those routes.

[twitchyzero]

they should use the current 98 b-line to connecti between broadway stn and one of the new stations, somehow..

[scheng924]

they should use the current 98 b-line to connecti between broadway stn and one of the new stations, somehow..

i was thinking of that too...
shuttle it between metro to broadway to new station somewhere...

[tgill]

need some clarification !

richmond -> SFU

take a richmond station (eg brighouse or yvr etc ) to waterfront, then take the skytrain from there?

seems simple enough!

if you want to compare routes the Canada Line is bus number 980 on translinks route planner

canada line does have the advantage of reliability and not being impeded by traffic

During rush hour, the frequency of trains between waterfront and columbia is pretty much back to back. Does this mean that it's not possible to have more frequent service where expo and millenium don't overlap (eg. vcc <=> columbia, columbia <=> surrey)?
I believe that current skytrain (not canada line) expo line fruns at near max headways, under 2mins. The best way to increase service is the addition of more 2 trains A-B A-B (thats what translink is doing right now with the new order) , and in the future A-C-B A-C-B which is possible (Beijing airport express same tech as skytrain is A-C-D-B)

here are the canada line frequencies
Until 7 a.m. Mon-Fri, 9 a.m. Sat and 10 a.m. Sun/Holidays 6 mins
Then until 6 p.m. every day 4 mins
6 p.m. - 11 p.m. 6 mins
11 p.m. until end of service 10 mins
dont forget to double in richmond since trains alternate between brighouse/richmond and yvr sea island

comparison between existing skytrain after 11pm

Skytrain Expo - 8 minutes*
Skytrain Millennium - 8 minutes*
Skytrain Canada - 20 minutes**

* combines Waterfront to Columbia to provide 4 minute headways
** combines Richmond and Airport branches Waterfront to Bridgeport to provide 10 minute headways

What will happens to the b line buses?

-bline busses are already used on a hastings express bus (there is talk of making that a B-LINE route)
-there is also talk of making the 43 east-west b-line route to UBC which would ease canada line travellers off the 99 B-Line

Can you guys imagine how long it takes to go from YVR to King George?
if you were to travel to waterfront 26 minutes from yvr + 39 to king george

[tgill]

http://www.translink.ca/en/Rider-Info/Canada-Line/~/media/Images/content/rider_info/canada_line/canadaline_map.ashx?w=354&h=794&as=1http://www.translink.ca/en/Rider-Info/Canada-Line/~/media/Images/content/rider_info/canada_line/Canada_Line_Map.ashx?w=350&h=761&as=1
add the Vancouver City Center is at Granville and West Georgia for a quick transfer to skytrain via the street and during mall hours there is an entrance to Pacific Center next to SEARS.

[brianau9]

so u work for intransitbc, snc, or protrans.......?

[tgill]

so u work for intransitbc, snc, or protrans.......?
as stated in previous post, i work for ministry of transportation. I'm not pro snc or protransbc, I would have preferred for the line to have been funded by government not p3 partnership, for many reasons but mostly because they only planned the line to be adequate for service, and not expandable unlike existing skytrain.

fyi inTransitBC was renamed to proTransBC (private operator)after Canada Line construction was complete, but on the trains they put inTransitBC lol.

[snowball]

they should use the current 98 b-line to connecti between broadway stn and one of the new stations, somehow..

the 99 line to UBC already connects Broadway to Broadway-City Hall

[danned]

just go there and see

[Amuse]

Broadway/city hall station:
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2009-08-04/images/IMG_3452.jpg
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2009-08-04/images/IMG_3439.jpg
take 99 bus and transfer over

waterfront elevator to train
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2009-08-04/images/IMG_3429.jpg

train at oakridge:
http://www.canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/2928.jpg

inside:
http://www.canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/2926.jpg

YVR station:
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2009-07-03/images/IMG_1338.jpg

Train at YVR:
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2009-07-03/images/IMG_1369.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-12-14/images/KICX4241.jpg

Canada Line train info:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1677/60266842ma4.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8453/17660134ac2.jpg

[twitchyzero]

they shouldve just named it City Hall Station..now people are going to get it confused with the Broadway Station on Expo/Millenium Line


-there is also talk of making the 43 east-west b-line route to UBC which would ease canada line travellers off the 99 B-Line
hope that becomes a reality..we need a east-west b-line

[tgill]

they shouldve just named it City Hall Station..now people are going to get it confused with the Broadway Station on Expo/Millenium Line


hope that becomes a reality..we need a east-west b-line

from what I've heard Broadway/Commerical is slowly being rebranded as Broadway-Commercial Drive, but a software technicality is preventing the announcements to be the same for what the system believes is two stations

once the future millennium line is completed BroadwayCityHall has been planned already to create a megastation for the cambie station including a future entrance on the northwest side of the intersection in the newish saveon-foods

some jackass has already graffitied a street entrance to the Canada Line downtown!

oh btw someone has posted tonnes of daily photos of the Canada Line for the last few years at
http://canadalinephotos.blogspot.com/

btw i'd like to correct some of the marketing of the Canada Line faq posted above
its true that that Canada Line cars are wider but how are Canada Line trains longer when most Canada Line stations are 40m platforms, expandable to 50m (some underground stations are already 50m because of the difficulty of future expansion) ?
Skytrain stations are all longer already at 80m and in the works to be expanded!
Canada Line tech is not more "modern" its the same old stuff used in traditional subway rail, LIM is more modern as it was created in the late 70s.

[secstasy]

omg , can't wait til opening day :D

[hotjoint]

might take it on opening day

[cody69]

man, i was sooooo looking forward to this, to go downtown.

wy cant they have it open later so that people can take the train back to richmond, instead of driving. last train leaves waterfront to richond at 1:15am, clubs dont get out till 2 or 3. the train then opens up at like 5:15

why not keep it open for that 4 hours?

[hk20000]

man, i was sooooo looking forward to this, to go downtown.

wy cant they have it open later so that people can take the train back to richmond, instead of driving. last train leaves waterfront to richond at 1:15am, clubs dont get out till 2 or 3. the train then opens up at like 5:15

why not keep it open for that 4 hours?

Because you drunken horny clubbers could totally wait so the system can be more affordable to those who don't club. :wooha:

[Tapioca]

man, i was sooooo looking forward to this, to go downtown.

wy cant they have it open later so that people can take the train back to richmond, instead of driving. last train leaves waterfront to richond at 1:15am, clubs dont get out till 2 or 3. the train then opens up at like 5:15

why not keep it open for that 4 hours?

With the exception of New York, no major city I can think of keeps their metro system open 24 hours. You need down time for maintenance, clean-up, etc.

Skytrain's hours are pretty reasonable. For example, Paris shuts down their system at 12:30 AM and the last train in Hong Kong leaves Central before 1 AM.

[misteranswer]

man, i was sooooo looking forward to this, to go downtown.

wy cant they have it open later so that people can take the train back to richmond, instead of driving. last train leaves waterfront to richond at 1:15am, clubs dont get out till 2 or 3. the train then opens up at like 5:15

why not keep it open for that 4 hours?

Take the night bus. Considering the traffic at night it probably takes about the same amount of time.

[CounterPuncher]

Will the upass work for the canada line?

[TypeRNammer]

Weird, I saw one of these new trains being operated on the Expo line =S

[CRS]

Will the upass work for the canada line?

Obviously.

[CounterPuncher]

Obviously.

No, not quite obviously.

A lot of the other fare cards won't work for the Canada Line without paying the add fare portion.

[misteranswer]

No, not quite obviously.

A lot of the other fare cards won't work for the Canada Line without paying the add fare portion.

What other fare cards? Is the question you're really asking, "Can I go to the airport with the upass without having to add an additional fare?"

[Rogue951]

Weird, I saw one of these new trains being operated on the Expo line =S

If you're talking about the canadaline trains then no, you didn't.
They're incompatable with the expo/millenium line system.
what u saw were probably one of the 2 new millenium line trains painted in the grey colors like the trolley buses.

[CRS]

If you're talking about the canadaline trains then no, you didn't.
They're incompatable with the expo/millenium line system.
what u saw were probably one of the 2 new millenium line trains painted in the grey colors like the trolley buses.

Ughhhh really?

Why would they be incompatible? That would be dumb.

[misteranswer]

Ughhhh really?

Why would they be incompatible? That would be dumb.

Because they do not run the same technology. In the bidding process, the additional savings from using the same technology as the other lines was not allowed to be factored in.

[Tapioca]

Ughhhh really?

Why would they be incompatible? That would be dumb.

The Canada Line features a wider track and uses a different propulsion system. This was done to save costs as the system used on the Expo/Millenium Lines is to put it simply, higher-tech.

[Rogue951]

Ughhhh really?

Why would they be incompatible? That would be dumb.

Domestic vs Import. haha

Expo/millenium is canadian made, the new canadaline trains are hyundai.

[TypeRNammer]

If you're talking about the canadaline trains then no, you didn't.
They're incompatable with the expo/millenium line system.
what u saw were probably one of the 2 new millenium line trains painted in the grey colors like the trolley buses.

Thanks for filling me in =) I'll keep an eye out for the new paint jobs

[beanzzz]

so... did anyone take it?

[winson604]

Apparently the wait is like an hour and there's like thousands of people waiting. No thanks I'll wait to check it out.

[hotjoint]

Apparently the wait is like an hour and there's like thousands of people waiting. No thanks I'll wait to check it out.

wait till 3pm when it becomes free ;)

[Not really racist!]

there was a huge lineup outside of city-hall when i was watching lunch television... ill hop on it next time, too many fucking ppl, 50,000 expected to ride on it today

[Euro7r]

It's nice to have easier access to downtown.

However, we pay to build it, and pay to use it, WTF! Ridiculous to me.

[skyxx]

Canada-line isn't owned by Translink technically. :)

[quasi]

It's nice to have easier access to downtown.

However, we pay to build it, and pay to use it, WTF! Ridiculous to me.

You pay for a vehicle and you pay to operate/maintain it. Is the difference?

[CorneringArtist]

I'm gonna ride it on Sunday. Hype should be pretty low by then.

[Meowjin]

i'd rather drive.

[ZhangFei]

richmond, enjoy your fair share of bums haha ;) :D

[Euro7r]

You pay for a vehicle and you pay to operate/maintain it. Is the difference?

Not if your car is under warranty, free maintenance until then lol

[silk]

i pay a visit to my woman, and riding her is free

[woob]

^you'll end up paying for it in medical bills

[TypeRNammer]

i pay a visit to my woman, and riding her is free

Can anyone please tell me why this sounds so dirty?!? :haha:

[JSALES]

i wish the train had opened earlier instead of my ass driving all the way to richmond

[woob]

Can anyone please tell me why this sounds so dirty?!? :haha:

Because "riding", in this context, is slang for the act of fornication.

[rageguy]

just got home from my canada line trip. cambie+49 station 30 minutes wait time. richmond centre 2.5-3 hours wait time. lansdowne 45-1 hour wait time. marine drive 45 minute wait time. this is as of 4pm.

trains are SUPER packed. this is comparable to MTR in hk, during rush hour. people touching people, arms rubbing with others. sweaty, hot and lots of B.O.

the trains all look nasty by now. the bars, doors and windows are covered with people's oil from touching them. the train itself moves really fast. crossing the fraser river took...1 minute. from marine drive to richmond centre took a measly 10 minutes or less.

[Not really racist!]

good to know i didn't go...

since i have a bus pass, ill be trying it out later....

wonder if its gonna still be packed at around 7~9

[Ikkaku]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/F_o_k/Image049-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/F_o_k/Image045.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/F_o_k/Image048.jpg

These were taken by my mother... this was taken from Waterfront at around 3'ish :lol

[woob]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/F_o_k/Image045.jpg

whoaa for a sec there I was like wtf Canada line doesn't go past Buchanan

[BeeBeeAhn]

^ haha that's around where I work. That line went all the way to hastings/granville, and then down hastings and around the corner at hastings and seymour. I went to grab a coffee and was quite surprised when I saw the crowd.

[?NR]

luckily I got to ride it on Saturday instead. Yes, crossing into Richmond is mere minutes. I want to check out the bike ledge/bridge on the lower side of the train bridge, supposedly it's quite a nice ride.

[124Y]

I was driving on No. 3 road today and saw the crowd LOL.

[Volvo-brickster]

yea seriously?

who the hell waits for 3 hours to ride public transportation for FUN ?

i work down town and saw the massive line ups...all i could do was shake my head

the novelty wears off after about 7 minutes

[E-40six]

did anyone notice in the pictures that most people who wanted to go on the FREE ride were asian? AHAHA

[ZhangFei]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/F_o_k/Image049-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/F_o_k/Image045.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/F_o_k/Image048.jpg

These were taken by my mother... this was taken from Waterfront at around 3'ish :lol

so many asians:eek:

[Tapioca]

I just got back from a ride on the new train. I rode it from Waterfront to YVR and back to Broadway where I got off. Here are my first impressions:

- Trains are fairly quiet and smooth. Definitely a step-up from the old Skytrain. Hopefully these are easier to maintain down the road.
- The trains are wider, but still not large enough. I can easily see people having a difficult time moving their bags during rush hour. Another 12-15 trains to increase frequency need to be purchased to make up for the lack of length.
- The trains have a scrolling display listing the next stop and final destination. It would help if they had an announcement for which side to exit.
- The speakers on the trains are poor quality. The announcements are barely audible and are muffled.
- The signage around stations is poor. The font is too small.
- The airport check-in stands are a nice touch.
- The stations look decent enough, if a little utilitarian. Workmanship seems adequate, but not excellent.

[skyxx]

I just got back. Today was definitely a gong-show. It was slow as fuck...lol

[Volvo-brickster]

so many asians:eek:

If thats what keeps the C-lai's off the road, thats fine by me:D

[Death2Theft]

I'm amazed at how many people didn't have to work and could afford to line up for this. However there isn't really a need to announce which side the exits are on, after a ride or two you'll know.

[liu13]

whoaa for a sec there I was like wtf Canada line doesn't go past Buchanan

lol yeah it does look like the tower

[goo3]

crazy lineup @ waterfront

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www.vancouversun.com/gallery+canada+line+opening+celebrations/1902037/1902642.bin?size=620x400

[rageguy]

nice picture. this is roughly the same length as the one at richmond centre.

[K-Dub]

^ ROFL @ Waterfront picture, that's just fucking dumb. I would not want to wait in that line up.

[Ikkaku]

I know, eh? And to think, a week or two down the line the lineups will be non-existent :lol

[Lancerion]

Millennium Line sure wasn't that crazy when it first opened.

[danned]

anyone had the stamps filled
i don't the bonus one,

is it in the lansdowne station? i saw oh buzz.translink

[rsx]

The people who lined up for this are a bunch of tools. It's not like the train's going anywhere..losers.

[pure.life]

maybe the government hired people to line up and cause a buzz so that they won't look bad for investing on the Canada Line.

[sh0n]

Rode the train today.

Here's how it all went down.

Boarded the train at the Cambie 49th station at 1:05 - waited 5 mins.

The station is decent, but then again you see one you see the rest with the only exception being the waterfront, airport and the ones that are not underground.

It took about 25 mins from Cambie and 49th to reach Waterfront. At first I was not impressed with the speed - they really had a lot of traffic and definitely alot of kinks that needed to be ironed out.

Luckily we stayed on the train (as we wanted to go to Richmond airport anyways).

It was about another 25-30 minutes until we reached richmond.

The ride on that new bridge is really nice - you get some good views of the mountains, vancouver and fraser river.

As we reached bridgeport - I was joking with another passenger that they should have called the station "Casino or Riverrock"

**Tip for all commuters - bridgeport station is where'd go to transfer to the airport. This is true unless you were able to board a YVR specific train coming from the waterfront station. The station attendent there told me that the trains alternate - I.E Train to brighouse / Train to YVR / Train to Brighouse - you get the picture. Its about anywhere from 2-5 minutes between the interval.

The gong show part of it was to the Airport. Everyone wanted to get there - and boy was the trains packed like sardines. I overheard one of the main controllers talking to the protrans traffic staff and another passenger in that the lineup was 12 blocks long at brighouse and 8,000 ppl that have either rode / or were waiting to get on at waterfront.

As we reached the Airport, we thought we should just stay on the train given the gong show it would have been to go out to check the station and line up again.

It was a good decision cause later when we got back to the bridgeport station at about 2:45 the attendent said that the wait at the airport was 2 hours.

We eventually went to aberdeen for afternoon tea. On my way out of the station at about 2:50 ish there was about 100 people lining up and my estimate was that it would have been a good 30-45 min wait.

After the afternoon tea we went back to the aberdeen station to check out the lineup - it had grew 2x in size. Said screw it and ended up cabbing it back to Vancouver.

As a summary not related to the story above:
- Gong show at all stations - anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hr wait just to get on
- Very impressed with the trains - its very smooth and quiet
- There were certainly kinks during the first day that need to be eventually ironed out
- All the stations look the same to me except waterfront, yvr and the ones that are not underground - overall they seem to be well built and are very nice.

What I liked:
- Happy to have the Canada line - we are the only canadian city that has a mass transit option from airport to downtown
- Loved the look of the new trains. They are pretty spacious and seats are comfortable
- Stations look well built, modern although it would be nice if they were more personalized just like millennium line

What I didn't like:
- Not enough signs
- They don't have that foldable seat near the door just like the old skytrains. That seat is $$$$$ cause you are so close to the door and you are able to have a seat
- For the handicapped people your only option is the mid car compartment as that cart is for the people with bikes and luggage. Its not like the old skytrain where you can fold the seat up and have enough room.
- Agree with one of the poster that the speaker system is not that audible - wish it was louder or more clear
- Also agree that more detailed instructions would be good similar to what HK has - i.e telling you to exit on your left or right and what the next station is

[Amuse]

Lineup at Rmd Ctr

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Some HD vids:

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[hal0g0dv2]

w0w went today, richmond fucking packed

[ziggyx]

I really like the architecture of some of the skytrain stations they look really nice.

[clowe]

Went to Brighouse, the line was too long and barely moving so I went to the Airport, the line was fairly long but was moving quite quickly, got on in like 40-45 minutes. Sea Island Centre and Templeton stations were quite empty, so if you went there, you could've got on and went all the way down to Waterfront without any wait time. The Canucks mascot, Fin, was at the airport signing autographs :p and giving away Canucks stickers.

[illicitstylz]

so stupid to wait 3-5 hours in line in order to just save the $4 canada line fare

[danned]

i didn't wait like 3- 5 hours
longest wait for me is nearly an hour

[way2quik]

not sure if this was mentioned, but with the new Canada Line, Translink is discontinuing the 98 B-Line, as well as the 424 (also the entire terminal) that goes to the Airport.

[Ikkaku]

not just the 98B but whiterock/ladner busses will not go downtown anymore... the passengers will be dropped off at Brighouse station, according to my mother.

[JSALES]

was it really worth waiting in line for?

[goo3]

It was like Disneyland or Expo86.. except you're waiting to get onto a train LOL.

I hopped on @ 7pm @ granville + georgia. No wait.. only reason I hopped on.

The underground platforms don't have enough space for ppl.. well there's space, but it's all behind the escalators. To get there, you have to go by the narrow space beside the escalators. Conveniently, there's always ppl who like to stand there and stay in the way. Weird.

[InvisibleSoul]

I've never even ridden the Millenium line for the full duration yet. :lol

[JSALES]

seems like there were a lot of chinese people on the train

[In_MODeration]

seems like there were a lot of chinese people on the train

LMAO!

[orange7]

when i'm back to Vancouver, I'm going to use my Upass (free ride) and test ride the track. And the best part is, there won't be a line up.

LoL at those whoe lined up. . . they are still not the first group of people to use the track. The track was tested before opening to the public.

[The_AK]

hmm,
Vancouver now seems more like a large city that can be taken seriously now with this established "metro". Am i the only one who feels this way?

[impactX]

No turnstile = fail.

[7seven]

I've never even ridden the Millenium line for the full duration yet. :lol

Got u beat, I haven't even ridden on the Millenium line at all, hell I haven't taken public transit since 1995

[CRS]

No turnstile = fail.

Coming in January... At the latest.

Don't worry! hahaha it is going to come!

[drunkrussian]

anyone know if the bridgeport park and ride is still gonna be $2 for all day parking? that's pretty lame, considering the other park and ride is free and connected to b-line...

[Tapioca]

not just the 98B but whiterock/ladner busses will not go downtown anymore... the passengers will be dropped off at Brighouse station, according to my mother.

These changes have been made to increase ridership levels to the magical 100,000/day that Translink needs to meet its contractural obligations with ProTrans (the private operator of the line.) People in South Surrey and Delta have already been complaining about this, but in the bigger picture, it makes sense as the 600-buses could only run on a half-hour to 45-minute frequency.

Once the airport fee is added, a one-way trip to YVR will cost $6.25 to $7.50 per person. For single travellers, that's not too bad considering the cost of similar metro connections to airports in other cities. It easily costs $30+ for a taxi ride to the airport, or if you're staying in a hotel downtown, the Airporter bus costs $13.50. Families will still opt for taxis.

[InvisibleSoul]

Got u beat, I haven't even ridden on the Millenium line at all, hell I haven't taken public transit since 1995
Just barely... the only time I've even been on the Millenium route was when I accidentally took a Millenium train instead of an Expo train and went a couple stops the wrong way. :p

[InvisibleSoul]

Wow, I can't believe there are that many people with enough free time to wait around for a few hours to ride on the new train...

[Chairman Kaga]

I've never even ridden the Millenium line for the full duration yet. :lol

I haven't even stepped foot onto any millenium line stations let alone been on there for a ride :haha:

[winson604]

I haven't even stepped foot onto any millenium line stations let alone been on there for a ride :haha:

LOL same. When that line opened I said I would check it out for the hell of it. Now years later not only have I not set foot onto that line but have yet to even step onto anything transit whatsoever. I want to check out the new line but chances are I probably won't haha.

[Expresso]

No not really, if they somehow managed to connect the Canada Line to the regular Expo/Mill. then maybe yes.
hmm,
Vancouver now seems more like a large city that can be taken seriously now with this established "metro". Am i the only one who feels this way?


No, actually 2012 now.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/08/14/bc-skytrain-canada-turnstiles-delayed.html
Coming in January... At the latest.

Don't worry! hahaha it is going to come!

[Ikkaku]

These changes have been made to increase ridership levels to the magical 100,000/day that Translink needs to meet its contractural obligations with ProTrans (the private operator of the line.) People in South Surrey and Delta have already been complaining about this, but in the bigger picture, it makes sense as the 600-buses could only run on a half-hour to 45-minute frequency.

I do not even want to imagine how packed those things will be during rush hour when everybody is scrambling to go home, especially fridays. It will be like Hong Kong, but with less people.

[Not really racist!]

train running today?

should go check it out

[HOTSHOTKEN]

it's running ... just not free (standard fare rules apply)
it's also running on regular hrs now ... it opened this morning at 4:50am

[Durrann1984]

[QUOTE=HachiSix;6552606]No not really, if they somehow managed to connect the Canada Line to the regular Expo/Mill. then maybe yes.

QUOTE]

lol but they are walking distancing away..from waterfront isnt it?

[Expresso]

[QUOTE=HachiSix;6552606]No not really, if they somehow managed to connect the Canada Line to the regular Expo/Mill. then maybe yes.

QUOTE]

lol but they are walking distancing away..from waterfront isnt it?

I meant before the end lol. Like at Broadway or Nanaimo or something in that area. It would go a long way in making our transit system similar to the ones in HK/TW etc...

[Durrann1984]

I do not even want to imagine how packed those things will be during rush hour when everybody is scrambling to go home, especially fridays. It will be like Hong Kong, but with less people.

i know we keep on talking bout olympics and everyones talkn about olympic this or olympic that

but i just wanna add OLYMPICS
is gonna be currrazzy

rush hour now...is even pretty bad

we're gonna get raped
with the whole world coming here

on the skytrain its like ur gonna have a big black dude on ur right and a big tall swede on your left..

[Gumby]

If they made it free for a week or two, then it wouldn't have been such a gong show.

There were TONS of asian seniors - the ones that push and shove whenever there is something offered for free.

[godwin]

more like Jan 2012

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/brings+lighter+traffic+parking+issues+Canada+Line/1905289/story.html

Coming in January... At the latest.

Don't worry! hahaha it is going to come!

[!Tigger]

what time do the trains stop running at? 1:30?

[?NR]

Got u beat, I haven't even ridden on the Millenium line at all, hell I haven't taken public transit since 1995

you're not the only one ;) :thumbsup:

[Peanut Butter Jelly Time!]

These changes have been made to increase ridership levels to the magical 100,000/day that Translink needs to meet its contractural obligations with ProTrans (the private operator of the line.) People in South Surrey and Delta have already been complaining about this, but in the bigger picture, it makes sense as the 600-buses could only run on a half-hour to 45-minute frequency.

Once the airport fee is added, a one-way trip to YVR will cost $6.25 to $7.50 per person. For single travellers, that's not too bad considering the cost of similar metro connections to airports in other cities. It easily costs $30+ for a taxi ride to the airport, or if you're staying in a hotel downtown, the Airporter bus costs $13.50. Families will still opt for taxis.

What about those who work at the airport though? it would SUCK to have to pay the increased add fare every trip. unless they allow those with monthly passes/fare savers to go without the add fare.

[K-Dub]

[QUOTE=Durrann1984;6553010]

I meant before the end lol. Like at Broadway or Nanaimo or something in that area. It would go a long way in making our transit system similar to the ones in HK/TW etc...
Not possible, been discussed earlier in this thread that they're completely different train systems.

I think they still need to keep the 98 b-line running though.

[E=mc²]

^
but they don't need to overlap. They just need to connect at some point in the middle. Sort of like Waterfront connects both Expo and Canada Line. Just that you need to switch trains.

[goo3]

^ you can do it the ghetto way right now and get off and take the bus to cambie

[hal0g0dv2]

what time do the trains stop running at? 1:30?

yeah x1

[hal0g0dv2]

http://tripplanning.translink.ca/hiwire?.a=iScheduleLookupSearch&LineName=999&LineAbbr=999

[pure.life]

so is there an added cost to use the Canada Line with the U-Pass?

[orange7]

so is there an added cost to use the Canada Line with the U-Pass?

lol.. i think our upass is going to cost more. Probably sonething like $100 next year or something. I'm not sure, but I won't be surprise if our upass fee increases.

[goo3]

i hopped on with my upass today.

when they start charging to go to yvr, then yes.

[slammer111]

Filled up my Canada Passport 100%, yay! :D Took about 6h.

Anyone else on RS pull this off?

[yson_3]

Filled up my Canada Passport 100%, yay! :D Took about 6h.

Anyone else on RS pull this off?


how does it feel having accomplished nothing... yetwasted 6 hours of your life

[misteranswer]

how does it feel having accomplished nothing... yetwasted 6 hours of your life

You mean like posting on RS?

[Tapioca]

What about those who work at the airport though? it would SUCK to have to pay the increased add fare every trip. unless they allow those with monthly passes/fare savers to go without the add fare.

I've heard that Airport workers won't have to pay the add-fare.

For others who wonder about extra fares, etc:
The Canada Line is a regular part of the Translink system. The fare system is the same on the Canada Line as it is on the buses, Skytrain, Seabus, etc. Your cash fares are the same, and your U-Passes will work. The only thing that will change is the YVR fare that is going to be enacted next year. Everyone travelling to the airport will have to pay $2.50 extra to get there.

[slammer111]

^ Does that apply only to YVR station, or also the other 2? If you can save $2.50 by taking a 10-minute walk..

[Durrann1984]

all about the cash money

TransLink revealed Friday that passengers taking the Canada Line between downtown Vancouver and the Vancouver International Airport will get a reduced fare during the first four months of operation.

Spokesman Drew Snider said those passengers will be able to use their regular TransLink passes to use the service - which will commence in late August.

"TransLink and ProTrans (the concessionaire operating the Canada Line) have agreed to defer implementation of the Canada Line-YVR Add Fare until 2010," Snider said.

"Customers will have the opportunity to ride this impressive stretch of elevated track, with views of the mountains to the north and the Gulf Islands to the west, for the price of a regular ticket."

TransLink had previously stated it would offer free rides on day one and after that it would cost $6.25 to take the Canada Line -A $2.50 premium on top of the two-zone, $3.75 trip between Richmond and Vancouver.

The premium will be now implemented on Jan. 1, 2010.

The $2-billion Canada Line is B.C's largest transportation project. The exact opening date has not been revealed.

[Amuse]

What if you have a 3 zone pass? Or a Upass (that covers all zones).
3 zone pass will still have to add $2.50 to go on any part of the Canada Line in 2010?

[misteranswer]

What if you have a 3 zone pass? Or a Upass (that covers all zones).
3 zone pass will still have to add $2.50 to go on any part of the Canada Line in 2010?

no

[shawn79]

dunno if its a repost but does canada line run 24 hours for ppl from the airport?

[misteranswer]

dunno if its a repost but does canada line run 24 hours for ppl from the airport?

no

[Tapioca]

^ Does that apply only to YVR station, or also the other 2? If you can save $2.50 by taking a 10-minute walk..

If you want to get to any of the stations on Sea Island, you will need to pay a $2.50 add-fare. The island will be treated as its own zone.

If you park at the long-term lot at Sea Island station, you will not need to pay anything to get to the terminal.

I've been reading some complaints on various forums about $6.25 being too expensive. Let's keep this in perspective:

- It costs 100 HKD to ride the Airport Express into Hong Station.
- It costs 4 pounds to ride the tube from Heathrow to Central London (on a train that is old, has no A/C, and has little room for luggage.)
- It costs 8.20 EUR to ride the express train from Charles de Gaulle into Gare du Nord in Paris.

[misteranswer]

- It costs 100 HKD to ride the Airport Express into Hong Station.


It's cheaper for round trip return tickets and there are cheaper transportation alternatives via bus and/or subway.

[drunkrussian]

so is the bridgeport park and ride $2/day

[misteranswer]

so is the bridgeport park and ride $2/day

http://www.translink.ca/en/Rider-Info/Park-and-Ride.aspx

[silk]

kinda urgent, i havent got a chance to read all posts in this thread... 1 quick question... my gf is thinking take the new train and going down to airport to meet up her freind who arrived today...is there going to be any delay on train or line up issue?? how long is the travel time from airport back to downtown

[Tapioca]

kinda urgent, i havent got a chance to read all posts in this thread... 1 quick question... my gf is thinking take the new train and going down to airport to meet up her freind who arrived today...is there going to be any delay on train or line up issue?? how long is the travel time from airport back to downtown

Well, there haven't been any service issues in the first 3 days of service. However, your best bet would be to check Translink's website and look under service alerts. Also, check out Twitter and search for "canadaline". People have been tweeting about their experiences and impressions of the line.

The ride itself from the Airport to downtown takes about 25 minutes. However, your girlfriend should factor another 5-10 minutes for waiting time. Remember, only every second train heads to the Airport so during midday, there will be a train every 8 minutes.

[Kaiten]

damn are you serious? just tell her to go early if she's that worried.

[K3604]

the canada line needs more seats =\