[MelonBoy]

Anyone recommend me what to buy for protein
Iv been wokring out for a while but never really took any proteins shakes ( just started to steal some off my brother recently )

Im currently about 120lb's(im light as helll) so u i want to put on some serious weight..

The protein my brother uses is not right for me apparently, he told me to look into some that give more calories? or something on that line.. (its probably because hes pretty fat and he's working out to slim/bulk/tone up)

Yes yes if ur goin to post and tell me to use the search thread please dont bother lol.. I have and reading all the random posts and shit is honestly pissing me off a little lol..

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I may get it form this place since its close by.. no shipping and stuff needed
https://www.svncanada.com/store_gallery.php?id=31

https://www.svncanada.com/cart_product.php?id=390&type=1
or
https://www.svncanada.com/cart_product.php?id=1697&type=1

I have no idea whats the difference.. other then a few g's per serving.. lol..

[hal0g0dv2]

cant go wrong with optimum 100% whey, i use that stuff for years now , great stuff

[kAzE-]

Used this before, mixes well, tastes fine. I didn't get any gas from it either.

If you want to put on some serious weight. EAT MORE! Try to eat clean so you don't get fat in the process.

[hal0g0dv2]

http://www.supplementscanada.com/ this site is in cad dolla and free shipping over 100 bucks

[MelonBoy]

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Dope thanks, probably just get it from the place on boundary.. 59.95 - $5discount
Local and no wait time.. :D I hate waiting for stuff when i order online haha..

Now im just thinking of either Vanilla Chai or D.Chocolate haha

[gabi]

Used this before, mixes well, tastes fine. I didn't get any gas from it either.

If you want to put on some serious weight. EAT MORE! Try to eat clean so you don't get fat in the process.

+1 on eating more if you want to gain weight
some good stuff to buy in bulk from costco off the top of my head: oatmeal, cottage cheese, chicken breasts, eggs, canned tuna/salmon, peanut butter

unless you get your lifting and your eating right, it will be inconsequential as to what protein shake you drink

[hal0g0dv2]

whole wheat pasta and brown rice is good ,tons of carbs and calories fiber and protein

[BlackV62K2]

whole wheat pasta and brown rice is good ,tons of carbs and calories fiber and protein

+1.....good source of complex carbs. Add some oats to your diet as well.

[MelonBoy]

+1 on eating more if you want to gain weight
some good stuff to buy in bulk from costco off the top of my head: oatmeal, cottage cheese, chicken breasts, eggs, canned tuna/salmon, peanut butter

unless you get your lifting and your eating right, it will be inconsequential as to what protein shake you drink

haha ya i going to renew my costco card, load up on some frozen chicken breasts, some burritos, random stuff...


Lets be honest eating healthy is expensive :P (have u guys tried getting ur DAILY recommened diet and getting it from healthy foods?) lol it slowly rapes at your wallet thats for sure =X

[hal0g0dv2]

haha ya i going to renew my costco card, load up on some frozen chicken breasts, some burritos, random stuff...


Lets be honest eating healthy is expensive :P (have u guys tried getting ur DAILY recommened diet and getting it from healthy foods?) lol it slowly rapes at your wallet thats for sure =X

o yeah 4 sure dude
just sneak some pizza or some not so bad foods in when u can with protein and fiber

[E=mc²]

are you sure you wanna buy whey?

After surfing around the iron addicts forum (great forum, IA is extremely knowledgeable), IA has stated that whey is pretty much useless except PWO and even then isn't exactly necessary.

You're better off with a mix of whey, egg, casein to slow down the absorption rate. that way you can use it effectively at ANY time of the day and it won't go to waste.


something like this I found was recommended

http://www.supplementmarket.com/dymatize-elite-12-hour-protein-44-lb-2-kg-p-10196.html

[MelonBoy]

uhh so when i went there and i asked about the ON whey.. the owner recommended me to buy this instead
https://www.svncanada.com/cart_product.php?id=817&type=1
Said this is better for my type and on whey isnt for me =p..

[gabi]

uhh so when i went there and i asked about the ON whey.. the owner recommended me to buy this instead
https://www.svncanada.com/cart_product.php?id=817&type=1
Said this is better for my type and on whey isnt for me =p..


yea, if you want to gain mass and are looking for a protein mix you should be taking a supplement with decent ratio of calories to protein

eating real food for mass can be expensive i suppose... i would only be taking some like the allmax quickmass if i'm too full to eat anything solid or for the convenience of it

otherwise i'd still down a whey protein shake during or immediately after my workout and eat lots of food for the rest of my nutrition

[yellowpower]

Get weight gainer, works whey better =)

[BlackV62K2]

Get weight gainer, works whey better =)

That's addition to what you cant get from your foods. You can't just rely on weight gainer alone.....well you could, and you'll be broke haha.

[RayBot]

A manager friend had an extra 8lb tub of weight gainer, which is still pretty full. I'm not using it; i'm moving the other direction. PM me if you're interested in working out something if that may be something you might want.

[hal0g0dv2]

haha cassein is what you take b4 bed or can not make a meal in, yuo should never take that stuff after you work out. it digest really slower the whole point of it, you want something quick then after that some carbs, but wtf do i know about cooking a shirt

[ws6ta]

cassein is thick and disgusting.

[!Yaminashi]

I took weight gainer for a while, it worked but thats all you do really. Gain weight. I had very little tone and basically just got bigger; especially around the mid section :lol
But I did gain some weight, about 40 lbs or so.

But recently I decided to cut that out and go with a clean protein. I'd rather be leaner w/ a little bit of fat than fat with almost no tone.

You could take gainer, but maybe cut down the servings to half the size or something, however if you do that, you're also cutting down your protein intake.
Thats the problem with gainer. If you want the maximum protein, you're also taking in huge amounts of calories which is probably mostly sugar.

Like someone said earlier, if you take gainer, you'll probably be broke, and its true. The GOOD gainers with less sugar cost ALOT of money.

[MelonBoy]

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haha ya i plan to stay on finish this quick mass one then switch off to a more regular use one (ex. ON whey)

but atm my goal is to just slap on fat! :D i could use some meat on my stomach anyways =p haha

[!Yaminashi]

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haha ya i plan to stay on finish this quick mass one then switch off to a more regular use one (ex. ON whey)

but atm my goal is to just slap on fat! :D i could use some meat on my stomach anyways =p haha

Yeah that was my goal at first too, but after a while I got tired of not having any definition. I'm sure you'll get there too :)

But in a way I guess it is better to have the fat, then turn it to muscle?
I dunno if it works that way:confused:

[E=mc²]

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it doesn't
fat can't magically turn into muscle
and i cringe everytime I hear one of my friends say "im planning on eating a lot, gain some fat, then convert it into muscle"...
makes me wanna punch them in the face

[hal0g0dv2]

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it doesn't
fat can't magically turn into muscle
and i cringe everytime I hear one of my friends say "im planning on eating a lot, gain some fat, then convert it into muscle"...
makes me wanna punch them in the face

help u put mass on so when u do "cut down" the mass is still on your frame in the important parts

[!Yaminashi]

help u put mass on so when u do "cut down" the mass is still on your frame in the important parts

Yeah, thats what I meant :p

[E=mc²]

I'm pretty sure no knowledgeable trainer/bb will advise you to specifically gain fat first...

that goes against the purpose of bodybuilding! :p

[hal0g0dv2]

beef protein, http://www.musclemedsrx.com/carnivor.html

[!Yaminashi]

I'm pretty sure no knowledgeable trainer/bb will advise you to specifically gain fat first...

that goes against the purpose of bodybuilding! :p

If he's taking gainer and working out he wont be gaining JUST fat..
There still is protein in there aside from all the sugar :D

[Gh0stRider]

went through my 6lb tub of weight gainer in a week...wtf

[hal0g0dv2]

went through my 6lb tub of weight gainer in a week...wtf

w0w how many u have a day

[BlackV62K2]

My guess if you go with the recommended amount on the tub, yeah you can go through one (5-6lbs tub) in a week. Most gainers tell u to take 2-3 servings a day.

[Gh0stRider]

3 servings per day

[hal0g0dv2]

3 servings per day

is there 4 scoops per serving ?

[MelonBoy]

daaam lol.. the Quick Mass recommends me to do 4 scoops per serving... 2 servings a day lol.. imma be finsih this bucket pretty quick lol..

[hal0g0dv2]

daaam lol.. the Quick Mass recommends me to do 4 scoops per serving... 2 servings a day lol.. imma be finsih this bucket pretty quick lol..

i guess that is the whole point. never tried the weight gainers b4 tho

[MelonBoy]

This stuff is giving me gas / more shits?... is that uhh normal lol?..

[XxFcukxX]

optimum whey protein double chocolate tastes good and is easy to mix, also doesn't hurt your stomach

[Gh0stRider]

This stuff is giving me gas / more shits?... is that uhh normal lol?..

yup...thats normal.


is there 4 scoops per serving ?
ya, 4 scoops/serving

im using a different one now. recommends 3 scoops.

[canuckfan72]

hey melonboy, at the beginning of the summer i was really light too. like 120lbs. the whey protein is really good or atleast it gave me some good results. im weighing in at 132lbs at the start of hockey season. some advice if you're taking it everyday try to mix it up with juice or nice tasting shakes/drinks. because after awhile it got really blan and started to taste kinda bad for me.

good luck, canuckfan72

[MelonBoy]

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Thanks

Ya its working pretty well for me atm.. been a month almost, i skipped the daily recommendation of 4 x 2 scoops lol.. serisouly its to thick and to mcuh to drink..
I did 2 x 2 scoops a day, ate 4-5meals, worked out 4-5 days a week..
I started at 117lb's and now im a solid 124-125lb .. :) (i think.. i weighted myself multiple times within a week and on 2 different scales haha)

gained a good 8 lbs in a month?.. thats more then i expected actually.. lol.. next goal is 135-140 by end of year! >=O btw this stuff taste like pretty good haha like drinking chocolate milk

[canuckfan72]

Nice! btw which type or brand i guess did you end up buying?

[nns]

If you're feeling bloated and gassy from the shakes, you could be lactose intolerant.

[DavidNguyen]

Nice! btw which type or brand i guess did you end up buying?

sounds like he bought QuickMass by all max

[DavidNguyen]

^
Thanks

Ya its working pretty well for me atm.. been a month almost, i skipped the daily recommendation of 4 x 2 scoops lol.. serisouly its to thick and to mcuh to drink..
I did 2 x 2 scoops a day, ate 4-5meals, worked out 4-5 days a week..
I started at 117lb's and now im a solid 124-125lb .. :) (i think.. i weighted myself multiple times within a week and on 2 different scales haha)

gained a good 8 lbs in a month?.. thats more then i expected actually.. lol.. next goal is 135-140 by end of year! >=O btw this stuff taste like pretty good haha like drinking chocolate milk

instead of 2 sccops. try 3 scoops and 1.8 cups of water.

i think im done with quick mass. since i dont do abs. im startin to get a gut.
im trying ON protein. i get more protein a day and easier/less to drink

[BlackV62K2]

instead of 2 sccops. try 3 scoops and 1.8 cups of water.

i think im done with quick mass. since i dont do abs. im startin to get a gut.
im trying ON protein. i get more protein a day and easier/less to drink

You mean since you dont do cardio, you're starting to get a gut. Doing ab workout alone will not get rid of your gut.

[MelonBoy]

sounds like he bought QuickMass by all max

Ya thats the one :thumbsup:

instead of 2 sccops. try 3 scoops and 1.8 cups of water.

i think im done with quick mass. since i dont do abs. im startin to get a gut.
im trying ON protein. i get more protein a day and easier/less to drink

I use the magic bullet, one cup of milk for 2 scoops (kinda like thick chocolate milk).. usually have a meal with this at the side.. (ex. breakfast = eggs, bread, 1shake, glass of milk, cereal or fruit if im still hungry)

You mean since you dont do cardio, you're starting to get a gut. Doing ab workout alone will not get rid of your gut.

hmm.. i dont have a gut atm, hopefully i can keep it that way.. atm im doing about 25x4 (15-30sec rest in between) bicycle crunches a day...
Think thats enoguh to keep a gut off? or should i be doing other exercises?
(btw i dont do cardio during my work outs)

[DavidNguyen]

wow, u mix quick mass with milk? thats really tuff to drink man. why not water? taste just as good and easier to drink.

like BlackV62K2 said. you MUST do CARDIO to get rid of GUT.
or something that will burn fat. crunches alone wont do much.

[MelonBoy]

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I want the extra nutrition haha.. i go through like a jug of milk every week or so now lol.. good for the boooness and its not that bad =p .. 1scoop is drinking chocolate milk, 2 scoops is like a melted chocolate milk shake haha... (i dont even bother with anymore scoops cause 2 scoops is already half my cup so anymore .. lol)

dam.. cardio eh.. ill probably hold that off till i hit at least 135 or so..

[DavidNguyen]

let me give u some advice.
i have been working out for 5 months ish. taking quickmass. havent done any cardio and now i after i eat. my gut is huge. in the morning it looks great though.

you should start cardio now, even if its 10 mins.

[BlackV62K2]

Even if you're bulking....you should do at least one day of light intensity cardio per week.

[gabi]

Even if you're bulking....you should do at least one day of light intensity cardio per week.


+1
use cardio to keep your body fat % in check
cardio and bulking are not at odds with eachother

[DC5-S]

i workout 3 times a week and do cardio on 2 days.. and i agree its good to do it.. if you dont your not in shape.. sure your strong and look good.. but you wont even be able to run a couple hundred meters without gasping for air.. thats if you dont do any activity outside the gym

[penner2k]

Good cardiovascular health also is good for building muscle.

[MelonBoy]

hmm.. cardio.. dam im really broke between doing it or now atm.. the fact is im still light at hell (126lb) i dont know if i want to put in cardio into my work out just yet... my original plan was to work out with 0 cardio work till i hit my ideal weight (135-140) Hopefully by the end of the year or so... i actually plan to give the p90x a try (my cousin has it lol) i was hoping the program would cut off w/e gut and shape my over all body better...

Well if i were to put cardio into my routine it would probaly be this (ex. of what parts im working out dont worry im doing my lats, shoulders and what not)
Monday - Bicep/Tricep
Tuesday- Cardio
Wednesday - Pecs/Back
Thursday - Cardio
Friday - Legs

Atm im currently takeing 2scoops Quick mass with my breakfats and 2 scoops after i work out..
I was recommended by my brother to take Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein Protein
1 scoops a day before i go to sleep as a booster..

Id like some opinion on this should i put in cardio at this point... and should i take the casein protein..
Also when u say light cardio.. could u expand on that?.. would a 30minute run be light? .. or uhh.. ?

Links to what protein im using and what i may start using
https://www.svncanada.com/cart_product.php?id=817&type=1
https://www.svncanada.com/cart_product.php?id=1065&type=1

[SkinnyPupp]

Cardio is for hamsters :lol

[nns]

I'm thinking of adding whey protein to my normal PWO shake, but I don't know which to choose. What do you guys recommend?

[hal0g0dv2]

I'm thinking of adding whey protein to my normal PWO shake, but I don't know which to choose. What do you guys recommend?


this is a very good product for a pwo, shake
been using this for a while

http://www.tmuscle.com/productInfo.do?id=459244&utm_source=Internal&utm_medium=Banner&utm_content=TopBanner&utm_campaign=Surge_Recovery

[nns]

I'm not looking to replace my current PWO shake. I'm just looking for an additive that I can add to my existing shake to increase my protein intake.

[hal0g0dv2]

I'm not looking to replace my current PWO shake. I'm just looking for an additive that I can add to my existing shake to increase my protein intake.

how much protein do u want
20-25g is perfect for pwo

[nns]

Where'd you get that number from?

[hal0g0dv2]

Where'd you get that number from?

well most pwo shakes have not that much protein compared to carbs.
and a normal shake has aprox 20-30g of protein i dont see why you would need to go over that,
plus 45 min later you are going to eat a low carb high in protein meal anyways

[lil-trip-bo]

any updates on melonboy's progress?
been doing some research and peanut butter is one of the best bang for buck i think.
besides the high amount of fat, about 1500calories and 65g of protein in a cup.
is it a huge deal though if you're trying to gain a whole lot of weight anyways?
anyone have before and after pictures to show off?
also has anyone had a considerable gain taking creatine while on weightgainers?
i just went through a 15lb bag of PVL mutant mass. i think it's better value than the quick mass too for the price. but it sure is pricey.
you're supposed to go through the bag in about 2 weeks. $70-80 a bag

how long do you guys usually work out for? i've been hearing after an hour, its just using up too many calories. dont know if it's true.

[hal0g0dv2]

any updates on melonboy's progress?
been doing some research and peanut butter is one of the best bang for buck i think.
besides the high amount of fat, about 1500calories and 65g of protein in a cup.
is it a huge deal though if you're trying to gain a whole lot of weight anyways?
anyone have before and after pictures to show off?
also has anyone had a considerable gain taking creatine while on weightgainers?
i just went through a 15lb bag of PVL mutant mass. i think it's better value than the quick mass too for the price. but it sure is pricey.
you're supposed to go through the bag in about 2 weeks. $70-80 a bag

how long do you guys usually work out for? i've been hearing after an hour, its just using up too many calories. dont know if it's true.


45-hour, but sometimes chest and back take longer i dono depends

[mc25]

hmm.. cardio.. dam im really broke between doing it or now atm.. the fact is im still light at hell (126lb) i dont know if i want to put in cardio into my work out just yet... my original plan was to work out with 0 cardio work till i hit my ideal weight (135-140) Hopefully by the end of the year or so... i actually plan to give the p90x a try (my cousin has it lol) i was hoping the program would cut off w/e gut and shape my over all body better...

Well if i were to put cardio into my routine it would probaly be this (ex. of what parts im working out dont worry im doing my lats, shoulders and what not)
Monday - Bicep/Tricep
Tuesday- Cardio
Wednesday - Pecs/Back
Thursday - Cardio
Friday - Legs



OK, your workout is totally wrong. Yes, good concept on breaking up the major muscle groups, however you cant work out one muscle group / week and expect results.

First thing is first: You should definitely work in cardio, at least once a week, for at least 30 minutes into your routine. I try to work in 3 days, usually after a workout..yes Im dead, but meh. Or gym in morning, do a run at night.

As for diet, if you want to bulk up, a trainer showed me that you need 1g of protein / lbs of body weight, and 2g of carbs / lbs of body weight. Follow this and with a dedicated weight routine you should see results after a while. Once you are a desired weight, trim it back though.

Also, before and after a workout do at least 5-10mins of warm up, such as bike.

[mc25]

If you're feeling bloated and gassy from the shakes, you could be lactose intolerant.

I have experienced some of this, but I have changed my diet and am consuming wayyy more. If I wanted to determine if this is a problem, lactose that is, whats an alternative? Shakes with water, or soy milk? What type of protein?

[Todd Martinez]

whey iso is wjat i find works best

[nns]

I have experienced some of this, but I have changed my diet and am consuming wayyy more. If I wanted to determine if this is a problem, lactose that is, whats an alternative? Shakes with water, or soy milk? What type of protein?

I had a suspicion that I was lactore intolerant when I kept getting stomach aches and gas after eating things with high milk content. What I did was, I went and bought lactaid supplement pills (no prescription necessary), and used them before I consumed any milk. Since there was no more stomach aches or gas because I took the pills ahead of time, I knew I was lactose intolerant.

Now, I just take those pills before I have a shake with milk in it, and 99% of the time I have no issues.