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| Pictures show daylight 'killing' of suspect by Indian police
By the way, the reason why some of the cops and suspect look asian is because this is in the state of Manipur. Quote:
Chongkham Sanjit, 27, is arrested by police commandos in a post office in the capital of Manipur, northeast India. The red arrow shows his short journey from arrest to the place of his daylight killing
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Mr Sanjit is apparently going willingly with the commandos who have arrested him. He does not appear armed, as was claimed by the officers after his death
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But an officer reaches for his pistol as Mr Sanjit is escorted. They are standing barely 500 metres from the state assembly
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Then Mr Sanjit is dragged by the commandos into the pharmacy, where he is apparently killed
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Indian police have been photographed apparently killing a hospital attendant in a busy market in northeastern India in the first such exposé of a practice that rights groups say is rife within the understaffed and poorly trained force.
The police said originally that they shot dead Chongkham Sanjit, 27, when he fired on them as they chased him through the market in the northeastern state of Manipur, on the border with Burma, on July 23.
The Manipur police commandos said that they found a 9mm Mauser pistol on the dead man, whom they accused of being a member of a banned separatist group — one of dozens operating in the north east of India.
Photographs published by the investigative magazine, Tehelka, however show police commandos approaching an unarmed Mr Sanjit, frisking him and taking him into a pharmacy while one officer reaches for his pistol.
The officers are then shown dragging out his corpse and loading it on to the back of a truck. The body of a pregnant woman, who was shot dead in the crossfire of an earlier police shootout, can be seen in the vehicle.
The apparent summary execution took place in Imphal, the state capital, at about 10.30am only 500 metres from the building where the legislative assembly was meeting.
Tehelka said that the images were taken by a local photographer who did not publish them in Manipur for fear of recrimination from the police.
Human rights campaigners said that it was the first time they could remember there being such incriminating visual evidence of what is known in India as a fake encounter killing. “Is this the first time there has been such compelling evidence? I’d say yes,” Meenakshi Ganguly, a senior South Asia researcher for Human Rights Watch, told The Times.
Suhas Chakma, the director of the Asian Centre for Human Rights in Delhi, said: “This is the first case where the actual [incident] has been caught on camera.”
Police in India often kill alleged suspects in staged shootouts but it is almost impossible to prove because they always claim that the victims were armed.
The practice began in the 1980s as a way to eliminate dangerous suspects who could not be convicted in court because of corruption and witness intimidation.
It became prevalent during a campaign against organised crime in Mumbai in the 1990s, when some police “encounter specialists” became national celebrities. A 49-year-old police inspector in Mumbai is considered to be the top encounter specialist, with 112 “kills” to his name.
Rights groups claim that the practice has become routine and is often used to avoid gathering evidence, or to carry out contract killings.
“Considering the long history and scale of this practice, it is likely that state officials and senior police are not only aware of these killings, but allow, unofficially sanction or even order these killings,” Human Rights Watch wrote in a report on police abuse that was published on Tuesday.
The government in Manipur originally stood by the police, who claimed that Mr Sanjit fired at least four shots, killing the pregnant woman.
After several days of violent protests and the publication of the photographs, the local government has suspended the six police officers involved and ordered a judicial inquiry.
Okram Ibobi Singh, the chief minister of Manipur, said that he had been misled by his police chief.
“I admit I said Sanjit was an active member of the separatist People’s Liberation Army (PLA), because that is what the police chief told me,” he told a news conference. “Now I know he had surrendered and apparently was not involved in the activities of his former organisation.”
Mr Sanjit is reported to have left the PLA on health grounds in 2006 and was working as an attendant in a private hospital.
“Further action will depend on the outcome of the judicial inquiry,” Mr Singh said.
Activists warned that a judicial inquiry could take years and that members of the security forces accused in several previous cases had yet to be held to account.
Securing convictions is hard in Manipur because it is covered by the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, which allows security forces to arrest, torture and kill with impunity.
Mr Chakma said that he had documented 19 encounter killings in Manipur last year and more than 50 in the past five years — the highest number for any state in India.
Among them was Thangjam Manorama Devi, a 32-year-old woman from Manipur who was arrested by paramilitary forces and shot dead in their custody in 2004. A judicial inquiry has yet to make public its findings on the case. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...ffset=0&page=1 |
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08-07-2009, 05:37 PM
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so.. he didn't kill anyone? The police did the killing?
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08-07-2009, 05:41 PM
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they were just showing on cnn the other day how Indian police is fuck'd up torturing people on the streets too
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08-07-2009, 06:15 PM
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I'm going to save this thread as a reference for all those 'tards claiming our local law enforcement is out of control, the worst kind in the world, and that the tazers are the most barbarous tools of death. |
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08-07-2009, 07:15 PM
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^^^ india is basically a 3rd world country though, you can't compare that to us
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08-07-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed ^^^ india is basically a 3rd world country though, you can't compare that to us | why not - vancouver if filled with fresh off hte boat indians - if this is where they're coming from, do you think they'll automatically respect the way we live? (i'm an immigrant here too - but coming from somewhere with laws, culture, and so many other factors that mirror canada's, its not hard for me to blend in)
nothing will happen to those cops - and that's a fact
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08-07-2009, 08:32 PM
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i don't understand what you're saying 4444??
I'm referring to Noir saying we (canadians) can't bitch about our(canadas) police because its a lot worse elsewhere, like India, and im saying you can't compare Canadian police to Indias because India is basically a 3rd world shithole
i think your post is saying canada=india because we have indians here? oO
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08-07-2009, 08:42 PM
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corrupt yo
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08-07-2009, 09:51 PM
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08-07-2009, 11:28 PM
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Indian police is one you would not want to get in trouble with. Unless you have money, then you can get away with anything.
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08-07-2009, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 4444 why not - vancouver if filled with fresh off hte boat indians - if this is where they're coming from, do you think they'll automatically respect the way we live? (i'm an immigrant here too - but coming from somewhere with laws, culture, and so many other factors that mirror canada's, its not hard for me to blend in)
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08-08-2009, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri | not really - look at the majority of crime, where does it come from - immigrants
a few bad ones spoil it for the rest of the hard working ones that come into this country, but this is the problem, we, as with most western societies, want everything but don't want to work hard for it, thus we must keep our economy growing through population growth
given that western countries don't even replace themselves through reproduction, we take immigration as the answer, taking people from non-western countries, often 2nd and 3rd world countries, plopping them into this beautiful place
the majority of immigrants will continue to live within the same moral boundaries as they did in their home nation (for the most part), bringing down our quality of living through things such as crime, higher density housing (look at richmond + surrey with their 'vancouver special' houses with 2 rental units downstairs - don't tell me anyone who works hard would actually want to live next door to that)
this doesn't happen just here, look at britain, my beautiful country is now a shit hole, vancouver, as we've seen with this years rash of gang killings is following suit - i like what the BNP has to say on the matter - most people say they're racist, but we can't seem to say anything about immigration or other racists without it automatically being 'racist'
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08-08-2009, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 4444 not really - look at the majority of crime, where does it come from - immigrants
a few bad ones spoil it for the rest of the hard working ones that come into this country, but this is the problem, we, as with most western societies, want everything but don't want to work hard for it, thus we must keep our economy growing through population growth
given that western countries don't even replace themselves through reproduction, we take immigration as the answer, taking people from non-western countries, often 2nd and 3rd world countries, plopping them into this beautiful place
the majority of immigrants will continue to live within the same moral boundaries as they did in their home nation (for the most part), bringing down our quality of living through things such as crime, higher density housing (look at richmond + surrey with their 'vancouver special' houses with 2 rental units downstairs - don't tell me anyone who works hard would actually want to live next door to that)
this doesn't happen just here, look at britain, my beautiful country is now a shit hole, vancouver, as we've seen with this years rash of gang killings is following suit - i like what the BNP has to say on the matter - most people say they're racist, but we can't seem to say anything about immigration or other racists without it automatically being 'racist' | are you for real? your pretty much saying this place would be better without immigrants? wtf does that have anything to do with the op's post ? some cops killed a innocent dude on the other side of the world and your bitching about 2 bedroom basment suites and gang shootings in vancouver ?
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08-08-2009, 12:53 AM
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Saw this on the news today...it was brutal |
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08-08-2009, 01:58 AM
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the same shiet happens in Africa, China, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Philipines, the poorer south american countries.
Police officers make a shiet load of cash in these countries from all the bribes and "protection" money they get.
Thank god for the Charter of rights and freedom and Human Rights legislation.
Human Rights = WIN
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08-08-2009, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 4444 not really - look at the majority of crime, where does it come from - immigrants
a few bad ones spoil it for the rest of the hard working ones that come into this country, but this is the problem, we, as with most western societies, want everything but don't want to work hard for it, thus we must keep our economy growing through population growth
given that western countries don't even replace themselves through reproduction, we take immigration as the answer, taking people from non-western countries, often 2nd and 3rd world countries, plopping them into this beautiful place
the majority of immigrants will continue to live within the same moral boundaries as they did in their home nation (for the most part), bringing down our quality of living through things such as crime, higher density housing (look at richmond + surrey with their 'vancouver special' houses with 2 rental units downstairs - don't tell me anyone who works hard would actually want to live next door to that)
this doesn't happen just here, look at britain, my beautiful country is now a shit hole, vancouver, as we've seen with this years rash of gang killings is following suit - i like what the BNP has to say on the matter - most people say they're racist, but we can't seem to say anything about immigration or other racists without it automatically being 'racist' | I really want to know how you entered our country with your piss poor English and you're an immigrant yourself so if you don't like OUR country, leave.
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08-08-2009, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 4444 not really - look at the majority of crime, where does it come from - immigrants
a few bad ones spoil it for the rest of the hard working ones that come into this country, but this is the problem, we, as with most western societies, want everything but don't want to work hard for it, thus we must keep our economy growing through population growth
given that western countries don't even replace themselves through reproduction, we take immigration as the answer, taking people from non-western countries, often 2nd and 3rd world countries, plopping them into this beautiful place
the majority of immigrants will continue to live within the same moral boundaries as they did in their home nation (for the most part), bringing down our quality of living through things such as crime, higher density housing (look at richmond + surrey with their 'vancouver special' houses with 2 rental units downstairs - don't tell me anyone who works hard would actually want to live next door to that)
this doesn't happen just here, look at britain, my beautiful country is now a shit hole, vancouver, as we've seen with this years rash of gang killings is following suit - i like what the BNP has to say on the matter - most people say they're racist, but we can't seem to say anything about immigration or other racists without it automatically being 'racist' |
wow. ur a fuckin idiot buddy. the majority of crimes in this city are done by people that are alteast 2nd generation Canadian. go to the downtown east side. the majority of the people living down there are either native or white. check out the majority of crimes. petty theft by junkies trying to find a way to score some more dope. oh and as far as your rash of gang killings. last time i checked BACON wasnt an indian last name.
don't even get me started about britan. that place is the biggest shit hole ever. dont get me wrong. i love the place. got alot of family there. but the place is a fucking disgusting. i find it ironic that a brit is complaining about immigrants fucking up countries when thats all britan did to other countires. go there rape them of any resource they had. fuck the country up then leave. but in this case. immigrants from India, China etc etc are productive members of society and without immigrants britan and north america would not be where they are today. lol north america wouldnt even exist.
fuck. come to think of it. seems like the brits were the first people to migrate to other countries.
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Originally Posted by 4444 not really - look at the majority of crime, where does it come from - immigrants
a few bad ones spoil it for the rest of the hard working ones that come into this country, but this is the problem, we, as with most western societies, want everything but don't want to work hard for it, thus we must keep our economy growing through population growth
given that western countries don't even replace themselves through reproduction, we take immigration as the answer, taking people from non-western countries, often 2nd and 3rd world countries, plopping them into this beautiful place
the majority of immigrants will continue to live within the same moral boundaries as they did in their home nation (for the most part), bringing down our quality of living through things such as crime, higher density housing (look at richmond + surrey with their 'vancouver special' houses with 2 rental units downstairs - don't tell me anyone who works hard would actually want to live next door to that)
this doesn't happen just here, look at britain, my beautiful country is now a shit hole, vancouver, as we've seen with this years rash of gang killings is following suit - i like what the BNP has to say on the matter - most people say they're racist, but we can't seem to say anything about immigration or other racists without it automatically being 'racist' |
leave the country,,, problem solved!!!
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Originally Posted by 4444 not really - look at the majority of crime, where does it come from - immigrants
a few bad ones spoil it for the rest of the hard working ones that come into this country, but this is the problem, we, as with most western societies, want everything but don't want to work hard for it, thus we must keep our economy growing through population growth
given that western countries don't even replace themselves through reproduction, we take immigration as the answer, taking people from non-western countries, often 2nd and 3rd world countries, plopping them into this beautiful place
the majority of immigrants will continue to live within the same moral boundaries as they did in their home nation (for the most part), bringing down our quality of living through things such as crime, higher density housing (look at richmond + surrey with their 'vancouver special' houses with 2 rental units downstairs - don't tell me anyone who works hard would actually want to live next door to that)
this doesn't happen just here, look at britain, my beautiful country is now a shit hole, vancouver, as we've seen with this years rash of gang killings is following suit - i like what the BNP has to say on the matter - most people say they're racist, but we can't seem to say anything about immigration or other racists without it automatically being 'racist' | Yeahhh FUCK YOU asshole GET the FUCK OUTTT
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Originally Posted by 4444 not really - look at the majority of crime, where does it come from - immigrants
a few bad ones spoil it for the rest of the hard working ones that come into this country, but this is the problem, we, as with most western societies, want everything but don't want to work hard for it, thus we must keep our economy growing through population growth
given that western countries don't even replace themselves through reproduction, we take immigration as the answer, taking people from non-western countries, often 2nd and 3rd world countries, plopping them into this beautiful place
the majority of immigrants will continue to live within the same moral boundaries as they did in their home nation (for the most part), bringing down our quality of living through things such as crime, higher density housing (look at richmond + surrey with their 'vancouver special' houses with 2 rental units downstairs - don't tell me anyone who works hard would actually want to live next door to that)
this doesn't happen just here, look at britain, my beautiful country is now a shit hole, vancouver, as we've seen with this years rash of gang killings is following suit - i like what the BNP has to say on the matter - most people say they're racist, but we can't seem to say anything about immigration or other racists without it automatically being 'racist' | Actually, family that I know of who have immigrated here are some of the hardest working people I know. They come here with hardly anything in their pocket and do hard back breaking labour jobs for sometimes over 8 hours a day. The lumber, construction, hell almost any industry would not be where it is without the work of immigrants trying to make a living.
As for the crime, it's just like stated as above. It's not the newly arrive immigrants but those who are citizens and have been here much longer. Fact: Although aboriginal persons make up 3.6% of Canada's population, they account for more than 20% of Canada's prison population. Haven't they been here a while or are they immigrants? And the Indo-Canadians and Asian Canadians you hear about on the biased media getting shot or arrested, probably over 80% went through Canadian schooling and grew up in a White man's enviroment. I'm not saying there is no such thing as immigrant criminals, but that your facts seem to be twisted and should be the other way around.
The majority of immigrants will not continue to live the way they did back home. My parents came here from India in the 80's and worked their way to the place they are now. They worked during two jobs during the day and then night school after to learn English. From working in berry fields and washing dishes to now owning their own home and other properties and my dad now works for himself, my parents worked to give me and my sister a very well off life. From this, they taught me that working hard well get me places. And with a population of people who are like that, I don't think that brings down our quality of life very much.
From your post, you sir, sound like a stuck up Brit. (see what I did there, similar to how you based your opinion on a select group of people)
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