[you!]

all rs's pls sign

http://www.bcndp.ca/stopHSTforward

[lilaznviper]

if i remember hearing HST did actually lower prices on items afterwards in other provinces

[Amuse]

^ Where's your source and prices won't get lower here in BC lol

[turbomelon]

Well one of my biggest issues with HST is houses which most Vancouverite's cant afford already will be subjected to the HST so instead of just the 6% gst we get the PST too now.

With the HST a house that's 1.5 million now will cost an additional $105, 000.

[Jackygor]

^^^

yes, that is the gaysauce part, HST is shit covered with icy...very gay

[Yc]

stupid liberal realized they gonna have a defict, which isn't factored into their budget calculation from the previous year. So they came up with HST to cover their ass,
what happen to voting? isn't this a democrated country where decisions made by any gov't needs to be heard and voted?

[EX-R]

chris brown - vancouver - I don't want not shit covered icy

haha. who posted this?!

[WakeMeUp]

Well one of my biggest issues with HST is houses which most Vancouverite's cant afford already will be subjected to the HST so instead of just the 6% gst we get the PST too now.

With the HST a house that's 1.5 million now will cost an additional $105, 000.

This only applies to "new" homes, as in just built homes. The rest aren't affected AFAIK.

[Benz_05TSX]

signed this long ago!!

[ImportPsycho]

Well one of my biggest issues with HST is houses which most Vancouverite's cant afford already will be subjected to the HST so instead of just the 6% gst we get the PST too now.

With the HST a house that's 1.5 million now will cost an additional $105, 000.

if you put a down payment on a building in contruction and it is completed after HST, do you pay HST or no?

[you!]

bump!

[Tapioca]

stupid liberal realized they gonna have a defict, which isn't factored into their budget calculation from the previous year. So they came up with HST to cover their ass,
what happen to voting? isn't this a democrated country where decisions made by any gov't needs to be heard and voted?

Well, in the BC Liberals' defence, no government understood the sheer impact of the economic meltdown until it happened. The politicians are stuck between a rock and a hard place:

- Cut social services such as health care and other subsidies and people complain
- Raise taxes and people complain

People need to realize that there is no free lunch - you can't have lower taxes without cuts to services, or an increase in consumption taxes, user fees, etc. The restaurant industry has cried foul, but honestly, if you're spending 100/week on meals and beverages (like many yuppies), surely you can afford another 7 bucks.

FYI: The smartest decisions are seldom the most 'democratic'.

[Gt-R R34]

Some people don't mind the HST.

It really is how it was jammed down our throats. "we say it's going to happen, this is the date, TO BAD for any discussion."

[johny]

This only applies to "new" homes, as in just built homes. The rest aren't affected AFAIK.


I think you pay tax on any home over 400k weathe it's new or not. but that might be a different tax or unefected by this. not sure.

used cars will also cost 7% more. as now you don't pay PST from private sale used cars.

[misteranswer]

^ Where's your source and prices won't get lower here in BC lol

The Effect of the Harmonized Sales Tax on Consumer Prices in Atlantic Canada
* David Murrell, Weiqiu Yu
* Canadian Public Policy / Analyse de Politiques, Vol. 26, No. 4 (Dec., 2000), pp. 451-460

[misteranswer]

stupid liberal realized they gonna have a defict, which isn't factored into their budget calculation from the previous year. So they came up with HST to cover their ass,
what happen to voting? isn't this a democrated country where decisions made by any gov't needs to be heard and voted?

Revenues fell in other provinces that implemented the HST

An Analysis of the Impact of the Harmonized Sales Tax on Provincial Revenues in Atlantic Canada
Patrick Blagrave
Canadian Public Policy / Analyse de Politiques, Vol. 31, No. 3 (Sep., 2005), pp. 319-331

[Nightwalker]

Bring on the HST, fine with me

[Gnomes]

Everybody in favor of the HST.... would you mind paying the HST on MY behalf?

[quasi]

stupid liberal realized they gonna have a defict, which isn't factored into their budget calculation from the previous year. So they came up with HST to cover their ass,
what happen to voting? isn't this a democrated country where decisions made by any gov't needs to be heard and voted?

I'm not in favour of HST but thats not how it happened at all. The maritimes already has it and Ontario is bringing it in. The Federal Government went to Campell and said we'll give you 1.6 billion if you impliment this tax. Whether or not they actually offererd them this before or after the election who really knows but either way it's a bit sketchy.

Again I'm not a fan of the tax but you're giving the Liberals way to much credit making the assumption they pulled this out of their ass to make up for a shortfall.

[Expresso]

if you put a down payment on a building in contruction and it is completed after HST, do you pay HST or no?

From what I've heard, yes you pay. So find a place that finishes before July 2010 lol.

I was also reading that you will get tax breaks or a refund for house purchases up to $400K? Anything over you pay the HST for it? Is this true?

[wahyinghung]

Joined the Anti HST face book group 2 weeks ago.............

[Meowjin]

bring in the HST but compesate ambulance workers and stop cutting healthcare and ill be happy.

[kungpow]

Sorry but I think Campbell has already finalized the deal and HST is on for next year.

[ziggyx]

Some people don't mind the HST.

It really is how it was jammed down our throats. "we say it's going to happen, this is the date, TO BAD for any discussion."

+1

[RTS]

Well, in the BC Liberals' defence, no government understood the sheer impact of the economic meltdown until it happened. The politicians are stuck between a rock and a hard place:

- Cut social services such as health care and other subsidies and people complain
- Raise taxes and people complain

People need to realize that there is no free lunch - you can't have lower taxes without cuts to services, or an increase in consumption taxes, user fees, etc. The restaurant industry has cried foul, but honestly, if you're spending 100/week on meals and beverages (like many yuppies), surely you can afford another 7 bucks.

FYI: The smartest decisions are seldom the most 'democratic'.

This.

[orange7]

Everybody in favor of the HST.... would you mind paying the HST on MY behalf?

that's just like saying.. everybody in favor of gas guzzlers... would they mind paying gas for you

[Tapioca]

Some people don't mind the HST.

It really is how it was jammed down our throats. "we say it's going to happen, this is the date, TO BAD for any discussion."

Gordo is an arrogant guy, but basically, his government is daring you to vote them out based on this single issue. As a voter, what are your choices? The NDP under Carole James? Un-bloody likely.

This is how politics is played. When you have an opposition party that is so reviled by the business and upper-middle class, the government can do what it damn-well pleases.

[goo3]

^ pretty much

How sad of a party are you when you lose 3 times in a row and basically still stay as shitty as before? Imagine a bunch of triple losers running the govt.

[Orion]

understand GST, understand PST... understand how they work interms of businesses... now understand how they affact major exporting companies in Canada..

HST doesn't look glamorous on our end but its good for the economy... I'm neither for or against it...

[orange7]

Joined the Anti HST face book group 2 weeks ago.............


and what exactly can the Anti HST facebook group do?

[metal]

They can complain on the group page and think that someone actually cares.

[68style]

Here's where I get angry: having to pay 12% tax on USED cars from private sales.

It's already fucking bad enough the government collects tax on a USED product as it is at 7% let alone 12%... blood ridiculous... go buy some $10,000 used car and shell out $1,200 in tax... it's used!! How exactly does the government see fit that they collect tax on something 5-6 times in its life as it changes owners?!?! They don't even do it on 'used' houses. Ridiculous.

Can't wait to see the influx of gift letters after this nonsense comes in.

[misteranswer]

Here's where I get angry: having to pay 12% tax on USED cars from private sales.

It's already fucking bad enough the government collects tax on a USED product as it is at 7% let alone 12%... blood ridiculous... go buy some $10,000 used car and shell out $1,200 in tax... it's used!! How exactly does the government see fit that they collect tax on something 5-6 times in its life as it changes owners?!?! They don't even do it on 'used' houses. Ridiculous.

Can't wait to see the influx of gift letters after this nonsense comes in.

And where are you getting this from? The people talking about death panels?

[SlySi]

HST is pretty much set in stone... all these stop hst campaigns is a waste of bandwith.
Get over it...

[silk]

partition is uselss.. dont waste your time on this... use your time to make more money

[taylor192]

stupid liberal realized they gonna have a defict, which isn't factored into their budget calculation from the previous year. So they came up with HST to cover their ass,

Please don't talk if you don't know the details.

The HST is a federal initiative to reduce the overhead of managing 2 taxes. The federal government is offering incentives to the provinces to switch to the HST, and BC is one of the last to make the switch.

The HST should reduce the cost of doing business as the tax is passed directly onto the customer. Whether business will pass these savings along remains to be seen. So a new house, while paying more HST on it, should cost less to build cause the developers will pay less tax.

[you!]

partition is uselss.. dont waste your time on this... use your time to make more money

lol what partition:lol

[TheKingdom2000]

i don't think we can stop it..
it jsut pisses me off that they won't have HST for the olympics..

i mean if you're going to fuck us over, why not do it at a time where we can make the most money? why July? and not in Feb? we'll make so much more off everyone here for the olympics...

[cho]

partition is uselss.. dont waste your time on this... use your time to make more money

lulz

[50akaFerrariF50]

look who regretted voting liberal now...

[TheKingdom2000]

look who regretted voting liberal now...

and who else would you suggest we vote for?
there are no conservatives in BC.. well not to have a majority anyways...

carole james is a joke.. and so is the NDP.

[K3604]

HST <---- @:

[Gnomes]

Whoever voted for liberals does not have the right to complain about the HST.

Just kidding. I always have voted NDP since Glen Clark was around. When Carol Taylor announced she would step down from leadership if she loses the last election, I voted liberals. Low and behold, she still stuck around. Carol is such a liar.

Correction - Carol James

[quasi]

look who regretted voting liberal now...

I don't regret voting liberal, if there was an election tomorrow I'd vote for them again. There is still no viable alternative here in BC but it would be nice if one came along though.

[Great68]

Whoever voted for liberals does not have the right to complain about the HST.

Just kidding. I always have voted NDP since Glen Clark was around. When Carol Taylor announced she would step down from leadership if she loses the last election, I voted liberals. Low and behold, she still stuck around. Carol is such a liar.

Do you mean Carol James?

[MG1]

Carole Taylor > Carole James.

Doesn't matter what you compare......

looks
brains
experience
clothes
style
social skills
shoe collection
in bed performance

Hell, she could probably spit farther than James.


EDIT: Should have said piss farther, LOL.

[misteranswer]

Carole Taylor > Carole James.

Doesn't matter what you compare......

looks
brains
experience
clothes
style
social skills
shoe collection
in bed performance

Hell, she could probably spit farther than James.
I think Carole James can probably bench press more than Carole Taylor.

[Mr.HappySilp]

1.complain aobut HST
2.?
3.Profit!

[MG1]

I think Carole James can probably bench press more than Carole Taylor.

You're right. James does look like she could break some skinny Asian guys in half.....

[TheKingdom2000]

I don't regret voting liberal, if there was an election tomorrow I'd vote for them again. There is still no viable alternative here in BC but it would be nice if one came along though.

+1

[Mephology]

Implementing HST during one of the hardest economic downfalls is harsh. There's 1000's of people that have been recently laid off.

[nipples]

what better time than now? if i cant afford to buy diapers for my kid, i wont. so who cares if the tax becomes 200% LOL

[Burvs]

The hst is going to help us recover from the economic downturn faster, while not taking away from our many social amenities, which is surprising because usually the liberals have no problems cutting our social fat, so this is a nice change. I think if you understand economics and the cyclical nature of world finance you will see that a move like this has a lot less impact on peoples standards of living, not to mention it will help us get back to a place where tax cuts may be a viable option again. Personally I don't need much of any social assistance so i would rather go without and not pay the tax for everyone else, but I am a nice, democratic, and liberal person so I know that this option is generally the best route for us to go. Not to mention there is nothing anyone can do about it, besides move...

[Guy_LikeWhoa]

Soo.... not more GST checks?

HST checks now?

[skyxx]

^ You will get more in your "HST" checks when it's in effect.

[sil3nt]

^ good in some way