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IAAF asks for gender test on runner Semenya
MR_BIGGS
08-19-2009, 02:27 PM
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BERLIN (AP) - The IAAF has asked the South African athletics federation to conduct a gender verification test on 800-meter runner Caster Semenya amid concerns she does not meet the requirements to compete as a woman.
Caster Semenya. (Anja Niedringhaus / Associated Press)
The 18-year-old Semenya won the 800 final on Wednesday at the world championships in a world leading 1 minute, 55.45 seconds, beating defending champion Janeth Jepkosgei by a massive 2.45 seconds. Jennifer Meadows of Britain took bronze.
Olympic champion Pamela Jelimo was eliminated in qualifying.
The IAAF requested the gender test about three weeks ago, after Semenya burst onto the scene by slicing her personal bests in the 800 and 1,500 by huge margins.
IAAF spokesman Nick Davies stressed that "it's a medical issue, not an issue of cheating."
He said the "extremely complex, difficult" test has been started but that the results were not expected for weeks.
The verification test requires a physical medical evaluation, and includes reports from a gynecologist, endocrinologist, psychologist, an internal medicine specialist and an expert on gender.
"So we're talking about reports that are very long, very time consuming," Davies said.
South Africa team manager Phiwe Mlangeni-Tsholetsane would not confirm or deny that Semenya was having a gender test, but said "there was no cheating on our part."
"We entered Caster as a woman and we want to keep it that way," Mlangeni-Tsholetsane said. "Our conscience is clear in terms of Caster. We have no reservations at all about that."
Although medals will be awarded for the 800, the race remains under a cloud until the investigation is closed, and Semenya could be stripped of the gold depending on the test results, IAAF general secretary Pierre Weiss said.
"If at the end of the investigation it is proven that the athlete is not female, we will withdraw the medal," Weiss said. "But today there is no proof and the benefit of doubt must always be in favor of the athlete."
Semenya qualified for Wednesday's final with a top time of 1 minute, 58.64 seconds, and posted the world's top time this year of 1:56.72 three weeks ago at the African junior championships in Bambous, Mauritius.
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9956970/IAAF-asks-for-gender-test-on-runner-Semenya?GT1=39002
skyxx
08-19-2009, 02:28 PM
WTF? I don't get this....how hard is it to verify if she's a woman....
MR_BIGGS
08-19-2009, 02:30 PM
Dude looks like a lady
heres the link to the story:
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9956970/IAAF-asks-for-gender-test-on-runner-Semenya?GT1=39002
skyxx
08-19-2009, 02:32 PM
I mean like, can't you tell her to do a body inspection WTF!...LOl
q0192837465
08-19-2009, 02:33 PM
just cuz she broke record by a huge margin doesnt mean she's a man. I dun get it, how hard is it to verify gender? Just take off her pants & there, it's done. They'r afraid "she" is a tranny?
ilvtofu
08-19-2009, 02:35 PM
She should rename herself ilvtofu, and the estrogen will start building up :haha:
^
I read a how stuff works article about that, with all the sexual realignment surgery these days its not that simple. sorta like Mr. Man ;)
Vansterdam
08-19-2009, 02:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qRTu5I2loY&feature=fvst
Gumby
08-19-2009, 03:02 PM
The verification test requires a physical medical evaluation, and includes reports from a gynecologist, endocrinologist, psychologist, an internal medicine specialist and an expert on gender.
Wow they need to do all that just to ensure she's a female?
PiuYi
08-19-2009, 03:07 PM
what a slap in the face if shes actually a natural born woman
Sid Vicious
08-19-2009, 03:14 PM
while they're at it, might as well give "her" a sex test too
http://www.all-athletics.com/files/news_image/Priscilla_Lopes_Schliep.JPG
whoah...^ her ass is like...OUT THERE!
Mercy
08-19-2009, 03:53 PM
Not sure when 1940's 1950's there was a polish 100 meter women sprinter that dominated the scene, later it was found it she/he/it had a sex change to become a women. Not sure if it was found in an autopsy or how, just remember reading about it.
truth
08-19-2009, 08:44 PM
SEMENya
InvisibleSoul
08-19-2009, 10:46 PM
I think it's a little more complex than seeing whether there's a penis down there or not.
I think it's about whether the genes are XY or XX.
So they're checking the possibility that even though Semenya has no male reproductive parts, whether she has the genes of a male.
InvisibleSoul
08-19-2009, 10:47 PM
while they're at it, might as well give "her" a sex test too
http://www.all-athletics.com/files/news_image/Priscilla_Lopes_Schliep.JPG
Hey, don't disrespect one of Canada's best track and field athletes. :p
Manic!
08-19-2009, 11:19 PM
They had too do the same thing with female German weightlifters when athletes first started using steroids.
J____
08-19-2009, 11:28 PM
they're pretty much saying men > women then. I dont see feminists fight for this :/
That, is ............. uh.......... was, a he. Then got sex change. Now they want to make sure he is more of a she than a he.
What some athletes will do, huh?
If you can't win as a man, Kutsyournutsoff (sounds Russian) and become a woman and compete with them instead.
Unless the athlete is androgenous <sp?>......... ever see that movie Pat?
while they're at it, might as well give "her" a sex test too
http://www.all-athletics.com/files/news_image/Priscilla_Lopes_Schliep.JPG
Holy Jeebus........ if she was on top, she'd squeeze so hard you'd pass out from lack of circulation.
Skinny Chinese would break like twig.
StylinRed
08-20-2009, 01:03 AM
i can understand most of the tests they're going to do.... but why a psychological test???
oO
even if she was born a lady thats not the issue... which is ridiculous
they're pretty much saying men > women then. I dont see feminists fight for this :/
feminists don't play sports.
MR_BIGGS
08-20-2009, 10:31 AM
feminism is a sport..and they've been a losing franchise for centuries.
Manic!
08-20-2009, 11:16 AM
check out this story:
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/8-7-2006-104774.asp
Canadian Women’s Downhill Biking Champ Used To Be a Man
It was the second place winner who created all the fuss.
Getting beat doesn’t bring out the best in people, so when downhiller Michelle Dumaresq beat Danika Schroeter by a second, Schroeter went for a change of clothes. She then appeared on the winner’s podium wearing a t-shirt that read, "100% Pure Woman Champ 2006."
The problem Schroeter has with Dumaresq is that while Schroeter was born a woman, Dumaresq was born male. In the late 1990s, Dumaresq underwent a sex change. She was not a competitive biker at that point, but she had been riding bikes for years. It was not until her sex change that she started competing and doing so in the women’s category.
While she now produces lower levels of testosterone since her sex change, some female contenders say that even though she lost more than 30 pounds since her operation, she still possesses a significant weight and muscle advantage that gives her an unfair competitive advantage, some riders have told the Vancouver Sun. Dumaresq stands tall at 6’1" and weighs in at 180 pounds.
Once she started racing, she was an overnight success.
Schroeter has now been banned by the Canadian Cycling Association from the sport for three months. As one of the top five female bikers in the downhill competition, she will miss the World Championships in New Zealand in late August of this year.
Schroeter has apologized for wearing the shirt and her boyfriend, John Starcevic, who created the shirt and put it on his girlfriend "before she knew what she was wearing," Starcevic told the Sun.
Though Dumaresq has never been charged with using any kind of steroid, this brings a new wrinkle into the discussion of what should and shouldn’t be allowed in competitive sports. Dumaresq is now fully a woman, she protests, and the public generally accepts the story and her motives behind the sex change. What remains, however, is years of training muscle as a man, years of having testosterone refine the muscular structure and possessing a body structure that has only had three of her 30 years to adjust to the introduction of progesterone and estrogen.
Simply put, one Canadian blogger says, she’s reaping years of what could be considered steroid training much like the Eastern European Olympians who were for so long chemically altered.
"A coach I know made an analogy between Ms. Dumaresq and an athlete who dopes illegally for years, then cleans up their act: even though they are clean now, they still have an advantage from the years of "super-training" they were able to do," blogger Ryan Cousineau noted.
"In the simplest example, steroids are generally described as ‘recovery’ drugs. The big advantage is not that they somehow make you stronger, but that they speed up your ability to respond to (and bounce back from) hard training efforts: the result is you can train harder and more often with more effectiveness. Using an advantage like that allows a cheating athlete to build up base fitness that remains long after becoming ‘drug-free.’"
RRxtar
08-20-2009, 11:37 AM
the way that Caster Semenya article was written makes it sound like everyone knows shes mostly a dude, they just want to see exactly how much dude she is. even the way the south african team manager's quote goes it sounds like hes saying "ya we know shes a he, but we are hoping hes enough of a she to pass as a she."
its not good enough just checking for dangly bits anymore
shenmecar
08-20-2009, 11:46 AM
thats why im not an athlete, if you win, you get questioned and if you lose, you get shamed for. Stressful life as an athlete.
q0192837465
08-20-2009, 11:55 AM
thats why im not an athlete, if you win, you get questioned and if you lose, you get shamed for. Stressful life as an athlete.
Not unless u'r Usain Bolt, no 1 questions his domination
MR_BIGGS
08-20-2009, 12:04 PM
Not unless u'r Usain Bolt, no 1 questions his domination
Another world record...19:19 in the 200 m...broke his own record..this guy is sick
he must get tested every day....people will start questioning the whole Jamican team - cause they are dominating the track right now...i hope he's legit......he should have his own Nike (I am WITNESS) shirt..
RRxtar
08-20-2009, 01:53 PM
whats crazy is he ran the second 100m as fast as he set the record for the first 100m. he kept 100% pace for the full 200m
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/8/20/1250754816108/South-Africas-Caster-Seme-001.jpg
Gary Oak
08-20-2009, 02:37 PM
men and women are both equal ?
sonick
08-20-2009, 03:12 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/08/custom_1250706057090_caster.jpg
http://www.advocate.com/uploadedImages/ADVOCATE/EDITORIAL/NEWS/20090819/Caster_SemenyaX390.jpg
SkinnyPupp
08-20-2009, 04:26 PM
while they're at it, might as well give "her" a sex test too
http://www.all-athletics.com/files/news_image/Priscilla_Lopes_Schliep.JPG
At first I thought this was the athlete they were talking about, and thought "wtf that is clearly a woman, these people are retarded!"
Then I saw these, and realized that some loser just posted a picture of a completely unrelated athlete, for some stupid reason.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/08/custom_1250706057090_caster.jpg
http://www.advocate.com/uploadedImages/ADVOCATE/EDITORIAL/NEWS/20090819/Caster_SemenyaX390.jpg
Sure looks like a dude to me.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/08/custom_1250706057090_caster.jpg
MAD SUSPECT
europeeing
08-21-2009, 12:24 AM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/8/20/1250754816108/South-Africas-Caster-Seme-001.jpg
Mustache much?
asian_XL
08-21-2009, 06:54 AM
I have never seen a black shemale
BNR32_Coupe
08-21-2009, 08:02 AM
they're making sure she wasnt born as a he. it doesnt matter if she has tits and a vag
Gumby
08-21-2009, 09:58 AM
I have never seen a black shemale
Comments such as the above from you mean a lot, cuz I'm sure you've seen a LOT of shemales. :lol
7seven
09-10-2009, 02:15 PM
Newspaper: Runner has male, female sex organs
SYDNEY - World 800-metre champion Caster Semenya of South Africa has male and female sexual organs, the Sydney Morning Herald reported Friday, posing an ethical and political quandary for world track and field's ruling body.
The Herald said extensive physical examinations of the 18-year-old runner ordered by the IAAF have shown she is technically a hermaphrodite.
Medical reports indicate she has no ovaries, but rather has internal male testes, which are producing large amounts of testosterone.
The newspaper said the IAAF was trying to contact the athlete to inform her of the results.
After dominating her race at the world championships in Berlin last month, Semenya was given blood and chromosome tests as well as a gynecological examination.
"This is a medical issue and not a doping issue where she was deliberately cheating,'' IAAF spokesman Nick Davies was quoted as saying by the newspaper.
"These tests do not suggest any suspicion of deliberate misconduct but seek to assess the possibility of a potential medical condition which would give Semenya an unfair advantage over her competitors. There is no automatic disqualification of results in a case like this.''
The IAAF has said Semenya would probably keep her medal because the case was not related to a drug matter. But the Herald said an alternative possibility was to award a second gold to the runner-up, Janeth Jepkosgei from Kenya.
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=15589.html?cid=rsstsn
q0192837465
09-10-2009, 02:22 PM
omgggggggggggg.............wtffffffffffff......... .........bbqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
Not really racist!
09-10-2009, 02:31 PM
lool
lady gaga
now an olympian
RRxtar
09-10-2009, 03:00 PM
shovel her/him/it into the 'tard olympics then...
... since she/he/it's a broken human.
MR_BIGGS
09-10-2009, 03:06 PM
It has internal balls.
Whatever, she's not cheating...you can't really disciminate against her..i say its all gravy...
Hondaracer
09-10-2009, 03:27 PM
they said the win wont be overturned, but she/he wont be allowed to race in the womans races anymore lol
Lomac
09-10-2009, 03:38 PM
So... if she wont be allowed to race in the female races, will she be allowed to race with the men?
InvisibleSoul
09-10-2009, 04:03 PM
So... if she wont be allowed to race in the female races, will she be allowed to race with the men?
She should be allowed, except she would get destroyed.
Hondaracer
09-10-2009, 04:55 PM
what does she even race in? 100?
bolt country
Vansterdam
09-10-2009, 07:24 PM
if shes/he/it is not allowed to race then they should just make a whole new race/league/whatever devoted to hermaphrodite.
3seriesBeeM
09-10-2009, 07:58 PM
if they dont allow him/her/it to race in the womans races anymore than he/she/it should not be allowed to race in the mens either. poor thing has no where to race
dna82
09-10-2009, 08:21 PM
if they dont allow him/her/it to race in the womans races anymore than he/she/it should not be allowed to race in the mens either. poor thing has no where to race
she would race in the mens division if he was good enough but lets face it. there's only a seperated mens/womens track because women can't realistically compete against men.
dizzystar
09-11-2009, 02:41 PM
its funny that people are relying on a test done in africa..
africa... LOLS
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