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08-24-2009, 01:33 AM
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| Learning Chinese - Simplified or Traditional
So I'm trying to pick up Chinese again.... and learning how to write/read it.
What's recommended, simplified chinese or traditional?
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08-24-2009, 01:58 AM
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I would say traditional.
Simplified is easy to pick up when you start noticing the "differences" in certain characters. But I'll wait for a more Chinese literate person to chime in, as my written Chinese skills are very low.
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08-24-2009, 01:59 AM
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Always start with Traditional first. It's the best in my opinion. Learn the hardest first, you'll get simplified quite easily after you learn traditional.
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08-24-2009, 02:06 AM
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any mainlanders wanna chime in?
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Having learned written Chinese from scratch (I was 100% illiterate as a kid) in my teens, and having gone to China (where they use Simplified) and Taiwan (where they use Traditional).. LEARN TRADITIONAL.
I was lucky and got shoved into a Traditional school by my parents. It's not hard to read both types.
My friends who took Simplified are, in a nutshell, completely crippled whenever someone throws anything Traditional at them.
With the exception of a handful of characters, anyone who knows Traditional can read both. Not so simple for those who only know Simplified.
My understanding is also that people who can read/write traditional are seen as "higher class" as well, which may help if you're involved with business. Notice how Hong Kong and Taiwan and any expat hangouts use Traditional, while ONLY China uses Simplified. And yes, I've heard Honger/Twanger fobs say things like "Mainlanders are so backwards, they can't even read their own traditional script". 
The way I see it, Traditional vs Simplified is like British English vs Ebonics.  Or, in car terms, driving a stock Porsche vs a Honda with a mismatched body kit and NOS stickers.
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08-24-2009, 02:48 AM
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08-24-2009, 03:00 AM
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yes, traditional is more difficult to learn, so what?
it's about practicality. People who know traditional also knows how to read simplified, but
a lot of mainlanders cannot read/write traditional. I would say pick the easiest and most
people can read.
in fact, only a couple thousand chinese words are simplified, so it's not like it takes x2 as
much time to learn the other one.
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08-24-2009, 03:09 AM
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simplified.... that's what china uses..... why would u learn traditional? some traditional words(that were changed) are impossible to write and there's no point since only Taiwan uses it and we all know they're going to get engulfed in the end and conform
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08-24-2009, 05:59 AM
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Traditional, simplified is for the illiterates who can't handle traditional.
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My literacy is limited, but I'd recommend traditional. It's not that much harder to learn and it is very easy to recognize the common simplifications after a little while.
Incidentally, traditional is still used in HK and I don't really recall seeing simplified locally, either.
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08-24-2009, 06:56 AM
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doesnt matter if Traditional or Simplified, you'll pick it up pretty fast
work on pronunciation, watch a few chinese movies, get a chinese dictionary, and try some lines out with chinese friends
trying to upgrade my low level mandarin too here
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08-24-2009, 07:25 AM
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simplified characters don't make sense
there's a reason why traditional characters are the way they are and then some words were made simplified i guess people got lazy?
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wasnt simplified chinese utilized in order to get more illiterate people (rural population) moderately educated in the shortest time possible?
but many characters that are simplified have already made its way into traditional characters. for example, 1-10 is the first one that comes to mind.
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08-24-2009, 07:48 AM
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it wasn't just illiterate people it was people in general had an unsurprisingly hard time with the complex characters and so a move to simplification was made
lets not forget chinese characters started out as extremely, almost jokingly, simple and turned into something so complex even a learned person would have trouble with it so it was knocked down a peg
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08-24-2009, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KuSouL simplified characters don't make sense
there's a reason why traditional characters are the way they are and then some words were made simplified i guess people got lazy? | Agreed, at least traditional the composition of each character makes sense. Traditional some hacked up garbage!
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08-24-2009, 08:32 AM
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simplified characters don't make sense? do they need to make sense?
try to write 議...then write the simplified version of it --> 议
it saves you so much time if you actually write.
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08-24-2009, 08:45 AM
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i grew up learning traditional chinese plus i could read simplifed too
but now im limited to reading chinese cuz i am a lazy ass
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08-24-2009, 09:13 AM
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Don't stoop down to FOB status, learn traditional
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08-24-2009, 09:16 AM
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i learned simplified chinese when i grew up in china, but since i came to vancouver all the chinese i've been reading has been in traditional (mingpao, singtao, tv subtitles), im more familiar w/ traditional now, however i have some probs writing but zero probs typing.
depends on what u want to do with read/writing chinese, if ur gonna be spending a significant time on the mainland then learn simplified. if all u wanna do is read some newspapers or spending time in tw/hk go for traditional. doesnt matter which u learn really, u can guess meaning of the words most of the time just by context.
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i just copy and pasted some simplified chinese from a frnds msn name, so u can see its not much diff.
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08-24-2009, 09:49 AM
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cant traditional and simplifed chinese poeple live together happily?
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08-24-2009, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KuSouL simplified characters don't make sense
there's a reason why traditional characters are the way they are and then some words were made simplified i guess people got lazy? | +1
The characters started out as oracles. Each character has its own meaning
For example: 
You can see how the characters evolve from the oracles to what we use today. Simplified is easier to write, I agree. However, sometimes it really doesn't make sense.
The pronunciation for "face" is "Mian", which is the same pronunciation as "noodle". The traditional character for face is 面 and for noodle is 麵 In simplified Chinese, they both use the character for "face" to represent the two. The reason why "noodle" is written like that is because noodle is made of wheat flour. Hence, the character of wheat " 麥" is part of the character of "noodle"
It's not that I'm hatin' on simplified Chinese. It's more convenient, I gotta admit, but it's just sometimes it doesn't make sense.
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08-24-2009, 01:16 PM
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I say traditional, because Hong Kong and Taiwan still uses it.
Although I learned some simplified, because that's what the prof taught at Langara  wish she taught traditional instead, though.
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08-24-2009, 01:32 PM
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Simplified if you just want to be able to use Chinese.
Traditional if you REALLY want to know Chinese.
Traditional is GREAT, but so are the amount of hours you need to invest in to learn.
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08-24-2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed simplified.... that's what china uses..... why would u learn traditional? some traditional words(that were changed) are impossible to write and there's no point since only Taiwan uses it and we all know they're going to get engulfed in the end and conform | Hong Kong still use traditional
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08-24-2009, 03:59 PM
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traditional. try explaining over the phone to someone how to write a bloody mess that simplified is
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