[Durrann1984]

RIP

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Witnesses like the construction workers across the street are being offered counselling after what is being described as a graphic accident. The 32-year-old woman pushing her two-year-old in a stroller had been crossing Expo Boulevard at Abbott Street when a white flatbed truck turning right struck the pair.

Constable Jana McGuinness with the Vancouver Police Department says the young child was dead almost immediately. The mother has been taken to hospital with serious injuries. "There are few incidents more tragic than the loss of a child and our deepest sympathies go out to the family and everyone affected by this today."

The driver has been taken by police and is cooperating in the investigation.

[Psykopathik]

OMFG...RIP

[Rich Sandor]

RIP little one.

Harsh reminder - LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET.

You NEVER KNOW if the vehicle is going to stop for you!

[Vansterdam]

rip little one.

[Drow]

RIP...

[Harvey Specter]

So sad. RIP.

[slammer111]

Harsh reminder - LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET.

You NEVER KNOW if the vehicle is going to stop for you!Actually, the lesson learned here is NEVER STAND RIGHT AT THE CORNER when waiting to cross. My dad ALWAYS taught my sisters and I to stand at least 2-3m back. Trucks and semis turning right hop onto the curbs all the time! To be honest I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often with all the retarded "righteous" pedestrians all over this hippie-town.

RIP.

[124Y]

That is so sad...especially I was on the other thread about yielding to pedestrians and joking about hitting them. :(

[JSALES]

R.I.P.

[maxx]

sorry to hear


how do you NOT see a flatbed truck?

[ac87]

rip :(

[bengy]

Actually, the lesson learned here is NEVER STAND RIGHT AT THE CORNER when waiting to cross. My dad ALWAYS taught my sisters and I to stand at least 2-3m back. Trucks and semis turning right hop onto the curbs all the time! To be honest I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often with all the retarded "righteous" pedestrians all over this hippie-town.

RIP.

They were crossing the street, not standing on the corner. If the truck was turning right and the driver was arrested, that means he didn't stop for them to finish crossing.

[3seriesBeeM]

damn sad to hear RIP and hopefully the mom fully recovers

[Ch28]

damn sad to hear RIP and hopefully the mom fully recovers

No parent will ever recover from seeing their own baby run over like that.

RIP to the little one :(

[Harvey Specter]

Tow truck drivers are as careless as cab drivers. You should some of these idiots hauling ass during rush hour with no care in the world for other drivers or pedestrians.

[ilvtofu]

FUCKEN VANCOUVER CONSTRUCTION... best place on earth my arse... :(

[impactX]

RIP little one.

Harsh reminder - LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET.

You NEVER KNOW if the vehicle is going to stop for you!

Unfortunately, looking both ways before crossing won't do jack in this situation.

You have to look behind you (as that truck was making a right on "green") in order to tell that a vehicle is coming.

[impactX]

FUCKEN VANCOUVER CONSTRUCTION... best place on earth my arse... :(

WTF does this have to do with this thread?

[Meowjin]

Tow truck drivers are as careless as cab drivers. You should some of these idiots hauling ass during rush hour with no care in the world for other drivers or pedestrians.

this.

[pandalove]

RIP tragic

but to be honest there is a problem with pedestrians in vancouver... they dun look before crossing the street they act like the cars can stop in time for them and its their right like they own the street

if they walked like that in hk ... hit them 9 generations ago

still RIP

[InvisibleSoul]

I saw something similar to this just a few days ago... forgot where I was, but same deal... a big truck turning right was literally within a couple meters from hitting a mother and young daughter standing on the sidewalk.

[jimzilla]

RIP baby

[bengy]

Tow truck drivers are as careless as cab drivers. You should some of these idiots hauling ass during rush hour with no care in the world for other drivers or pedestrians.

Might seem careless to you, but when you work that job, time is money, and no truck driver is gonna sit around and wait for the idiots around him to get moving. Most truckers are better drivers than most commuters on the road.

[B-DiZzLe]

rip

[Nvasion]

RIP. i know its very sad but i always see people crossing the street before looking for cars... they just look down or straight ahead and dont even care about the incomings.

[Poonpee]

FUCKEN VANCOUVER CONSTRUCTION... best place on earth my arse... :(

have you been outside of vancouver ?
try to live in any asia country !

[bengy]

http://www.theprovince.com/news/year+girl+killed+truck+hits+stroller/1932466/story.html

[penner2k]

Might seem careless to you, but when you work that job, time is money, and no truck driver is gonna sit around and wait for the idiots around him to get moving. Most truckers are better drivers than most commuters on the road.

Especially downtown you gotta just go sometimes.. If you wait cuz you think someone MIGHT walk out on the street you will never turn and ppl will start getting pissed.

This is a shitty situation for everyone involved..

[dub.g]

http://www.theprovince.com/news/year+girl+killed+truck+hits+stroller/1932466/story.html

omfg

that picture of the paramedic sitting there brought tears to my eye

paramedics has to be one of most stressful and depressing jobs out there to see people's body condition after an accident and in the scene

but ya, really tragic, hope the mother recovers but seriously, even she will be tormented for years.. RIP

[Meowjin]

Might seem careless to you, but when you work that job, time is money, and no truck driver is gonna sit around and wait for the idiots around him to get moving. Most truckers are better drivers than most commuters on the road.

ah right, so other road users safety < money

[slammer111]

I take back what I said earlier. I incorrectly assumed the truck was turning right. He was turning left instead. Probably tried to clear the intersection to avoid oncoming traffic then, instead of waiting. I admit I've done that before a few times.

The question now is whether or not the mother had a clear WALK symbol at the time of the collision or if she was trying to rush across an intersection that recently flipped to solid DON'T WALK as well. In any case, this is a lesson of Situational Awareness for all.

RIP.

[Rich Sandor]

Regardles of who was at fault or how it happened, you should STILL, ALWAYS, OPEN YOUR EYES and BE AWARE of what traffic is doing around you.

I see SO MANY people jogging with headphones on, looking ONLY straight ahead as they run through intersections - I just want to get out and SMACK THEM in the head and tell them to BE AWARE.

[silk]

this is a sad story..


pedestrians and cyclists are 2 biggest hazards in downtown core !!!
pedestrians never pay attention to the signal ... when there is a HAND signal present even with the green light... that means pedestrians needs to STOP and time for car to make turns !!! 95% of the pedestrians do not follow... they usually try crossing the streets at 0.5km/hr or talking on phone, texting and shit..
if you honk at them, the mad ones will come smack on your car hood and shit...
now i just dont bother..... let all motherfucking pedestrians passed first while swearing in the car .. LOL
that fucking pissed me off

[quasi]

So sad, if that happened to my son I don't think I'd even want to live anymore. Pretty sure I'd be broken and totally shattered inside, I hope that mother finds a way.

[R8]

RIP... gastown / abbot st is mostly 1 way.. and i must admit... some cars just fly by even though there are a lot of pedestrians.... rip again..

[m3lv_VIII]

RIP...sorry to hear

[Harvey Specter]

Hopefully the mother surives.

[racerman88]

this is a sad incident and with the way the drivers are, even when I get the green light to cross, I wait and check to make sure no cars are going to turn without stopping like in this case.

[bengy]

ah right, so other road users safety < money

If you drive a small car, you should watch out for your own safety, not rely on the driver of that big truck bearing down on you to keep you safe.

and yes, when you're in the cab of those big ass trucks money > everyone else. harsh, but that's just the way it is. it's the world we live in.

[Meowjin]

If you drive a small car, you should watch out for your own safety, not rely on the driver of that big truck bearing down on you to keep you safe.

and yes, when you're in the cab of those big ass trucks money > everyone else. harsh, but that's just the way it is. it's the world we live in.

shut the fuck up. You're not clever, or smart you're a dumb ass.

[nsmb]

its the moms fault

[penner2k]

So sad, if that happened to my son I don't think I'd even want to live anymore. Pretty sure I'd be broken and totally shattered inside, I hope that mother finds a way.

What about the driver? How would you feel if you killed someones kid?

[Bonjour43MA]

and yes, when you're in the cab of those big ass trucks money > everyone else. harsh, but that's just the way it is. it's the world we live in.

are you a truck driver? this is the dumbest reason I've ever seen for explaining why there are careless truck drivers in the downtown area.

it's OK to drive that way just to make a few more bucks? and "that's the way it is?"

NO - you fucking MAKE AN EFFORT to be careful not to hit someone when you're driving downtown... the responsibility is on YOU since you're in a car , and using money as an excuse to be a poor driver is just stupid.

[HonestTea]

Fuck...this is extremely sad :(

RIP :( :( :(

[iEatClams]

If you drive a small car, you should watch out for your own safety, not rely on the driver of that big truck bearing down on you to keep you safe.

and yes, when you're in the cab of those big ass trucks money > everyone else. harsh, but that's just the way it is. it's the world we live in.

WTF? ?? $@$@I298794u29322342??Qhviaushf?? ? ? ? ? ??

I don't have a link to a facepalm picture, but this deserves one.




RIP to the child.

[bengy]

are you a truck driver? this is the dumbest reason I've ever seen for explaining why there are careless truck drivers in the downtown area.

it's OK to drive that way just to make a few more bucks? and "that's the way it is?"

NO - you fucking MAKE AN EFFORT to be careful not to hit someone when you're driving downtown... the responsibility is on YOU since you're in a car , and using money as an excuse to be a poor driver is just stupid.

Uhhh yeah, it takes a lot of effor to drive like that and not hit anybody. We don't know exactly how things went down, but ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

How do you know the guy is careless? Maybe he just didn't see the lady. Jumping to conclusions much.

And no I'm not a tow truck driver, but I know a few ;)

[clowe]

Wow RIP...:(

Reminds me of this one time near Lansdowne Mall, they were doing construction there and somehow managed to turn one of the pedestrian lights to face the other direction so it gave pedestrians a walk signal even though it should have been a solid hand signal. A family was crossing and was wondering why cars were still going through :eek:

[Bonjour43MA]

Uhhh yeah, it takes a lot of effor to drive like that and not hit anybody. We don't know exactly how things went down, but ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

How do you know the guy is careless? Maybe he just didn't see the lady. Jumping to conclusions much.

And no I'm not a tow truck driver, but I know a few ;)

again, you're STILL defending BAD truck / cab drivers by saying that it's:

1. really hard to drive fast in a big truck / fast cab
2. hard to drive aggressive in a confined space with lots of people
3. ok to drive aggressively to make a few more bucks, without any care of the safety of the pedestrians

i'm not talking about this specific incident where we don't know enough details yet to determine what had happened exactly. the point is that someone mentioned that there are too many lousy truck / cab drivers in town, and you jumped out to say that it's the way it is because that's how they drive and how they work.... THAT'S what people get worked up about - the fact that you keep saying it is OKAY to do so ( to be bad drivers) because of their occupation. Well, it is NOT.

anyway.. sad story, but serves to remind us to be REALLY aware of your surroundings when crossing intersections on foot, and if you're the driver - to be extremely careful when driving in a densely populated area.

[jlo mein]

I agree with both arguments that drivers and pedestrians should both be more aware.

Tonight I was night driving in Surrey on a red light and turned right when there was no traffic, only to slam on the breaks when a dog darted out onto the road and a man after him (when the crosswalk said stop). I yelled at him to put his dog on a leash and then he gave me the finger.

:mad:

[nabs]

this is extremely sad, RIP young one.

[Gt-R R34]

i saw the bags...while i was driving home from work.

so tramatic..

[ziggyx]

If you drive a small car, you should watch out for your own safety, not rely on the driver of that big truck bearing down on you to keep you safe.

and yes, when you're in the cab of those big ass trucks money > everyone else. harsh, but that's just the way it is. it's the world we live in.


You think that ICBC would let you fucking pass a drivers test if they heard you say that? let alone just run over everyone to get to your destination quickly because "Time is money"?

There's a reason why we have driving tests so shit like this doesn't fucking happen you idiot.

[PHO?]

r.i.p

[Harvey Specter]

I was talking in general about tow truck and cab drivers been careless but please, save me the BS about "time is money" because that doesn't give you the right to do well over 80+km's on city streets, run through red lights, cut other drivers off, tailgate and the list goes on and it sure in hell doesn't give you the right to put other peoples lives in danger.

[Unagi]

OMG, that's soo sad..
RIP

[hal0g0dv2]

rip

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

you'd think people would pay more attention when crossing streets full of speeding giant metal machines that can crush and kill you just like that... especially a mother with her child, she should be even more aware.

ICBC, highschools or something, should show people videos of people getting hit by cars, even the gory ones, maybe just blurred :P

that way it teaches people to be aware of the streets, it's the machine's world, not ours. and it would probably teach people to slow down too, but probably not, cuz you know, people in cars know they're protected against flesh, and they have the adrenaline of achieving super human speeds at just a touch of their right feet. whereas pedestrians don't really have any reason to just be more fucking careful.

[SpuGen]

94m_P4-0wXw

Wait till about 1:20

[achiam]

Bengyman you motherfuck i hope a semi-trailer rig crashes through your house and runs over your penis.

[!Nhan]

That is one of the worst places to cross the street at. I do it at least 4 days a week and cars are always flying, not saying I don't fly down there myself, but it's pretty dangerous. I saw the covers over the baby and the cops all with their heads down. Pretty sad sight.

I also heard that the mother died enroute to the hospital? Not too sure, but RIP.

[bengy]

I was talking in general about tow truck and cab drivers been careless but please, save me the BS about "time is money" because that doesn't give you the right to do well over 80+km's on city streets, run through red lights, cut other drivers off, tailgate and the list goes on and it sure in hell doesn't give you the right to put other peoples lives in danger.

I never said it's ok. I just said that's why it happens.

[thumper]

i don't know why this was not mentioned in the news reports, but if any of you have been in that area (or gone through that intersection in particular), the city has ripped up sections of sidewalk to be repaired or rebuilt, INCLUDING THE HANDICAP RAMPS AT THE CORNERS (note: mom with baby in stroller). there are pylons, etc. everywhere and as a pedestrian you are forced to walk on the street as close to the shoulder as possible to get around it :(

[hotjoint]

wow rip

[Mr.HappySilp]

this is a sad story..


pedestrians and cyclists are 2 biggest hazards in downtown core !!!
pedestrians never pay attention to the signal ... when there is a HAND signal present even with the green light... that means pedestrians needs to STOP and time for car to make turns !!! 95% of the pedestrians do not follow... they usually try crossing the streets at 0.5km/hr or talking on phone, texting and shit..
if you honk at them, the mad ones will come smack on your car hood and shit...
now i just dont bother..... let all motherfucking pedestrians passed first while swearing in the car .. LOL
that fucking pissed me off

LOL to be honest is usually the car that is turing right that usually cause accident. They hardly ever checks to see if anyone is crossing the road. Happens everyday when I go to work.

[Euro7r]

Downtown traffic is ridiculous all the time during the day time. Taxi's piss me off the most, cutting everywhere and flooring it. I just never budge, block them off and not let them cut in. They think they're the king or something.

[Simplex123]

R.I.P

[SumAznGuy]

I've seen first hand someone who was run over by the front wheels of a giant 8 wheel'd cement mixer. She was run over on the lower half of her body and I tried my best to give her first aid while we waited for the paramedics to arrive. It was definately a sight I will remember and everyday it reminds me to look both ways before crossing the street.

RIP.

[wouwou]

As pissed as I am for that truck driver to not check before making the right turn, as a parent I will NEVER trust someone else to not making a mistake when I am crossing with my kids.

Right of way doesn't matter, if a car runs red and hits you, YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD.

[ChyahGT]

rip..

[K3604]

R.I.P and I cant even begin to start with how the mother will cope w/ the loss of her child. I hope she makes it through everything. This is another reason why life is so precious, and how it can be lost in just a second. =(

[Meowjin]

drove past there. Old chinese people doing prayers.

[ghosty]

so sad :(

[jnesss]

rip - not always the driver's fault.

i was coming down venables once and a mom tried to jaywalk across the street in front of me with several kids while pushing a stroller. she didn't even look left or right before proceeding.

drivers and pedestrians always gotta be on the lookout.

[Not really racist!]

Hate it when shit like this happens..

RIP, hope the mom recovers,

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

RIP



poor kid

[Mercy]

RIP

I see Moms holding their kids by the wrist and jay walking everywhere i go, i really wish people would open their eyes at what they're doing and how dangerous the things they're doing really are. (This has nothing to do with what happened i just wish people were more Aware) Also where i live theres a huge park across the street and theres a pedestrian crossing and lights about 300m apart from each other and i still see kids jaywalking, HOW HARD IS IT TO WALK 150M EATHIR WAY TO A MORE SAFE CROSSING THEN JAYWALKING YOU'RE GOING THAT WAY ANYWAY.

[Death2Theft]

I dont know about you guys but as far as i know you can't turn right on that corner it's 1 way traffic.

[dealt]

so sad R.I.P.

Today when I was driving down on west 1st, a mid 20 year old girl holding a cake, "J-RUNS" across the street and doesn't bother looking both ways. Luckily I was going 40km/h (no cars were behind me) and had time to stop safely. The thing is, she continued running and didn't even look!!!

[m4k4v4li]

whats for dinner

[eurochevy]

RIP to the little one

Let this be a reminder to all thoughs ppl who take right turns regardless of it being green OR red and not stopping at the line first at least on a red and makeing sure no ones crossing/ bike isn't coming up beside u ..and also for greens take the corner slower ..theres lots of stupid ppl that go and cross the street on a curved right turn where u can't see too far past the lines...its only a matter of time bfore someone takes the corner to fast without looking at the corner/ ahead of them and hit someone .. be careful everyone could be you or your child one day think about it

[AzNightmare]

This is pathetic. Can this be any more easier? Seriously.

Orange hand signal means don't cross. White man signal means, cross.

Red light means stop. Green light means Go.

Turn when there is no one crossing the street.

Not rocket science. But so many people apparently make it so.

[tegz]

Well a quote from the article at the Province says: ""The [woman] had the walk sign and pushed off and the truck tried to make a wide turn and hit the carriage," said Fawcett."

So the pedestrians had the right of way and the truck made a right turn into the baby I guess.

[sh0n]

Hey folks - just thought I'd give my assement of the situation.

I personally live the area and was able to witness the after affects of the incident. I saw the police spokeswomen giving the general interview and could tell from her tone that it wasn't good. The overall mode at the scene was pretty mellow they were covering the accident scenes with drapes and had the firetruck crew to come and clean it up.

Personally I feel very bad for everyone involved - the little child, mother, emergency crew, police, all the eye witnesses and maybe even the driver. No one wanted such a thing to happen but it did and lets just say it really does have affects on people's lives.

A few of my rants given the situation.

- Given the situation, I mean we had over 4-5 years of construction and this is one of the few major accidents. It;s almost a blessing in a bad way that more accidents didn't happen.
- The whole Keefer and Abbott area is a gong show. I personally live in that area for the last year and most of the sidewalk would be always blocked off cause they are continously doing shit at the Espana development. Its just tragic that an accident like this had to happen near the completion of the building. Personally I think that the development company should be somewhat liable - they could have put more signs up or done something to slow down traffic and detour people from walking on the side of the streets which may or may not had a cause to the traffic.
- People in Vancouver should take extra caution when crossing the road. It almost feels like there is an ingrained behavior that pedestrians always have the right of way. Its not true - cause last I checked even if you have the right of way, you won't outlast getting hit/smashed by a car. Just remember to double/triple check when crossing the street cause you can never be too sure.

In this case with all the news reports, we really don't know what happened. But so far the indications looked like the flatbed truck driver was trying to make a wide turn and hit/clipped the baby carriage and the women.

The police actually confiscated the secured video surveillance from all the buildings around that corner. Maybe then we would know what truly happened.

But in the end RIP to the little girl, the mother, family and friends and all that is affected.

[Noir]

RIP to the little one

Let this be a reminder to all thoughs ppl who take right turns regardless of it being green OR red and not stopping at the line first at least on a red and makeing sure no ones crossing/ bike isn't coming up beside u ..and also for greens take the corner slower ..theres lots of stupid ppl that go and cross the street on a curved right turn where u can't see too far past the lines...its only a matter of time bfore someone takes the corner to fast without looking at the corner/ ahead of them and hit someone .. be careful everyone could be you or your child one day think about it

Unfortunately that's one of the byproducts of living in a region of car-culture. When you drive as much as the average guy; 5 days to & fro occupational commute and reacreationally on weekends. Plus the fact that most of the population is now being pushed to reside from complete differing cities from that which they work, I can totally see why cautiousness and due diligence decline in eventuality as a driver matures.

Something's gotta change.

[ericthehalfbee]

Did anyone see the article in today's Sun?

Apparently this guy has diabetes and is having his medication "adjusted" to deal with it. He was employed at Via Rail years ago and they tried to fire him for falling asleep on the job twice. The arbitrator said they couldn't fire him because it was the diabetes which caused him to fall asleep.

WTF?

[pandalove]

Did anyone see the article in today's Sun?

Apparently this guy has diabetes and is having his medication "adjusted" to deal with it. He was employed at Via Rail years ago and they tried to fire him for falling asleep on the job twice. The arbitrator said they couldn't fire him because it was the diabetes which caused him to fall asleep.

WTF?

OOOOOOHH CANNAAADAAAA

[chouchou]

^LOL!

anyways..... some new developments:
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - We are learning more details about the terrible crash at Abbot Street and Expo Boulevard that killed a two-year-old girl Wednesday. The mother is now in intensive care and OMNI TV has discovered she is Japanese.

The Japanese Consulate has confirmed the woman's parents are planning to come to Canada to be with their daughter.

The father of the truck driver who hit the pair says his son is having a tough time dealing with the incident. He has said his son has checked into the psychiatric ward at Burnaby General Hospital.

Tune into OMNI TV at 8 p.m. on Channel 8 for the very latest on this story.

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/more.jsp?content=20090828_163659_13008

[pandalove]

OH YOU DO NOT KILL A POTENTIALLY HOT JAPANESE GIRL WHITE BOY

[Meowjin]

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot pandalove.

[mr_piggy]

Actually, the lesson learned here is NEVER STAND RIGHT AT THE CORNER when waiting to cross. My dad ALWAYS taught my sisters and I to stand at least 2-3m back. Trucks and semis turning right hop onto the curbs all the time! To be honest I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often with all the retarded "righteous" pedestrians all over this hippie-town.

RIP.

LOL a lot of hate for Vancouver, you should move to Surrey! You'll fit right in with all the F150 driving meatheads there. :thumbsup:

RIP little kid.

[FI-Z33]

like it said in the newspaper, heaven received an angel today

[static]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/08/27/bc-fatal-toddler-accident-expo-boulevard-vancouver.html

I'll quote two parts i agree with.

Local residents say the intersection has been dangerous for pedestrians ever since construction to repair the sidewalk began two weeks ago.

Rejoice Kryzanowski told CBC News the repair work has forced her to walk out into traffic when crossing the street.

"Every day I'm crossing the street, the same thing happens. For two weeks I'm like, 'Oh my God, it could be me, oh my God it could be me.' And there is no reason for it," she said

What I'm sure is a gesture of courtesy is in fact a nuisance as well as a potentially dangerous habit, especially when there are numerous parallel live traffic lanes on either side of a lane of stopped traffic. If a driver waves me on to cross in front of his car I simply ignore them and wait until the road is empty to cross.

I'm not sure how similar this is to the case at hand, but the overly courteous driving habits can sometimes be as dangerous as careless driving.

I am totally the person that waves people across the street even if i have the right of way, but it has always irked me when punk ass kids or nalgene bottle holding tree huggers think they own the streets and cross without checking left and right. Bikers are sometimes just as bad.

IF everyone drivers and pedestrians went about their business like nobody gave a fuck about their "rights" then i think everyone would be better off. People would drive more carefully, and pedestrians would cross more carefully.

RIP little one.

[AzNightmare]

OH YOU DO NOT KILL A POTENTIALLY HOT JAPANESE GIRL WHITE BOY

wtf does this have to do with anything.

I would have said the same if a white girl and her white baby got toasted by a Japanese drifting AE86 moron.

[E=mc²]

RIP to the little one

Let this be a reminder to all thoughs ppl who take right turns regardless of it being green OR red and not stopping at the line first at least on a red and makeing sure no ones crossing/ bike isn't coming up beside u ..and also for greens take the corner slower ..theres lots of stupid ppl that go and cross the street on a curved right turn where u can't see too far past the lines...its only a matter of time bfore someone takes the corner to fast without looking at the corner/ ahead of them and hit someone .. be careful everyone could be you or your child one day think about it


no kidding
a lot of impatient drivers out there. Twice today I got honked by 2 ppl at different areas where I was trying to turn right but either my view was obstructed or when it was not safe to turn right on red because of pedestrians/cars. Nothing a flipping of the bird and some profanity can't cure though.
impatient assholes these days.

[Girl]

WOW at the lack of respect some people have on such a sad and traumatic incident. Leave the jokes, stereotypes and finger pointing in Fight Club.

[Pocakj]

so many people dying ... so sad

[jeff_alexander]

People die everyday, the world keeps turning.

[BMW135i]

RIP , so young too. omg

hopefully the mom survive .

[BMW135i]

If you drive a small car, you should watch out for your own safety, not rely on the driver of that big truck bearing down on you to keep you safe.

and yes, when you're in the cab of those big ass trucks money > everyone else. harsh, but that's just the way it is. it's the world we live in.

Nobody ask for your negative opinion here.

[nickmak]

my sister lives at that intersection, it was pretty sad to see the markings on the ground since i had parked right where the mother had started walking. rip

[Death2Theft]

Truth be told in my experience just going on a bike ride to stanley park today I nearly ran over 3 different people that were absolutely oblivious to where they were going 2 of them on foot 1 on bike. We are talking close enuff that I could had to tuck my arms in to avoid hitting them. They all had one thing in common, they were women. One playing was playing with her sunglasses while crossing the street right into the bike lane, she looked like she was at some wedding reception. Second one was hugging someone in the pedestrian lane and after the hug she spun 180 and walked right into the bike lane, and her vapid response? "oh I almost got hit by a bike" Third one was on a bike i called "on your left" as i passed her I guess that startled her so she decided to hit the brakes and the guy behind her slammed into her. It's bad enough they wear high heels but shouldn't they especially look where they are going since they are already on poor footing?

On a side note it seemed like the hotter they are the more oblivious to the rules of the road like somehow they dont apply to them. Is this true anyone else notice this?
Hey folks - just thought I'd give my assement of the situation.

I personally live the area and was able to witness the after affects of the incident. I saw the police spokeswomen giving the general interview and could tell from her tone that it wasn't good. The overall mode at the scene was pretty mellow they were covering the accident scenes with drapes and had the firetruck crew to come and clean it up.

Personally I feel very bad for everyone involved - the little child, mother, emergency crew, police, all the eye witnesses and maybe even the driver. No one wanted such a thing to happen but it did and lets just say it really does have affects on people's lives.

A few of my rants given the situation.

- Given the situation, I mean we had over 4-5 years of construction and this is one of the few major accidents. It;s almost a blessing in a bad way that more accidents didn't happen.
- The whole Keefer and Abbott area is a gong show. I personally live in that area for the last year and most of the sidewalk would be always blocked off cause they are continously doing shit at the Espana development. Its just tragic that an accident like this had to happen near the completion of the building. Personally I think that the development company should be somewhat liable - they could have put more signs up or done something to slow down traffic and detour people from walking on the side of the streets which may or may not had a cause to the traffic.
- People in Vancouver should take extra caution when crossing the road. It almost feels like there is an ingrained behavior that pedestrians always have the right of way. Its not true - cause last I checked even if you have the right of way, you won't outlast getting hit/smashed by a car. Just remember to double/triple check when crossing the street cause you can never be too sure.

In this case with all the news reports, we really don't know what happened. But so far the indications looked like the flatbed truck driver was trying to make a wide turn and hit/clipped the baby carriage and the women.

The police actually confiscated the secured video surveillance from all the buildings around that corner. Maybe then we would know what truly happened.

But in the end RIP to the little girl, the mother, family and friends and all that is affected.