[K-Dub]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090105canoneos7d.asp

http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0909/Canon7d/lcd.jpg

http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0909/Canon7d/front.jpg

Gear lust...sigh. :(

Key features



18MP APS-C CMOS sensor
8 frames per second continuous shooting
1080p HD video recording with manual controls
3.0 inch Clear View II LCD screen with 920,000 dots
19-point AF system (all cross-type)
1.0x magnification and 100% coverage viewfinder
Wireless flash control (years behind Nikon, but finally..)
Environmental sealing

[TOPEC]

so it's gonna be 1 step lower than the 5D?
and is that a new lens? EF-S 15-85mm IS?

[bikerx]

rofls ... maybe i should wait out on my new camera then !

[[HuCk DuCk]]

so it's gonna be 1 step lower than the 5D?
and is that a new lens? EF-S 15-85mm IS?

still a 1.6 crop

[«CD^^®»]

is that a new lens? EF-S 15-85mm IS?

No that lens has been out for a long time. I think the 2nd EF-S lens?

edit: crap my bad I thought it said 16-85mm haha

[Ronin]

Hmmm...about a grand less than a 5D.

[Rikaro]

No that lens has been out for a long time. I think the 2nd EF-S lens?

edit: crap my bad I thought it said 16-85mm haha

it's okay CD. Your camera doesn't support EF-S lenses. Who is it to blame? :D

[patman18]

wonder if it'll have the same problem with the 50d with high noise at higher iso

[niforpix]

;6572846']still a 1.6 crop

wonder if it'll have the same problem with the 50d with high noise at higher iso

Don't matter to me if it's crop or not. Better for zoom lenses anyway.

As far as the noise goes, it's supposed to be much much better at higher ISO than 50D.

Definately thinking of getting this over the 5D. I don't need the full frame really. And this is gonna be a good $1,000 - $1,500 less than 5D. Plus I'll probably sell my 40D to cover at least 1/3 or the cost. Sounds like a good deal to me :) Can't wait till it comes out :D

[Mananetwork]

http://gizmodo.com/5349815/canon-7d-gallery//gallery?selectedImage=1

[moky]

okay best buy usa changed their prices already.

[moky]

On a side note, they are also already showing on Adorama.com
$1,699 USD for the body only and $1,899 USD with the EF 28-135mm

http://www.adorama.com/ICA7D.html (body only)
http://www.adorama.com/ICA7DK.html (with 28-135 kit lens)

[jlo mein]

hmmm...flood of used 50D's for cheap on the market?

[skyxx]

So is this a replacement or what?

[niforpix]

I don't think this would be a replacement. It's in between 50D and 5D for people who wants HD video but don't need full frame and can't afford to shell out extra $1,500, like myself :p

[skyxx]

But the thing is it's only like a couple hundred more compared to the 50D.

[Senna4ever]

wonder if it'll have the same problem with the 50d with high noise at higher iso
It seems like they've gotten rid of the banding issues that plague the 5D mkII & 50D.

[1exotic]

I was reading that this is a new line, between the 50D and 5DmkII... So it's not replacing anything.

$1699 for the body for what this camera has is a good deal.

[Senna4ever]

Wireless flash control (years behind Nikon, but finally..)

Erm, Minolta was the first company to introduce wireless flash with the 7xi body in 1991. It took Nikon 10 years to catch up, and it's still not as user friendly as the old Minolta system.

I would buy this camera if only canon would get rid of their hideous ergonomics.

[TOPEC]

hmmmm very tempting, maybe i'll get this one, or skip jump for the 5D

[77civic1200]

I would buy this camera if only canon would get rid of their hideous ergonomics.

Millions of people world wide use Canon SLR's without complaint, maybe its not the camera...

[Senna4ever]

Of course not...it's my personal preference, but a lot of pros also don't like canon's ergonomics. They use the canon system because of the 5D mkII and some of the lenses that have no current Nikon equivalent.

[roastpuff]

Might look into this a second body for my 5D2... I like that new 19-point AF system and viewfinder LCD overlay.

[tallshorty]

But the thing is it's only like a couple hundred more compared to the 50D.

uhh...not exactly a "couple" hundred dollars more than the 50D:

Henrys:
50D (body): $1299
7D (body): $2099

difference is $800!

[tallshorty]

Don't matter to me if it's crop or not. Better for zoom lenses anyway.

As far as the noise goes, it's supposed to be much much better at higher ISO than 50D.

Definately thinking of getting this over the 5D. I don't need the full frame really. And this is gonna be a good $1,000 - $1,500 less than 5D. Plus I'll probably sell my 40D to cover at least 1/3 or the cost. Sounds like a good deal to me :) Can't wait till it comes out :D

I also have a 40D and I am also very tempted to sell it to buy the 7D...but i calculated it will still cost at least $1000 to upgrade assuming I buy this from the US. That's going to burn a deep hole in my pocket. I might hold off for now.

[PNF]

not worth it if you have a 30/40/50D and upgrade to the 7D.

7D is great and I would love to have one too, but just got my 50D just 6 months ago... the next one I'd get would definitely be a FF (5D MK3 or 4 or something).

For that $1000 to shell out to upgrade the body? I'd just get the 35mm f1.4L that I have been longing for..

[niforpix]

I have a 40D so there is absolutely no point for me to upgrade to a 50D and I'm not gonna spend extra 1500$ to upgrade to a 5D vs 7D. Besides I get my stuff at cost so I save a bunch of cash right there. So it's a pretty sweet deal.

[K-Dub]

From 30D to 7D is a big jump. I'm thinking about it....

[Senna4ever]

I have a 40D so there is absolutely no point for me to upgrade to a 50D and I'm not gonna spend extra 1500$ to upgrade to a 5D vs 7D. Besides I get my stuff at cost so I save a bunch of cash right there. So it's a pretty sweet deal.

*ahem* Shouldn't you be working? :p

[skyxx]

Where ever you guys work I want in on it. :lol

Oh and senna sort of off topic but do you know when the release date of the GF1 is. Approx.

Thanks

[Senna4ever]

There was an opening, but it was filled before I could make a thread. :(

[niforpix]

*ahem* Shouldn't you be working? :p

I was on hold with Greyhound... for 10 minutes... as usual. :rolleyes:

[Bonjour43MA]

cool. Canon finally has something to compete with Nikon's D300... 2 years later.

great camera for you Canon guys but $2100? ouch.

[1exotic]

^ $2100 canadian

It's $1699 for the body in the US, better to order online.. unless you want to pay 400 more.

[tallshorty]

^ $2100 canadian

It's $1699 for the body in the US, better to order online.. unless you want to pay 400 more.

With the current exchange rate (1.08), the true cost if purchased from the US is actually $1836 CDN...so you save like $300 (or more depending on if you declare it ;))

Quick question...if you already have a 40D/50D and you can upgrade to the 7D or 5D for approximately the same price, which would you go for? Considering that the 7D ups the 5D in terms of features other than not being full frame and more noise.

[Meowjin]

Erm, Minolta was the first company to introduce wireless flash with the 7xi body in 1991. It took Nikon 10 years to catch up, and it's still not as user friendly as the old Minolta system.

I would buy this camera if only canon would get rid of their hideous ergonomics.

CLS > all.

[Senna4ever]

CLS?

[Meowjin]

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=nikon+cls&meta=&aq=f&oq=nikon+cl

[Senna4ever]

Yes, but like I wrote, it took Nikon a decade to catch up to Minolta, and it's still not as user friendly. More comprehensive, but not easy to set up quickly.

[Meowjin]

Yeah, but it's about what's better now.

and wtf is the deal with the fm forums users thinking the d700x (the thing thats going to compete with the 5d mkII) is going to cost 4-5 grand?

How in the fuck does that make sense? I think there is alot of butt hurt d3x users who want it to be that price.

[niforpix]

So I just sold my 40D... guess what I'm getting next week... :D

[77civic1200]

new cats!!!!!!!!

[hoking]

who will have these in stock, and when is the release date?

[niforpix]

new cats!!!!!!!!

In HD too! :D :thumbsup:

who will have these in stock, and when is the release date?

They should be in middle next week. Beau will get a handful at first (body only). We'll get more later + kits as well.

[K-Dub]

So I just sold my 40D... guess what I'm getting next week... :D

omg you must let me play with it. :|

[niforpix]

Okeee :)

[Senna4ever]

omg you must let me play with it. :|

:gayfight:

[niforpix]

I'm gonna bitch slap you next time I see you, Jason :p

[tallshorty]

oh man...I so want! But I so can't afford the CAD price :( ..still going to school...I don't suppose any of you with connections could open up your heart and hook me up with a dealer discount? ;)

[hoking]

anyone get their hands on one yet? they are appearing online at vistek and henry's now...

[Senna4ever]

anyone get their hands on one yet? they are appearing online at vistek and henry's now...

Got 10 in stock this morning, but they're all gone now.

[hoking]

Got 10 in stock this morning, but they're all gone now.

wow,... just some questions...

I see the stores in canada selling them as a kit with;
18-135 lens

but in the states they are
28-135 lens

is the release different in canada vs usa?

[Senna4ever]

Must be a typo...28mm on a crop body isn't wide enough. The 7D kits won't be coming in for a while.

[hoking]

Must be a typo...28mm on a crop body isn't wide enough. The 7D kits won't be coming in for a while.

ya, thought so too, but in the pictures on the lens is actually written 28-135, and some pictures are written 18-135... photoshopped?

http://photoshare.shaw.ca/image/6/f/9/133881/245750-0.jpg?rev=0

[77civic1200]

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/809813

18-135mm, dunno whats going on in that pic

[Boostslut]

The AF on this camera really makes it interesting for me since i like to do alot of bird photography and nature. I'm assuming this would be a good upgrade from a 40D in that regard? How much better is the AF on a 1D body than the 7D? I was thinking the 7D, a 1.4X, and a 500mm F4IS would be a pretty good birding/nature combo. Would love to get a 1D MKIII tho. Input?

[Senna4ever]

So I used a 7D today after work. It is a bit noisier than the 5DmkII, but the banding of the noise has been eliminated. AF seems to be accurate (we put a 24mm f1.4 on it), but probably doesn't come close to a 1Ds mkIII in speed. Metering seems to be good, too. I don't think you'd need to put a 1.4x extender if you're using a 500mm f4.

[Bonjour43MA]

So I used a 7D today after work. It is a bit noisier than the 5DmkII, but the banding of the noise has been eliminated. AF seems to be accurate (we put a 24mm f1.4 on it), but probably doesn't come close to a 1Ds mkIII in speed. Metering seems to be good, too. I don't think you'd need to put a 1.4x extender if you're using a 500mm f4.

How does the AF compare to the Nikon D300s? I would assume that the Nikon should still be better since it has the D3/D3x/D700's AF module in there.

[Senna4ever]

How does the AF compare to the Nikon D300s? I would assume that the Nikon should still be better since it has the D3/D3x/D700's AF module in there.

I assume the AF is not as good as the Nikons, but it's pretty quick. I am testing it out tonight, and I just got back from taking some night shots with the 7D, so I'll try to post some pics later. I'm going to head out again for some shots. The noise is much nicer looking than the 5DmkII - much easier to get rid of with noise reduction. Dare I say Nikon-like?

[Mashimaro]

I was at Broadway Camera yesterday (Broadway location) and they have the 7D body in stock. I played with it briefly and it does feel a tiny bit heavier than my 50D.

Very nice camera though..but the body is selling for $2100 CAD before taxes....ouch!

[hoking]

$1699usd x exchange rate south of the border
$2099cdn + 12% tax in Canada

easily save $400-$500 in the states....

dilemma,... hmm

ps: as previously mentioned,.. the 28-135 is showing up on all US websites, but the 18-135 is showing up on all canadian websites... reason behind this?

[Mashimaro]

$1699usd x exchange rate south of the border
$2099cdn + 12% tax in Canada

easily save $400-$500 in the states....

dilemma,... hmm

ps: as previously mentioned,.. the 28-135 is showing up on all US websites, but the 18-135 is showing up on all canadian websites... reason behind this?

yup, definately cheaper, and you don't get charged duty for camera stuff either. however, i would be worried about a warranty...just incase.

still waiting to see reviews on the 18-135. sounds like it could be a great walk around range

[J____]

yup, definately cheaper, and you don't get charged duty for camera stuff either. however, i would be worried about a warranty...just incase.

still waiting to see reviews on the 18-135. sounds like it could be a great walk around range

really?? there's not duty on cam stuff? Warranty works the same, cuz you ship it to Canon canada, they cover stuff bought in the US

[hoking]

^^^
no duties for photography equipment, but you still need to pay gst/pst ONLY if you declare at the border :)

[1exotic]

I bought a lens in the US before (canon 17-85mm) cost me 400 in total to pay some border tax... at that time it was selling for $700 canadian with taxes.

IMO makes a lot of sence to buy the camera in the US

[niforpix]

I bought a lens in the US before (canon 17-85mm) cost me 400 in total to pay some border tax... at that time it was selling for $700 canadian with taxes.

IMO makes a lot of sence to buy the camera in the US

^^ "sense" :p

[Senna4ever]

7D Jpeg straight from the camera, M size, 24mm f1.4L II USM. I forgot to install the RAW converter, so the Jpegs are all I have. :(

100 ISO, full frame & 100% crop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/IMG_0027.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/IMG_0027_crop.jpg

800 ISO full frame & 100% crop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/800_IMG_0028.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/800_IMG_0028_crop.jpg

3200 ISO full frame & 100% crop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/3200_IMG_0026.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/3200_IMG_0026_crop.jpg

6400 ISO full frame & 100% crop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/6400_IMG_0025.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Forum%20crap/6400_IMG_0025_crop.jpg

[1exotic]

the noise on the 7D at ISO 6400 is better than my XTI at ISO 800
if the shop has to many 7D's and you're giving them away let me know :-))

[skyxx]

http://vimeo.com/6853452

Shot with 7D and 5D MKII. (posted in the off topic forum) Thought it was related. :)

Specs on how it was shot here:
http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/

[niforpix]

^^ Cool!

[tallshorty]

http://vimeo.com/6853452

Shot with 7D and 5D MKII. (posted in the off topic forum) Thought it was related. :)

Specs on how it was shot here:
http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/

I'm SO getting this camera on my next trip to portland! :thumbsup:

[niforpix]

I'm SO getting this camera on my next trip to portland! :thumbsup:

Got mine today! :D :thumbsup: I've been drooling all night :haha:

Make sure to put your name on a waiting list. Our store only got 10 last week and we're not getting any more till 1st of November :(

[tallshorty]

Got mine today! :D :thumbsup: I've been drooling all night :haha:

Make sure to put your name on a waiting list. Our store only got 10 last week and we're not getting any more till 1st of November :(

aww man...i really wish i had connections.

[Senna4ever]

Got mine today! :D :thumbsup: I've been drooling all night :haha:

Make sure to put your name on a waiting list. Our store only got 10 last week and we're not getting any more till 1st of November :(
Yeah, so??? I'm getting my decked out 17" Macbook Pro and possibly a Profoto studio lighting kit in a few days....so there! :p

[niforpix]

^^ I'll trade you your studio kit for my Canon Speedlite Transmitter :D

[Senna4ever]

I may buy it from you if I get the 5D mkII!

[niforpix]

Buy it! Buy it now! Then you can buy rest of your Canon gear to go with it :p

[J____]

http://vimeo.com/6853452
Specs on how it was shot here:
http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/



wtf D300s can shoot video?? im using 2 of them and dont know of this feature???

[Senna4ever]

^^^were you living in a cave the past month??? :lol

[niforpix]

wtf D300s can shoot video?? im using 2 of them and dont know of this feature???

Are you sure photography is the right field for you? :p

[J____]

ah D300 ESSSSSS. i didnt even knw that camera existed haha. I've got 2 D300's.

holy shit, im goin to get this setup for my 5dmk2! this is wicked! Also a steady cam arm would score a premium as well :D

http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/category/audio/

[skyxx]

^ I know, I saw that rig. I wanted it! lol
But I want a rig like that for my HDR-HC1. Would be sweet!

[J____]

group buy?

[tallshorty]

omg omg...just picked up the Canon 7D!!!!!!! paid $1849 + tax for it

[niforpix]

omg omg...just picked up the Canon 7D!!!!!!! paid $1849 + tax for it

Nice! Was it on sale?

I went with few guys to Reifel today and took my 7D along with a Canon 500mm F4 L IS :D

I'll post pics later. :thumbsup:

[tallshorty]

Nice! Was it on sale?

I went with few guys to Reifel today and took my 7D along with a Canon 500mm F4 L IS :D

I'll post pics later. :thumbsup:

I got mine at Futureshop. They gave me 12% off on it even though it wasn't on sale because all the other SLRs were on sale.

I know I shouldn't have done this, but I checked for hot pixels on the sensor and found one red pixel that shows up even at 1/10 sec at ISO 1250. Do you have any (or anyone else)?

Just want a general idea if this is within normal limits. My 40D had 4 hot pixels but they didn't show up until shutter speed was >2 sec.

Should I exchange it or send it to Canon?

[Boostslut]

Sweet can't wait to see your pics Niforpix!

[Bonjour43MA]

i'm interested in the video capability of this camera... shoot at 720p/60fps and edit in 24fps timeline and you get some pretty sweet slow-motion videos....

[Senna4ever]

^^^ Shit! I forgot to take 60fps video yesterday. dammit. I'll try some today, but I only have the 500mm today.

[tallshorty]

what video editing software do you guys recommend?

[Senna4ever]

If you have a Mac, iMovie works fine for amateur use. Final Cut Pro for more high end stuff.

[niforpix]

I tried running the 1080p video I took yesterday on my laptop... It's choppy as hell lol Apparently 2GHz CPU and 4gigs for ram is not enough (I think my vid card is 128 meg)... Sighs...

I'll be editing my photos today :)

[Senna4ever]

I'm really amazed at the focus tracking of the 7D, it may be as good or better than the 1Ds mkIII. The exposure system is very accurate, it wasn't fooled by a bird in flight that was backlit, a situation that would 100% fool the 1Ds mkIII, and many other cameras.

[K-Dub]

I tried running the 1080p video I took yesterday on my laptop... It's choppy as hell lol Apparently 2GHz CPU and 4gigs for ram is not enough (I think my vid card is 128 meg)... Sighs...

I'll be editing my photos today :)
I'll have to get a new computer before I get this camera then, haha. 2nd gen MBP C2D 2.3GHZ + 3G ram......

oh well, within three years is my goal =)

[Senna4ever]

I'll have to get a new computer before I get this camera then, haha. 2nd gen MBP C2D 2.3GHZ + 3G ram......

oh well, within three years is my goal =)
2.3Ghz may run 1080p depending on configuration. 2.2Ghz machines run 1080p with slight jerkiness. I just bought a 3.06Ghz 17" Macbook Pro, so we'll see how it runs.:)

[niforpix]

Posted few pics in here:

http://www.revscene.net/forums/bird-photography-t365840p11.html

[tallshorty]

I tried running the 1080p video I took yesterday on my laptop... It's choppy as hell lol Apparently 2GHz CPU and 4gigs for ram is not enough (I think my vid card is 128 meg)... Sighs...

I'll be editing my photos today :)

I have a 2.54 GHz CD2 T9400 CPU and the Intel X4500MHD graphics card. Runs 1080p just fine. You need to make sure its the graphics card pulling the weight and not the CPU.

[tallshorty]

Hey guys, so does anyone else with a 7D have a hot pixel?

[Senna4ever]

Nope. Hot pixel on the image or display?

[niforpix]

Haven't seen any hot pixels on mine.

[1exotic]

Posted few pics in here:

http://www.revscene.net/forums/bird-photography-t365840p11.html

really smooth and sharp!
thanks for sharing.

[niforpix]

^^ Thank you sir!

[Senna4ever]

Goin' back to Reifel today. :)

[niforpix]

^^ damn it! I got family stuff to do again *sigh*

[Senna4ever]

^^ damn it! I got family stuff to do again *sigh*

Dude, you need to get your priorities straight. Family should always come last. :p

[niforpix]

^^ I think you're right :p

[Mashimaro]

damn, thanks for sharing the pics!

i'm hating Canon for announcing the 7D 2 months after i bought my 50D :(

it's like comparing chocolate to shit now :cry:

[Senna4ever]

it's like comparing chocolate to shit now :cry:
At least they're the same colour. O_O

[niforpix]

At least they're the same colour. O_O

lol

[Senna4ever]

OOoooooohhhhh.....my new 17" Macbook Pro plays the 7D 1080p video beautifully. I just wish the Mac OS didn't suck shit so much.

[niforpix]

Answer your god damn phone!
PS. Bring the laptop tomorrow and show me.

[Senna4ever]

Sorry, left my phone at work. :(

[niforpix]

Whaaaaaat? :p

[tallshorty]

went to Futureshop today to exchange my 7D due to 6 persistant hot pixels. The have a new promo this weekend where you get a $100 GC with purchase of a 7D. So i mentioned I just got mine last week and they gave it to me :)

Total now for the 7D is $1749 plus taxes :) (i think i probably got the best deal in Canada...except probably for you guys who work at a camera store :P)

I also exchanged it with a 7D with less hot sensor pixels. With no in body noise reduction, I get 4 hot pixels (30" ISO 6400), but 0 hot pixels when I turn on noise reduction. My previous one had 1 hot pixels even at 1/40" ISO 1250 and noise reduction on.

But the one I exchanged to already had >1500 shots :( and the battery/charger/manual bags were opened. Likely a return although the sales rep claims it never left the store. Oh well. I'm satisified with this one.

[Boostslut]

Thats a good deal tallshorty! Hope this one works out for you!

Alright here is my dilemma. I want a good birding camera. What would you do? Spend more money on a 1d mk3 or a bit less and get a 7d. I really like the weather sealing on the 1d, and the auto focus and fps is awesome! Which one would you take? 1d mk3 or 7d for a birding camera? A 500mm F4L would be attached to the camera body. Of which i don't have yet but soon.

[niforpix]

I would definately go with the 7D (and that's not just because I have one). It costs less, does 8fps (only 2fps less than 1D MKIII), plus it's 18MP vs 10PM. You can crop the pics even more if needed. And I'd put the $$ difference towards the new lens.

[tallshorty]

Thats a good deal tallshorty! Hope this one works out for you!

Alright here is my dilemma. I want a good birding camera. What would you do? Spend more money on a 1d mk3 or a bit less and get a 7d. I really like the weather sealing on the 1d, and the auto focus and fps is awesome! Which one would you take? 1d mk3 or 7d for a birding camera? A 500mm F4L would be attached to the camera body. Of which i don't have yet but soon.

I also agree with 7D

Pros of 7D
-Also have weather sealing
-1.6x crop turns 500mm into a 800mm!
-8fps close enough to 10fps
-100% viewfinder..composing is more satisfying
-18 MP vs 10MP...can crop more, requiring less zoom
-All this for CHEAPER!

[Senna4ever]

The current 1D models are getting a bit long in the tooth. 7D for sure.

[Boostslut]

Sweet. How is the weather proofing on the 7d when mated with a sealed lens?

Any hint's on the next 1D for us Senna? :)

[J____]

u'll need a quadcore and decent vid card to play those movies smoothly outta the 7d and 5dmk2. Plays smoothly on macbook pro or even the normal macbook. gdamn pc.... but i still wont convert! hahahaha

[Senna4ever]

Sweet. How is the weather proofing on the 7d when mated with a sealed lens?

Any hint's on the next 1D for us Senna? :)
Not quite sure how good the weather proofing is on the 7D...the Canon rep didn't pour a bottle of water on it like they do with the pro bodies and lenses.

Let's just say if you want a 1D mkIV, keep saving your pennies until spring. ;)

[skyxx]

^ Tomorrow :D!!!!!

http://vimeo.com/7152063

[tallshorty]

u'll need a quadcore and decent vid card to play those movies smoothly outta the 7d and 5dmk2. Plays smoothly on macbook pro or even the normal macbook. gdamn pc.... but i still wont convert! hahahaha

You don't need a quadcore to play 1080p. I have a Lenovo X200 laptop without a dedicated video card and it plays fine.

[niforpix]

^^ how do I make mine play it "fine"?

[Senna4ever]

You don't need a quadcore to play 1080p. I have a Lenovo X200 laptop without a dedicated video card and it plays fine.

Yes, but the X200 doesn't play 1080p video at full resolution, as the screen is only 1280x800.

[niforpix]

Yes, but the X200 doesn't play 1080p video at full resolution, as the screen is only 1280x800.

How do I make run smoothly then? I have a GeForce 9200m GS with 256MB dedicated video memory and it's still choppy. Plus I got 4 gigs of ram and 2gb CPU :confused:

[Senna4ever]

I dunno...the X200 is known for its speed though. 2 Ghz may not be fast enough to run 1080p, while the X200's 2.4Ghz may be just enough.

[niforpix]

FML...

[Mananetwork]

Guess what!

http://gizmodo.com/5385717/canon-5d-mark-ii-firmware-update-unlocks-1080p-video-at-24fps

Everybody complaining in the 1D Mark IV comment thread that there won't be any more video firmware updates for the 5D Mark II is kinda wrong: Canon is enabling the 24fps and 25fps 1080p video recording that's found on the 7D and 1D Mark IV, bringing it about up to par. Update's due sometime next year, though no firmware switcheroo's gonna deliver the 1DMkIV's low-light sensitivity. [Planet 5D via Canon Rumors]

[Bonjour43MA]

Tomaz do you have a 5DMII now?

[Senna4ever]

He's had one for quite some time now.

[Mananetwork]

Tomaz do you have a 5DMII now?

Since April

[gars]

hey, has anyone used the 15-85mm that the new 7D is released with? i've been tryin to find some reviews of it online. thinkin of upgrading to it. there's a website that's splitting the 7D kits here, and selling them for a bit cheaper... around £450...

i have a Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 right now, but i'm tryin to think whether or not the extra reach and the IS would be worth it.... can't afford the bloody 18-55 f2.8. might look into the new tamron EF-S mount with VC tho.

[niforpix]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/photo-lab-daily-t399977p209.html

Scroll to the part where I posted 3 pics of my cats. They were taken with the 15-85mm IS lens. That lens is freakin' sharp as hell. Definately worth the money. Don't bother with the 17-55 f2.8.

[tallshorty]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/photo-lab-daily-t399977p209.html

Scroll to the part where I posted 3 pics of my cats. They were taken with the 15-85mm IS lens. That lens is freakin' sharp as hell. Definately worth the money. Don't bother with the 17-55 f2.8.

Please don't insult the 17-55 IS ;) I have this lens and you would enjoy the F2.8 in low light :thumbsup: and it is sharper than the 15-85

[tallshorty]

Yes, but the X200 doesn't play 1080p video at full resolution, as the screen is only 1280x800.

I have mine hooked up to a Dell 30" ultrasharp monitor via displayport (through ultrabase). So yea...it runs 1080P with no problems.

[tallshorty]

How do I make run smoothly then? I have a GeForce 9200m GS with 256MB dedicated video memory and it's still choppy. Plus I got 4 gigs of ram and 2gb CPU :confused:

I use a program call Zoom Player. Plays 1080p with no problems. In fact, Quicktime works fine too. It might be the codecs that you have installed.

[niforpix]

Please don't insult the 17-55 IS ;) I have this lens and you would enjoy the F2.8 in low light :thumbsup: and it is sharper than the 15-85

Not really insulting it. I know it's a great lens. But it's also $200 bucks more. So if one doesn't care to have a f2.8 vs f3.5 and wants that extra reach, than 15-85 is the way to go :)

[Senna4ever]

Please don't insult the 17-55 IS ;) I have this lens and you would enjoy the F2.8 in low light :thumbsup: and it is sharper than the 15-85
No, it isn't. The Canon 17-55 isn't bad, but the 15-85 is sharper overall, especially in the corners. The one area where Canon is lacking compared to Nikon is the wide to tele zoom lenses.

[MikesJo]

u'll need a quadcore and decent vid card to play those movies smoothly outta the 7d and 5dmk2. Plays smoothly on macbook pro or even the normal macbook. gdamn pc.... but i still wont convert! hahahaha

apple macbook pro ftw! My 2007 mbp C2D can still keep up with those 1080p vids :). Can't say the same for friends who have PC laptops from that year, lol.

[Senna4ever]

apple macbook pro ftw! My 2007 mbp C2D can still keep up with those 1080p vids :). Can't say the same for friends who have PC laptops from that year, lol.
That's because most PC laptops don't have the specs the MBP have/had. I just bought a 17" 3.06Ghz MBP and it just flies through 5D mkII RAW files in Lightroom, not to mention 130MB 65MP Phase One TIFF's. It's amazing what this thing can do. :)

[niforpix]

No, it isn't. The Canon 17-55 isn't bad, but the 15-85 is sharper overall, especially in the corners. The one area where Canon is lacking compared to Nikon is the wide to tele zoom lenses.

Oh sh*t... I didn't know that since I've never used the 17-55. I'm glad I bought my 15-85 then. I love it :D
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[roastpuff]

No, it isn't. The Canon 17-55 isn't bad, but the 15-85 is sharper overall, especially in the corners. The one area where Canon is lacking compared to Nikon is the wide to tele zoom lenses.

The 17-55 is also f2.8 constant, while the 15-85 is 3.5-5.6 through it's range.

85mm and f5.6 does not make for good low-light performance. I would rather have 55mm and f2.8 and crop.

[niforpix]

^^ I guess it all depends what you use it for. I find I don't really shoot at 85mm much so that wouldn't matter for me. I am most between 15 and 50mm, but it's good to have that extra reach.

[tallshorty]

No, it isn't. The Canon 17-55 isn't bad, but the 15-85 is sharper overall, especially in the corners. The one area where Canon is lacking compared to Nikon is the wide to tele zoom lenses.
I'm don't know what your source is but that is not true according to these reviews:
15-85: http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/465-canon_1585_3556is?start=1
17-55: http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/425-canon_1755_28is_50d?start=1

The 17-55 is consistently sharper (at center and corners) than the 15-85 looking at the MTF charts even at F2.8 (except at 50mm). But when stopped down to F4, it is sharper at all focal lengths from 17-55

[MikesJo]

Oh it's an EF-S, shitty.

[Senna4ever]

I'm don't know what your source is but that is not true according to these reviews:
15-85: http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/465-canon_1585_3556is?start=1
17-55: http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/425-canon_1755_28is_50d?start=1

The 17-55 is consistently sharper (at center and corners) than the 15-85 looking at the MTF charts even at F2.8 (except at 50mm). But when stopped down to F4, it is sharper at all focal lengths from 17-55
My source is my first hand experience, and from the examples I've seen, The 15-85 is sharper overall, but the 17-55 does have the advantage of a fast, constant aperture. The copy of the 17-55 I tried was shit compared to the copy of the 15-85 we have, and definitely worse (not by much) than the Nikon 17-55 f2.8. Would I use the 15-85 professionally? No, in that case I would use the 17-55 for sure, but the 15-85 is a great walk around lens.

[Senna4ever]

Oh it's an EF-S, shitty.

Yup, both 17-55 & 15-85 are EF-S. For FF, the 24-70L & 24-105L are the equivalent lenses.

[Mananetwork]

Yup, both 17-55 & 15-85 are EF-S. For FF, the 24-70L & 24-105L are the equivalent lenses.

24 is not wide enough!

[niforpix]

24 is not wide enough!

For FF it is.

[Mananetwork]

For FF it is.

No way!
I used a 17-40 on a 20D for the longest time, and wasn't until I switched to a FF where it really shined!!

24 is not wide at all!

[niforpix]

^^ stop yelling already!!!! lol
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[Bonjour43MA]

24mm on FF is okay... not that wide. I think you need to go down to 20mm or less to REALLY feel the difference.

Can someone lend me a Nikon 14-24/2.8? heh heh. Now THAT'S wide, on FF.

[MikesJo]

I have to agree with Tom here. 17mm on my 20D was ok, but 17mm on my 5D, awesome :).

[Senna4ever]

Forgot about the 17-40....and that is is FF. I've used the 16-35 f2.8 on a 5DmkII...it took a little while to get used to it.

[gars]

does anybody ever use the sigma 12-24mm? i'd imagine to be crazy wide on a FF

[niforpix]

Oh it's an EF-S, shitty.

Your statement makes no sense.

Oh, by the way, found out today that the 5D MKII and 7D won't rear courtain sync with strobe lights and using Pocket Wizards Plus II. I was f*cking pissed during the shoot in class today...

Is there a way to get around this?

[Senna4ever]

does anybody ever use the sigma 12-24mm? i'd imagine to be crazy wide on a FF

It's not very sharp. Mananetwork used to have one. The Nikon 14-24 is the one to have if you can afford it, and you have an EOS to F mount adaptor with a chip.

[tallshorty]

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[MikesJo]

Your statement makes no sense.

Oh, by the way, found out today that the 5D MKII and 7D won't rear courtain sync with strobe lights and using Pocket Wizards Plus II. I was f*cking pissed during the shoot in class today...

Is there a way to get around this?

Makes no sense? The whole EF-S thing is dumb. Why not just make it an EF lens so it's compliant across the range of cameras. If they want to keep it "affordable" which the EF-S range is suppose to cater to, then just make it non-L which it is already.

Why does my comment make no sense?

[Mananetwork]

does anybody ever use the sigma 12-24mm? i'd imagine to be crazy wide on a FF

Now that's wide. I sold the lens because it wasn't very sharp at FF. You have to stop that thing to F11 to get corners to finally sharpen up

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/270816645_5bc3d07e2f_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/278434708_f0d5d0ecdf_o.jpg

[Senna4ever]

Haha...that's the day we went to Lynn Canyon and err...someone who shall remain nameless hit his 50mm f1.8 against a table and it broke into a million pieces. :D

[77civic1200]

Ha ha, I remember that, good times =)

[niforpix]

Makes no sense? The whole EF-S thing is dumb. Why not just make it an EF lens so it's compliant across the range of cameras. If they want to keep it "affordable" which the EF-S range is suppose to cater to, then just make it non-L which it is already.

Why does my comment make no sense?

Now that you explained it, it makes sense and I agree with you.

[MikesJo]

coolios

[niforpix]

:)

[Mananetwork]

^NO, I want fight to the death. No agreeing on Revscene

[ddr]

how much better is the noise compared to my t1i?
how about video? it still has no continuous af for video right?

i'm just considering the thousand dollars i'll be investing in this body (after i sell my t1i), or in a tokina 11-16. the body upgrade seems to be an overall upgrade when paired with my cheaper lenses (17-50, 50, 55-250)

[niforpix]

^NO, I want fight to the death. No agreeing on Revscene

I agree.

[tallshorty]

This is what I wanted to post yesterday:

http://www.vimeo.com/7508466

My very first attempt at cinematography. I'm loving the Canon 7D. I never realized how much I enjoy videography until now :). The editing took me a good 12 hrs though! and that is not including trying to figure what program to use and how to edit the footages (probably another 12 hrs). Video is a lot more time consuming than photos.

Stats:
Recorded with Canon 7D and built-in mic (really crappy audio) and Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS. Video was edited on Pinnacle Studio 14 HD directly, with no conversions or proxies necessary. This program is able to edit .mov footages with no problems unlike Vegas or Premiere Pro.

Can anyone recommend a decent external microphone that won't break my wallet?and where can I get one? (preferably in Vancouver). I read that the Rode Stereo Videomic is pretty good but it costs $250 US.

[Senna4ever]

how much better is the noise compared to my t1i?
how about video? it still has no continuous af for video right?

i'm just considering the thousand dollars i'll be investing in this body (after i sell my t1i), or in a tokina 11-16. the body upgrade seems to be an overall upgrade when paired with my cheaper lenses (17-50, 50, 55-250)'
If the T1i is anything like the 50D, then the 7D will be an improvement at ISO 800+, but I'm not sure if it's worth $1000. Personally, I'd get the Tokina.

[Senna4ever]

This is what I wanted to post yesterday:

http://www.vimeo.com/7508466

My very first attempt at cinematography. I'm loving the Canon 7D. I never realized how much I enjoy videography until now :). The editing took me a good 12 hrs though! and that is not including trying to figure what program to use and how to edit the footages (probably another 12 hrs). Video is a lot more time consuming than photos.

Stats:
Recorded with Canon 7D and built-in mic (really crappy audio) and Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS. Video was edited on Pinnacle Studio 14 HD directly, with no conversions or proxies necessary. This program is able to edit .mov footages with no problems unlike Vegas or Premiere Pro.

Can anyone recommend a decent external microphone that won't break my wallet?and where can I get one? (preferably in Vancouver). I read that the Rode Stereo Videomic is pretty good but it costs $250 US.
Check out Provision (http://www.provisionvideo.com) @ 143 West 3rd Avenue, 604.876.0940. They have a decent Sennheiser mic for about $200, and I think a RODE Stereo Video Mic for $250. If you can, get the RODE mic with the suspension system, as it will make a huge difference in reducing noise. Also get a Dead Kitten/Dead Cat for the mic to reduce wind noise if you're going to be outside.

[tallshorty]

Check out Provision (http://www.provisionvideo.com) @ 143 West 3rd Avenue, 604.876.0940. They have a decent Sennheiser mic for about $200, and I think a RODE Stereo Video Mic for $250. If you can, get the RODE mic with the suspension system, as it will make a huge difference in reducing noise. Also get a Dead Kitten/Dead Cat for the mic to reduce wind noise if you're going to be outside.

Thanks for the tip. If I can get the Rode Stereo Videomic for $250CDN, I just might get that. It's suppose to come with a dead kitten.

Any personal experience with this microphone on the 5Dii or 7d?

[Senna4ever]

I just checked Vistek, and they're selling the RODE mic I saw at Provision for $439, so I guess I was wrong. It must be around that price. No experience using it - I went to Provision to inquire about the various mics they have that can be mounted on a DSLR and they recommended me that one and a few others.

http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoMicrophones/226730/rode-microphones-stereo-video-microphone.aspx

The other one they showed me:
http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoMicrophones/235994/sennheiser-mke400-shoe-mount-shotgun-mic-mini-pin-stereo.aspx

[tallshorty]

I just checked Vistek, and they're selling the RODE mic I saw at Provision for $439, so I guess I was wrong. It must be around that price. No experience using it - I went to Provision to inquire about the various mics they have that can be mounted on a DSLR and they recommended me that one and a few others.

http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoMicrophones/226730/rode-microphones-stereo-video-microphone.aspx

The other one they showed me:
http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoMicrophones/235994/sennheiser-mke400-shoe-mount-shotgun-mic-mini-pin-stereo.aspx

I've read reviews about these two on the net. The rode is better. But at $439, it is about 2x more than the US price after taxes! The Sennheiser is mono only and causes a lot of noise on the 5Dii. I'll call Provision tomorrow. Hopefully you saw correctly.

[Senna4ever]

Maybe rent one for the weekend to see if you like it? Don't read too much into internet reviews...get the one that is right for you. It's pretty cheap, about $25/day, and your rental costs can go towards a purchase, I think. The guys at Provision are really nice people, and they know their stuff.

[ddr]

'
If the T1i is anything like the 50D, then the 7D will be an improvement at ISO 800+, but I'm not sure if it's worth $1000. Personally, I'd get the Tokina.

ok thnx. maybe i'll wait till the 7D prices come down, but then the t1i price will come down lol

[Senna4ever]

A co-worker has written a mind-numbingly thorough review of the 7D & 15-85mm.

http://www.beauphoto.com/frames/digital/news/eos7d.html#top

[MikesJo]

Tallshorty, great first video! Makes me really want a 5dmk2 now ><. I wanna try video, lol.

[MikesJo]

^NO, I want fight to the death. No agreeing on Revscene

I don't like fights =\.

[tallshorty]

I just checked Vistek, and they're selling the RODE mic I saw at Provision for $439, so I guess I was wrong. It must be around that price. No experience using it - I went to Provision to inquire about the various mics they have that can be mounted on a DSLR and they recommended me that one and a few others.

http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoMicrophones/226730/rode-microphones-stereo-video-microphone.aspx

The other one they showed me:
http://www.vistek.ca/store/ProVideoMicrophones/235994/sennheiser-mke400-shoe-mount-shotgun-mic-mini-pin-stereo.aspx

I called provideovision and got some weird answers. First guy tells me it's 289, called again later and another guy tells me its 399??

[tallshorty]

I've done a lot of research this week on audio and microphones (more than a healthy amount) and I have narrowed down the choices to the following:
1) Rode (mono) videomic - good for dialogue and drowning out ambience
2) Rod stereo videomic - good for music, live performance, ambience sounds
3) Zoom H4N field recorder (not a microphone) - records stereo and can be placed next to the sound source to record audio separately and then syncing with video in post-edit. Also read that can attach a cord from the line-out to the mic input on the camera and get a direct recording so negating the need to sync the audio.

I think 3) is the best choice as you get the best of both worlds: place the recorder next to the sound source for dialogue and limiting ambience or plug it to the camera to record live performances, etc...

In terms of cost, 3) is the most expensive, then 2), then 1)....the Zoom H4N is about $400 CDN or $300 US

[J____]

saw this deal on redflags for retail employees. good price

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/retail-employees-amazing-canon-epp-deal-canon-7d-body-1599-a-811833/

[tallshorty]

$1599?! Damn I am so jealous!

saw this deal on redflags for retail employees. good price

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/retail-employees-amazing-canon-epp-deal-canon-7d-body-1599-a-811833/
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[ddr]

woah

this is probably a new program? a frnd's frnd that works at LD says he can get decent discounts on nikon stuff but not canon; a while a go

[Senna4ever]

saw this deal on redflags for retail employees. good price

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/retail-employees-amazing-canon-epp-deal-canon-7d-body-1599-a-811833/
Where's this guy getting his figures from?


........it's actually lower. :shhh: