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Gr.12 math text book word problem.. i not knowing
Hondaracer
09-01-2009, 07:26 PM
k, ive been looking over this for the past 10 minutes and either ive smoked myself retarded or there is no way to determine the final outcome, the question is as follows:
"At Lunch time four friends, Anna, Pat, Petra, and Bonnie, are each eating a different type of fruit. The Fruits are an apple, a pear, a peach, and a banana. None of the girls is eating a type of fruit that begins with the same initial as her name, If Anna doesnt like pears, who is eating what?"
ive got it down to 2 certainties, but i dont see how you determine which girl is eating what fruit with the remaining 2?
turbomelon
09-01-2009, 07:32 PM
could be one of those two cases type of answers? Or does it specify there's only one solution
Cuz obviously, like you said, either its
Case 1
Anna- Peach
Pat- Banana
Petra- Apple
Bonnie- Pear
or
Case 2
Anna- Peach
Pat- Apple
Petra- Banana
Bonnie- Pear
impactX
09-01-2009, 07:32 PM
Anna - Peach
Bonnie - Pear
Pat - Apple
Petra (initial = PA? lol) - Banana
Sid Vicious
09-01-2009, 07:37 PM
Anna - Peach
Pat Apple/banana
Petra -Banana/apple
Bonnie Pear
Pat and Petra are interchangable I think. but anna and bonnie are correct always
Hondaracer
09-01-2009, 07:48 PM
yea, in the back of the book there is only one definitive answer, but the 2 have to be interchangeable there isnt enough info otherwise correct?
:/
Lomac
09-01-2009, 08:06 PM
Just because Anna doesn't like pears it doesn't mean she isn't eating it. ;)
penner2k
09-01-2009, 08:09 PM
Yah there are 2 answers.. lol
Someone didnt think that one through..
penner2k
09-01-2009, 08:12 PM
This would be a better question
"At Lunch time four friends, Anna, Pat, Petra, and Bonnie, are each eating a different type of fruit. The Fruits are an apple, a pear, a peach, and a banana. None of the girls is eating a type of fruit that begins with the same initial as her name. Petra is pregnant and doesn't know who the father is. If Anna doesnt like pears, who is eating what?"
InvisibleSoul
09-01-2009, 11:46 PM
You get the following from what is written:
Anna can't eat apple.
Bonnie can't eat banana.
Pat can't eat pear or peach.
Petra can't eat pear or peach.
Anna can't eat pear.
From that, you can deduce the following:
Anna can eat banana or peach.
Bonnie can eat apple, pear, or peach.
Pat can eat apple or banana.
Petra can eat apple or banana.
First conclusion:
Bonnie is the only person that can eat pear.
Left with:
Anna can eat banana or peach.
Pat can eat apple or banana.
Petra can eat apple or banana.
Second conclusion:
Anna is the only person that can eat peach.
Left with:
Pat can eat apple or banana.
Petra can eat apple or banana.
Yeah, you're right. I can't see how you can determine between Pat and Petra who is eating the apple and who is eating the banana.
skyxx
09-01-2009, 11:56 PM
^ The fuck....:(
yea, in the back of the book there is only one definitive answer, but the 2 have to be interchangeable there isnt enough info otherwise correct?
:/
if those are all the constraints, then there's 2 answers as discussed. The book wants to save ink.
El Bastardo
09-02-2009, 01:54 AM
Math problem
Dude. You're 43. If you haven't gotten your GED by now its just not going to happen. Give it up.
PiuYi
09-02-2009, 01:57 AM
i hate misprints in math textbooks, they fck you over so bad
MWR34
09-02-2009, 01:59 AM
isn't it obvious?
"At Lunch time four friends, Anna, Pat, Petra, and Bonnie, are each eating a different type of fruit. The Fruits are an apple, a pear, a peach, and a banana. None of the girls is eating a type of fruit that begins with the same initial as her name, If Anna doesnt like pears, who is eating what?"
Anna Eats Banana
Petra Eats Apple
Bonnie Eats Peach
Pat Eats Pear
These names listed above are 4 friends. but 3 are fucking Girls. Pat is a fuckin Guy. so the rules of who eats what doesnt apply to Pat the guy.
I win, I hope.. 3am post FTW?...........thank me if Im right.
Chopstick
09-02-2009, 03:28 AM
ow my jello hurts (O__o)
i do know one thing... u are not asian lol
Orion
09-02-2009, 09:06 AM
most people has already mentioned it but I'll dissect it down
Anna (2 Choices - Peach or Banana)
Pat (2 Choices - Banana or Apple)
Petra (2 Choices - Banana or Apple)
Bonnie (3 Choices - Peach, Apple or Pear)
Since Bonnie has the most choices you solve for the other three first. There's actually a formula for doing but its simple. Just look at it (its like playing Sudoku). Pet and Petra only has two choices each that means those two fruits must belong to them. That eliminates the banana from Anna which means she's eat Peach that leaves only a Pear for Bonnie so your answer is simply:
Anna - Peach
Pat - Banana or Apple
Petra - Banana or Apple
Bonnie - Pear
Pat and Petra is the inter exchangeable ones.
hotjoint
09-02-2009, 09:17 AM
i agree
shenmecar
09-02-2009, 10:11 AM
what is this? Gr 12 Math Essentials?
E=mc˛
09-02-2009, 10:22 AM
isn't it obvious?
"At Lunch time four friends, Anna, Pat, Petra, and Bonnie, are each eating a different type of fruit. The Fruits are an apple, a pear, a peach, and a banana. None of the girls is eating a type of fruit that begins with the same initial as her name, If Anna doesnt like pears, who is eating what?"
Anna Eats Banana
Petra Eats Apple
Bonnie Eats Peach
Pat Eats Pear
These names listed above are 4 friends. but 3 are fucking Girls. Pat is a fuckin Guy. so the rules of who eats what doesnt apply to Pat the guy.
I win, I hope.. 3am post FTW?...........thank me if Im right.
damn that sounds about right. But Pat can also be a girl's name. Short for Patricia.
ie. Pat Benatar
but your reasoning makes sense if Pat is indeed a dude
pandalove
09-02-2009, 11:16 AM
we need some of BNR34's graphs to figure this one out
skyxx
09-02-2009, 11:27 AM
Here's another skill testing question that will need BNR34's graphs.
How many people does it take to solve one simple grade 12 math question?
Pat is putting his banana in Anna's peach while the other two eat a pear and apple and watch.
Here's another skill testing question that will need BNR34's graphs.
+1
fobulaus
09-02-2009, 01:46 PM
isn't it obvious?
"At Lunch time four friends, Anna, Pat, Petra, and Bonnie, are each eating a different type of fruit. The Fruits are an apple, a pear, a peach, and a banana. None of the girls is eating a type of fruit that begins with the same initial as her name, If Anna doesnt like pears, who is eating what?"
Anna Eats Banana
Petra Eats Apple
Bonnie Eats Peach
Pat Eats Pear
These names listed above are 4 friends. but 3 are fucking Girls. Pat is a fuckin Guy. so the rules of who eats what doesnt apply to Pat the guy.
I win, I hope.. 3am post FTW?...........thank me if Im right.
Wrong, you actually introduced an additional degree of freedom, so 4 solutions total I think...
ie:
Anna eats Peach
Petra eats Apple
Bonnie eats Pear
Pat eats Banana
and
Anna eats Peach
Petra eats Banana
Bonnie eats Apple
Pat eats Pear
are two of the few solutions that are different from the one you proposed.
corollagtSr5
09-02-2009, 01:49 PM
Wrong, you actually introduced an additional degree of freedom, so 4 solutions total I think...
ie:
Anna eats Peach
Petra eats Apple
Bonnie eats Pear
Pat eats Banana
and
Anna eats Peach
Petra eats Banana
Bonnie eats Apple
Pat eats Pear
are two of the few solutions that are different from the one you proposed.
pat cant eat pear
This reminds me of that thread where someone did a massive 1 page answer with graphs and shit (MWR34?) Anyone got a link to that? haha
InvisibleSoul
09-02-2009, 02:39 PM
pat cant eat pear
Why not? It says "None of the girls is eating a type of fruit that begins with the same initial as her name". But we're assuming Pat is a guy in this case.
Hondaracer
09-02-2009, 02:57 PM
Dude. You're 43. If you haven't gotten your GED by now its just not going to happen. Give it up.
maybe i should update my age lol, im actually 23 and am only upgrading my highschool math, I already have a few certs from BCIT :p lol
Orion
09-02-2009, 04:33 PM
Why not? It says "None of the girls is eating a type of fruit that begins with the same initial as her name". But we're assuming Pat is a guy in this case.
it was also said that "At Lunch time four friends"
we also assume guys and girls can't be friends... only soulmate, lovers or sex buddies
fobulaus
09-02-2009, 04:40 PM
pat cant eat pear
You obviously didn't read the post I was replying to
penner2k
09-02-2009, 04:56 PM
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!e.lo_
09-02-2009, 06:34 PM
HAHA what a thread.
^are you sure? should add, "kanye = genius"
Chopstick
09-03-2009, 12:44 AM
i do know one thing... u are not asian lol
tsk, tsk, another cookie fooled by Chopstick
(^__^) v
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Chopstick
09-03-2009, 12:55 AM
btw, does anyone has the definite answer?
its really confusing. if it was less complicated, the answer could be found more easily
Orion
09-03-2009, 08:45 AM
btw, does anyone has the definite answer?
its really confusing. if it was less complicated, the answer could be found more easily
the answer has been posted a few times... read
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