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: Porsche: Volkswagen Board Votes to Cancel Porsche Cayenne and Panamera


Jackygor
09-02-2009, 12:35 PM
Porsche may have expanded out of the sports car segments over the last few years – first with the Cayenne SUV and most recently with the Panamera sedan – but the now Volkswagen-led will be returning to its roots over the next few years.

Although the Cayenne has been a huge money maker for Porsche, it really doesn’t fit in the automaker’s sports car theme. As such, Volkswagen’s board has decided to ax the Cayenne from Porsche’s product line after the next-generation of the SUV has run its course. An updated version of the Cayenne will bow for the 2011 model year, but no updates are expected thereafter.

Perhaps even more surprising, VW’s board has also voted to kill off the recently launched Panamera sedan after its initial run, according to Car. The Cayenne and Panamera are expected to finish their current life cycles with production ceasing sometime in 2016.

“VW Group has plenty of SUVs and saloons [sedans] — it doesn’t need Porsche to build them,” an inside source told Car.

Despite the thinning of the ranks, VW is said to be working on a new entry-level vehicle for Porsche. As previously reported, the new model would slot beneath the Porsche Boxster and share its underpinnings with a production version of the VW Bluesport concept.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-vw-board-votes-to-ax-porsche-cayenne-panamera.html#more-20797

shenmecar
09-02-2009, 12:47 PM
Thats an early end to the Panamera.

thumper
09-02-2009, 01:08 PM
i'm guessing that the cayenne will live on in the vw touraeg/audi q7, and the panamera will become the vw phateon.

... unless some long-lost porsche family surfaces and tries another hostile takeover :rolleyes:

maxx
09-02-2009, 01:29 PM
damn. the cayenne was a great alternative to the RR Sport.

jackmeister
09-02-2009, 02:18 PM
hahaha
to add insult to injury.. first porsche tries to take over VW, then it got reverse-taken over, and now they're just butchering porsche.

Jackygor
09-02-2009, 02:30 PM
its almost like they are trying to cripple porsche do they can never try to take over VW again lol

Harvey Specter
09-02-2009, 02:49 PM
Thank god that two of the ugliest vehicles on the road today will be gone soon.

Jsunu
09-02-2009, 03:26 PM
while the Cayenne is ugly as sin, it is still profitable! why shoot themselves in the foot damit

Mugen EvOlutioN
09-02-2009, 03:30 PM
noooo who is gonna take the fastest SUV 's place if they take away the Cayenne

Gt-R R34
09-02-2009, 04:18 PM
don't understand why are they killing the cash cow known as cayenne, even if i'm returning to my "roots" i don't see the point in ever killing a GOOD source of revenue.

asian_XL
09-02-2009, 04:58 PM
I don't think that's a very smart business idea after spending all the money on development (espeically the upcoming Cayenne hybrid), and yeah, I don't think porsche has problem selling the cayenne, is that a rumour only?

maxx
09-02-2009, 04:59 PM
noooo who is gonna take the fastest SUV 's place if they take away the Cayenne

X5 M

Harvey Specter
09-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Or the X6 M.

yvrnycracer
09-02-2009, 06:25 PM
One would think that people interested in the Cayenne would be pushed towards the Q7 or the Touareg considering they are almost the same car... Panamera would go towards the A8/Phaeton... but VW is smart in cutting the fat at Porsche. In the end they are a sports car company and within the VAG portfolio there are so many brands that fill the niche that the Cayenne and the Panamera fit... Panamera takes business from Audi, Bentley and VW and soon Lamborghini if they produce the 4 door saloon. Cayenne takes business from VW and Audi and in the end they are cannibalizing their own market with the addition of Porsche.

Porsche should go back to what they do best... producing Beetles with crazy handling and power! :)

Mugen EvOlutioN
09-02-2009, 08:11 PM
is M X5 / M X6 even available? do they even have one? never seen on on the street



Thought SRT 8 was suppose to take its place if its gonna retire

:D

.Renn.Sport
09-02-2009, 08:15 PM
i'm guessing that the cayenne will live on in the vw touraeg/audi q7, and the panamera will become the vw phateon.

... unless some long-lost porsche family surfaces and tries another hostile takeover :rolleyes:

at the end of everything, the porsche family will own even more shares of the company

its very unlikely that they will cut the cayenne, its the biggest cash cow for porsche.

Harvey Specter
09-02-2009, 08:57 PM
You'll see the M X5/6 soon.

AVS_Racing
09-02-2009, 09:33 PM
noooooooooooo wut will the rich c lais buy nowwwww

asian_XL
09-02-2009, 09:35 PM
^ still the same old M-class

124Y
09-02-2009, 10:11 PM
noooo who is gonna take the fastest SUV 's place if they take away the Cayenne

Maybe Pagani or Bugatti will surprise us and build an SUV some day.

Alpine
09-03-2009, 12:50 AM
Like others have said, it's probably a stupid idea to cancel the Cayenne.
I'm sure VW would like to argue that it's taking away sales from the touraeg and Q7 but the fact of the matter is that neither VW or Audi have the same brand cache as Porsche does. No matter what Porsche has done recently, they still have 50+ years of brand equity that would be hard to erase. When you think of Porsche today versus Porsche 20 years ago, the key associations are probably still the same/very similar... and these associations are highly unlikely to be shared with Audi or with VW.

orange7
09-03-2009, 06:29 AM
so who owns who? Porsche own VW? or the other way around?

Z3guy
09-03-2009, 07:12 AM
X5 M

What a stupid move on VWs part...they will just give the premium sports oriented SUV market to AMG, RR, and BMW (X5M and X6M).

This will go down as one of the dumbest automotive moves ever. The Porsche brand is rooted in performance, but let's face it, Cayenne consumers want the Porsche image with SUV usabability and comfort.

Z3guy
09-03-2009, 07:15 AM
One would think that people interested in the Cayenne would be pushed towards the Q7 or the Touareg considering they are almost the same car... Panamera would go towards the A8/Phaeton... but VW is smart in cutting the fat at Porsche. In the end they are a sports car company and within the VAG portfolio there are so many brands that fill the niche that the Cayenne and the Panamera fit... Panamera takes business from Audi, Bentley and VW and soon Lamborghini if they produce the 4 door saloon. Cayenne takes business from VW and Audi and in the end they are cannibalizing their own market with the addition of Porsche.

Porsche should go back to what they do best... producing Beetles with crazy handling and power! :)

On paper that sounds right, but most people look at Porsche as a step up from Audi, regardless if their underpinnings are the same. VW is crazy to not leverage the quality and performance image of Porsche. Lamborghini does not have it (no racing heritage).

shenmecar
09-03-2009, 07:51 AM
But the X6 is so ugly. Why the hell does it sell so well? Why are they even offering a "M" upgrade to it?!?!

Mugen EvOlutioN
09-03-2009, 07:58 AM
^

ugliest fucking car i almost ever seen follow by aztec


the rear is just like wat the fuck


decent power plant i guess

Z3guy
09-03-2009, 07:58 AM
I have to agree, the X6 looks weird....but I think that is part of the appeal....just like the look of a 911 porsche or first gen Saabs....

shenmecar
09-03-2009, 08:46 AM
^

ugliest fucking car i almost ever seen follow by aztec


the rear is just like wat the fuck


decent power plant i guess

I would rather they shove that 4.4L twin-turbo V8 into the X5, at least the X5 is a SUV, not something with an identity crisis. Am I a SUV or a Coupe? I'll be BOTH!!!

Just axe the X6 already!

Z3guy
09-03-2009, 09:44 AM
why would bmw axe the X6 if they are selling well?

get ready for all major car companies doing the SUV/Coupe crossover thing.....

yvrnycracer
09-03-2009, 10:14 AM
why would bmw axe the X6 if they are selling well?

get ready for all major car companies doing the SUV/Coupe crossover thing.....


it may be ugly... i thought it was ugly when i first saw it... now i like it... and countless reviews after reviews have said it is the first SUV that truly feels like a sports car... handles and performs amazingly well...

too_slow
09-03-2009, 10:24 AM
it may be ugly... i thought it was ugly when i first saw it... now i like it... and countless reviews after reviews have said it is the first SUV that truly feels like a sports car... handles and performs amazingly well...

Completely off topic, but how much is your Tourag OTD? does it have the air-suspension found on the V10 TDI?

too_slow
09-03-2009, 10:28 AM
You guys think the X6 is bad?

Check this out:

http://blogs.edmunds.com/strategies/bmw-gt-r34-750.jpg

Apparently, there'll be a 7 series GT as well.. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Interesting enough, Audi won't be selling the the 5 GT equivalent here:

The S5 Sportback

http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/Audi_News/s5_sportback.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/generated//Events/Frankfurt%20IAA/2009/Audi%20S5%20Sportback/007__scaled_600.jpg

yvrnycracer
09-03-2009, 10:45 AM
Completely off topic, but how much is your Tourag OTD? does it have the air-suspension found on the V10 TDI?

Not sure what the price will be... will be negotiated when it arrives in october... but it is a full load so the VW MSRP on the website with all options will give you an idea...

Unfortunately VWoC has decided not to include Air Suspension for canadian models. The Best you can get is the Sport package that has a "sport suspension" and upgraded wheels.

If it had bags I would be tweeking the system so it would ride lower... I love the air suspension on my Jetta GLI (its aftermarket obviously) so I would be very happy having it on a touareg... but alas VWoC is not the brightest when it come to making decisions...

?NR
09-03-2009, 08:14 PM
is M X5 / M X6 even available? do they even have one? never seen on on the street



Thought SRT 8 was suppose to take its place if its gonna retire

:D

X5 M is already at some dealerships.

sulos
09-04-2009, 11:12 AM
hahaha
to add insult to injury.. first porsche tries to take over VW, then it got reverse-taken over, and now they're just butchering porsche.

wrong, they are bring it back to what it was. Hopefully they will increase the number of races they are involved in

!Aznboi128
09-04-2009, 11:40 AM
I actually like the panamera

synchrocone
09-04-2009, 08:30 PM
One would think that people interested in the Cayenne would be pushed towards the Q7 or the Touareg considering they are almost the same car... Panamera would go towards the A8/Phaeton... but VW is smart in cutting the fat at Porsche. In the end they are a sports car company and within the VAG portfolio there are so many brands that fill the niche that the Cayenne and the Panamera fit... Panamera takes business from Audi, Bentley and VW and soon Lamborghini if they produce the 4 door saloon. Cayenne takes business from VW and Audi and in the end they are cannibalizing their own market with the addition of Porsche.

Porsche should go back to what they do best... producing Beetles with crazy handling and power! :)

Id so soddy. Im not on this board too often as i try not to rain on anyones parade; it was a complete failure on the crosswind test at highway speeds so its probably going to take a longways back when that happened. Im not surprised one could get out of a rut with some 195 winter treads.

J____
09-04-2009, 09:09 PM
with the vw's V10 TT diesel Touareg and 500+lb torque at 23mpg highway fuel economy, its not a surprise they'd cancel the cayenne

bossxx
09-06-2009, 06:57 PM
This article is funny. They say they are ditching the Cayenne because it doesn't fit the Porsche image. That's like McDonalds ditching the Big Mac. Then they say they are making an entry level Porsche.. something below the Boxster. Well they designed and built the Boxster because they wanted an entry level Porsche. So they already have the entry level car and they are ditching the money maker. IMO the new Cayenne's are friggin sweeeet

MDMA
09-06-2009, 10:39 PM
ml63 > cayenne

jigjag
09-07-2009, 04:15 AM
Fx50s... FTW. Nuff said.