[TRD Rs200]

Hey everyone, I've been running my s2000 on N/A for a while but I am looking for more power now. what are the pros and cons of supercharging or turbocharging it.

I know its not even close to comparison, but i want to beat a GTR.

any suggestions would be cool

[impactX]

Which GT-R?

Ask Jason why he got rid of his S/C'ed S2k, IIRC the rear diff kept blowing.

[TRD Rs200]

09 GTR stock

[orange7]

^
not possible

[impactX]

09 GTR stock

stock GTR = mid-11s car
stock S2k = low-14s or high-13s car

You may as well get a GTR.

[TRD Rs200]

stock GTR = mid-11s car
stock S2k = low-14s or high-13s car

You may as well get a GTR.

well, my s2k wont be stock. what i mean is, would i need to turbo or sc it to beat a stock GTR

[Manic!]

well, my s2k wont be stock. what i mean is would i need to turbo or sc it to beat a stock GTR

A 2JZ swap and then some.

[impactX]

And the 2JZ-GTE won't even fit the IS without some fab. work... it's going to cost you one way or another.

[Rikaro]

^
2JZ in s2k has been done.

I wouldn't boost an s2k just to beat a gtr. Not worth it anyway.

[elkayem]

Why? Does your friend drive a GTR and you feel jealous?

I know how you feel. :p
I always wanna beat an STI (Of course my goal is not as high as your's vs a GTR.)

[Drift_Monkey]

can you get a stronger Diff that fits the s2k?

if so then you can boost it what ever way you want.

Nitrous kit could be another option on top of s/c or t/c

[Shun Izaki]

pros/cons of supercharger is a long debate, which you could prolly hit the search button for.

in my experience, boost as it goes for s2k's always lies with turbo, as a good tune will allow you not to blow up your car...

that being said... you wanna beat a GT-R? just buy something better... you're not going to take a $50k car (s2k brand new) and whoop a $100k car (GT-R) with $10k worth of boost.

don't be one of those douchebag civic's that's pullin a great stock 127HP and start revving next to Evo's and shit.

[orange7]

don't be one of those douchebag civic's that's pullin a great stock 127HP and start revving next to Evo's and shit.

or a si reving next to a LS600h

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

or a genesis

[!Aznboi128]

it's been done

stronger diff, turbo and drag tires will beat a gt-r

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQst99sHUsc

[shenmecar]

Lol, lets say you tune your S2k to beat the GTR now.

Winter comes, you'll still lose cuz you wont be able to drive your car! =(

[Hehe]

You would have to come up with an entire modification plan to get your s2k to beat a GTR rather than going turbo/SC.

There are tuned s2k out there that can be faster than GTR, but they have some serious money invested.

[Pt20]

or a si reving next to a LS600h

:haha:

[Eclypz]

I'd be scared to drive a S2k with 480hp/430lb-ft of torque :p

Like somebody already said...for the amount of money you're going to have to spend, you're better off getting a GT-R.
Power is only half the battle...you need to worry about traction, reliability, driveability, cooling, chassis reinforcement, fuel, etc.

Even if you could get a power curve up to GT-R territory (not likely, since the motor is just too small), you wouldn't want to daily drive it, which means GT-R still > you

[RabidRat]

can you get a stronger Diff that fits the s2k?

if so then you can boost it what ever way you want.

Nitrous kit could be another option on top of s/c or t/c

yup. there are options out there for building up the diff in the s2k, but it seems that most people don't want to put the money and effort into it and just let the stock one keep blowing.

[RabidRat]

how much are you willing to spend? you can come reasonable close pretty easily.

Kraftwerks Supercharger: $6300 USD
needs no tuning, needs no building up of the motor, and is easy enough to install you can do it yourself. 325whp. apparently daily driveable, and very reliable.
http://www.kraftwerksusa.com/product-details-promo.php?productId=55

PuddyMod Built Diff: $2500 USD +$? for install
http://www.hardtopguy.com/store/product.php?productid=780&cat=0&page=1

Beefier ACT Clutch: $700 USD, +$1000? for install
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/drivetrain_performance_products/S2000/ACT/

you'd be out maybe $14,000 CAD when it's all said and done?

[TRD Rs200]

Why? Does your friend drive a GTR and you feel jealous?

I know how you feel. :p
I always wanna beat an STI (Of course my goal is not as high as your's vs a GTR.)

I am still debating if i should extensively do up my s2k and or is300 or get an ISF. the problem with the ISF is that there isn much aftermarket parts for it yet. both performance and exterior parts.

and yes I am jealous of someone. just so unfair just because his family is rich and he drives a GTR seems like all of a sudden everyone worships him. anyways back on topic. what other cars could I consider if i were not to tc or sc my s2k/is300?

[Adrenaline Rush]

Sigh - there's always going to be someone faster or who's going to have a nicer car than you, just deal with it. Say you put 30k into your S2k to beat him - he can spend another 10k and whoop you again. The GTR aftermarket is going to be huge and if he's well off, he's probably going to start modding his car as well. Just be happy with your car and work on becoming a better person.

[TRD Rs200]

Just be happy with your car and work on becoming a better person.

Very Very nicely quoted. its going on my signature

[maxx]

e36 m3. twin screw supercharger. stage 2. power comes at 1500 rpm. 500 whp. bye bye datsun. excellent daily driver. whole thing will cost around 35,000.

[orange7]

Just be happy with your car and work on becoming a better person.

+1

Just be a better person than he is, and in the end you will know you're the winner even though you may not feel like one. Be nice and cool with your buddies, don't hate nor worship him cause he has a gee tee arrr..

[Manic!]

e36 m3. twin screw supercharger. stage 2. power comes at 1500 rpm. 500 whp. bye bye datsun. excellent daily driver. whole thing will cost around 35,000.

Until it snows.

[AzNightmare]

Why don't you get a stripped out AE86 instead, and slap on the S2K engine?
It would be cool if you beat the GTR that way.

Then after the quarter mile, you can start pulling wicked drifts, and he won't be able to do that with his fully electronic aided AWD car.
Don't worry about the launch. It's all about the twisties.


On a more serious note, why does it even matter who has the faster car. This isn't Tokyo Drift, where winner gets the girl and respect or something.
If it is, you need to seriously find new friends to hang out with. And everyone who worships that guy probably worships him for his ballin' GTR, and not for it being a faster car than yours.
So you having a faster car would be besides the point. Unless you go and get a Lamborghini or something.

[maxx]

^^ then you buy a land rover

[rk604]

boost your car to freaking boost it...to make your car faster...but don't boost it solely on the purpose of beating your "gtr friend". Unless hes worth the money...

Anyways if you consider yourself an s2k enthusiast, then i say do it...if not then you can spend your money somewhere else where you would gain more bang for your buck.

[Manic!]

^^ then you buy a land rover

Or you could have bought a GTR for less money and have a win win situation.

[maxx]

Or you could have bought a GTR for less money and have a win win situation.

neg. you can buy a very nice 05-06 lr3 for 30,000 and blow another 5 for winch and bigger tires and its still be less - which is pretty much what i did. ;)

[Jackygor]

drop in a LS1 then twinturbo it.

[TRD Rs200]

+1

Just be a better person than he is, and in the end you will know you're the winner even though you may not feel like one. Be nice and cool with your buddies, don't hate nor worship him cause he has a gee tee arrr..

problem is.... this retard keeps showing off to my girl. its really pissing me off. that makes up a huge part of the reason why I want to beat him.

[maxx]

problem is.... this retard keeps showing off to my girl. its really pissing me off. that makes up a huge part of the reason why I want to beat him.

hahahahaahahahaha.. if your girl cares about him showing off - you have a serious problem bud

if she doesnt, then fuck him.

haha

[TRD Rs200]

anyways its all bs now.. lets get back to the pros and cons of tc or sc my s2k

[SumAznGuy]

WTF are you people talking about. There are no cons to forced induction on the S2000. Do it!!!!!!!

But I would go turbo. Make 450-500 whp...

Once you go boost, you won't look back.

[AzNightmare]

^^ then you buy a land rover

what does a land rover have to do with anything? :confused:

[spoon.ek9]

modifying your car should be about YOU, nobody else.

you can't control how a girl/gf reacts. if she goes for him, then she wasn't worth your time in the first place.

as for the boost, do it if your heart is in the right place. you should know what i mean after all of the above comments.

[impactX]

LOL didn't expect that reason at all.

[d1]

The OP will not get either. This is fact.

[trancehead]

problem is.... this retard keeps showing off to my girl. its really pissing me off. that makes up a huge part of the reason why I want to beat him.

hahahhahahahahhahahhhahahhaha

this is too good.
seriously?

hahhahahhahahahahahahahaha

[1990TSI]

Pretty good troll thread.

fooled most people haha

[Dinan3]

Save the money, work on your driving and take him to the track.

Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfZAj3dlfig

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

problem is.... this retard keeps showing off to my girl. its really pissing me off. that makes up a huge part of the reason why I want to beat him.

lol for shizzel my nizzel? for real?


lol
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::h aha::haha::haha:

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::h aha::haha::haha:

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::h aha::haha::haha:

and ur gf falls for it im assuming? so u are pissed

[busdriverman]

dont be so immature as to mod a car just to show some guy off

to your gf:

those who matter dont mind,
those who mind dont matter.

[Death2Theft]

A supercharger wont be able to touch a GTR. Turbo is the only way to go, therefore enjoy your peaky powerband weak as a slug around town car. Your best mod is a new gf.

[TRD Rs200]

omfg i totally fked up this thread

[maxx]

omfg i totally fked up this thread

no, you told the truth and realized that ur an idiot. better by a bunch of virtual fanboys than your friends, parents or your beloved girlfriend
:haha:

but ya, go to s2k forums and see what plp have done.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

or twin turbo that 2jz engine of urs


but maybe the GF MOD is more practical and more cost efficient i'd say

[Muskys SS]

After tuning both supercharged and turbocharged S2K's. Turbo is the way to go. It will be more expensive but the power under the curve is by far superior with a turbo. Here's a link to one of our S2K Shop cars. It traps 120mph in the quarter mile. That will surprise some modded GTR's;) Scroll down to the GT30 S2000. http://www.racinggreed.com/index.php?section=project

[Shun Izaki]

wow man, since when did VAC become relationship/gender??

take your girl-like-beef-pussy whatever back there... no one is taking this thread seriously lol

[Marioo1991]

If your girl is impressed by his car, let her go with him. She's just going to leave him later down the road for a guy with an even nicer car, then you can laugh at him.

[vo_hantu]

Lots of work needs to be done if you want to s/c your s2k in order for it to run properly. I highly doubt you are going to track your car...but I'll still give my opinion.

Pros: speed and midrange pick-up

Cons: one of many...

F20/F22 engines have oil heating problems at high RPM in vtec mode. If you s/c your car...it's no good for intake and inefficient in vtec mode over 7000rpm.

That's a lot of work and cash to run it properly just to beat the GTR. If you are made of cash then go for it. I don't think you care about your car being able to run laps all day...but yeah...I don't think you care.

Honestly, you are better off looking for a new girlfriend.

[josel_atr]

Your best mod is a new gf.

agree on this one.

getting a new girl wont be hard for you because s2k's are such pussy magnets. :haha:

[Leopold Stotch]

you guys are assuming that him showing off his car is affecting his gf

what if his GF doesn't like the car, but it just bugs him?

[!Yaminashi]

You're turbo'ing your car for a chick?
C'mon man..

[RabidRat]

Lots of work needs to be done if you want to s/c your s2k in order for it to run properly. I highly doubt you are going to track your car...but I'll still give my opinion.

Pros: speed and midrange pick-up

Cons: one of many...

F20/F22 engines have oil heating problems at high RPM in vtec mode. If you s/c your car...

is an oil cooler not enough?

[benwang]

or a si reving next to a LS600h

i like this one~!!

[benwang]

is an oil cooler not enough?

oil cooler, low temp thermostat, bigger aluminum rad, depends on the boost

[ivys2k]

go with mase turbo kit on a build motor. im pretty sure you can beat the new gtr. =)

[AzNightmare]

Save the money, work on your driving and take him to the track.

Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfZAj3dlfig

Wow nice vid. Can't believe I ended up watching the whole thing.
That GTR was so slow around the corners. wtf.

[Adrenaline Rush]

^^^ It's rarely the car but the driver. Driver skill makes a huge difference in any type of racing, and that means cars that should normally "beat" others don't necessarily do so.

[GordonTse]

GTR can doriffto too!!

[Rikaro]

This thread is epic.

[Drift_Monkey]

you gotta mod your s2k like this one to run on the track against ferraris::thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCxhf_yV3Z8&feature=PlayList&p=C74A4FAB161943BE&index=9

or if you mod your car specifically for a touge battle, u should beat the GTR:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cW5hYmFokI

[N1R]

problem is.... this retard keeps showing off to my girl. its really pissing me off. that makes up a huge part of the reason why I want to beat him.


Buddy 99% girls don't care about fast cars.
She probably thinks it's an ugly car and that the guy is a dumbass for spending a 100G on a Nissan with cheap plastic interior.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

werd

[Marioo1991]

Forget the turbo, just get a whistle tip and call it a day.

[obselete]

just trade ur car in. s2000's arent meant to handle any more power than they have with their weak diff

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

but he'll still get smoked!!!

[TRD Rs200]

anyways... thx for all your advice. but I went into Lexus yesterday and put a deposit on a IS F

P.S. we broke up yesterday. and NO its not about the other guy or his GTR!!!!!!

[BlackV62K2]

Buddy 99% girls don't care about fast cars.
She probably thinks it's an ugly car and that the guy is a dumbass for spending a 100G on a Nissan with cheap plastic interior.

My gf didnt even know that the F430 was a Ferrari when I pointed it out. Same with the Murcielago. Her response "That's nice baby". I just give her this weird look after haha lol.

[Death2Theft]

Lol the is-f is even worse to mod anyhow not very many gtr owners are gonna keep theirs stock once warranty runs out.

[Drift_Monkey]

anyways... thx for all your advice. but I went into Lexus yesterday and put a deposit on a IS F

P.S. we broke up yesterday. and NO its not about the other guy or his GTR!!!!!!

Dude.... congrats on the breakup and a new car.

have you considered the C63 AMG - thats a baller car and its like 5 G's cheaper than the ISF.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

anyways... thx for all your advice. but I went into Lexus yesterday and put a deposit on a IS F

P.S. we broke up yesterday. and NO its not about the other guy or his GTR!!!!!!

wow, congrats on the new purchase



and.....congrats getting rid of that gf? i dunno


but all in all


congrats

:thumbsup::haha:

[moomooCow]

So who else here thinks the OP will wrap himself around a pole once he gets his ISF?

[spoon.ek9]

anyways... thx for all your advice. but I went into Lexus yesterday and put a deposit on a IS F

P.S. we broke up yesterday. and NO its not about the other guy or his GTR!!!!!!

haha i hope for your sake that's true. either way, congrats!

new car? new gf? win win.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^


i wonder what will be NEW next

:D

[TRD Rs200]

So who else here thinks the OP will wrap himself around a pole once he gets his ISF?

Thx everyone for the gratz... i rarely speed. only on tracks. i've only gotten 2 speeding tickets in my life.

as for the ISF modding. mayb another set of rims and WALD kit for now. there arent many aftermarket parts for ISF yet. (I think)

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

slap on some Advan/VOLKs and lower it, it will be sick

:D

[TRD Rs200]

I've always loved Advan RG2, still doing research on what size and offset I will go with

[too_slow]

You want to mod your car, so you'll get more attention from your GF (and hope that she wont notice your 'rival's' GT-R?) Sounds like an EMO-Initial D cartoon in the making..

[Jackygor]

why IS-F when you can get C63?

[RabidRat]

I don't know how you could go from an S2000 to an ISF.

The S2000 makes 60 less hp than all its competition in the same price range, and it's for a specific set of reasons that it still makes sense to some people.

You find none of these things in an ISF. It's a comfort cruiser with a mandatory slushbox. What's going through your head??

[d1]

What a troll. One day you ask if you should get a turbo or s/c which you weren't going to get anyways then 2 days later say you're getting an IS-F. How about you stop spewing your bullshit?

[TRD Rs200]

What a troll. One day you ask if you should get a turbo or s/c which you weren't going to get anyways then 2 days later say you're getting an IS-F. How about you stop spewing your bullshit?

hey man things change quickly. I've always wanted an IS F, and i decided to get one now. I dont see anything wrong with that... if u dont anything postive to say keep your comments to yourself

I don't know how you could go from an S2000 to an ISF.

The S2000 makes 60 less hp than all its competition in the same price range, and it's for a specific set of reasons that it still makes sense to some people.

You find none of these things in an ISF. It's a comfort cruiser with a mandatory slushbox. What's going through your head??

Like i said, I've always like IS-F and I can finally get one now. I was debating if i should put more money in to my is300/s2000 or get a new car. So i decided to get a new car now.

[impactX]

But IS-F isn't even in the same league as GTR-R35 in a straight line or in corners.

PS: The WALD kit is very nice, someone at my building has it and the line flows well.

[Drift_Monkey]

I still think you should get the C63 AMG.

all you need is some suspension and some rims and your set!!!!

you can save that 6000 to mod your car instead of buying the ISF

[ajax]

The only way to beat a GTR is to be a GTR.
VQ38DETT Swap:rolleyes:

[Shun Izaki]

I've always loved Advan RG2, still doing research on what size and offset I will go with

RGII's in hypergold ftw...

but be warned... it's not the strongest wheel i've delt with, just nailing a pothole the wrong way, and i've managed to VERY SLIGHTLY bend the outside lip...

that's cast vs forged for ya.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

honestly tho when u are running a low profile tires, when u go over a large size of pothole the wrong way or higher speed whether its forged, god like, god made it will still bend no matter what.

[FatalCloud]

Save the money, work on your driving and take him to the track.

Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfZAj3dlfig

that's fuking awesome, i lol'd when he was rocking his seat as he passed the golf r32 as if to urge his car to go faster hahahahahaha.

[XtC-604]

I'd be scared to drive a S2k with 480hp/430lb-ft of torque :p

Like somebody already said...for the amount of money you're going to have to spend, you're better off getting a GT-R.
Power is only half the battle...you need to worry about traction, reliability, driveability, cooling, chassis reinforcement, fuel, etc.

Even if you could get a power curve up to GT-R territory (not likely, since the motor is just too small), you wouldn't want to daily drive it, which means GT-R still > you
wouldnt need that much power, the S is light 2800lbs

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

September son!!!! September


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[CanadaGoose]

problem is.... this retard keeps showing off to my girl. its really pissing me off. that makes up a huge part of the reason why I want to beat him.

What's funny is one day when you have a new gf and you're rolling in your new IS-F...

This is going to pull up next to you and embarass you in front of your girl again, and then you'll be back at square one LOL

701 whp S2000, stock block, stock tranny, stock diff

YouTube- 701hp S2000 From Hell-Part1

"If you judge yourself by others, you may become vain or bitter, for there will always be greater and lesser persons than yourself."

Good luck!!

[wstce92]

your not going to impress any girls driving a IS-F with a slushbox, spend 2 more grand and buy a manual M3. Yes the autos are faster on cars like the M3, C63, ISF, RS4; but where's the skill and enjoyment in that. Plus, your coming from a s2000, so it's not like you can't drive a manual.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

700whp on stock block? holly shit!

:eek:

im surprise the axel, tranny, engine hasnt blow up yet

[typ.]

^ it has

[Qmx323]

I am still debating if i should extensively do up my s2k and or is300 or get an ISF. the problem with the ISF is that there isn much aftermarket parts for it yet. both performance and exterior parts.

and yes I am jealous of someone. just so unfair just because his family is rich and he drives a GTR seems like all of a sudden everyone worships him. anyways back on topic. what other cars could I consider if i were not to tc or sc my s2k/is300?

wow thats sad, he needs a cool car to have people like him.

[TOPEC]

your not going to impress any girls driving a IS-F with a slushbox, spend 2 more grand and buy a manual M3. Yes the autos are faster on cars like the M3, C63, ISF, RS4; but where's the skill and enjoyment in that. Plus, your coming from a s2000, so it's not like you can't drive a manual.

if u drive a manual, u wont have hands to caress ur gf's titties while shifting and steering.

700whp on stock block? holly shit!

:eek:

im surprise the axel, tranny, engine hasnt blow up yet

puff, any car can handle XXXWhp on stock everything, the real question is, how reliable is the car with XXXWhp. no point of having XXXWhp if all else can't handle that kind of power and keeps on breaking.

[Z3guy]

drop in a LS1 then twinturbo it.

best bang for your buck upgrade......on bimmer forums, lots of guys are doing LS1 swaps...all said and done...less than $15K

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

wow thats sad, he needs a cool car to have people like him.

hey, sounds like jeffield alrit

[Leopold Stotch]

if u drive a manual, u wont have hands to caress ur gf's titties while shifting and steering.


trust me

you find ways.

[Qmx323]

hey, sounds like jeffield alrit


but we still hate his fat ass

so his car must not be cool enough

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

it just requires more than 700whp, than its all good

:thumbsup:

[Mr.Jay]

if u drive a manual, u wont have hands to caress ur gf's titties while shifting and steering.


Put the car in gear and just take er easy while gettin road head.

Always been my solution when my ex gfs complained about my road rage. Road head is the cure for road rage for sure.
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[RabidRat]

trust me

you find ways.

+9000.

[TRD Rs200]

haha, this post STILL? lol i sound fucking retarded back then. turbo or sc my s2k over that bitch.

[CanadaGoose]

Okay I just want to get this out there, the majority of females do not know ANYTHING about cars. If the car belongs to YOU, do it up how YOU want it, and make YOURSELF happy.

Ask yourself..what's the hottest purse out RIGHT NOW? And what brand is it? Hottest brand of makeup? THE shoe to have right now? Yeah about as much as you know about that, is as much as the majority of girls know about cars... they dont know what a turbo is, 2JZ, standalone engine management, FMIC or a blow off valve is!! They go, that car was sooo loud I could hear it from 2 blocks away! And when he was revving, the engine goes vrroooom, and then PSSHHHHHH it's so loud! What car was it? It was black and tinted windows.....wat. Or, yeah he's driving a BMW!! What kind is it? I don't know it's silver..... you get it? :D

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

in that case just get a 323i, forget 335i and M3. Since its all about the badget, and it looks pretty much the same

:thumbsup:

[Qmx323]

son of a bitch i gotta start looking at the first post date

[freakshow]

So hows your new ISF doing? ;)

[Zulu]

Not making any power till 6krpm ouch. Somehow I doubt that thing passes emissions inspection ;P

[TRD Rs200]

So hows your new ISF doing? ;)

not bad, in my garage, researching what direction i will go right now.

[flagella]

Most pathetic thing to do is to try to have other people change opinions about yourself based on a car you own.

and I just realized this is an old thread rofl.

[death_blossom]

and yes I am jealous of someone. just so unfair just because his family is rich and he drives a GTR seems like all of a sudden everyone worships him. anyways back on topic. what other cars could I consider if i were not to tc or sc my s2k/is300?

dood, don't worry about that spoiled guy and him trying to impress your gf. he'll get his and probably end up like that other guy who drove the GT-R into a VanCity.

[death_blossom]

After tuning both supercharged and turbocharged S2K's. Turbo is the way to go. It will be more expensive but the power under the curve is by far superior with a turbo. Here's a link to one of our S2K Shop cars. It traps 120mph in the quarter mile. That will surprise some modded GTR's;) Scroll down to the GT30 S2000. http://www.racinggreed.com/index.php?section=project

Musky, how is the lowend power on a turbo application s2000? would a supercharger have more lowend power compared to a similar turbo equipped s2k?