[turboy]

gonna buy a different car and still deciding on whether to buy a fwd hatchback or a 4wd suv... its all about the snow...
is fwd with winter tire enough or awd is the way to go?

[mmmk]

are u asking RS a question?
or are u just telling us you're deciding between a fwd hatchback or a 4wd suv?

[tonyvu]

i heard we have a mild winter this year... rain all day??? :D

[ELITE_TRAYUNZE]

gonna buy a different car and still deciding on whether to buy a fwd hatchback or a 4wd suv... its all about the snow...

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/116009498931/inlineimg/Y/super_cool_story_bro.png

[Kang19]

gonna buy a different car and still deciding on whether to buy a fwd hatchback or a 4wd suv... its all about the snow...

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/cool_story_bro.jpg

[JulyZerg]

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/e/e9/Riveting_tale_chap.jpg

[Harvey Specter]

Turdboy ftl.

[Culture_Vulture]

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/e/e9/Riveting_tale_chap.jpg
this one never gets old

[Shun Izaki]

are u asking RS a question?
or are u just telling us you're deciding between a fwd hatchback or a 4wd suv?

don't you just hate chicks that say everything higher at the end like a question? XD

[silk]

buy a plow truck

[GSdreamin]

It's gunna be a normal winter this year...lots O' Rain like usual

[asian_XL]

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

[FatalCloud]

because of el nino, we're gonna get more rain than snow this year.

[shenmecar]

hey look! a veyron from the supercar show!!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/xTeddieZx/Supercar%20Show/09122009459.jpg

[simsimi1004]

veyrons getting old too. cool story bro

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

get a veyron, its AWD u will never get stuck with 1001 HP

[jlenko]

Good ol' Revscene... people posting useless responses... insert facepalm here.

How about... where do you live? North Van? Richmond? Near a main road, or deep in the side streets? Lots of flat, or lots of hills? Or both? Do the streets get plowed on your road before you go to work, or are you going to be digging yourself out and one of the first out on the streets? These are all important questions.

No matter what you drive... it's easier to get around in the winter (snow or no snow..) with winter tires. All seasons are 3 seasons at best - spring once it warms up, summer and early fall.. Once it starts getting below 7 or 8 degrees Celsius on average, you should put winter tires on because the tire compound is softer and your car will handle better. Buy a set now, so you don't have to worry about it when the cold hits. Plus it's easier to stop in the cold when your tires aren't sliding... summer tires or bald all seasons are a recipe for disaster!!

The best thing about winter tires... put 'em on a second set of rims, then when you swap 'em, you can inspect the brakes, CV boots, suspension parts, tire pressures, etc while you're in there.

[josel_atr]

buy a plow truck

or get a car, put a huge front body kit on it. make sure its low enough to plow snow. :)

[ELITE_TRAYUNZE]

Good ol' Revscene... people posting useless responses... insert facepalm here.

How about... where do you live? North Van? Richmond? Near a main road, or deep in the side streets? Lots of flat, or lots of hills? Or both? Do the streets get plowed on your road before you go to work, or are you going to be digging yourself out and one of the first out on the streets? These are all important questions.

No matter what you drive... it's easier to get around in the winter (snow or no snow..) with winter tires. All seasons are 3 seasons at best - spring once it warms up, summer and early fall.. Once it starts getting below 7 or 8 degrees Celsius on average, you should put winter tires on because the tire compound is softer and your car will handle better. Buy a set now, so you don't have to worry about it when the cold hits. Plus it's easier to stop in the cold when your tires aren't sliding... summer tires or bald all seasons are a recipe for disaster!!

The best thing about winter tires... put 'em on a second set of rims, then when you swap 'em, you can inspect the brakes, CV boots, suspension parts, tire pressures, etc while you're in there.

Useless responses? More like starting useless threads.....He doesn't even ask a question. What is this thread about? Okay so this guy is getting a hatchback or SUV;super fucking cool story bro.

Why would I ask where he lives? If his original post was of any use, or if he thought it was relevant to what he might be TRYING to ask (and I capitalized 'trying' because he's not asking anything at all), he would've told us his location by himself.

[orange7]

Useless responses? More like starting useless threads.....He doesn't even ask a question. What is this thread about? Okay so this guy is getting a hatchback or SUV;super fucking cool story bro.

Why would I ask where he lives? If his original post was of any use, or if he thought it was relevant to what he might be TRYING to ask (and I capitalized 'trying' because he's not asking anything at all), he would've told us his location by himself.

+1

this ain't no twitter or facebook

[ziggyx]

This guy is new to revscene, cut him some slack? Unless it's just a new account.

Like some people have mentioned we're going to have a mild winter so I wouldn't worry too much about snow. Chances are we we get very little to now snow at all. And like jlenko said snow tires are probably the most important thing when it comes to snow. There's no point having 4wd if you don't have the traction to back it up.

[Gh0stRider]

Where's the OP? Starts a thread and runs away? Wtf!

[turboy]

Where's the OP? Starts a thread and runs away? Wtf!

i wrote it late last night and slept in and just woke up... cant a man sleep for 12 hours and not get biaached at:)

i was wondering if awd is not a waste of money in vancouver because vancouver didnt used to snow this much.
dont have that much of driving experience so im just worried im gonna get stuck with a fwd

[dinamix]

dude..the bc lions lost!! sorry if im a bit off topic

cool story btw..

[skyxx]

Just get snow tires. They'll do fine regardless if your car's drivetrain is FWD or AWD.

[mmmk]

i wrote it late last night and slept in and just woke up... cant a man sleep for 12 hours and not get biaached at:)

i was wondering if awd is not a waste of money in vancouver because vancouver didnt used to snow this much.
dont have that much of driving experience so im just worried im gonna get stuck with a fwd

Hahaha I know u were asking a question in the OP, but the fact that you spent 5 seconds writing your OP does not earn a response.

Now to be honest with you, I had friends with both RWD and FWD cars get around fine with snow tires on their cars. Just don't lower your car, otherwise there's no point getting snow tires. On the other hand, my 08 MDX was unstoppable was well (with new all season tires). So it's really up to you...FWD+snow tires OR AWD SUV :thumbsup:

[jlenko]

AWD is a waste of money if you think AWD alone will make you a wonderful driver in the snow. It's like N drivers thinking they're invincible. AWD is great for some things... but a well-equipped FWD or even RWD is just fine in the little snow that Vancouver usually gets.

It really doesn't matter what you drive... if you are comfortable with your vehicle and know its' limits... put on good tires, and the rest of the car is in good shape (brakes/ABS, suspension, etc).. then you're going to be able to drive just as well as everyone else.. if not better.

When the first snow hits... go learn your vehicle's limitations in a nice big flat parking lot, before the idiots start trying to do donuts in it.

[skyxx]

^ Plus regardless if you have FWD/AWD/RWD and are equipped with snow tires. Once the snow bottoms out your car you'll get stuck. So don't think it's invincible if you have an AWD drive with snow tires, etc etc...

[Presto]

Doesn't matter what kind of car you get/have. Like jlenko says... snow tires! All-seasons means all the seasons where it doesn't snow. Last winter was my first experience with snow tires. The Prius traction control makes driving in the snow with all-seasons a white-knuckle experience, and almost undriveable. With snow tires I could handle snow covered roads, up to the height of the underside of the car, with utter impunity.

[turboy]

thnx!
now i think im gonna find some prices for snow tires while im buying a car:)

[Gh0stRider]

your fine getting a fwd car, just get snow tires.

[Volvo-brickster]

AWD is a waste of money if you think AWD alone will make you a wonderful driver in the snow. It's like N drivers thinking they're invincible. AWD is great for some things... but a well-equipped FWD or even RWD is just fine in the little snow that Vancouver usually gets.

It really doesn't matter what you drive... if you are comfortable with your vehicle and know its' limits... put on good tires, and the rest of the car is in good shape (brakes/ABS, suspension, etc).. then you're going to be able to drive just as well as everyone else.. if not better.

When the first snow hits... go learn your vehicle's limitations in a nice big flat parking lot, before the idiots start trying to do donuts in it.

4WD + shitty all seasons M+S make for a wonderful driver in the snow :D
for me at least

at least this year i got real winter tires, but its not going to snow now :(

[unit]

Just get snow tires. They'll do fine regardless if your car's drivetrain is FWD or AWD.

agree. even ppl with RWD do ok with good snow tires

[03aspec]

just buy a lambo you pussy, they're awd and can be driven all year round, fuck...

[turboy]

just buy a lambo you pussy, they're awd and can be driven all year round, fuck...

thnx for the comment ur the best

[turboy]

soo any good winter tire brands u guys have used or know of?

[skyxx]

Nokian Hakkapeliitta, Michelen X-ICE 2, Uniroyal Tiger Paws. Those are the brands I've used.

[BoS_DC2]

bridgestone bliZzZzzzZak!!!!!!!!

[racerman88]

get 4 snow tires

[skyxx]

^ Yes that too. +1

[hkRicer]

just buy a lambo you pussy, they're awd and can be driven all year round, fuck...

http://i27.tinypic.com/29vm87l.jpg

[Volvo-brickster]

get 4 snow tires

no need

if its a FWD / RWD with an open diff, find the tire that always spins and get just 1 snow tire for it :D:thumbsup:

[SumAznGuy]

no need

if its a FWD / RWD with an open diff, find the tire that always spins and get just 1 snow tire for it :D:thumbsup:

That or put the one snow tire on one side and weld the brake caliper to the rotor on the other side. :eek:

[moomooCow]

Dunlop SP Winterforce 3D's have only tried those ones but they got pretty good reviews =]

[Mancini]

I just checked the 5 month forecast. You'll want awd this year.

[Inaii]

agree. even ppl with RWD do ok with good snow tires

+1 my brother drives an rx7, did perfectly fine in the snow and had no accidents or incidents of getting stuck. Winter tires ftw =]

[xpl0sive]

so you're only looking to buy a car for the winter or are you looking for a car to buy for a few years? this question alone should determine what car you need... you can buy a FWD piece of shit for $2k, spend $1k on snow tires and drive it around, then put your all seasons back on after the winter. or you can buy a decent AWD truck or SUV for $2k with decent tires, drive it all winter, and then either sell it or keep it for next winter. now if you're looking for a car to keep for a few years, i would suggest just finding a car you like, not worrying about the drivetrain... if you're into civics, get that, get some snow tires with an extra set of rims, and you're good to go.

[moomooCow]

I just checked the 5 month forecast. You'll want awd this year.

Where did you find a 5 month forecast? I'm curious to see it even though it probably won't be accurate at all. hah

[turb0fr3ak]

Where did you find a 5 month forecast? I'm curious to see it even though it probably won't be accurate at all. hah

lol i would like to know as well

[Dragon-88]

Waiting for Renn.Sport's If you dont buy new your not as cool as me comment...

[falcon]

farmers almanac says it's supposed to be a mean winter...


Annual Weather Summary: November 2009 to October 2010

Winter temperatures will be below normal, on average, with above-normal precipitation and much above normal snowfall. The coldest temperatures will occur in mid- and late December, mid-January, and mid-February, with the heaviest snowfalls in mid- and late December and mid-January.

April and May will be drier than normal, with slightly cooler temperatures.

Summer will be warmer and drier than normal, with the hottest temperatures in mid- to late July and early August.

September and October will be slightly drier than normal, with near-normal temperatures.

[shenmecar]

^

its called Global Warming

[illicitstylz]

^

its called Global Warming

actually it's " Climate Change "

[BlackRCode]

from my experience: RWD + good winter tires = FUN !!!

i have driven my Mustang GT and my old RX8 without any problems with the Blizzaks i had on them.

honestly FWD, RWD, AWD are all fine as long as you have good winters.

[Mancini]

Where did you find a 5 month forecast? I'm curious to see it even though it probably won't be accurate at all. hah

From the same place you get the 12 month weather forecast

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2713049064_a756f5dceb.jpg

[moomooCow]

From the same place you get the 12 month weather forecast

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2713049064_a756f5dceb.jpg

And where do you get the 12 month weather forecast? Most sites don't have more than two weeks..

Don't be an asshat when it's not warranted.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2713049064_a756f5dceb.jpg

[!SG]

get your snow tires EARLY. this is the 2nd year of the manditory snow tires in montreal (or was it all of quebec) in winter. last year there was a shortage and thus price went up.

got mine early, great price and even capitalized on it by getting an additional 50 bucks off! :D

im pretty sure the stock list of whats available will come out very soon from the sponsors. their suppliers usually send out the list around this time.

[SpuGen]

Where do you live?
What kind of roads do you drive on to get to work?

If you're on a flat sidestreet, you're fine. Tons of hills on your route? find a flat road.
Live on the big streets? Do you drive deep enough into sidestreets? If no, you're fine.
Tons of hills, and you live deep inside a neighbourhood? Start saving.
Is your car lowered? Watch out for getting high centered.

If there's shittons of snow like last year, I would get a SUV or something that sits pretty high. I saw tons of cars get high centered on sidestreets.

Snow tires + stock car, you'll be fine. RWD FWD or AWD. Just drive accordingly.

With that said, I'm getting a 1g DSM for winter.
Stock, not leaking or smelly, with winters. Should be fun :)

[Volvo-brickster]

from my experience: RWD + good winter tires = FUN !!!

i have driven my Mustang GT and my old RX8 without any problems with the Blizzaks i had on them.

honestly FWD, RWD, AWD are all fine as long as you have good winters.


2 winters ago i tried to drive my stang in the snow on crappy P Zero Nero all seasons

1st i got stuck trying to go downhill in 2 inches of snow ,then i managed to get stuck in the middle of my cul de sac where it sat there blocking traffic for the better part of a week and a half :haha:

[trd2343]

From experience, which one is more important (for safety), the drivetrain or the tires, for winter driving in Vancouver (Richmond and Vancouver)? Or do you need a combination of both?

In addition, comparing drivetrain, is AWD better than other drivetrain in snow? (same sets of tires)

I never really found an answer to that, because often times, people would just throw out "a RWD with snow tires will out handle any other drive train with all season"

That just tells me that snow tires are really useful and important, but that doesn't tell me whether which one would do better in snow given the same parameters.

edit:
Any recommendations as to where I should get a set of snowtires? Websites would be good too. Thanks.

[d1]

awd gets you moving but doesn't necessarily make the car handle better or stop sooner. A set of snow tires helps get you moving, makes the car handle better and helps you stop sooner. I was running shitty snow tires on a rwd vehicle last year and I was fine.

[Soundy]

http://www.farmersalmanac.com/weather/a/frigid-2010-forecast-how-cold-will-the-winter-weather-be

[Mancini]

Don't be an asshat when it's not warranted.


The OP was insinuating that his car purchase depended upon an unreasonably long-term weather forecast of '[will there be] more snow this winter??"

My response was purely sarcastic. Sorry for being an asshat.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

anyone removing their rims soon?

:haha:

[!SG]

i honestly dont touch them until around nov/dec time, ull know when its time to put the winters on when its cold enough to have frost on the ground.

[Soundy]

Regular all-season rubber compounds get hard and lose their grip below about 7 degrees. You'll find winter/snow tires beneficial well before it gets to frost.

[woob]

Dunlop SP Winterforce 3D's have only tried those ones but they got pretty good reviews =]

meee toooooo.

[illicitstylz]

on a FWD vehicle, would you put the newer snow tires on the rear or on the front? I don't think there was a definitive answer in the thread that covered this topic.

[fliptuner]

anyone removing their rims soon?

:haha:

Just have them ready by November. There's no reason to burn off really good snow tires when the roads are dry. It's actually painful to see guys that left their snow tires on right through spring and summer.

If it hasn't already been mentioned (in this thread), spend the extra money and buy winter rims. Even if you spend $400 on winter rims + $100 mount and balance, it's a one-time expense. Otherwise you're spending $200/year to swap tires. If you're only running your winter tires in inclimate weather, they should last around 5 years - that's $1000 you'll never see again. Plus you have to go to the shop to get it done, waste a bunch of time and there's wear and tear on your rims from re and re.

[blkgsr]

I just checked the 5 month forecast. You'll want awd this year.


hahahahahaha you want to tell me the winning numbers for the next lotto too????

[fliptuner]

on a FWD vehicle, would you put the newer snow tires on the rear or on the front? I don't think there was a definitive answer in the thread that covered this topic.

I'd say front for traction and braking.

There used to be a misconception (still is for some) that fwd only needed snow tires on the front. True for traction but braking and handling/control are greatly increased with snowies on the rear.

[roastpuff]

How much is it to mount snow tires vs. mounting winter rims? I know Canadian tire is like $20 per tire to change tires.

[fliptuner]

Mounting regular tires on rims is around $100/set.

Swapping wheels = 15-30 minutes on your driveway, depending on tools.

[!SG]

its been said that even on a FWD car, the newest and best rubber should go on the rears as it is easier to control understeer than it is oversteer for most folks.

on a FWD vehicle, would you put the newer snow tires on the rear or on the front? I don't think there was a definitive answer in the thread that covered this topic.

[jlenko]

Why go cheap? It's your car for crying out loud.... get 4 snow tires and stop fucking around.

[TypeRNammer]

How are the Bridgestone Blizzaks in the winter?

[roastpuff]

How are the Bridgestone Blizzaks in the winter?

Excellent, though they wear fast on dry pavement. This is especially true of the dual-compound Blizzaks, where they have ultra-grippy snow rubber on the first 40% (or something) of the tread and regular snow-tire rubber on the rest.

[TypeRNammer]

Excellent, though they wear fast on dry pavement. This is especially true of the dual-compound Blizzaks, where they have ultra-grippy snow rubber on the first 40% (or something) of the tread and regular snow-tire rubber on the rest.

thanks:)

[trd2343]

How are the Goodyear Nordic from Canadian Tire? Are they sufficient for a 2004 Toyota Sienna? This is for daily driving between Richmond and Vancouver during the winters.

CanadianDriver gave it a decent review, and the price seems pretty good.


Thanks.

[kookoobird88]

porn is great if you ask me

[roastpuff]

How are the Goodyear Nordic from Canadian Tire? Are they sufficient for a 2004 Toyota Sienna? This is for daily driving between Richmond and Vancouver during the winters.

CanadianDriver gave it a decent review, and the price seems pretty good.


Thanks.

Never tried it, though I'm interested in using it or the General Altimax Arctic on the CSX this winter. Reviews are pretty positive however, and some snow tire is better than no snow tire. Though... I'll probably end up with performance winters on it or something (Blizzak LM-25 or Pilot Alpin PA3 or something) as it will mostly see dry roads and if it gets bad enough I'll only take the Odyssey out wearing Blizzaks.

[!SG]

lets see

i had toyo observes on the prelude, loved them.

i have nokian WR's on the highlander, they ok, good in snow, but well having wear issues right now with them.

i had bridgestone blizzak ws-50s on my stock 16s on my GS. sold those not too long ago, loved them.

i now have bridgestone lm-25's, so wont know how good they are until i try them out =) but tread pattern looks ok.

[jlenko]

How are the Bridgestone Blizzaks in the winter?

My wife had a set of those on her old Neon, man that car never got stuck!! Made it up and down Cypress all winter long, even when AWD cars and SUVs were getting stuck in the snow...

I have a set of Nexen-brand cheap (read: Walmart) winter tires for my DD Cavalier.. they're alright I suppose... way better than all-seasons, but I did get stuck one day trying to get up an icy hill, til I turned the car around and backed up it instead. The Bridgestones were much better all around, but they weren't as cheap.

[Shun Izaki]

here's something really crappy...

i have blizzakws-60's which rock... on all 4 of my stock wheels, but my b-pipe runs along dragging every chunk of snow more than a few inches off the ground, or i'd be clear, even in the side streets.. i wonder if i could build some awesome shielding for it.

[TypeRNammer]

I picked up a set of nokian hakkapeliitta r's but they sure weren't cheap! =(

Plus hunting down for winter tires now is a pain in the ass, too much demand, and too damn pricey.

[!Aznboi128]

let me ask you guys a question....

I got a set of hankooks w440 right now on my Accord. Thread's still good but they aren't that great. Should I get myself a set of ws-60?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

yes

[spoon.ek9]

haven't used snow tires in 8 years of driving. buying my first set this season, i'll see what the difference is :D

[Iceman-19]

it better fucking snow. i am buying a diesel truck this weekend because of that reason. if it is just rain, i will be pissed, because i would have bought a supercharged or turbocharged mustang instead.

[roastpuff]

Should be ok. What is remaining tread depth?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

it better fucking snow. i am buying a diesel truck this weekend because of that reason. if it is just rain, i will be pissed, because i would have bought a supercharged or turbocharged mustang instead.

thought some genius said its gonna be mild winter this year

[orange7]

porn is great if you ask me

+1

[Gh0stRider]

General Altimax Arctic?

[Soundy]

I picked up a set of nokian hakkapeliitta r's but they sure weren't cheap! =(

Plus hunting down for winter tires now is a pain in the ass, too much demand, and too damn pricey.

You think they're hard to find now, wait until the first snow hits...

[ctsport]

Never tried it, though I'm interested in using it or the General Altimax Arctic on the CSX this winter.

I bought these for winter too, hope they're good! :D

[Drift_Monkey]

on a FWD vehicle, would you put the newer snow tires on the rear or on the front? I don't think there was a definitive answer in the thread that covered this topic.

Put the newer snow tires in the front for FWD. its better if you don't want to get stuck trying to climb a hill.

Thats what I'm doing b/c.

I can't fit the winters in the back because it will rub my fenders due lowering and rear camber kit. I'm just gonna put my 215/50/17 Falken 912 in the rear and 225/50/17 Bridgestones blizzaks in the front.

alternative would be to raise the car, or adjust for more negative camber in the rear, or roll the fenders and cuts tabs to fit all 4 winter tires.

[godwin]

eer no matter FWD or RWD.. always put snow tires on the rear Unless you are driving a rear engined car.

If you loose traction in the rear you will be in a spin (bad). And in if you only have snow tires up front on FWD, it is unrecoverable. With FWD, your front is always heavy, so you get more weight on the front for traction.

Always get snow tires in 4s.

Put the newer snow tires in the front for FWD. its better if you don't want to get stuck trying to climb a hill.

Thats what I'm doing b/c.

I can't fit the winters in the back because it will rub my fenders due lowering and rear camber kit. I'm just gonna put my 215/50/17 Falken 912 in the rear and 225/50/17 Bridgestones blizzaks in the front.

alternative would be to raise the car, or adjust for more negative camber in the rear, or roll the fenders and cuts tabs to fit all 4 winter tires.

[godwin]

It is a mild el nino year.

thought some genius said its gonna be mild winter this year

[thumper]

And in if you only have snow tires up front on FWD, it is unrecoverable. With FWD, your front is always heavy, so you get more weight on the front for traction.



i always could not understand that statement above. i know it's what the tire manufacturers recommend, but what is the point of doing it if your non-snow tires on the driven wheels have no traction and cannot move the car in the first place? there is nothing to recover from if the car is stuck to begin with :confused:

[godwin]

honestly a month ago.. tirerack had a huge sale.. 70 bucks for 17" was a deal.

If you get Nokians and you want a deal, get it in WA.. Kaltire has exclusive on Nokians in BC.. and they sell at MSRP.

I picked up a set of nokian hakkapeliitta r's but they sure weren't cheap! =(

Plus hunting down for winter tires now is a pain in the ass, too much demand, and too damn pricey.

[godwin]

If is fine if you are on a flat surface.. but imagine you on a slope... besides it is braking that causes the issue.. not so much of moving/traction.

i always could not understand that statement above. i know it's what the tire manufacturers recommend, but what is the point of doing it if your non-snow tires on the driven wheels have no traction and cannot move the car in the first place? there is nothing to recover from if the car is stuck to begin with :confused:

[SumAznGuy]

i always could not understand that statement above. i know it's what the tire manufacturers recommend, but what is the point of doing it if your non-snow tires on the driven wheels have no traction and cannot move the car in the first place? there is nothing to recover from if the car is stuck to begin with :confused:

You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.

[sonick]

I bought these for winter too, hope they're good! :D

+1, here too. Got a hot deal on them from Tirerack, $250 shipped to Pt. Roberts, and they charged me no duties and no taxes.

[thumper]

honestly a month ago.. tirerack had a huge sale.. 70 bucks for 17" was a deal.

If you get Nokians and you want a deal, get it in WA.. Kaltire has exclusive on Nokians in BC.. and they sell at MSRP.

this is true. i bought my nokians from WA. i can't remember the exact figure but i saved about $200cdn landed, even with the poor exchange rate at the time. kal tire was both heavily marked up and they also did not have stock for what i wanted.

[thumper]

You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.

icic... then what about tire chains? i'm not saying i do this myself, but i've seen people with snows in the back and tire chains in the front on an FWD car heading for the ski slopes.

[dinamix]

You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.


snow tires mounted on front axle (front wheel drive) - good acceleration, good steering, good braking. However, since the rear wheels have no lateral guidance, the rear end will come around. Not good. Feather your brakes. Go slow.

-bottom line. its fine to drive with 2 tires as long as you dont drive like an idiot

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

+1, here too. Got a hot deal on them from Tirerack, $250 shipped to Pt. Roberts, and they charged me no duties and no taxes.

why not? u just got lucky?

[sonick]

why not? u just got lucky?

Yeah pretty much... It was $204 USD for the tires, gave the guy my invoice from TireRack and just waved me through :haha:

[shenmecar]

Yeah pretty much... It was $204 USD for the tires, gave the guy my invoice from TireRack and just waved me through :haha:

Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

lucky basterd
:D

[SumAznGuy]

Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?

The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.
I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.

Google search both.

Not paying taxes and duties at Pt. Roberts is a first for me. I've ALWAYS been charged taxes on tires there. Blaine is where I get lucky at. Plus it's closer for me.

[sonick]

Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?

Yup, The Letter Carrier.

[SumAznGuy]

icic... then what about tire chains? i'm not saying i do this myself, but i've seen people with snows in the back and tire chains in the front on an FWD car heading for the ski slopes.

Tire chains technically only work in a straight line. They don't really help you turn, so drive wheels only *should* be fine but your rear brakes may lock up easier or throw the ABS into ice mode which could affect your braking.

[Soundy]

The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.

O NOZ!! Snow tires, exposed to the elements?! HORROR!!! :haha:

[Gh0stRider]

The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.
I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.

Google search both.

Not paying taxes and duties at Pt. Roberts is a first for me. I've ALWAYS been charged taxes on tires there. Blaine is where I get lucky at. Plus it's closer for me.

ya, i ship everything to blaine as well, then drive to a rest stop or bellis fair and throw away all the boxes..lol

[thumper]

O NOZ!! Snow tires, exposed to the elements?! HORROR!!! :haha:

well, not exactly. the last time i was stupid and stored unmounted tires outside uncovered, rainwater filled up the insides and it took me forever to mop up the mess before i could load them up into the car to get mounted on rims :(

[Soundy]

Are the tires not shipped in bags?

[SumAznGuy]

Are the tires not shipped in bags?

Obviously not, or else I wouldn't have said they were left out to the elements. Damn Noobs.

[Soundy]

All the tires I've ever got from Kal Tire came in their own sealed bags. You should buy tires from a decent shop :P

[hotjoint]

its gonna be mild this year, lots of rain :)

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

weak no parking lot drifting party than

[syee]

Are the tires not shipped in bags?

haha, nope. Tire rack pretty much tapes the shipping label to the tire and then bundles them in pairs with either tape or the plastic straps that you see on boxes and ships them out the door.

Tires should be OK exposed to the elements. They see much worse conditions mounted on your wheels. :D

[spydermanx]

I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.


FYI TSB is now open on Saturdays, 9am to 1pm.

[SumAznGuy]

FYI TSB is now open on Saturdays, 9am to 1pm.

Excellent. That is really good news. I like their facilities way better than TLC.

Last time I had tires shipped to TLC, there were spiders, and tree leaves all over the tires and even inside the tires. Luckily, all my tire pickups have been when it is dry. Wet tires would suck.

[SumAznGuy]

All the tires I've ever got from Kal Tire came in their own sealed bags. You should buy tires from a decent shop :P

More than likely, the tires were shipped naked or bound in pairs.

When they arrived at Kal Tire, the workers there bagged them for you and charged you the bagging fee in their outragously high prices. :rolleyes:

[Expresso]

FYI TSB is now open on Saturdays, 9am to 1pm.
TSB charges an extra $5/tire while TLC does not.