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Got a ticket in US today in a rental car...need some advice
bobyu
09-20-2009, 10:36 PM
So I was driving to the states today with my frd's rental car. It was in the morning with minimal traffic and I was driving around 85 Miles /h. Without noticing the undercop car next 2 lanes, he pulled me over right away and charged me excessive speeding.
Here is my question/concern, I know its best for me to pay the 210 US fine. But what is worse situation that could happen? They said if they pulled me over if im driving in the states again, it will become a criminal offense and my license will get suspended. Any drivers here with previous experiences that are similar? Of course i wont go thru the hassle of going to the court in US and stuff. But should I just leave it? Will they mail crap to my house here?! Like warning letters.
any input would be great guys!
Need some tips
My 1st time got a tix @ US:(
Razor Ramon HG
09-20-2009, 10:38 PM
They won't let you back in the US or something along the lines of that until you pay it.
LenovoTurbo
09-20-2009, 10:44 PM
If you show up at the border next time, you may get sent to jail. Just avoid the hassle and pay for it.
bartone
09-20-2009, 10:53 PM
pretty much customs will detain you at the border the next time you go down until you pay the fine.
bobyu
09-20-2009, 11:06 PM
If you show up at the border next time, you may get sent to jail. Just avoid the hassle and pay for it.
REally they wont even let you go thru?!
Wow the sheriff didnt mention that part for sure.:eek:
I keep thinking that I can go to US as long as i dont drive
Eastwood
09-20-2009, 11:09 PM
Thats what everyone thinks but the truth is nobody knows.
It seems whenever this question comes up its always a friend of a friend that got detained.
Either way I wouldnt pay it. Keep the money in Canada. Dont give the US government anything.
LenovoTurbo
09-20-2009, 11:18 PM
Either way I wouldnt pay it. Keep the money in Canada. Dont give the US government anything.
It's only if you decide to never step foot in US again.
Another thread like this in the police forum. http://www.revscene.net/forums/us-speeding-tickets-t587032.html
Up to you.
bobyu
09-20-2009, 11:24 PM
It's only if you decide to never step foot in US again.
Another thread like this in the police forum. http://www.revscene.net/forums/us-speeding-tickets-t587032.html
Up to you.
thanks. Guess its better to jus pay it off.
bcedhk
09-20-2009, 11:30 PM
YOU GO TO JAIL BAD BOY
Super Dipper
09-20-2009, 11:31 PM
my buddy just went through this hell. he thought he paid the ticket, payment didnt go through, plate was tagged, state trooper pulled him over, arrested him, put him in the back of the car, sat on the radio with dispatch for 20 mins, eventually let him go, but wasnt allowed to drive in the states, had to have his gf drive the car back over the border to vancouver where he had to call in to pay the ticket again and get the BS sorted out and i believe all is well and sorted out, but just pay the ticket right away and get it over with.
bobyu
09-20-2009, 11:32 PM
anyone know how to check the if the payment went thru? To ensure what super dipper said would not happen
hk20000
09-20-2009, 11:33 PM
85mph on a 70mph highway is excessive speeding? What?
LenovoTurbo
09-20-2009, 11:35 PM
anyone know how to check the if the payment went thru? To ensure what super dipper said would not happen
Look behind the ticket to see if there is a number you can call to ask questions on payment of the ticket. If not, make a copy of your payment.
Harvey Specter
09-20-2009, 11:41 PM
Where in the US did you get the ticket? You can always dispute it if it's too much money.
85mph on a 70mph highway is excessive speeding? What?
i think some parts are 60mph zone.. i got pulled over once for driving at about 85mph as well
TheKingdom2000
09-21-2009, 12:19 AM
pay it.
my friend got a ticket.. didn't pay it.
then he got fined for not paying it.. a $200 ticket become close to $400...
just pay it.
easy come easy go
lexluthor09
09-21-2009, 12:41 AM
I had this happen to me earlier this year. I went down to the courthouse they stated on the back and disputed it for a lower amount.
Basically the cop told me I either dispute it or pay it, if I didn't I wouldn't be allowed in the country.
achiam
09-21-2009, 01:02 AM
Thats what everyone thinks but the truth is nobody knows.
It seems whenever this question comes up its always a friend of a friend that got detained.
Either way I wouldnt pay it. Keep the money in Canada. Dont give the US government anything.
Only if your friend will NEVER EVER EVER set foot on US soil. My friend was transferring planes in DC and was detained by Customs due to an unpaid speeding ticket. He obviously missed his plane over a trivial $xxx which he had decided not to pay x years ago.
Save yourself the hassle, and more importantly your friend's.
bengy
09-21-2009, 02:27 AM
^ LOL
Yeah, you can still go to the States if you get a ticket there. You just can't drive in the state that you got the ticket in if you don't pay it. I work with people who have gotten tickets and they're still travelling to the US ;)
bobyu
09-21-2009, 07:41 AM
^ LOL
Yeah, you can still go to the States if you get a ticket there. You just can't drive in the state that you got the ticket in if you don't pay it. I work with people who have gotten tickets and they're still travelling to the US ;)
i gues they're lucky they didnt get handcuff yet :)
pay it and next time you visit seattle again, just step in the casino put $300 bucks in 1 hand bacarrat..
U might get lucky and profit $ 100 for your ooutlet shopping spree..
i did it once, and i end up lost everything... so basically i paid over $1000 for my speed ticket... but you never know... i am known for shit luck :D
falcon
09-21-2009, 08:51 AM
REally they wont even let you go thru?!
Wow the sheriff didnt mention that part for sure.:eek:
I keep thinking that I can go to US as long as i dont drive
just pay the damn thing.
you were speeding, buck up.
If you don't pay it, a bench warrant will be issued and if you are caught in the USA again your vacation plans will be put on hold for a nice little stay in jail.
hotjoint
09-21-2009, 09:01 AM
pay it
bobyu
09-21-2009, 09:35 AM
now here is my question, They said i must respond to this place skagit country district court at this location. Does that mean my chq or money order is payable to them? To the court? It doesnt say who its payable to in the front or back.
7seven
09-21-2009, 10:56 AM
now here is my question, They said i must respond to this place skagit country district court at this location. Does that mean my chq or money order is payable to them? To the court? It doesnt say who its payable to in the front or back.
You make it payable to the district court, so in this case, Skagit.
In the US, when a peace officer issues you a ticket and you sign it, you are promising either to pay it or go to court to dispute it. So if you don't pay the fine or attend court, the courts can charge you with "contempt of court" or "failure to pay a fine." If that happens, the court can charge you with a misdemeanor and issue a warrant for your arrest and add an additional fee (called a "civil assessment") of up to $250.
Richmond69er
09-21-2009, 11:05 AM
I got a ticket on my way to LA...
i was going about 100mph in the 70 zone... BIG ticket....
i decided i didnt want to pay it and brushed it off... eventually i forgot about it until one day i got a letter in the mail. said my ticket has been pardoned... so i lucked out.
I had a warrant for my arrest due to not paying a speeding ticket. I never went to the US for the longest of time. Never had a reason to. After letting it go for nearly ten years, I went across the border and asked if I was on any record. I know, I know....... I took a huge chance. I was told the warrant was erased. I guess there is a time limit, but are you going to take that chance? I was darn lucky. I could have been hauled off to jail.. some American ass rape.
Nintensity
09-21-2009, 11:17 AM
that's 136km per hour.... wtf were you thinking..
dizzystar
09-21-2009, 11:24 AM
well what you could do about it is stop excessively speeding like a fucking douchebag on the highway, either that or get killed in your rental car the next time you do it.
either way, we win.
J____
09-21-2009, 11:44 AM
um...... no.
They wont detain you at the border. I go back and forth to and from the States all the time. Have 3 outstanding tickets in various states. They dont detain you at the border, don't know where you guys get that. Only thing is if you fail to pay, you're supposed to show up in court, when you don't they apparently put out a warrant for ur arrest and/or ban you from driving there. So... if you get pulled over again in the same state, they can impound the car ur in and throw u in jail until u pay up. I have not tested that theory as i havent got pulled over again in a state where i had an outstanding ticket. I had an outstanding ticket in Oregon so I'm banned from driving there, but this time I was in Tenessee and got pulled over again for speeding, but either nothing showed up in regards to my Oregon ticket or they didn't care, as the officer didnt mention anything about it nor was i thrown in jail. Now state to state relationships in regards to traffic tickets vary dependent on the state, so maybe if i get pulled over in washington and have an Oregon outstanding ticket, i might get jailed, who knows.
One more thing is after a certain period of time, you might find a local vancouver collections agency like Wiggins would buy out your US outstanding ticket and try to collect from you. When that happens, it is said that technically you no longer have a ban in driving there nor a record of unpaid ticket, since Wiggins paid it for you (but now is trying to collect from you). So therefore you can drive there, get pulled over again and not have to worry about going to jail. Again this isn't confirmed or tested, however, a friend of mine had that happen in washington where he didnt pay his speeding ticket, 5 years later Wiggins sent him a letter about the collection, then after he got that notice he was pulled over AGAIN in washington, but they no longer had a record of unpaid ticket nor did he go to jail. In the end, you be the verdict if this is true or not. But getting detained at the border for unpaid ticket? I doubt that will happen.
You can pay online most of the time as well. I paid all my Florida tickets as it's such a nice state and chance are i'll be going down there again within the next 10 years, but for places like Ohio or Nebraska? no way I'm paying those haha. Oh btw, in Montana, if you get pulled over and get ticketed, the cop makes you pay on the spot if he sees you have a foreign drivers license. If you say you dont have cash, they'll follow you to an ATM for you to withdraw cash. HAHA that's so sketchy, but i guess they know you're not going to pay up otherwise.
Get a V1 if you plan on driving in the states. It's saved me countless number of times, only time i got ticketed since i've had it was when i was paced by an undercover cop car and this recent time when i didnt have it haha. Some states it's illegal to use, but apparently a trick for that if your really paranoid is keep an addressed and stamped file envelop with you, when time comes throw the radar into the envelope and seal it. Legally they can't open a sealed letter so they cant prove ur using a radar detector. Again i havent tested that one haha.
Now before some of you ethugs flame me for speeding, endangering others blah blah, i only speed if it's safe to do so, ie open highway not much traffic, and follow the pass on left keep on right rule. When there's heavy traffic or unsafe conditions i always drive safely, the only life im endagering is myself, so fuk off =P
falcon
09-21-2009, 11:47 AM
um...... no.
they wont detain you at the border. I go back and forth to and from the States all the time. Have 3 outstanding tickets in various states. They dont detain you at the border, don't know where you guys get that. Only thing is if you fail to pay, you're supposed to show up in court, when you don't they apparently put out a warrant for ur arrest and/or ban you from driving there. So... if you get pulled over again in the same state, they can impound the car ur in and throw u in jail until u pay up. I have not tested that theory as i havent got pulled over again in a state where i had an outstanding ticket. I had an outstanding ticket in Oregon so I'm banned from driving there, but this time I was in Tenessee and got pulled over again for speeding, but either nothing showed up in regards to my Oregon ticket or they didn't care, as the officer didnt mention anything about it nor was i thrown in jail. Now state to state relationships in regards to traffic tickets vary dependent on the state, so maybe if i get pulled over in washington and have an Oregon outstanding ticket, i might get jailed, who knows.
One more thing is after a certain period of time, you might find a local vancouver collections agency like Wiggins would buy out your US outstanding ticket and try to collect from you. When that happens, it is said that technically you no longer have a ban in driving there nor a record of unpaid ticket, since Wiggins paid it for you (but now is trying to collect from you). So therefore you can drive there, get pulled over again and not have to worry about going to jail. Again this isn't confirmed or tested, however, a friend of mine had that happen in washington where he didnt pay his speeding ticket, 5 years later Wiggins sent him a letter about the collection, then after he got that notice he was pulled over AGAIN in washington, but they no longer had a record of unpaid ticket nor did he go to jail. In the end, you be the verdict if this is true or not. But getting detained at the border for unpaid ticket? no that wont happen.
no one said anything about being detained at the border. the border dosen't care.
if you have an open warrant (which YOU WILL if you don't pay it) next time you are pulled over or go through a road block, you WILL go to jail.
J____
09-21-2009, 12:41 PM
no one said anything about being detained at the border. the border dosen't care.
If you show up at the border next time, you may get sent to jail. Just avoid the hassle and pay for it.
They won't let you back in the US or something along the lines of that until you pay it.
pretty much customs will detain you at the border the next time you go down until you pay the fine.
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ShortStack
09-21-2009, 04:01 PM
You pay the court at the bottom.
Make sure you send it REGISTERED MAIL, that way they have to sign for it! (as mail seems to uh get lost) I think it also gets there faster.
Make sure you send a US Fund Bank Draft (any bank can do that), that way theres no chance of it bouncing and you have proof of it.
Make COPIES of the ticket before you send it, keep the draft and registered mail receipts. Registered mail can also be tracked via the internet!
:)
Remember if you decide to fight it, you have to drive all the way back down to their court, which is A. fuel $ and B. their schedule (so could mean a work day, minus pay)
Just buck up and pay it. You only have 15 days to decide.
I just paid one, my first ever ticket and I wasn't even speeding. I was just from BC and those were his first words out of his mouth too. He also said I was speeding (even though I thought I was doing the speed limit and cars were passing me) but then dropped the ticket to 5 over :rolleyes: So I just sent it in.
CounterPuncher
09-21-2009, 04:33 PM
They won't let you back in the US or something along the lines of that until you pay it.
It's state controlled.
If he got it in Washington and he refuses to pay it/doesn't dispute it a warrant will be made for his arrest and he will be thrown in the slammer the next time he tries to cross the border into Washington.
CounterPuncher
09-21-2009, 04:34 PM
REally they wont even let you go thru?!
Wow the sheriff didnt mention that part for sure.:eek:
I keep thinking that I can go to US as long as i dont drive
You schmuck, it's just like up here. If you don't pay your tickets, next time a cop runs your plates or checks your ID even if they aren't pulling you over for that particular reason you will be detained.
CounterPuncher
09-21-2009, 04:35 PM
um...... no.
They wont detain you at the border. I go back and forth to and from the States all the time. Have 3 outstanding tickets in various states. They dont detain you at the border, don't know where you guys get that. Only thing is if you fail to pay, you're supposed to show up in court, when you don't they apparently put out a warrant for ur arrest and/or ban you from driving there. So... if you get pulled over again in the same state, they can impound the car ur in and throw u in jail until u pay up. I have not tested that theory as i havent got pulled over again in a state where i had an outstanding ticket. I had an outstanding ticket in Oregon so I'm banned from driving there, but this time I was in Tenessee and got pulled over again for speeding, but either nothing showed up in regards to my Oregon ticket or they didn't care, as the officer didnt mention anything about it nor was i thrown in jail. Now state to state relationships in regards to traffic tickets vary dependent on the state, so maybe if i get pulled over in washington and have an Oregon outstanding ticket, i might get jailed, who knows.
One more thing is after a certain period of time, you might find a local vancouver collections agency like Wiggins would buy out your US outstanding ticket and try to collect from you. When that happens, it is said that technically you no longer have a ban in driving there nor a record of unpaid ticket, since Wiggins paid it for you (but now is trying to collect from you). So therefore you can drive there, get pulled over again and not have to worry about going to jail. Again this isn't confirmed or tested, however, a friend of mine had that happen in washington where he didnt pay his speeding ticket, 5 years later Wiggins sent him a letter about the collection, then after he got that notice he was pulled over AGAIN in washington, but they no longer had a record of unpaid ticket nor did he go to jail. In the end, you be the verdict if this is true or not. But getting detained at the border for unpaid ticket? I doubt that will happen.
You can pay online most of the time as well. I paid all my Florida tickets as it's such a nice state and chance are i'll be going down there again within the next 10 years, but for places like Ohio or Nebraska? no way I'm paying those haha. Oh btw, in Montana, if you get pulled over and get ticketed, the cop makes you pay on the spot if he sees you have a foreign drivers license. If you say you dont have cash, they'll follow you to an ATM for you to withdraw cash. HAHA that's so sketchy, but i guess they know you're not going to pay up otherwise.
Get a V1 if you plan on driving in the states. It's saved me countless number of times, only time i got ticketed since i've had it was when i was paced by an undercover cop car and this recent time when i didnt have it haha. Some states it's illegal to use, but apparently a trick for that if your really paranoid is keep an addressed and stamped file envelop with you, when time comes throw the radar into the envelope and seal it. Legally they can't open a sealed letter so they cant prove ur using a radar detector. Again i havent tested that one haha.
Now before some of you ethugs flame me for speeding, endangering others blah blah, i only speed if it's safe to do so, ie open highway not much traffic, and follow the pass on left keep on right rule. When there's heavy traffic or unsafe conditions i always drive safely, the only life im endagering is myself, so fuk off =P
If you get pulled over in that state, or if you have one in Washington and they have issued a warrant for your arrest you will be detained by sherrifs at the border.
PS. We don't want your fucking life story.
Ferra
09-21-2009, 08:24 PM
that's 136km per hour.... wtf were you thinking..
lol....it's only 136km/h.
136km/h is not fast at all for a 3 lanes+ (per direction) hwy.
I can't recall a single day in the past 3 years I didn't go past 130km/h. (i live in toronto and take hwy to and from work everyday) Speed limit is 100km/h, traffic is at least 120km/h+.
Back on topic. Did the cop get your citizenship ID? If not, just use your citizenship ID when you cross the border. If they ask you for driver license, tell them you don't have one?
Or go to the MTO and tell them you lost your license so they can issue u a new one? (with new license #?)
asian_XL
09-21-2009, 09:22 PM
Here's my story
1) Rental car...got ticketed and didn't pay
2) 10 warning letters with explicit warnings like "national warrant" etc
3) my parents pissed their pants, ask our lawyer for advices. Lawyer said as long as I don't get pulled over again or commit any other offense, I am fine.
4) Ticket paid.
jlo mein
09-21-2009, 09:32 PM
in Montana, if you get pulled over and get ticketed, the cop makes you pay on the spot if he sees you have a foreign drivers license. If you say you dont have cash, they'll follow you to an ATM for you to withdraw cash. HAHA that's so sketchy, but i guess they know you're not going to pay up otherwise.
You cannot be detained for a speeding ticket (without any other reasonable causes for arrest). Officers are also not allowed to search your vehicle or your body without your consent or a warrant (besides an external patdown for weapons or drugs). Being pulled over for speeding does not validate a warrant. Through these freedoms of the US Bill of Rights, I don't see how an officer can force you to pay on the spot.
Mugen EvOlutioN
09-21-2009, 09:39 PM
i think some parts are 60mph zone.. i got pulled over once for driving at about 85mph as well
god damn street ricers
you gotta pay it.. or else u will have trouble if you go to the states next time.
bobyu
09-21-2009, 10:25 PM
anyways.. paid the tickets..
NExt time when you decide to speed up in 3 lanes road. Make sure there is no undercop.
Simply said, I pretty much got owned
orange7
09-21-2009, 11:11 PM
So I was driving to the states today with my frd's rental car. It was in the morning with minimal traffic and I was driving around 85 Miles /h. Without noticing the undercop car next 2 lanes, he pulled me over right away and charged me excessive speeding.
Here is my question/concern, I know its best for me to pay the 210 US fine. But what is worse situation that could happen? They said if they pulled me over if im driving in the states again, it will become a criminal offense and my license will get suspended. Any drivers here with previous experiences that are similar? Of course i wont go thru the hassle of going to the court in US and stuff. But should I just leave it? Will they mail crap to my house here?! Like warning letters.
any input would be great guys!
Need some tips
My 1st time got a tix @ US:(
Just pay the fine. It will save you a lot of trouble. If you can afford to drive down to the state, then you should be able to afford a 210 USD fine.
Tell me now, how much is the shirt you're wearing right now?
Dan_Guy
09-21-2009, 11:56 PM
My brother got a ticket in Oregon 2 years ago.
Did not pay it.
Tried to go to Seattle the other month. Detained at boarder. A cop came, gave him another ticket for driving without a license ( since he didn't pay the ticket, his license got revoked ). And gave him a court date.
Cop said he was being nice and could've thrown him in jail.
In court public defender asked the judge if he could just pay for the tickets and a fine and not go to jail for 6 months. Judged agreed.
Pay your ticket.
J____
09-22-2009, 02:19 AM
You cannot be detained for a speeding ticket (without any other reasonable causes for arrest). Officers are also not allowed to search your vehicle or your body without your consent or a warrant (besides an external patdown for weapons or drugs). Being pulled over for speeding does not validate a warrant. Through these freedoms of the US Bill of Rights, I don't see how an officer can force you to pay on the spot.
ya i didnt think much of it so the guy followed me to an atm and i payed him. Like i said, kinda sketch haha
bengy
09-22-2009, 06:21 AM
ya i didnt think much of it so the guy followed me to an atm and i payed him. Like i said, kinda sketch haha
Same happened to a co-worker of mine. Had to pay the ticket on the spot / drive to and ATM. The thing is, you don't really want to argue with an American cop, especially when you're in the wrong ;)
Tim Budong
09-22-2009, 10:34 AM
just pay the ticket and dont bother with these cross border laws and speculations to avoid ALL troubles
sometimes, i buckle up, admit my fault for speeding HERE and dont dispute simply becuz there are times when its not worth the trouble.
Armani Exchange
09-30-2009, 03:41 AM
i got one too today at 3:30 in the morning. fcuking pissed off $231 U.S for speeding in construction zone
SkinnyPupp
09-30-2009, 04:24 AM
Here's some advice:
You do the crime, you pay the time. In this case it's a fee, so feel lucky.
El Bastardo
09-30-2009, 04:34 AM
Next time just keep driving. The cops can't chase you across the border. You can outrun 'em, buddy.
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