[penner2k]

Not sure which CLS it was but there was one racing at Mission last night. Thing was fast and LOUD. One of the louder cars there.

I know the chances of getting any info about this car are slim but does anyone know what has been done to it?

[Jackygor]

Was it white? Was it CLS 55 AMG?

[WHEYsted]

Give more of a descripton of what you saw...

[penner2k]

I only saw it from a distance.. Not sure if its there often or not.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

probably AMG model with slight tune?


those thiings are SICKKK

[Supafly]

Not sure which CLS it was but there was one racing at Mission last night. Thing was fast and LOUD. One of the louder cars there.

I know the chances of getting any info about this car are slim but does anyone know what has been done to it?

theres a few of us that rip it up at mission...i think i know who it maybe... he is on here.

White CLS 55 amg...

[Death2Theft]

How about the fricken et mph ?

[jeff_alexander]

I think it's JikJak

[Harvey Specter]

Another member on here has a white CLS55.

[MDMA]

might be my buddy, hes on here, white cls55 amg,

[poh]

i saw it too it is white and i think it is AMG. he was running race gas.

[ssonss1]

might be my buddy, hes on here, white cls55 amg,

not me...definitely jikjak...hes got alot of mods...pulley, headers, intake, tune and so on...

heres him running not too long ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1x2uoRDbt0

[Leopold Stotch]

i saw him last night as welll

was def fast, 12.XX probably the same guy as the one in the video above

[Andy@advmotors]

That is one of our customers cars at Advance Motorsport. We have done all the mechanical work on this car. Last night the car was able to do 11.85 in the 1/4 mile with slicks. Due to the dew point being so high we were only able to get a few runs in before they closed early. We were able to pull of a decent launch with the 11.85 run. We just recently upgraded the car to a new larger pulley and put in a custom heat exchanger to help the car breathe better. It was ran un-tuned on friday night and he put down a time of high 11's. The problem we first had was traction, even with racing slicks we still had traction problems. We are just fine tuning the launch and we hope to be in the mid to low 11's. We are flying up a tuner tomorrow to help with some of the tuning issues and we will be back at the drag strip next week hopefully the weather holds up for us! This car is running in the ~600 crank hp area. We hope to be bumping up that HP soon enough! Hope to see you guys in mission!


Andy

www.advmotors.com

[JikJak]

that you tube vid was from last month and on street tires.
a couple weeks ago i ran 12.073@120.11mph but with a 1.955 60'.
i sure wish more euros would show up at mission!

last night i was able to run an 11.853@115.96mph. i was using pump gas but i did buy a jug of race gas so that i can get a race gas tune made. i had a pretty decent launch with a 1.803 60' time. ( i think my car was pulling timing though as my trap speed was quite low, (i usually trap at around 120mph) this is due to the larger pulley that was recently installed. i wanted to run my previous pulley but i had to have this one installed as the guys from Powerchip are flying in tomorrow and ill have a custom dyno tune done on monday, they are going to flash my truck as well! ill definitely do more runs after that. if anyone wants a powerchip flash let me or andy know as they will be doing some flashes at advance on tuesday.

anyways i do want to thank the guys at advance for their great work, especially the custom fabrications they do. they make my car faster each time i go to the strip!

[penner2k]

I wish I saw more cars like yours down there.

[cdizzle_996]

Your trap speed will also be lower when hooking up better off the line. I was trapping 117 on street tires, and running quicker times and trapping 112.

[platinum300]

The white CLS lost to a early '90s Talon that did 11.6X.

[TouringTeg]

Sweet ass car to take to the track! Good luck with your times.

[b-dub]

The white CLS lost to a early '90s Talon that did 11.6X.

I don't get what your point is? Are you saying the CLS time is slow?

If so, there are alot of dedicated drag cars that can beat that time, just depends how much you want to spend on the car, how much traction you can get and how much power you can get out of the engine. Keep in mind that time in a CLS55 with full interior is ultra quick, you have to compare apples to apples not apples to oranges.

Stock CLS does high 12's to low 13's

[k20a]

The white CLS lost to a early '90s Talon that did 11.6X.

lol. Can you tell me how much that guy in the talon spent to run 11's? He obviously has more mods than the CLS.


and congrats to CLS, my friends told me there was a white one who ran 11's. hahah nice

[JikJak]

Your trap speed will also be lower when hooking up better off the line. I was trapping 117 on street tires, and running quicker times and trapping 112.

ya that happens often, but even on the other runs where i spun the tires a bit, i still trapped around 115mph, but previously i trapped around 119-120mph. i think the ecu is pulling timing due to the new mods. my custom tune is going down later on today! hope it fixes everything.

[JikJak]

i ran a 12.5 against the talon, but i was able to run an 11.8 a couple runs runs later. that was one fast talon though! he had a sick trap speed. i think it was around 130mph. i think that talon can get into the 10s if he got a good launch.

[JikJak]

Sweet ass car to take to the track! Good luck with your times.

thanks!
i hope to get into the low 11s next time.

i also hope that more euros show up to these drag nights.
im going to try to make it again this friday.

[cdizzle_996]

i ran a 12.5 against the talon, but i was able to run an 11.8 a couple runs runs later. that was one fast talon though! he had a sick trap speed. i think it was around 130mph. i think that talon can get into the 10s if he got a good launch.

Was it the black one?

If it was he was having problems getting off the line. If he could get the launch down that thing would be hella quick.

[Supafly]

The white CLS lost to a early '90s Talon that did 11.6X.

lol...you do know that a CLS is probably 3x the mass of a 4g63 talon...:haha:

[vo_hantu]

lol...you do know that a CLS is probably 3x the mass of a 4g63 talon...:haha:

and like 30x the price lol

[Inaii]

Was it the black one?

If it was he was having problems getting off the line. If he could get the launch down that thing would be hella quick.

As far as I know, there was only the black one there. Lots of quick cars at Mission on friday. Personally loved the 3 rotor FC from Forcefed.

[yvrnycracer]

how are they not requiring a cage on that car?!

Sounds sick! :thumbsup:

[cdizzle_996]

how are they not requiring a cage on that car?!

Sounds sick! :thumbsup:

On what car the CLS?

You don't need a cage until 11.49

[kuldud]

my jaw dropped when i heard the sound of that cls. it looked and sounded fast.

its one helluva luxury dragster. nice! real nice!

[Meowjin]

and like 30x the price lol

yeah but in the end you are still driving a talon.

[SumAznGuy]

On what car the CLS?

You don't need a cage until 11.49

So in other words right after his dyno tune with race gas. :thumbsup:

[k20a]

yeah but in the end you are still driving a talon.

Does it matter? lol. If you are into working on cars then who gives a shit. lol

As far as I know, there was only the black one there. Lots of quick cars at Mission on friday. Personally loved the 3 rotor FC from Forcefed.

Like brother like sister. LOL

[Leopold Stotch]

As far as I know, there was only the black one there. Lots of quick cars at Mission on friday. Personally loved the 3 rotor FC from Forcefed.

that thing scared me when it launched.

i thought my ears were going to explode

[kumbo1]

lol. Can you tell me how much that guy in the talon spent to run 11's? He obviously has more mods than the CLS.


and congrats to CLS, my friends told me there was a white one who ran 11's. hahah nice

A third of a price of a cls.

[kumbo1]

yeah but in the end you are still driving a talon.

And a dude that spent over a 100k on a car still lost......:thumbsup:

[!SG]

how can u even compare a purpose built talon to a fully loaded cls55 amg.

you are dumb if u even try, its like comparing econo class to business/exec class on a 15hr flight, sure ur on the same plane but u know the business/exec class if what everyone in the econ class is drooling after.

the cls is like 3 times more, but it is like 10 times more lux, and fully loaded, and probably has working a/c, and a full av system.

the talon, is purpose built, its built to go fast for that 1/4 mile, probably is stripped down to the metal, and has a roll cage, and the driver most likely even pinched a loaf in the washrooms right before to squeeze that 0.03 seconds off his time...

[Supafly]

And a dude that spent over a 100k on a car still lost......:thumbsup:

lol...some people on RS just make me laugh....keep in mind i'm not laughing with you....I'm laughing AT you.

[Jeffield]

lol....

700 torque is serious buisness

Congrats JikJak

Now you got to teach me how to launch and get some 11's

[kumbo1]

lol...some people on RS just make me laugh....keep in mind i'm not laughing with you....I'm laughing AT you.

Does it look like i give a rats ass that you laughing at me.

[kumbo1]

how can u even compare a purpose built talon to a fully loaded cls55 amg.

you are dumb if u even try, its like comparing econo class to business/exec class on a 15hr flight, sure ur on the same plane but u know the business/exec class if what everyone in the econ class is drooling after.

the cls is like 3 times more, but it is like 10 times more lux, and fully loaded, and probably has working a/c, and a full av system.

the talon, is purpose built, its built to go fast for that 1/4 mile, probably is stripped down to the metal, and has a roll cage, and the driver most likely even pinched a loaf in the washrooms right before to squeeze that 0.03 seconds off his time...
LOL pinched a loaf...I guess that shave some weight. I don't know how built that car is but, I was just defending the Talon when that other jackass said "It's still only a Talon" bit. Whatever.

[Jeffield]

LOL pinched a loaf...I guess that shave some weight. I don't know how built that car is but, I was just defending the Talon when that other jackass said "It's still only a Talon" bit. Whatever.

Because, someone's daily driver can almost do as good as someone's built drag racing car....

[JikJak]

its all good. winning or losing doesnt matter, as long as u have fun doing something u enjoy. that was a very fast talon and u gotta respect that. im betting it can hit 10s with a good launch. anyways, hopefully the weather is good this friday!

lets see some more euro cars out there as well!

[b-dub]

It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning.

[JikJak]

ok there mr fast and furious.
come out and win then.

[jeff_alexander]

It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning.

http://media.entertainment.sky.com/image/unscaled/2009/4/2/The-Fast-The-Furious-01.jpg

[b-dub]

ok there mr fast and furious.
come out and win then.

Be ready to have your ass handed to you, you're going to need more than that crotch rocket of yours...

GEEE TEEE ARRRO > all

http://www.gtrblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/paul-walker-and-vin-diesel-on-the-set-of-fast-and-furious1-540x392.jpg


:p;)

[JikJak]

im ready!

[Jeffield]

I wish I can do 12's :(

[Inaii]

Like brother like sister. LOL

Lol who do you think got me into rotaries in the first place? :p Also, that thing sounds like sex on wheels. Marko did an awesome job with it :D

that thing scared me when it launched. i thought my ears were going to explode

hahaha ya... we were parked next to Forcefed so every time it left, at least 2 of us had to have a minute to ourselves :haha:

[JikJak]

I wish I can do 12's :(

u can easily hit that jeffield.
come out this friday.

[Jeffield]

u can easily hit that jeffield.
come out this friday.


I dont think so =(

i m expecting 11's as well

high 11's

do i need a fking helmet?

[SumAznGuy]

I dont think so =(

i m expecting 11's as well

high 11's

do i need a fking helmet?


Anything faster than 13.99 requires a helmet, except for me. I'm in a vert so I need one even if I go 19.99.

[k20a]

A third of a price of a cls.

And a dude that spent over a 100k on a car still lost......:thumbsup:

Ok, but you have to admit anything faster than 12.2 is a fucking fast car. lol Whether the talon ran 11's, or cls ran 11's, 11 is a fucking fast car. You'd only know if you've been in one or driven one. Maybe the guy in the CLS just has money to spend like that, and still run 11's. lol Status and fame? You tell me.

Lol who do you think got me into rotaries in the first place? :p Also, that thing sounds like sex on wheels. Marko did an awesome job with it :D



hahaha ya... we were parked next to Forcefed so every time it left, at least 2 of us had to have a minute to ourselves :haha:

Was forcefed the blue one? My LS1 FD friend said he blew by him and couldn't catch up. LOL 20B FTW!!

[Jeffield]

Dude i wish i can hit 13's

fuck 11

lol

Also, why you guys got to hate on the CLS ? Seriously just because he has a fast car that you guys cant have, you have to hate and flame ?

[Meowjin]

cls is best looking merc ignore the trolls.

[threezero]

Dude i wish i can hit 13's

fuck 11

lol

Also, why you guys got to hate on the CLS ? Seriously just because he has a fast car that you guys cant have, you have to hate and flame ?

wrong jeffield, its not hate they are feeling its jealousy lol.

[Inaii]

Was forcefed the blue one? My LS1 FD friend said he blew by him and couldn't catch up. LOL 20B FTW!!

It was a black s4 fc, or dark coloured anyway. We got there just as the sun was setting so it was hard to see the actual colour.

[ssonss1]

i'll try to make it out this friday, see what a stock 55 can do:)

[1exotic]

It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning.

You never had me, you never had your car.

[Jeffield]

wrong jeffield, its not hate they are feeling its jealousy lol.




That is actually true

Who can do 12's should put their hand up.....

not that many

[cdizzle_996]

That is actually true

Who can do 12's should put their hand up.....

not that many


I can :)


On a side note, I want a E55 AMG.

[TheSalesman]

I hit 12's in my 4 cyl honda. NA and not in a gutted civic.
I think there were 2 white merc amg out there. Never really got to see because Im in the lineup usually.

[you!]

saw ur car last week good thing i didnt line up with u :lol

mrp has been horrible for the past couple of weeks, couldn't even get a decent launch with slicks:(

r u gonna be there again tonight?

[TheSalesman]

^ what are you talking about?
there were lots of people getting new PB's in the last few weeks and getting the best 60' times ever.

[JikJak]

i want to go there tonight but i not sure how the weather will be out there.
i guess ill play it by ear.

[b-dub]

i want to go there tonight but i not sure how the weather will be out there.
i guess ill play it by ear.


I'll see you in the desert next month, prepare to have your ass handed to you.

[you!]

^ what are you talking about?
there were lots of people getting new PB's in the last few weeks and getting the best 60' times ever.


yeh i also got a new pb on the 18th and a much better one on the 25th...but i was only able to get them between the first three runs; after that i just keep getting more and more wheelspin as it gets darker and the air gets damper

i was referring to the limited ability of pushing the car much more but it's much harder to do so because of the track conditions

neways anybody have any updates whether they're open tonight?

[Bender Unit]

excuse me, gentlemen.

What's the fastest way to go to Mission Race Track ?
Last time I was going Lougheed Hwy all the way from Vancouver South>New West>Coq.>Mission
any other way (with less traffic lights) ?

[SumAznGuy]

Hwy 1 and take the Sumas Exit but head north, not south. Cut through Abbyford to MRP but during rush hour, the traffic can/will be pretty bad and could take you over an hour to get to MRP from Vancouver.

[RacingGreed]

how can u even compare a purpose built talon to a fully loaded cls55 amg.

you are dumb if u even try, its like comparing econo class to business/exec class on a 15hr flight, sure ur on the same plane but u know the business/exec class if what everyone in the econ class is drooling after.

the cls is like 3 times more, but it is like 10 times more lux, and fully loaded, and probably has working a/c, and a full av system.

the talon, is purpose built, its built to go fast for that 1/4 mile, probably is stripped down to the metal, and has a roll cage, and the driver most likely even pinched a loaf in the washrooms right before to squeeze that 0.03 seconds off his time...

Actually the Talon is one of our customer cars and it's running a full interior with stock weight and is a streetcar. It is making 478awhp @ 28psi on pumpgas and meth. The transmission in the car is actually "blown" and doesn't go into the gears properly. The datalog was showing 1.6sec between shifts, so the turbo is loosing spool every gear change. With a clean pass the car should run mid 10's @ 136mph.

JikJaks car is sexy!!! He brought it to our shop this week for a dyno run. It put down 435rwhp which is around 600hp at the flywheel. Definately the ultimate luxury sport sedan:thumbsup:

[Initial Kei]

im ready!

After sitting inside your car numerous time, I can say this is just about the second to third slowest car I ever sat in Mr. BIG SHOT!

[!SG]

so did he pinch that loaf before that 1/4 mile?

i'll be in the washroom for weeks just to get my car into the 11s at its current state.

Actually the Talon is one of our customer cars and it's running a full interior with stock weight and is a streetcar. It is making 478awhp @ 28psi on pumpgas and meth. The transmission in the car is actually "blown" and doesn't go into the gears properly. The datalog was showing 1.6sec between shifts, so the turbo is loosing spool every gear change. With a clean pass the car should run mid 10's @ 136mph.

JikJaks car is sexy!!! He brought it to our shop this week for a dyno run. It put down 435rwhp which is around 600hp at the flywheel. Definately the ultimate luxury sport sedan:thumbsup:

[Initial Kei]

so did he pinch that loaf before that 1/4 mile?

i'll be in the washroom for weeks just to get my car into the 11s at its current state.


Buddy, your car is not meant to be for that. Keep it VIP

[!SG]

2jz, we will see. =)

Buddy, your car is not meant to be for that. Keep it VIP

[JikJak]

Actually the Talon is one of our customer cars and it's running a full interior with stock weight and is a streetcar. It is making 478awhp @ 28psi on pumpgas and meth. The transmission in the car is actually "blown" and doesn't go into the gears properly. The datalog was showing 1.6sec between shifts, so the turbo is loosing spool every gear change. With a clean pass the car should run mid 10's @ 136mph.

JikJaks car is sexy!!! He brought it to our shop this week for a dyno run. It put down 435rwhp which is around 600hp at the flywheel. Definately the ultimate luxury sport sedan:thumbsup:

thanks!
btw would it be possible to get records of my boost readings and afrs from that day that i dynoed are your shop?

[Muskys SS]

thanks!
btw would it be possible to get records of my boost readings and afrs from that day that i dynoed are your shop?

Sure, the boost didn't log properly but the AFR's did. You can come by and we'll print it out for you.

[JikJak]

ahh darn, i really wanted some boost readings :(
thanks though! ill swing by tomorrow when i go to advance. :)

[Iron Chef]

its a shame merc decided to ditch the 5.5 charger in favour of the 6.3 all motor.

[Meowjin]

...why? The 63 produces more hp. and probably more torque too. and is better on gas if anything.

[b-dub]

...why? The 63 produces more hp. and probably more torque too. and is better on gas if anything.

It's all marketing, if u go on mbworld.org and look at all the 1/4 times there, the 55 is faster than the 63 (stock vs stock). When you are talking about modded ones, FI > NA. You can make big gains from upgraded pulleys etc...

The 63 makes up for all that with the upgraded suspension etc.

[JikJak]

the 63 also has much less tq and its harder to get more power out of an NA car.
i definitely prefer that 55 engine over the 63.

anyone here make it to mission last friday? it ended early but there werent too many cars so the wait times were much shorter!

i managed to run 11.609@120.65mph

i need to work some issues out coz my traps are still too low :(

[impactX]

hehe do you really want to put a cage in your car? ;)

[Meowjin]

It's all marketing, if u go on mbworld.org and look at all the 1/4 times there, the 55 is faster than the 63 (stock vs stock). When you are talking about modded ones, FI > NA. You can make big gains from upgraded pulleys etc...

The 63 makes up for all that with the upgraded suspension etc.

who buys a cls to take to a track?

[Dtox89]

who buys a cls to take to a track?

...you running 11s?

[Z3guy]

55s are faster, but the 63s have the 7sp auto with a clutch Vs torque converter........the 63s are nicer overall performance vehicles....I find 63s handle much better than 55s.....

[Jeffield]

the 63 also has much less tq and its harder to get more power out of an NA car.
i definitely prefer that 55 engine over the 63.

anyone here make it to mission last friday? it ended early but there werent too many cars so the wait times were much shorter!

i managed to run 11.609@120.65mph

i need to work some issues out coz my traps are still too low :(


Thats why I got to TT or SC it :)

[JikJak]

hehe do you really want to put a cage in your car? ;)

haha nope, but i do want to get kicked out!

[Meowjin]

...you running 11s?

again who buys a cls to take to a track?

[Jeffield]

again who buys a cls to take to a track?

Who that can afford it

[Meowjin]

Who that can afford it

Ignoring the bad english, are you telling me that out of the 15 thousand cls's sold in the USA last year, everyone took them to the track.

[SumAznGuy]

Ignoring the bad english, are you telling me that out of the 15 thousand cls's sold in the USA last year, everyone took them to the track.

And what would you say if his answer was yes? :p

[Blinky]

Ignoring the bad english, are you telling me that out of the 15 thousand cls's sold in the USA last year, everyone took them to the track.

How many M3s or 911s do you think make it to the track?
:D

Actually screw that. The strip is not the track!

How many M3s or 911s do you think make it to the STRIP?

[Meowjin]

^^excactly.

[Initial Kei]

Sat in his car I think 3 nights ago

Fuck my neck still hurts from the crazy torque! I think I got a whiplash riding in your monster!

[ilvtofu]

Ignoring the bad english, are you telling me that out of the 15 thousand cls's sold in the USA last year, everyone took them to the track.

Your point is...?

[Jeffield]

Ignoring the bad english, are you telling me that out of the 15 thousand cls's sold in the USA last year, everyone took them to the track.



So? What is your point, so if someone bought a powerful car and would like to mod it and have fun with it you have to flame him?

Fuck, then someone is going to buy a lamborghini and drag it, this fucking talon beats him and you will give him shit?


ITS a fucking choice and its for fun, hell this is just for fun its not even for real

If JikJak was doing this for real and want to make a drag car, he will do it... but if he just wants to play with his CLS let him be.

Also the drag strip is just for fun, just let him do whatever he wants.

If you got a fucking problem with it, why dont you go build a fucking car to go drag and beat him.

[Inaii]

Lol, so much anger in this thread.

[Meowjin]

So? What is your point, so if someone bought a powerful car and would like to mod it and have fun with it you have to flame him?

Fuck, then someone is going to buy a lamborghini and drag it, this fucking talon beats him and you will give him shit?


ITS a fucking choice and its for fun, hell this is just for fun its not even for real

If JikJak was doing this for real and want to make a drag car, he will do it... but if he just wants to play with his CLS let him be.

Also the drag strip is just for fun, just let him do whatever he wants.

If you got a fucking problem with it, why dont you go build a fucking car to go drag and beat him.

your a fucking retard. I like the cls, and i don't care if it's taken to a track. My argument was with the 63 vs the 55 and that a majority of amg's never even see a track and its a luxury car therefore why the put the new engine in, instead of the twin turbo'd one. Better for a to b. maybe you should backtrack and read the whole thread.

[jeff_alexander]

http://www.crossroadforums.com/gallery2/d/331927-2/Thread-I_like_where_this_thread_is_.jpg

[Initial Kei]

Lol, so much anger in this thread.

Welcome to Revscene.

[Jeffield]

your a fucking retard. I like the cls, and i don't care if it's taken to a track. My argument was with the 63 vs the 55 and that a majority of amg's never even see a track and its a luxury car therefore why the put the new engine in, instead of the twin turbo'd one. Better for a to b. maybe you should backtrack and read the whole thread.


LOL

IF YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT MERCEDES THEN DONT EVEN BOTHER FUCKING POSTING ABOUT A MERCEDES


YES TWIN TURBO YES


GTFO, dont pretend you know shit about mercedes

Fucking Poser


EDIT :


Ignoring the bad english, are you telling me that out of the 15 thousand cls's sold in the USA last year, everyone took them to the track.



Also if you would like to make fun of my ESL please learn english your self first.


This test would be great for you:

http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz115704d41148.html


Here is how you do it

This is another common mistake of apostrophe use. "You're" is a contraction for "you are". It is easy enough to decipher, again just insert "you are" into your sentence instead of "you're" or "your" and you will know the correct usage.


Examples of "Your"
It is time for your medicine.

(It is time for you are medicine doesn't make sense.)

We will go to your play after we eat.

(We will go to you are play does not make sense.)
Examples of "You're"
You're going to be the first in line.

(You are going to be the first in line.)

You're my best friend.

(You are my best friend.)

[Meowjin]

Actually my bro owns a cls :) and either way the an NA engine with a 7 speed gear box will always be better more pleasant to drive in the city than a supercharged engine from point a to b.

[Jeffield]

Actually my bro owns a cls :) and either way the an NA engine with a 7 speed gear box will always be better more pleasant to drive in the city than a supercharged engine from point a to b.



Ignoring the bad english, are you telling me that out of the 15 thousand cls's sold in the USA last year, everyone took them to the track.



....

Again, you were making fun of people's english?

Jesus....

[Meowjin]

ching chong ching

[shenmecar]

SQUIRREL GOES WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JikJak]

now i remember why i stopped posting in RS.
there is no twin turbo V8 AMG, the 55 is a supercharged V8. the NA 63 engine could definitely benefit from a TT or s/c kit though!
as for driving the car around town, despite the power my car is making, it still drives like a luxury car. very smooth going from a to b in the city, u wouldnt even know notice the power and tq it has until u hit the gas pedal hard. much more pleasant than the underpowered NA v8 despite its 7speed tranny.

oh btw thanks for the english lessons jeffield. i got a laugh out of that!

now lets get back on topic and away from this other mess. i went down to the seattle drags with some of the guys from Advance Motorsport and we just got back last night. the S55 was able to hit 12.015@117.53 mph with a 60' of 2.146 if he is able to get his car to hook up better he would be in the 11s! pretty impressive for such a big car.

i was able to get a decent launch on my car with a 60' time of 1.795 and i managed to run 11.344@124.80 mph. the next couple of runs were also in the 11.3s. i need to perfect my launch now and try and hit the 1.6s mark and get the car even faster. it would be nice to hit 10s one day.

[Inaii]

Welcome to Revscene.

no need for a welcome :o I've been here for a while lol. I just find it amusing that people get worked up about the silliest things.

[Initial Kei]

So back on topic of CLS 63 vs CLS 55.

I am not sure which one is more pleasant to drive.

However, after having the opportunity of driving Jik's car for quite a few times now, I think his car is quite pleasant to drive.

I had driven so many different varieties of cars, from super exotics to civics with swap.

JIk's car is easily one of the cars that I enjoyed driving. I don't care if it is at 1500 rpm or 2000 rpm in 4th gear. I give it 1/4 gas and that mofo goes like stink!

The car makes so much power, it is freaking unbelievable. It is so fast, and the fact that I don’t have to do anything is simply awesome!

You can do 11.3 sec in a talon where you will have to do all the shifting and all the buzz here and there. Or you can do 11.3 sec in the ¼ mile pimping your way through it rolling with one hand on the steering wheel and have a gangster lean in the seat position lol.

Again with the CLS 63, I am sure it is a superb car to drive and expect nothing less. But power delivery will be nothing like it.

I am almost………actually I am certain that the CLS 63 will never have the same low end grunt like Jik’s 55.

Those that have driven cars like his will know what i am talking about. If you haven't...then Jik's 55 is in a whole different ball game.

So to conclude this, Jik’s 55 for the win!

[!SG]

the only twin turbo production amg that i ever heard of was the SL65 AMG. i think that thing pulled out 700+hp

now i remember why i stopped posting in RS.
there is now twin turbo AMG, the 55 is a supercharged V8. the NA 63 engine could definitely benefit from a TT or s/c kit though!
as for driving the car around town, despite the power my car is making, it still drives like a luxury car. very smooth going from a to b in the city, u wouldnt even know notice the power and tq it has until u hit the gas pedal hard. much more pleasant than the underpowered NA v8 despite its 7speed tranny.

oh btw thanks for the english lessons jeffield. i got a laugh out of that!

now lets get back on topic and away from this other mess. i went down to the seattle drags with some of the guys from Advance Motorsport and we just got back last night. the S55 was able to hit 12.015@117.53 mph with a 60' of 2.146 if he is able to get his car to hook up better he would be in the 11s! pretty impressive for such a big car.

i was able to get a decent launch on my car with a 60' time of 1.795 and i managed to run 11.344@124.80 mph. the next couple of runs were also in the 11.3s. i need to perfect my launch now and try and hit the 1.6s mark and get the car even faster. it would be nice to hit 10s one day.

[!SG]

got to sit passenger in a 63 today.

was a bit like "wait for it wait for it wait for it... ahh there we go, there's the torque!" its fast, but butt dyno didnt feel anything til it was way into 4000+ rpm

nothing gives u that butt dyno feel like a blower.

[JikJak]

the only twin turbo production amg that i ever heard of was the SL65 AMG. i think that thing pulled out 700+hp

my bad, i left out V8.

[!SG]

there you go! go turblow! hahaha! :thumbsup:

my bad, i left out V8.

[Z3guy]

So back on topic of CLS 63 vs CLS 55.

I am not sure which one is more pleasant to drive.

However, after having the opportunity of driving Jik's car for quite a few times now, I think his car is quite pleasant to drive.

I had driven so many different varieties of cars, from super exotics to civics with swap.

JIk's car is easily one of the cars that I enjoyed driving. I don't care if it is at 1500 rpm or 2000 rpm in 4th gear. I give it 1/4 gas and that mofo goes like stink!

The car makes so much power, it is freaking unbelievable. It is so fast, and the fact that I don’t have to do anything is simply awesome!

You can do 11.3 sec in a talon where you will have to do all the shifting and all the buzz here and there. Or you can do 11.3 sec in the ¼ mile pimping your way through it rolling with one hand on the steering wheel and have a gangster lean in the seat position lol.

Again with the CLS 63, I am sure it is a superb car to drive and expect nothing less. But power delivery will be nothing like it.

I am almost………actually I am certain that the CLS 63 will never have the same low end grunt like Jik’s 55.

Those that have driven cars like his will know what i am talking about. If you haven't...then Jik's 55 is in a whole different ball game.

So to conclude this, Jik’s 55 for the win!

There is no doubt that the CLS 55 is a refined vehicle with awesome FI power...no one is going to argue with you on that. I agree with your pts, always enjoyable to drive a car with a ton of torque.

If your goal is to take your car to the drag strip, the 55 is a better car than the 63. However, saying the 55 is a better overall vehicle than the 63 is not accurate. Sure you can get more power out of the 55, but the 63 handles better (updated susp), has a revised steering rack, and last but not least, the 7 speed clutched tranny. If you want a comfortable daily driver which you could take to track days, the 63 is the better car.....both great cars, but you can't beat technology......

[Jeffield]

the only twin turbo production amg that i ever heard of was the SL65 AMG. i think that thing pulled out 700+hp

S65, CL65, CL600, S600, SL600

All offer TwinTurbo as well

[Iron Chef]

sorry your wrong
MCT wet clutch is only available in the second gen SL63 and new W212 E63
everything else is standard torque converter
There is no doubt that the CLS 55 is a refined vehicle with awesome FI power...no one is going to argue with you on that. I agree with your pts, always enjoyable to drive a car with a ton of torque.

If your goal is to take your car to the drag strip, the 55 is a better car than the 63. However, saying the 55 is a better overall vehicle than the 63 is not accurate. Sure you can get more power out of the 55, but the 63 handles better (updated susp), has a revised steering rack, and last but not least, the 7 speed clutched tranny. If you want a comfortable daily driver which you could take to track days, the 63 is the better car.....both great cars, but you can't beat technology......

[Iron Chef]

For all out performance the 55 is the king hands down... but if you factor in other variables like driveability, fuel consumption, reliablility, cost of ownership, handling then the 63 wins hands down.

the 7 speed is a superior tranny in all aspects like shift quality, gear spacing, and performance. it just can't handle the torque that the 55 can produce.

ideally the ideal setup would be the 63 chassis and tranny with a 55 motor just on the sole basis for elimination of SBC.

the 63 motor is perfectly suited for the C class but feels alright in the bigger car's, they still haul ass but its just not the same feeling.

PS the 55 motor is based off a 10 year old designs so its technology is old school compared to the 63, but its pretty much bullet proof

[Iron Chef]

how does jikjaks seman taste in your mouth.
gtfo you geek unless you have something usefull to contribute to this thread other then riding his dick
So? What is your point, so if someone bought a powerful car and would like to mod it and have fun with it you have to flame him?

Fuck, then someone is going to buy a lamborghini and drag it, this fucking talon beats him and you will give him shit?


ITS a fucking choice and its for fun, hell this is just for fun its not even for real

If JikJak was doing this for real and want to make a drag car, he will do it... but if he just wants to play with his CLS let him be.

Also the drag strip is just for fun, just let him do whatever he wants.

If you got a fucking problem with it, why dont you go build a fucking car to go drag and beat him.

[Jeffield]

how does jikjaks seman taste in your mouth.
gtfo you geek unless you have something usefull to contribute to this thread other then riding his dick

LOL, what is wrong about agreeing to someone

He is a buddy and his car is absolutely amazing.

Just shut the fuck up.

[Initial Kei]

There is no doubt that the CLS 55 is a refined vehicle with awesome FI power...no one is going to argue with you on that. I agree with your pts, always enjoyable to drive a car with a ton of torque.

If your goal is to take your car to the drag strip, the 55 is a better car than the 63. However, saying the 55 is a better overall vehicle than the 63 is not accurate. Sure you can get more power out of the 55, but the 63 handles better (updated susp), has a revised steering rack, and last but not least, the 7 speed clutched tranny. If you want a comfortable daily driver which you could take to track days, the 63 is the better car.....both great cars, but you can't beat technology......

Well everyone can have their own preference and opinion so I am not arguing.

Fact of the matter is the CLS 63 is indeed a car with newer technologies. As you mentioned, though I didn’t know the updates to the revised suspension or steering, should improved the handling of the new CLS.

Despite the new updates this car isn’t going to handle like a sports car simply because its task is not set out to do so. Rather, this is a car set out to be comfortable, arrived in style, and run against some high power sports car on the highway/drag strip.

I am sure the improvement on the handling is noticeable, but it is not enough to compensate or replace the feeling of having raw power.

Maybe you can turn into a coner just a tad faster in the 63, but the feeling of reward making that perfect apex is not even CLOSE of say…..80-240 in three blinks of an eye. Though I can’t say I have done it but I can say with some certainly that it most likely can.

Jik’s 55 in terms of straight line all out run, is easily comparable to most of the exotics out there. This car is meant to go in a straight line. The CLS was never meant to make a perfect apex.

This is the sole reason why I concluded Jik’s 55 is a better car over all. The 55 might sacrifice the driving improvement or even the fuel economy, but blowing the doors off a F430 on the hwy is far more rewarding better than trying to keep up in the turns.

Well at least if he was behind the wheels, it can't be done. But if it was me behind the wheel, we might have a chance, right Jik? LOL LOL

[JikJak]

wow so much hostility on the boards. everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

after having driven both cls55 and the 63 i dont find much difference in handling. i think the major advantage of the 63 would be its lower tq numbers which would make it easier to keep the car more balanced. if i thought the cls63 was a better overall car i would have traded the 55 in for one. i did enjoy the higher rev limit and longer legs on the 63 but other than that i wasnt happy with it.

as for reliability, that has yet to be determined. both engines are solid. the chassis, fuel consumption and cost of ownership is about the same in both cars. the 7speed is nice and would be awesome to have in the 55, too bad its not strong enough to handle the torque. this car needs torque to get moving since it is quite heavy and its nice that the 55 makes a lot of it. especially after modding.

in the end this car will never be a track car, its just too big and heavy, it sure does well in the drags though. if u want an AMG for track days then u gotta go with the C63.

Jeffield i expect to see u in the 11s next drag season! too bad u didnt make it to the seattle drag day. i think u would have been able to beat that MHP modded C63!

[Meowjin]

:lol:

[Jeffield]

wow so much hostility on the boards. everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

after having driven both cls55 and the 63 i dont find much difference in handling. i think the major advantage of the 63 would be its lower tq numbers which would make it easier to keep the car more balanced. if i thought the cls63 was a better overall car i would have traded the 55 in for one. i did enjoy the higher rev limit and longer legs on the 63 but other than that i wasnt happy with it.

as for reliability, that has yet to be determined. both engines are solid. the chassis, fuel consumption and cost of ownership is about the same in both cars. the 7speed is nice and would be awesome to have in the 55, too bad its not strong enough to handle the torque. this car needs torque to get moving since it is quite heavy and its nice that the 55 makes a lot of it. especially after modding.

in the end this car will never be a track car, its just too big and heavy, it sure does well in the drags though. if u want an AMG for track days then u gotta go with the C63.

Jeffield i expect to see u in the 11s next drag season! too bad u didnt make it to the seattle drag day. i think u would have been able to beat that MHP modded C63!



I am expecting 11's actually high 11's tho
hmm, what did the MHP C63 run?

[JikJak]

12.7 he never got a good launch though

[Jeffield]

Hmm what was he modded tho? Just chip?

i want a chance

[JikJak]

u can probably hit 11s with a good launch.

he has lots of mods.

C63 V1 3.864, 19" Multi Spokes, 35% F1 Tint, KW V3 Coilovers, Front Strut Brace, Carbon Fiber Airbox, MHP V3 ECU/TCU, Long Tube Headers, Mids and High Flow Cats

[Jeffield]

u can probably hit 11s with a good launch.

he has lots of mods.

C63 V1 3.864, 19" Multi Spokes, 35% F1 Tint, KW V3 Coilovers, Front Strut Brace, Carbon Fiber Airbox, MHP V3 ECU/TCU, Long Tube Headers, Mids and High Flow Cats

wow with those mods and he hit that crap time? =/

[JikJak]

like i said, its all about the launch.
if he improves his launch he should run some good times.

[Jeffield]

I know :)

But our car hits 12.5 stock

[JikJak]

it can hit 14s stock as well if u cant launch it. his times that day arent a reflection of what the car can truly do. based on his horrible 2.3s 60' time, i would say he has a mid to high eleven car.

for example, ive done some passes and spun out ending up with a similar 60' time and my car ran mid 12s.

[JikJak]

here is a vid of the second pass of the day with my buddy giving it a try. unfortunately they didnt stage him in the water box properly and he just shot out.

http://vimeo.com/7093762

[borabora]

wow impressive time for such a heavy car.
unbelievable!
nice vid btw

[JikJak]

thanks :)

[RC0310_EJ]

nice video Terence! low 11s trapping 125mph must be nice :D