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yuusha
09-28-2009, 11:10 PM
Freaking hell, the topic. I'm nowhere near as bad as some people I know, but I'm getting the odd breakout or two and it's pissing me off.

I liked using Cetaphil cause it was cheap and not harsh on my skin, but I didn't really know what toner or lotion to use alongside it.

Proactiv worked for me, really well in fact that I'm trying to find a cheap set locally but some asshole posted his set on the Misc. section of the buy/sell, and for $15 only, and it sold before I thought about looking in that section... dammit. Somehow I still find it hard to justify $70 on 3 months or more of acne-free skin (it took me 3 or so months to finish one of the one-month kits I got for free from an uncle, lol, and had perfect skin for a while).

It doesn't help that I have oily skin.

So my question is, to anyone who used Proactiv before, what else worked really well for you? And anyone know people who can hook me up with Proactiv? XD

jimzilla
09-28-2009, 11:46 PM
stop eating "yeet hay" foods?

yuusha
09-29-2009, 12:39 AM
That doesn't help. I either spend $70 on Proactiv over 3 months and add a few minutes to my daily routine, or pay $50 extra a month minimum on food and spend extra time cooking food only for me.

Changing up my diet really didn't help the first time I tried it, either =/

ShanghaiKid
09-29-2009, 02:14 AM
sign up for an appointment with your family doctor or something, first stage they'll prescribe to you a topical acne therapy cream, one that has antibiotics which you won't have to orally consume - it works really really well if you've never tried it

otherwise, after a week or two you're acne doesn't clear up, go see your physician about referring you to a dermatologist or something

and if you have consistently oily skin, invest in a face scrub / exfoliant for daily use - keeps you're skin relatively oil free as long as you use it daily, plus helps rejuv your skin from all the acne

Moratorium
09-29-2009, 02:38 AM
ya just get your dr to refer you to a dermatologist. Having a doctor tell you which works for your skin is better than asking people for products that 'work like pro-active'.

Harvey Specter
09-29-2009, 03:34 AM
Check out Acne.org. I don't have acne but I use their products and do wonders for my skin.

SkinnyPupp
09-29-2009, 03:52 AM
I almost never get zits any more, after cutting out starches, grains, and sugar from my diet, and replacing them with good fat (coconut oil, lard, etc). Also, I have lost about 10 lbs of fat, and I rarely ever fart anymore either ;)

There is no reason to eat this stuff other than pleasure, so you should at least try removing them from your diet. You will be amazed at how better you feel all day, and your body will be at its best.

Harvey Specter
09-29-2009, 04:25 AM
Some people will have acne prone skin for their entire life no matter what they do. It's something you have to adjust and live with.

I remember when I was 15 my doctor gave me some acne pills that came in a booklet. It was like a 90 day cycle but I only used them for a month because they had major side effects so my suggestion to the OP is to be very careful about taking any sort of medication for your problem. If you do, make sure you know what the side effects are.

bsftong
09-29-2009, 07:13 AM
Yesterday I just picked up some proactiv ointment + refining mask (came to approx $50), and its already helping after using it once. I only use it for spot treatment, so hopefully it'll last for quite some time.

kangel
09-29-2009, 11:04 PM
i use to use proactive, but i use clearasil pads now 10$ for 1 1/2 month

Mugen EvOlutioN
09-30-2009, 09:22 AM
eat KFC everyday, gurantee u will have baby skin

d1
09-30-2009, 11:53 AM
Proactiv = benzoyl peroxide which you can get at acne.org. See your doctor even if it's not bad - you're better off containing it now than trying random things and making it worse.

LeanNsupreme
09-30-2009, 12:13 PM
How about you stop being fucking cheap and buy it in the store?

Just a thought.:)

ra1nn
09-30-2009, 08:56 PM
i use to use proactive, but i use clearasil pads now 10$ for 1 1/2 month

+1

twitchyzero
10-01-2009, 09:42 AM
LOL the google ad works wonder
it's on the bottom right of your OP ..check that out?

saucywoman
10-01-2009, 06:51 PM
I had never really had ance, just one or two every few months if that.. then I started breaking out for a bit there, nothing had changed in my skincare routine or for eating habits I started eating more healthier and quitting smoking, I started using the pink grapefruit cleanser from neutrogena and it's much better.

n1smo
10-01-2009, 06:54 PM
use proactive it does work!

jnesss
10-01-2009, 08:08 PM
i've tried a lot of stuff.. even going to the dermo. once my prescription meds run out, i'd be f'd. i'd have to wait for another referral, which could take weeks.

bottom line? benzoyl peroxide is king. i use the 10% J&J cleanser and scrub like a motherf. my skin's dry afterwards, but i don't care because i don't get too many pimples anymore. (and i eat EVERYTHING now.. nothing's off limits)

note - benzoyl peroxide is really strong. it'll make your skin itchy, red, and dry. when you start using it, you'll most likely get more pimples to start.

everybody's got their own methods, but read up on acne.org - the "regimen" seems to work for a lot of people.

Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 08:13 PM
use proactive it does work!

it works alrit



works on some ppl , yet some ppl tried it and it doesnt do jack

chileanwinehous
10-03-2009, 11:06 PM
I stopped drinking alcohol. It helped alot. I also bought a juicer and started juicing organic carrots and apples everyday. To clean face I use a $3.00 face scrub called St Ives apricot scrub for black heads. I tried proactive but it didnt work. Watch what you put into your body, it will show on your face sooner or later.

MelonBoy
10-04-2009, 01:08 AM
Freaking hell, the topic. I'm nowhere near as bad as some people I know, but I'm getting the odd breakout or two and it's pissing me off.

I liked using Cetaphil cause it was cheap and not harsh on my skin, but I didn't really know what toner or lotion to use alongside it.

Proactiv worked for me, really well in fact that I'm trying to find a cheap set locally but some asshole posted his set on the Misc. section of the buy/sell, and for $15 only, and it sold before I thought about looking in that section... dammit. Somehow I still find it hard to justify $70 on 3 months or more of acne-free skin (it took me 3 or so months to finish one of the one-month kits I got for free from an uncle, lol, and had perfect skin for a while).

It doesn't help that I have oily skin.

So my question is, to anyone who used Proactiv before, what else worked really well for you? And anyone know people who can hook me up with Proactiv? XD


Honestly i dont recommend "trying random ones"... Because some creams arent going to be for you and you will break out like Crrrazzy

Myself iv been using proactive it really keeps my acne down.. Over christmas my brothers gf gave me a bundle of stuff from the body shop (Tea tree oil or some crap like that)
My FGOD lol.. u should have seen my face.. super red and break out all over... used it for like half a week.. took a good month to calm back down to normal...

LemonH2O
10-04-2009, 10:37 AM
How severe is your acne exactly?
I had major break out when I was younger and used Proactiv, it worked wonders. But yes, you're right, it's a shitlaod of money to spend on facewash. Eventually, I just stopped using it. If you have bad acne, I've been told Proactiv is your best bet, as pricey as it is.

I was using Neutrogena Stress Control and have now switched to Aveeno Clear Complexion. If you look at the ingredients in all these different brands, it all comes down to essentially the exact same ones.

unit
10-05-2009, 08:48 AM
this reminds me of that vid in another thread..
"some peopel say i eat too many cho-co-lat bars..."

anyway, i dont get acne nowadays but i used to when i was in my teens.
i found those clearisel pads and such made it worse
good cleanser for oily skin was the best way to go for me, but not everyones acne situation is the same so what works for one person may not work for the next

DC5-S
10-07-2009, 10:16 AM
after years of frustration.. here is my solution to ACNE... there are these pills you can buy called "Perfect Skin" http://www.nationalnutrition.ca/detail.aspx?ID=2891 ive been taking these for over a year now.. and ive had maybe only 4-5 whiteheads in that amount of time!! this stuff works sooo well.. only need 1-2 pills a day, and make sure you drink lots of water each day to flush your system of toxins.

liu13
10-07-2009, 11:38 AM
sauna? try sweating it out then a thorough wash

!Yaminashi
10-07-2009, 11:44 AM
Proactiv works just fine for me and I dont have to buy it that often. As a matter of fact I dont think I've had to buy any for the past 6 months or so. I moved down to using it once a day just before bed. I get the odd pimple here and there but never get breakouts

d1
10-07-2009, 01:58 PM
sauna? try sweating it out then a thorough wash

Some of the advice on here.. :rolleyes:

If you want something to apply onto the pimple, your best bet is something that kills the bacteria (benzoyl peroxide or antibiotics like clindamycin) or topical retinoids.

MR_BIGGS
10-07-2009, 02:04 PM
Ya what D1 said. You want to dry the pimple essentially. Proactive will do that, but also you should drink lots of water, and eat vegetables and fruit. Your diet can also make you break out.

frost91
10-07-2009, 04:59 PM
i'm tempted to try that perfect skin but i need more feedback

i have terrible acne skin as well, i use clearasil 10% bp combined with aveno moisturizer
i've tried everything including proactiv (which is just a scam, they use the lowest percentage of bp)

teddyah
10-07-2009, 05:10 PM
why don't you guys try and detox ??????????????

DC5-S
10-07-2009, 05:13 PM
i'm tempted to try that perfect skin but i need more feedback

i have terrible acne skin as well, i use clearasil 10% bp combined with aveno moisturizer
i've tried everything including proactiv (which is just a scam, they use the lowest percentage of bp)

based on the reviews ive heard from others, and my own experience.. id have to say it works very well.. you also need to drink adaquete amounts of water each day.. take 2 pills a day for the first couple of months.. then take 1 a day and that should be enough.

SkinnyPupp
10-07-2009, 07:33 PM
why don't you guys try and detox ??????????????
Because they're not retards?

MelonBoy
10-07-2009, 08:52 PM
i'm tempted to try that perfect skin but i need more feedback

i have terrible acne skin as well, i use clearasil 10% bp combined with aveno moisturizer
i've tried everything including proactiv (which is just a scam, they use the lowest percentage of bp)

You gotta keep in mind more isnt better.. thats like saying instead of using only 10% BP, why not go for some 100% shit? .. doesnt quite cut it ..

Graeme S
10-11-2009, 01:27 AM
Some people will have acne prone skin for their entire life no matter what they do. It's something you have to adjust and live with.

I remember when I was 15 my doctor gave me some acne pills that came in a booklet. It was like a 90 day cycle but I only used them for a month because they had major side effects so my suggestion to the OP is to be very careful about taking any sort of medication for your problem. If you do, make sure you know what the side effects are.
Accutane! I used that shit and goDDAMN it worked awesome. My mom was really worried seeing as how one of the side effects can be suicidal depression, but I'd never been happier in my life!

You gotta keep in mind more isnt better.. thats like saying instead of using only 10% BP, why not go for some 100% shit? .. doesnt quite cut it ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoyl_peroxide#Acne_treatment
It is typically placed over the affected areas in gel or cream form, in concentrations of 2.5% increasing through the usually effective 5% to up to 10%. Research suggests that 5 and 10% concentrations are not significantly more effective than 2.5% and 2.5% is usually better tolerated.

hotong
10-11-2009, 09:11 PM
There are many ways that can help you to get rid or at least reduce your acne.
Anyhow, you must remember that most skin impurities are due to clogged pores, so the best way to reduce your acne is to unclog your pores.

Here are 5 Steps to unclog your pores that can be helpful for acne:

1,Don't use oil-based products such as facial lotions, wash and cosmetics. Look for products that are non-comedogenic, it means it will not clog your pores.

2.Do not wear tight headbands, baseball hats, and/or helmets when you exercise or play sports, and also be sure that you wash the sweat-soaked things each time you wear them.

3.Keep the skin hydrated and moist so your cells can function properly. Moisturize your face with mild, non-comedogenic moisturizers to keep it hydrated. Moisturizing is a necessity. Again, the product with the least amount of chemical additives is the best. Always use a light moisturizer on your face after cleansing.


4.Use toner or skin conditioner on cotton balls to clean your pores. Do not try to scrub harshly or you will strip and damage your skin. Even after rinsing your face, if you do not remove the remainder of cleanser and loosened debris residues, you are only going to imbed that debris deeper into the pores as you layer serums and moisturizers on top. The absolute best way to perform this deep pore cleansing is with a salicylic acid toner or skin conditioner on cotton balls. You don't need to harm your skin by vigorous scrubbing or harsh treatments, simply wipe with toner damp cotton balls until the last cotton comes away totally white.

5.Astringents, Salicylic Acid, retinoic acids, and glycolic acids all work to prevent pores from clogging. Be aware of some active ingredients like benzoyl peroxide, these ingredients can cause major side effects.

These were helpful for me when I tried to get rid of my acne

Harvey Specter
10-12-2009, 02:54 PM
Accutane! I used that shit and goDDAMN it worked awesome. My mom was really worried seeing as how one of the side effects can be suicidal depression, but I'd never been happier in my life!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoyl_peroxide#Acne_treatment

Yah, it was Accutane and I'm not going to lie, the stuff worked miracles for me and I only did half the cycle. I didn't have any acne issues throughout HS and still don't have any acne issues, hell I can't even the last time I broke out.

SkippyLang
02-04-2012, 10:40 PM
Has anyone tried bp lotion?

lowda9
02-04-2012, 11:32 PM
I had really bad acne when I was younger and the dermatologist had me take acutane. Its a very powerful drug and I beleive i took it over a course of a year and over that time they keep you closely monitored to ensure everythings ok. But what it does is it permanently reduces oil production. I havent had a break out, maybe just a pimple once in a few months since i finished treatment 5 years ago.

iam_dan
02-04-2012, 11:58 PM
i had bad acne for awhile, and during one summer, i made a visit to asia during the summer.
intense heat there, so i kept hydrated with water continuously. after about 3 weeks, my skin was amazing. having a lot of water helps for sure

since proactiv worked well for you, if you lay it out, its under a dollar a day. thats a pretty good deal for clear skin if you ask me.

Okami
02-05-2012, 12:31 AM
careful what products you use..

I have been using cliniques acne line for about 2 years now.. and it controlled my acne but I still had really oily skin so i decided to try something else..

i went to khiels and tried their acne line since they have a 28 day no questions money back guarantee..

after about 2 weeks my face exploded.. i got freaked out and went back into the store and they told me that that's supposed to happen.. keep using it for another 2 weeks and you should see improvement.. so i did.. after a week it got 3 times worse..

by now i look like one of those guys that need accutane.. so i was like fuck it and got a refund..

after i went back to clinique but it was no use.. now i have to use anti biotics and prescription cream and even after 2 weeks my face still looks like shit because of all the red marks left over..

just a warning =P if its gets worse dont keep going even if they tell you to XD

K-bad
02-05-2012, 12:45 AM
Ever since I started clinique's acne line my skin has been pretty controlled, before that it was pretty bad.

see.lai
02-05-2012, 05:29 PM
I'm almost done my first month of accutane, again. 40mg though

trancehead
02-05-2012, 10:11 PM
my chest is starting to developt acne :( right inbetween where the pectorials meet basically

jack3d
02-05-2012, 11:08 PM
doxycycline worked for me. you have to get it from your doc. its a pill you take once a day after a meal. was on it for 2 months and cleared up.. now i've changed up my diet. cut out the soda pops, fast digesting carbs, oily foods. been eating meat and slow digesting carbs, man has it done wonders. had the worst acne for like 2 years. can still have the occasional cheat meal, no harm done

FatalCloud
03-03-2012, 09:00 AM
i've tried numerous cleansers, antibiotics, creams, BP, name it, i did it. nothing worked for me except Accutane. Accutane 20mg (low dosage is good), been taking it for 3 months now, the last 3 weeks i have been 100% clear. and i was leery of the side effects but i have been getting none except the last two weeks i notice i'm getting nosebleeds. Anybody else experience this on Accutane?

not bad nosebleeds where blood is flowing out, but when i'm cleaning my nose, the tissue or whatever has blood on it. nose dryness? how can you moisturize the nose lol?

ruthless
03-03-2012, 11:31 AM
i've tried numerous cleansers, antibiotics, creams, BP, name it, i did it. nothing worked for me except Accutane. Accutane 20mg (low dosage is good), been taking it for 3 months now, the last 3 weeks i have been 100% clear. and i was leery of the side effects but i have been getting none except the last two weeks i notice i'm getting nosebleeds. Anybody else experience this on Accutane?

not bad nosebleeds where blood is flowing out, but when i'm cleaning my nose, the tissue or whatever has blood on it. nose dryness? how can you moisturize the nose lol?

yup I have the same "issue" but I'm on a 80mg/day dosage (not some low pussy dose:troll:)

but drink a lot of water, when I say a lot you should be pissing at least every 2 hours...I have this 2.2L(8 glasses) bottle I fill up about twice a day...the nosebleeds still occur but not as often.

I too also tried all the other things you mentioned, the last of my Accutane pills run out today :) Some of the side effects I experienced was dry itchy skin, but keep mind my dosage was for 6 months. Also dry lips was also another issue so be ready for that; and lastly dry skin. I have really bad dry skin where I am constantly scratching my back, stomach, legs, and it has even caused dandruff in my scalp. So get a good moisturizing cream, not a lotion but a cream, to help with that.

Ri2
03-03-2012, 12:04 PM
i have really sensitive skin so astringents/toners burn my skin like battery acid.
i've always done really well using a simple cleanser like Neutrogena Deep Clean Cream Cleanser if i have it. i do fine using regular bar soap as well.
when i breakout, i clean it with tea tree oil or a little bit of rubbing alcohol/hydrogen peroxide then i use toothpaste on them. pop a couple ibuprofen's if it's a painful one and i'm usually set. for scars, i used to use tea tree oil night moisturizer and vitamin E serum from the body shop. before i had the $ to get that, i used to prick holes in vit. E capsules and dot the oil on my skin.

if in the event that toothpaste doesn't work, i will be trying an aspirin mask.
Aspirin Mask - YouTube

BaBiE_Bee
03-06-2012, 08:44 AM
I use this from time to time:

La Roche-Posay Toleriane Purifying Foaming Cream: Skin Care: allure.com (http://www.allure.com/beauty-products/skin/2010/la-roche-posay-toleriane-foaming-cream)

You literally squeeze out a pea-sized dot and it will be enough for your whole face, I broke out like crazy a few years back and I went to the Shoppers Beauty Bar and the girl suggested this, in a few days my skin cleared up.

I also use this when I need a super deep-clean:

http://www.pharmacyathand.co.uk/gbu0-prodshow/2575-Neutrogena-Visibly-Clear-2-In-1-Wash-Mask.html

It's a normal facewash, but if you leave it on for longer then it hardens and becomes mask-esque for suck up all the oils.

Go to any Shoppers that has a Beauty Bar and ask the girls there for advice, they are really good at what they do and super nice to boot, I've taken my bf and my bro before. :)

Hope this helps!

cruz-in
03-06-2012, 09:17 AM
i used to have acne big time.

tanning got rid of it for me. ( seriously )

Okami
03-06-2012, 10:36 AM
not bad nosebleeds where blood is flowing out, but when i'm cleaning my nose, the tissue or whatever has blood on it. nose dryness? how can you moisturize the nose lol?

http://www.pendopharm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/secaris_bil_350.jpg

http://www.zuckermanpharmacy.com/images/products/big/008555.jpg

yup I have the same "issue" but I'm on a 80mg/day dosage (not some low pussy dose:troll:)


i :lawl:

im going to start accutane today.. my skin doesnt look that bad but the derm suggested it. and im going with it because after antibiotics the acne eventually comes back in a few months

im starting out with 40mg :okay:

vancouverdc4
03-06-2012, 10:49 AM
Apply tea tree oil to your affected areas, twice a day.

Get a perscription for clindamycin cream and apply that too.

Avoid using Accutane unless the above doesn't work. I've used Accutane, and although its effective, its not a permanent, long-term solution. The acne came back after i stopped taking it. It also can mess up your digestive system and thin out your hair (happened to me) along with those other horrid side effects.

Thank me later.

Firmware
03-06-2012, 11:12 AM
Do not listen to people who say use proactiv..

That shit does not fucking work

You are just making your acne worse.

Go see your doctor as they provide the best medication for your skin.

Couple things to keep in mind , wash your face twice a day.

DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE, you do not know how much i have to stress this, your hands are so dirty , worse than your toilet seat.

gdoh
03-06-2012, 11:26 AM
sleep on a clean towel every night

FatalCloud
03-15-2012, 08:33 PM
anyone drink alcohol while on accutane? up to now i've resisted a lot from my friends to drink and haven't. liver damage is something you shouldn't fuk with. but there's going to be a party with alcohol and girls lol.... hm, what to do.

Okami
03-15-2012, 10:03 PM
give the alcohol to the girls.. and offer to take them home..

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/008/549/If%20you%20know%20what%20I%20mean..png

on an unrelated note.. no apparent side effects after the first week of 40mg a day cept for mild dryness

ruthless
03-15-2012, 10:58 PM
give the alcohol to the girls.. and offer to take them home..

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/008/549/If%20you%20know%20what%20I%20mean..png

on an unrelated note.. no apparent side effects after the first week of 40mg a day cept for mild dryness

Be prepared for your skin to get super dry...all over your body ;)
Start moisturizing now because it gets brutal. Super itchy, and lips start flaking and drying up.
Use a moisturizing cream not a lotion, as the lotion does not penetrate deep enough...and as you already know drink a ton of water

I just finished my 80mg/day dosage 2 weeks ago and so far so good, skins still dry :p

westopher
03-16-2012, 12:02 AM
70 dollars over 3 months is just over 23 dollars a month. You said proactiv works for you, I'd say thats a pretty reasonable solution.

Okami
03-16-2012, 12:31 AM
70 dollars over 3 months is just over 23 dollars a month. You said proactiv works for you, I'd say thats a pretty reasonable solution.

the yuusha from 2 and a half years ago thanks you for your post :rukidding:

70 dollars is like 5 hours of work.. :IDL

Firmware
03-16-2012, 12:45 AM
Lol take it from me, once you stop proactiv , you will see how much of a bullshit product it is.

westopher
03-16-2012, 01:05 AM
the yuusha from 2 and a half years ago thanks you for your post :rukidding:

70 dollars is like 5 hours of work.. :IDL
Read the first post, replied. Glad I could help.

busdriverman
03-16-2012, 01:19 AM
if it works, then hell it might be worth your money. you mentioned that you have tried changing your diet but to no avail. wouldn't it be worth your piece of mind to know that you are buying a product that is guaranteed to help fight acne and save the massive headache it is causing you?

yuusha
03-16-2012, 01:21 AM
Yeah I stopped using proactiv ages ago, I just have the odd zit now and then but scarring on my face and neck from before using it, still exists :heckno:

I really should try tea tree oil, everyone tells me it works wonders.

Firmware
03-16-2012, 01:26 AM
You guys make me crackle when you say you use proactiv.

That shit is so garbage.

westopher
03-16-2012, 08:15 AM
It seems to work for some people.

gdoh
03-16-2012, 08:19 AM
try eating less junk food

forehead_04
03-17-2012, 12:01 AM
I do this once a week...
Wash your face with warm water and soap... (opens pours and cleanses)
Take baking soda and place a bit in one hand, take a wet cotton pad and make the soda wet so its a bit like a paste but just do it as you go in your palm.
Dab it over your whole face.

Chill. It'll dry up after a bit. Once completely dry. Rinse. I usually shower after because its a bit hard to rinse off.

Got this from a family friend who is a family doctor.

+ i sleep with a towel on my pillow, use a facial scrub, sauna 3 days a week and use biotherm aqua in the mornings.

It all helps.

donjalapeno
03-17-2012, 02:50 PM
i went to my family doctor and he gave me a cream and antibiotics it seems to be working

Firmware
03-17-2012, 03:00 PM
Lol Im not going to say it again.

Proactiv works until you stop using it.

Dont be fooled by big companies who have celebrities on it , they get paid to be there and say whatever the fuck they want to say and they photoshop that shit.

And DOCTORS give the best possible creams + treatment .

They are doctors for a reason.

ForeverYours
03-18-2012, 03:59 PM
I used proactiv 2-3 years ago.

There were some results, but after I stopped using it my acne came back and it was much worse.
Some of the ingredients in proactiv are able to strip paint off walls... wtf that's not good for anybody's skin.

If anyone is still considering on using proactiv, I highly suggest you don't try it.

At the moment I'm using clindamycin+benzoyl peroxide topical cream prescribed to me at a doctors place and using aloe vera gel at night to try and heal the scars.
My breakouts are less frequent, and there aren't many red bumps.

I'm going to start sleeping with a clean towel over my pillow every night, hopefully it's going to help my skin out.

jack3d
04-06-2012, 12:05 AM
go to your doc and get Minocycline or Doxycycline either one is good and get the cream TacTuo, shit works like magic. TacTuo suppose to be the new best cream, just came out not too long ago is what my doc told me. Dont bother with the stuff in the stores...that stuff may work but its a hit or miss... prescription is the way to go..you can thank me later

achiam
04-09-2012, 06:38 PM
Hi all, I'm a pharmacist, and I'd like to briefly outline what acne is, and what happens because judging on the comments prior, I think there's quite a bit of confusion with most people thinking their skin is dirty or something.

Acne is an inflammation of the the oil pores in the skin, and it usually happens at the face, back, or chest. There are three contributors as to why it happens.

In the oil pores, which are important to the skin's normal function, are glands that create the oil, called the sebum glands. The size of these glands and the output of oil from them, is controlled by hormones (molecules in the body that act as signallers), the main one being the male sex hormone dihydrotestosterone. In many acne sufferers, the amount of this testosterone is increased, causing the sebum glands at the skin to enlarge and/or secrete excessive amounts of oil.

The second contributor to acne is the walls of the oil pore themselves. In many acne sufferers, the cell walls of the pore itself regenerate and shed themselves much faster, forming oily clumps which often plug the oil pore. When these pores get blocked, these clumps of dead cells and oil initially look white, but over time become oxidized to turn a black color (a blackhead, which most people wrongly believe to be dust/dirt in the pore).

The third contributor is the presence of a specific bacteria living inside this pore that can only survive if there is no oxygen. It eats away the clumps of the fat+dead cells and turns them into fatty acids that then irritate the skin and cause the inflammation and red patches you see on acne patients.

The main misconception is that scrubbing the face will clean it more, when this will actually worsen the situation -- rubbing hard and breaking the cells will only worsen the inflammation. You're better off dabbing and cleaning the area softly!

Proactiv works the same way as Clearasil and PanOxyl Aqua Gel. Its active agent is benzoyl peroxide, which releases oxygen into the area and thus kills the bacteria as oxygen is deadly to it. Many of those brands are all the same thing, just different packaging.

jack3d
04-09-2012, 07:35 PM
so what do you recommend?

GGnoRE
04-09-2012, 07:44 PM
Back in highschool I had acne for 4 years. I tried neutrigena, proactive, ointments/creams but nothing worked. Went through 2 cycles of accutane and have had the cleanest face ever. If you're running out of things to try, accutane is the shit. My doctor was the one who actually recommended it, as he was worried with acnes leaving more scars on my face (although I wasn't popping them). Just make sure your doctor looks at your blood exams before, during and after the cycle.

achiam
04-10-2012, 06:53 PM
so what do you recommend?

There isn't any one agent that we can recommend to everyone, but rather a tailored response which will be more or less efficient in different people. On the whole, we'd rather use topical applications at first, rather than ingested drugs. This is because eating something goes into your entire body system and can cause possible side effects...

The usual treatment is skin applied gels (benzoyl peroxide - aka proactiv aka clindoxyl gel aka clearasil etc etc, all exact same shit but different companies). All it is is oxygen which kill the bacteria that makes the said irritant fatty acids that ur body reacts to. Another agent possibly recommended at the same time is salicylic acid, which is an agent that breaks down those cell clumps, and would help to get more of the benzoyl peroxide into the pore and more effectively kill the bacteria. Obviously you want to kill all of it so you don't have any left to cause inflammation.

If this doesn't work, you will need a doctor's prescription. This can include ingested antibiotics like tetra, erythro, or mino. These will then also kill the pore embedded bacteria but may also kill some good bacteria in your gut too, possibly affecting vitamin absorption levels or diarrhea. Other agents include retinoic acid, which increases the amount of pore skin cell shedding to cause increased debris clearance from the clogged pore, and if this class of action doesn't work, we go to ingested versions. These agents are usually given topically in gel or cream, but the ingested version is called Accutane, and this can work very effectively. A negative of this though (going back to my earlier comment about ingested crap possibly giving side effects) is that it has been well documented that Accutane can cause depressive thoughts, sudden violence, and other mental side effects. It is actually banned in several European countries, and Roche, the firm that made it, is under several major class action law suits from people who've committed suicide etc. This is a small minority however, and it works very well for many people. One of my own friends' gfs however went psycho from using it years ago, locking herself in the washroom and threatening suicide until the RCMP came and broke the door down.

Lastly, hormone therapy agents suppress the dihydrotestosterone levels in your body, which as previously mentioned control the size and output levels of the sebum glands in the pores. Messing with ur hormones has a whole bunch of possible effects.

Studies haven't conclusively labelled oily food as a contributor, but the books say to eat more greens (good diet). Stress should worsen it though.