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Z4 M-Sport?
asian_XL
09-30-2009, 05:09 AM
http://www.blogcdn.com/chinese.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/6090585.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/9/medium/5172324.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/9/medium/3042240.jpg
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:thumbsup:
Z3guy
09-30-2009, 06:17 AM
wonder why they are not giving the new Z4 the M treatment?
Z3guy
09-30-2009, 06:18 AM
whoops, didn't read the title right...I thought this was Z4 Sport...too early to read properly....
dogeatcookie
09-30-2009, 06:27 AM
probably just the M-sport kit
Mugen EvOlutioN
09-30-2009, 07:03 AM
apparently z4 are pretty damn fast!! :eek:
stock 3.0L engine runs 14.0 1/4 mile with only 225hp and 220 torque ish
Domani
09-30-2009, 09:06 AM
i wonder if this gen z4 would get the v8 and not the 6cly 333.
Z3guy
09-30-2009, 09:29 AM
when Steve Dinan was doing his lowermainland tour, he mentioned that the new M cars will not have high revving NA motors anymore....new M cars will be warmed over regular bimmers.....I hope the Z4 gets the V8, but I think a it will get a tuned version of the 3.0l TT....similar to the new X5M/X6M Vs X5/X6
dogeatcookie
09-30-2009, 10:18 AM
when Steve Dinan was doing his lowermainland tour, he mentioned that the new M cars will not have high revving NA motors anymore....new M cars will be warmed over regular bimmers.....I hope the Z4 gets the V8, but I think a it will get a tuned version of the 3.0l TT....similar to the new X5M/X6M Vs X5/X6
apparently there won't be an M version for the new z4s, only the M-sport package
ShyGuy
09-30-2009, 10:46 AM
apparently z4 are pretty damn fast!! :eek:
stock 3.0L engine runs 14.0 1/4 mile with only 225hp and 220 torque ish
that's not that fast...and the new Z4 is 3L Twin Turbo 300HP...
Mkhun
09-30-2009, 11:14 AM
love the side profile..
SuperSlowSS
09-30-2009, 12:10 PM
M-Sport != ///M
!Aznboi128
09-30-2009, 01:01 PM
looks good
the new z4 is one of those cars that just got it right :)
Z3guy
09-30-2009, 01:06 PM
M-Sport != ///M
I think the new Z4 M sport will be similar to the previous gen X5 4.8is.....more performance oriented than a regular bimmer, but not quite to M standards...otherwise I think they would call it M Roadster or MZ4....I think it would be more like the 550i with the M-tech sports pkg.
ilvtofu
09-30-2009, 01:18 PM
i wonder if this gen z4 would get the v8 and not the 6cly 333.
I don't think they still use the E46 M3 engine, just because the 3.0 Twin turbo performance is so close if not better, they'd probably stick in the E92M3 V8, since it's the M3 engine of the time, that'd be sick 415 hp in a Z4 *drools*
Mugen EvOlutioN
09-30-2009, 01:29 PM
that's not that fast...and the new Z4 is 3L Twin Turbo 300HP...
well consider 220hp and able to run 14 flate
:eek:
look at 350z's quarter mile, low 14s with 300hp higher torque number as well
NEW Z meaning 2010 version? so basically 335i engine than
Z3guy
09-30-2009, 01:43 PM
well consider 220hp and able to run 14 flate
:eek:
look at 350z's quarter mile, low 14s with 300hp higher torque number as well
NEW Z meaning 2010 version? so basically 335i engine than
dude, shyguy is right......there is no way a 3500lbs car with 220hp can do 14 flat in the quarter. The base engine in the Z4 is the same motor in the 328i...it is a NA 3.0L motor putting out 230hp at the crank....but the one all the mags are testing is the 3.0L TT.....
ilvtofu
09-30-2009, 02:04 PM
Yeah I don't think it can do 14 flat with the base engine
Anyways, I think they need a more hardcore performance version to compete with the cayman S which is serious business on the track 300hp and Mid engine, now with PDK option in a car under 3000 pounds? BMW needs something to keep up with and just a higher power engine won't cut it, M coupe makes sense to me
Although in a way, for the price of a cayman S an M3 is just waiting to kick it's ass. hmm...
its an M sport package. BMW has no plans for an M version of the Z4, not yet.
Jackygor
09-30-2009, 06:48 PM
its an M sport package. BMW has no plans for an M version of the Z4, not yet.
+1
what he said. I look forward to it though, I guess they will wait for the porsche to make the first move first.
Mugen EvOlutioN
09-30-2009, 07:35 PM
dude, shyguy is right......there is no way a 3500lbs car with 220hp can do 14 flat in the quarter. The base engine in the Z4 is the same motor in the 328i...it is a NA 3.0L motor putting out 230hp at the crank....but the one all the mags are testing is the 3.0L TT.....
dude i didnt wonna believe either, i had a hugeee almost 3 hrs debate with my buddy. CAuse an idiot korean guy in a Z4 tried to race me on knight bridge...cut me off, block me..than tailgates me...than honk at me to race him i was like WTF!!! :rolleyes:
apparently i had no choice to believe until he showed many websites listing they are running 14.0 1/4 mile 3.0 engine
i find it very very hard to believe with 220hp and 1380kg it can run that fast.
Similar power, s2k, IS300, IS250 or other cars with 220hp cannot run low 14 or flate 14 bone stock.
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60_Quarter_Mile_Times/B_0-60times.html
tats one
http://autos.yahoo.com/2004_bmw_z4_roadster_3.0i-performance/
2nd one
also seen a 14.0 flate on another article as well
Z3guy
10-01-2009, 06:10 AM
^ hey man, the z4 quoted in your links is the previous gen Z4...with the 3.0 motor and 255-265hp & 225lbs of torque.....+ the previous gen Z4 is lighter at 3200lbs.
#s look right though.....
ilvtofu
10-01-2009, 07:04 AM
dude i didnt wonna believe either, i had a hugeee almost 3 hrs debate with my buddy. CAuse an idiot korean guy in a Z4 tried to race me on knight bridge...cut me off, block me..than tailgates me...than honk at me to race him i was like WTF!!! :rolleyes:
apparently i had no choice to believe until he showed many websites listing they are running 14.0 1/4 mile 3.0 engine
i find it very very hard to believe with 220hp and 1380kg it can run that fast.
Similar power, s2k, IS300, IS250 or other cars with 220hp cannot run low 14 or flate 14 bone stock.
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60_Quarter_Mile_Times/B_0-60times.html
tats one
http://autos.yahoo.com/2004_bmw_z4_roadster_3.0i-performance/
2nd one
also seen a 14.0 flate on another article as well
Wait you raced a Z4 in your si?
Lol @ irrelevant numbers for a higher powered car that weighs less
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 07:06 AM
since when did i drive a Si
:rolleyes:
and when did i say i raced a Si?
the fucker tried to race me, i was pissed and gave him the finger becuz he fucking did all of the above
cut me off, tailgates me, box me out to the corner
ilvtofu
10-01-2009, 07:10 AM
since when did i drive a Si
:rolleyes:
and when did i say i raced a Si?
the fucker tried to race me, i was pissed and gave him the finger becuz he fucking did all of the above
cut me off, tailgates me, box me out to the corner
Oh, okay, so did you end up racing him?
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 07:12 AM
^ hey man, the z4 quoted in your links is the previous gen Z4...with the 3.0 motor and 255-265hp & 225lbs of torque.....+ the previous gen Z4 is lighter at 3200lbs.
#s look right though.....
huh?
04 z4
225@5900 hp
214 ft lb , 290 Nm @ 3,500 rpm
3200 lbs isnt exactly light, roughly 1380kg?
with the above spec, seems impossible to run low 14/flate 14
e46 M3 weighs like what? 120-150kg more? but with addtional 110hp more plus 30-40 pounds more torque to make up for the weight? yet it runs mid 13?
and 350z with roughly 1500kg 300hp, 270 torque it runs low 14, z4 just seems way to fast for what it is
too_slow
10-01-2009, 07:13 AM
since when did i drive a Si
:rolleyes:
and when did i say i raced a Si?
the fucker tried to race me, i was pissed and gave him the finger becuz he fucking did all of the above
cut me off, tailgates me, box me out to the corner
^Stay on topic. You quoted power figures of the old Z4. Just shut up already.
BTW Si > RSX
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 07:13 AM
Oh, okay, so did you end up racing him?
negative
i did had the urge to fucking pull him out of the car and smash his face.
BUTTTT...his korean gf was hella cute...so sigh.....i gave him the finger than i saw the girl and was thinking...shittt :( its like...so can i get ur number now? :haha::haha::haha:
douche bag guy, cute gf...not a good combo to mess around lol
he had 6000k ish hid for his foglight as well
ilvtofu
10-01-2009, 07:15 AM
negative
i did had the urge to fucking pull him out of the car and smash his face.
BUTTTT...his korean gf was hella cute...so sigh.....i gave him the finger than i saw the girl and was thinking...shittt :( its like...so can i get ur number now? :haha::haha::haha:
:haha: nice, was it a typical honger or azn 20 something year old with a Z4 daddy bought for him?
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 07:16 AM
^Stay on topic. You quoted power figures of the old Z4. Just shut up already.
BTW Si > RSX
RSX > Si :thumbsup:
ilvtofu
10-01-2009, 07:43 AM
Is it just me or does this new bumper look pretty similar to the one on the 135?
I like it though
Rear end could be more agressive
q0192837465
10-01-2009, 09:07 AM
shit, makes me wanna buy a Z4 now
Z3guy
10-01-2009, 09:18 AM
huh?
04 z4
225@5900 hp
214 ft lb , 290 Nm @ 3,500 rpm
3200 lbs isnt exactly light, roughly 1380kg?
with the above spec, seems impossible to run low 14/flate 14
e46 M3 weighs like what? 120-150kg more? but with addtional 110hp more plus 30-40 pounds more torque to make up for the weight? yet it runs mid 13?
and 350z with roughly 1500kg 300hp, 270 torque it runs low 14, z4 just seems way to fast for what it is
you are right, the 225hp is the 04......not sure which yr, 06 or 07, the hp went up to 255-265hp.....
The E46 M3 is much quicker due to the pts you mentioned plus;
1) lsd
2) 6 sp Vs 5 sp
3) different rear end ratio...the M3 is a 3.64...not sure wha the Z4 is..but I believe it is 3.15....
4) taller rear tires for better traction
the Z4 seem way to fast based on the #s...but the torque # is decent.
btw, I just borrowed my buddy's 09 Z4 3.5.......the new Z4 is fucking awesome.....the mid range punch with the DSG tranny is awesome......I wouldn't buy one, but it is definitely a much more luxurious vehicle. imo it is a step up from the previous gen....
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 10:29 AM
ya thats one thing i find it really hard to believe they are that fast stock wise
225hp 220 torque is an OKAY spec..nothing spectacular yet it runs 14 with ease, its competitor or cars with that power output range cannot run the same way z4 puts it down
with a bit of mod here and there it has potential beating the m3 at ease.
damn new cars just keep on getting faster and faster every year...scary
Z3guy
10-01-2009, 10:44 AM
ya thats one thing i find it really hard to believe they are that fast stock wise
225hp 220 torque is an OKAY spec..nothing spectacular yet it runs 14 with ease, its competitor or cars with that power output range cannot run the same way z4 puts it down
with a bit of mod here and there it has potential beating the m3 at ease.
damn new cars just keep on getting faster and faster every year...scary
Bimmers rarely have high hp or torque #s...but what makes bimmers accelerate better than the #s suggest is due to a strong linear torque curve below maximum revs......at 2000 to 5000rpms, I am pretty sure bimmers make better power Vs cars with similar hp #s.
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 11:05 AM
^
cool good info
that might explains it
i wonder whats 04 330ci acclerates as well as 335i
Z3guy
10-01-2009, 11:08 AM
^ unfortunately the 04 330ci has only 225hp & 214lbs of torque...the 335i weighs approx. 200lbs more, but has 300hp and 300lbs of torque...and that is underrated....so even a supercharged 330ci would have a tough time to keep up with a 335i...hard to beat twin turbos......
BMW135i
10-01-2009, 11:23 AM
The Z4 look great in the pic. I'm assuming the M sport kit
does the z4 come with turbo?
Z3guy
10-01-2009, 01:29 PM
^ yep, twin turbos....barely any lag....
damn i was expecting dogeatcookie to answer that one
Z3guy
10-01-2009, 02:28 PM
sorry dude....
ilvtofu
10-01-2009, 03:09 PM
n00b doesn't come with turbos on the base model ;)
Z3guy
10-01-2009, 03:12 PM
wow, you must be the bimmer expert........
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-01-2009, 03:15 PM
:haha::haha:
LowTEC
10-02-2009, 07:49 PM
BTW Si > RSX
same shit, different pile
too_slow
10-03-2009, 12:06 PM
same shit, different pile
I knew that, but I just wanted to make him feel inferior about his car.. :D
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