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NWS: Fresh Sea Urchin! Prepping
Went to fisherman's warf this morning and looky what they had for sale!!!
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs249.snc1/9634_305476035380_530405380_9329765_6317051_n.jpg
yup, that is FRESH sea urchin. you normally see "uni" at japanese sushi restaurants all prepared for you.
This isnt for the faint of heart...
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs249.snc1/9634_305476040380_530405380_9329766_8341016_n.jpg
Procedure as follows, cut off the spikes, cut out the bottom mouth piece, and then crack the shell around to open her up. then spoon out the roe. i found the easiest way was no different than seperate egg yolk from egg white, while running under fresh water.
The little green one
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs249.snc1/9634_305476045380_530405380_9329767_6399150_n.jpg
Never had the green one before.
but prep turned out much easier than the red ones.
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs269.snc1/9634_305476050380_530405380_9329768_3124771_n.jpg
Now there is only so much fresh u can eat. the remainer we are going to add to soups.
oh yeah, dont eat too much, the chlorestrol on these is stupid insane!
SkinnyPupp
10-11-2009, 08:51 PM
My bro works at a sushi restaurant, and when he started he was tasked with cleaning sea urchins. He now refuses to ever eat uni :lol
By the way, the cholesterol in uni is really good for you. You should eat as much as you can!
ASG111
10-11-2009, 09:31 PM
i thought if you don't cut it a certain way, it can be poisonous or something.. is that right? or am i talking about the wrong kind of jap food.
thats fugu, blow fish.
sea urchin spines have no poison.
i thought if you don't cut it a certain way, it can be poisonous or something.. is that right? or am i talking about the wrong kind of jap food.
Chicken Balls
10-11-2009, 10:36 PM
of the two which one tasted better?
TRDood
10-12-2009, 02:38 AM
what are those black/brown stuff? intestines?
i guess we only eat the "meat"
skyxx
10-12-2009, 02:49 AM
My bro works at a sushi restaurant, and when he started he was tasked with cleaning sea urchins. He now refuses to ever eat uni :lol
By the way, the cholesterol in uni is really good for you. You should eat as much as you can!
Are you serious? lol Just because something is really "Good" for you doesn't mean you should eat it as much as you can. It can result in a negative effect.
SkinnyPupp
10-12-2009, 04:41 AM
what are those black/brown stuff? intestines?
i guess we only eat the "meat"
Actually you are eating the female gonads of the urchin (ovaries)
Are you serious? lol Just because something is really "Good" for you doesn't mean you should eat it as much as you can. It can result in a negative effect.
I am totally serious. If you are not ignorant, then you would realize that cholesterol is only "bad" if the ratio of HDL > LDL, good LDL > bad LDL, and HDL > Triglycerides is bad. The way to properly correct all three ratios is to eat sources of GOOD cholesterol. That means natural sources from animals. Eggs, fat on meat, etc. You might have "high cholesterol" overall, but your actual detailed cholesterol profile will be vastly improved.
So if you have shitty cholesterol, or want to stay healthy and live longer, you should eat all the cholesterol you can. Keeping in mind that there is no correlation at all between high cholesterol and heart disease (contrary to what some bullshit studies attempt to say). It's inflammation and high insulin spikes that you want to avoid, not "high cholesterol".
Is there a such thing as eating too much uni? Probably.. How much bottom-feeding sea creature ovaries do you really want to ingest? But is it a concern for your cholesterol levels if you eat a lot of it? (which is what I brought up in the first place) absolutely not. Quite the opposite actually.
Uni (and other food sourced from sea animal ovaries) is actually really good for you - it is packed with protein, has a ratio of protein/fat of about 3:1, and much of the fat contains really good cholesterol. There is absolutely no reason to limit your intake of uni, beyond feeling sick from eating such rich food of course ;)
Gnomes
10-12-2009, 08:41 AM
When is it in season for uni? I assume now till ???
I never had them while they are in season.
Amuse
10-12-2009, 09:37 AM
I am wondering why this thread is NWS?
because some ppl cant stomach the thought that you actually have to kill an animal to eat it.
and because if say you opened this thread while at work, ur boss swings by and see's what looks pretty damn gross, which may get u in shit, wouldnt that be considered "NOT WORK SAFE"
NWS does not always apply to porn.
BlackZRoadster
10-12-2009, 10:16 AM
how much were they selling them for? i rmbr yaohan had fresh sea urchin for sale.
just wondering if its worth all the work to clean myself
3 red ones for $10 bucks
2 green ones for $5 bucks
considering fresh uni opened like this at a japanese restaurant is around $15 bucks, this was a steal!
sonick
10-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Nice, my parents bought 3 of em this weekend too... Tasty.
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-12-2009, 03:31 PM
looks....kinda...gross
BlackZRoadster
10-12-2009, 03:40 PM
3 red ones for $10 bucks
2 green ones for $5 bucks
considering fresh uni opened like this at a japanese restaurant is around $15 bucks, this was a steal!
what difference is the red vs green?
which tasted better
red is traditional one you get at japanese restaurants. its creamy and sweet.
the green flavor is more delicate, not as sweet and creamy but its roe holds its shape better.
i had some this morning on a slice of toasted french bread, w/ olive oil, s&p, and some balsamic. good stuff!
pawdregry4g
10-12-2009, 09:09 PM
Actually you are eating the female gonads of the urchin (ovaries)
I am totally serious. If you are not ignorant, then you would realize that cholesterol is only "bad" if the ratio of HDL > LDL, good LDL > bad LDL, and HDL > Triglycerides is bad. The way to properly correct all three ratios is to eat sources of GOOD cholesterol. That means natural sources from animals. Eggs, fat on meat, etc. You might have "high cholesterol" overall, but your actual detailed cholesterol profile will be vastly improved.
So if you have shitty cholesterol, or want to stay healthy and live longer, you should eat all the cholesterol you can. Keeping in mind that there is no correlation at all between high cholesterol and heart disease (contrary to what some bullshit studies attempt to say). It's inflammation and high insulin spikes that you want to avoid, not "high cholesterol".
Is there a such thing as eating too much uni? Probably.. How much bottom-feeding sea creature ovaries do you really want to ingest? But is it a concern for your cholesterol levels if you eat a lot of it? (which is what I brought up in the first place) absolutely not. Quite the opposite actually.
Uni (and other food sourced from sea animal ovaries) is actually really good for you - it is packed with protein, has a ratio of protein/fat of about 3:1, and much of the fat contains really good cholesterol. There is absolutely no reason to limit your intake of uni, beyond feeling sick from eating such rich food of course ;)
You've got something mixed up here, HDL is the one to strive for in your diet not LDL. High density lipo proteins (HDL) serve to carry l excess cholesterol and phospholipids from the tissue and out for disposal, whilst LDL delivers cholesterol from the liver to the tissues. You're incorrect in your case of living a long and healthy life by "eating as much cholesterol" as you can, in fact that advice would increase risk of cardiovacular disease drastically.LDL is easily consumed through dietary means, via saturated fats and trans fats. However HDL concentrations aren't affected very much at all through the diet, and ways of promoting HDL concentrations are through regular physical exercise. There is a High correlation between high cholesterol and heart disease, but it's through high LDL concentration due to it's function in the body. So summary, dietary intake of cholesterol should be moderated but not necessarily eliminated. This will help in controlling high cholesterol levels which would increase risk of Heart disease. I'd cite all my sources, but you would just call it bullshit and ignorant.
Mugen EvOlutioN
10-13-2009, 08:08 AM
dont really get the hype of ppl craving for uni
it looks like...diahhrea
:(
SkinnyPupp
10-13-2009, 08:15 AM
You've got something mixed up here, HDL is the one to strive for in your diet not LDL.
Cholesterol is made up of HDL and LDL. You can't have one without the other. At the same time, there are two types of LDL - big 'fluffy' managable particles, and small 'sticky' little particles that the body has problems handling. If you are going to have LDL no matter what, then you want the "good LDL". And where does that come from? Naturally saturated fat. Animal fat. Sea Urchin ovaries :D
High density lipo proteins (HDL) serve to carry l excess cholesterol and phospholipids from the tissue and out for disposal, whilst LDL delivers cholesterol from the liver to the tissues. You're incorrect in your case of living a long and healthy life by "eating as much cholesterol" as you can, in fact that advice would increase risk of cardiovacular disease drastically.
Blah blah blah, you are preaching the outdated, old, unproven notion that there is a direct link between cholesterol and cardiovascular disease. There is no such link. Correlation != causation.
LDL is easily consumed through dietary means, via saturated fats and trans fats.
Which is why I said you should get cholesterol from saturated fats, and not trans fats. You are going to get LDL anyway, so make it the type that will not cause issues.
There is a High correlation between high cholesterol and heart disease
Correlation != causation. There are some inaccurate, poorly done studies that can be construed as showing a correlation. But properly done studies show that there is no direct causation between high cholesterol and heart disease. Remember - correlation does NOT mean causation.
There is a High correlation between having grey hair and dying of old age. Does that mean having grey hair will make you die?
I'd cite all my sources, but you would just call it bullshit and ignorant.
Well you got one thing right at least. Because anything attempting to show a direct cause of heart disease being attributed to high cholesterol is going to be bullshit. And anyone who believes it blindly is ignorant.
I will finish with this video, where Dr Malcolm Kendrick explains the non-existence of a relationship between high cholesterol and heart disease, using data from a World Health Organization study. This should put an end to any scepticism you may have. If not, I don't have much to offer you except my condolences to you and the people around you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE
TRDood
10-13-2009, 12:11 PM
what!?
3 for $10???
how many pieces are in the red ones? restaurant charge like $20 for 6-8 piece fresh uni sashimi.......
as i said, what you pay for is the prep. the prep is pretty messy.
each sea urchin has 5 pieces of roe.
the prep is where ur money goes to when u order at a restaurant, and honestly, i understand why they would charge that price.
not only do u need to get the roe out, but u also need to clean it, that is seperate the roe from the shell then the roe from the innerds, then gentle rinse under water to have it fully clean. now if they plan on reusing the shell as a serving dish, then u gotta make sure the shell is intact.
what!?
3 for $10???
how many pieces are in the red ones? restaurant charge like $20 for 6-8 piece fresh uni sashimi.......
pawdregry4g
10-13-2009, 01:24 PM
true correlation doesn't equal causation, but at the same time what you posted was one man's word against an accepted understanding. Howeve, north american health agencies still agree with the correlation of cholesterol and heart disease and current university courses, still "preach" this information. Believe it or not, this social belief did not come without research, and multitudes of studies have been put into cardiovascular disease. Whatever you wish to believe is up to you, but go out there and tell a doctor straight up. "I'm on a high cholesterol diet full of saturated fat," and see what he says, probably not "good going chap!" As a side note, Transfats are avoided due to the fact that they were originally non-hydrogenated fats (good) that have been converted into a version similar to saturated fats in form and function. So a high intake of saturated fats is just as bad as transfat. I won't waste my time explaining the organic structures of them. Rock on with your amazing health philosophy, it sure sounds tasty ;)
kazuki
10-13-2009, 02:29 PM
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/308/6925/367
The results of this article show a reduction in serum cholesterol concentration reduces the risk of ischaemic heart disease.
I dont have a problem with people being intelligent about their health and do research but I think it is stupid when people think they are the "experts" from what they read on wikipedia or youtube.
Sea urchin looks yummy btw
ilvtofu
10-13-2009, 03:05 PM
My mom took my car to get these sea urchins at steveston too... now my car stinks like sea water :(
The yucky looking stuff is just seaweed and is actually really easy to rinse out.
SkinnyPupp
10-13-2009, 06:32 PM
true correlation doesn't equal causation, but at the same time what you posted was one man's word against an accepted understanding.
That is not "one man's word" that is a huge collection of data (http://www.ktl.fi/monica/) organized by the World Health Organization.
Any arguments you have are literally put to rest with this data.
Howeve, north american health agencies still agree with the correlation of cholesterol and heart disease and current university courses, still "preach" this information.
And as studies are looked at, that correlation disappears. If you actually plotted the data and looked at it, you would find it ridiculous what they call a "correlation". It's almost like they are blatantly lying to go with predetermined notions. And when you are talking about "health agencies" please tell me you're not referring to the lobbyists like the AHA... If so, wow you really are fleeced.
Believe it or not, this social belief did not come without research, and multitudes of studies have been put into cardiovascular disease.
Yes, and when you look at them - when you really look at them - you will see that there is no correlation between heart disease and high cholesterol.
go out there and tell a doctor straight up. "I'm on a high cholesterol diet full of saturated fat," and see what he says, probably not "good going chap!"
Actually, he'll say "let's put that to the test". Then we can test my blood, and find out that I have extremely high HDL levels, and almost no triglycerides at all. Just like anyone else who eats like I do.
As a side note, Transfats are avoided due to the fact that they were originally non-hydrogenated fats (good) that have been converted into a version similar to saturated fats in form and function.
Holy shit, you're only about 10 years outdated with that notion :lol
So a high intake of saturated fats is just as bad as transfat.
Wow. Just.. wow. I honestly don't know how to respond to such an idiotic statement. Sorry :(
I won't waste my time explaining the organic structures of them. Rock on with your amazing health philosophy, it sure sounds tasty ;)
Tasty, and healthy. My cholesterol is perfect, I am losing fat like mad, and I have tons of energy that lasts the entire day, every day. It's quite awesome, you should try living like a normal human some time!
its not seaweed. its the inside, its stomach, its inner organs.
My mom took my car to get these sea urchins at steveston too... now my car stinks like sea water :(
The yucky looking stuff is just seaweed and is actually really easy to rinse out.
pawdregry4g
10-13-2009, 07:45 PM
This is going no where and is entering levels of trolling. The points I make are based off the science behind them, and by explaining the systems all I've gotten were responses such as "idiotic" or "10 years behind." If your belief stands true, then I suggest you apply your vast nutritional knowledge to a few educational institutions and disband this nonsense they're teaching. Heck who knows, a few years down the line you might even win a few nobel prizes for countering both fundamental organic chemistry and a few medical inaccuracies.
SkinnyPupp
10-13-2009, 08:10 PM
This is going no where and is entering levels of trolling. The points I make are based off the science behind them, and by explaining the systems all I've gotten were responses such as "idiotic" or "10 years behind." If your belief stands true, then I suggest you apply your vast nutritional knowledge to a few educational institutions and disband this nonsense they're teaching. Heck who knows, a few years down the line you might even win a few nobel prizes for countering both fundamental organic chemistry and a few medical inaccuracies.
:lol good one
I got trolled. You win.
trollguy
10-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Where did you go for schooling SkinnyPupp? You seem very knowledgeable and up to date! Very impressive.
hal0g0dv2
10-13-2009, 09:42 PM
Where did you go for schooling SkinnyPupp? You seem very knowledgeable and up to date! Very impressive.
the internet
google search, you would be surprised at the hundreds of millions of articles there are
SlySi
10-14-2009, 11:41 AM
Actually you are eating the female gonads of the urchin (ovaries)
I am totally serious. If you are not ignorant, then you would realize that cholesterol is only "bad" if the ratio of HDL > LDL, good LDL > bad LDL, and HDL > Triglycerides is bad. The way to properly correct all three ratios is to eat sources of GOOD cholesterol. That means natural sources from animals. Eggs, fat on meat, etc. You might have "high cholesterol" overall, but your actual detailed cholesterol profile will be vastly improved.
So if you have shitty cholesterol, or want to stay healthy and live longer, you should eat all the cholesterol you can. Keeping in mind that there is no correlation at all between high cholesterol and heart disease (contrary to what some bullshit studies attempt to say). It's inflammation and high insulin spikes that you want to avoid, not "high cholesterol".
Is there a such thing as eating too much uni? Probably.. How much bottom-feeding sea creature ovaries do you really want to ingest? But is it a concern for your cholesterol levels if you eat a lot of it? (which is what I brought up in the first place) absolutely not. Quite the opposite actually.
Uni (and other food sourced from sea animal ovaries) is actually really good for you - it is packed with protein, has a ratio of protein/fat of about 3:1, and much of the fat contains really good cholesterol. There is absolutely no reason to limit your intake of uni, beyond feeling sick from eating such rich food of course ;)
SG!
Nice post.
Didnt realize how messed up getting UNI is.
Still love eating it.
Skinnypupp,
Nice post as well.
Cant say I was ignorant, rather mis informed.
After reading your debate's and looking into these ideas further.
Iv actually learned allot more about HDL + LDL.
Gumby
10-14-2009, 11:48 AM
Can someone give me examples of sources of BAD cholesterol?
the internet
google search, you would be surprised at the hundreds of millions of articles there are
Yes because clearly everything you read on the internet is 100% true.
No bias.
Not people trying to bilk money from you.
The world is a such a nice place, I think I'll go buy some more Wolf Shirt so I can attract more wimmenz!!111
http://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Mens-Three-Short-Sleeve/dp/B002HJ377A
Jermyzy
10-14-2009, 03:01 PM
So you just eat the roe then?
trollguy
10-14-2009, 06:27 PM
the internet
google search, you would be surprised at the hundreds of millions of articles there are
Well, seems like he's got a pretty solid foundation which you can't really attain just by reading articles on the net.. can you?
I'd imagine Skinnypupp has had at least some sort of formal education?
kazuki
10-14-2009, 06:32 PM
Well, seems like he's got a pretty solid foundation which you can't really attain just by reading articles on the net.. can you?
I'd imagine Skinnypupp has had at least some sort of formal education?
I feel the opposite. From what I get from his responses is that he does not have a health science background.
SkinnyPupp
10-14-2009, 06:32 PM
Can someone give me examples of sources of BAD cholesterol?
Any fat that has been converted from its natural form. Trans fats. If you are buying cookies or crackers or something, and the ingredients say "vegetable oil" or something, then it has this bad fat. If it says palm oil, coconut oil, or butter, then it's fine as long as it's not hydrogenated. Margarine is just about the worst thing you could put into your body.
So you just eat the roe then?
Well I suppose you could also eat the feces-filled guts too, if you really want to. I won't guarantee you won't get sick though :lol
Well, seems like he's got a pretty solid foundation which you can't really attain just by reading articles on the net.. can you?
I'd imagine Skinnypupp has had at least some sort of formal education?
There are a lot of people a million times smarter than I am, with "formal educations". Those are the people I learn from. And not everyone has an agenda. The academics that are feeding you bullshit almost certainly do though.
either way, its so freakin rich, you cant eat it like any other food.
a bit at a time is good
SkinnyPupp
10-14-2009, 07:07 PM
This is how they do it in Hokkaido (either this, or 50/50 with salmon roe)
http://a7.idata.over-blog.com/500x375/0/16/76/03/manger/uni-don.jpg
God I can't wait to go back
hal0g0dv2
10-31-2009, 10:17 AM
if u turn on food network right now lol Gordan Ramsey is catching them as we speak
kinda cool how they work around the tides the sea urchin
TOS'd
10-31-2009, 11:01 AM
This is how they do it in Hokkaido (either this, or 50/50 with salmon roe)
http://a7.idata.over-blog.com/500x375/0/16/76/03/manger/uni-don.jpg
God I can't wait to go back
omg that looks really really good right now. i love uni.
btw dont most japanese restaurants use pre packaged uni? cause at some places i see the little white tray/container which has like spots for the uni roe.
omg that looks really really good right now. i love uni.
btw dont most japanese restaurants use pre packaged uni? cause at some places i see the little white tray/container which has like spots for the uni roe.
i believe most restaurants use those little trays unless they state "fresh" or "live" which i would assume to be freshly prepared uni. which reminds me, when i went inside tsukiji, one of those trays could be had for as cheap as 800 yen :( no idea on the quality however.
SkinnyPupp
10-31-2009, 07:34 PM
I know Ichiro (in Steveston) uses fresh uni. IMO they are the best Japanese restaurant in Richmond.
TOS'd
11-07-2009, 10:33 PM
sry to bump but does anyone know where i can get this locally? ikura and uni over rice.
http://blog-imgs-19.fc2.com/s/o/r/sorajiro/uni-ikura-don.jpg
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