[achiam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8he8afjQyd8

As an aside, I currently own a Dyson vacuum. It fucking rocks; no joke.

[Alphamale]

Brilliant. Need to try one of these out IRL.

[q0192837465]

Are Dyson products really that good? I find it hard to justify the price

[unit]

As an aside, I currently own a Dyson vacuum. It fucking rocks; no joke.

it better for $500

[nack]

they are that good. i am a fan of dyson as well

[tonyvu]

soo curious to test one of these out

[hk20000]

The Dyson ball vac is fucking wicked.....you basically stay home and play some hockey on your floor and soon your floor will be squeaky clean.

http://nationalweeks.info/resources/_wsb_342x342_dyson+ball.jpg

all sorts of angle travel in all sorts of direction. Brilliant.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's not exactly "fanless"... The fan is just at the bottom instead.

My big issue with fans is the noise, not the "uncomfortable" wind they blow. And this sounds at least as loud if not louder than any fan I've heard.

[you!]

nice

[InvisibleSoul]

I got a Dyson vacuum a couple months ago, and it's amazing the amount of crap it pulls out of the carpet.

[achiam]

Are Dyson products really that good? I find it hard to justify the price

My homes have built in vacuums, but they are weak. Then I used other bag type vacuums with a beater brushes, but they were still weak.
The key difference I found when I upgraded to a Dyson cyclone, was when you empty the canister - the amount of ultra fine cement powder-like dust you see is just incredible.

When I used to empty the old bags of previous vacuums or even the collecting canisters of the in-home vacuums, I had never ever seen such fine dust.

Its like upgrading cars, once you know what the good shit is you'll never look back. And besides, the Dyson is a wise investment, the only thing that's ever broken or required maintenance is a belt for the beater brush. There are no bags to replace!

[achiam]

It's not exactly "fanless"... The fan is just at the bottom instead.

My big issue with fans is the noise, not the "uncomfortable" wind they blow. And this sounds at least as loud if not louder than any fan I've heard.

No, the fan is not just in the base. If you listen to his explanation of the aerodynamics, wind flows faster over curved surfaces. This causes a negative vacuum and pulls more air into it.
This is why he calls it a multiplier - the creation of the vacuum multiplies the air velocity caused by the in-base fan to a multiple of 16x.

His life story is pretty cool too:

Sir James Dyson (born Cromer, Norfolk, England, 2 May 1947), is an English industrial designer.

He is best known as the inventor of the Dual Cyclone bagless vacuum cleaner, which works on cyclonic separation. His net worth in 2008 was said to be £1.1 billion.[1]

Biography

Dyson is one of three children whose father, Alec Dyson, died of liver cancer in 1956. Dyson was educated at Gresham's School, Holt, Norfolk, from 1956 to 1965, where he excelled in long distance running: "I was quite good at it, not because I was physically good, but because I had more determination. I learned determination from it."[2] He spent one year (1965–1966) at the Byam Shaw School of Art (now the Central Saint Martins College of Art and Design), and then studied furniture and interior design at the Royal College of Art (1966–1970) before moving into engineering.

Dyson married Deirdre Hindmarsh in 1968. Her salary as an art teacher partially supported him while he developed his vacuum cleaner. The couple have three children: Emily, Jacob and Sam.[3]

Dyson paid £15 million for Dodington Park, a 300-acre Georgian estate in Gloucestershire, close to Chipping Sodbury. He and his wife also have a £3 million chateau in France, and a town house in Chelsea, London.[4] The Sunday Times Rich List 2008 estimated his fortune at £1.1 billion whilst Forbes magazine estimates it at £1 billion.

Dyson was chair of the board of trustees of the Design Museum, "the first in the world to showcase design of the manufactured object", until suddenly resigning in September 2004.[5] The museum had "become a style showcase" instead of "upholding its mission to encourage serious design of the manufactured object", in his words.

In 1997 Dyson was awarded the Prince Phillip Designers Prize. In 2005 he was elected as a Fellow at The Royal Academy of Engineering. He was appointed a Knight Bachelor in the New Year's Honours December 2006.
[edit] Early inventions

The Sea Truck, Dyson's first product, was launched in 1970 while he was at the Royal College of Art. His next product, the Ballbarrow, was a modified version of a wheelbarrow using a ball to replace the wheel. Dyson remained with the idea of a ball which his brother thought of, inventing the Trolleyball, a trolley that launched boats. He then designed the Wheelboat which could travel at speeds of 64 km/h on both land and water.
[edit] Vacuum cleaners
DC07 Dyson vacuum cleaner

In the late 1970s Dyson had the idea of using cyclonic separation to create a vacuum cleaner that would not lose suction as it picked up dirt. He became frustrated with his Hoover Junior’s diminishing performance: dust kept clogging the bag and so it lost suction. The idea of the cyclones came from the spray-finishing room's air filter in his Ballbarrow factory. While partly supported by his art teacher wife's salary, and after five years and many prototypes, Dyson launched the 'G-Force' cleaner in 1983. However, no manufacturer or distributor would launch his product in the UK as it would disturb the valuable cleaner-bag market, so Dyson launched it in Japan through catalogue sales.[2] Manufactured in bright pink, the G-Force had a selling price of £2,000 (British equivalent). It won the 1991 International Design Fair prize in Japan. He obtained his first U.S. patent on the idea in 1986 (U.S. Patent 4,593,429).

After failing to sell his invention to the major manufacturers, Dyson set up his own manufacturing company. In June 1993 he opened his research centre and factory in Malmesbury, Wiltshire. The product now outsells those of some of the companies that rejected his idea and has become one of the most popular brands in the United Kingdom. In early 2005 it was reported that Dyson cleaners had become the market leaders in the United States by value (though not by number of units sold). Note that the US was introduced to Dyson when root cyclone was implemented, so in the US there were no sales of the DC01 - DC05 Dual Cyclone vacuum cleaners. The Dyson Dual Cyclone became the fastest selling vacuum cleaner ever to be made in the UK.

Dyson engineers were determined to create vacuum cleaners with even higher suction. This was achieved by adding a smaller diameter cyclone to give greater centrifugal force. This led to a way of getting 45% more suction than a dual cyclone and removing more dust, by dividing the air into 8 smaller cyclones, hence the name root cyclone. Dyson's breakthrough in the UK market, more than 10 years after the initial idea, was through a TV advertising campaign that emphasized that, unlike its rivals, it did not require the continuing purchase of replacement bags. At that time, the UK market for disposable cleaner bags was £100 million. The slogan of 'say goodbye to the bag' proved more attractive to the buying public than a previous emphasis on the suction efficiency that its technology delivers. Ironically, the previous step change in domestic vacuum cleaner design had been the introduction of the disposable bag - users being prepared to pay extra for the convenience of dustless emptying.

Following his success the other major manufacturers began to market their own bagless vacuum cleaners. Dyson sued Hoover UK for patent infringement and won around $5 million in damages. His manufacturing plant moved from England to Malaysia, for economic reasons and because of difficulty acquiring land for expansion, leaving 800 workers redundant. The company's headquarters and research facilities remain in Malmesbury. Dyson later stated that because of the cost savings from transferring production to Malaysia he was able to invest in R&D at Malmesbury. Dyson employs more people in the UK than he did before the transfer of manufacturing to Malaysia.

In 2005, Dyson added the wheel ball from his Ballbarrow concept into a vacuum cleaner, creating the Dyson Ball, claiming it to be more manoeuvrable.
[edit] Further inventions

In 2002 Dyson created a realisation of the optical illusions depicted in the lithographs of Dutch artist M. C. Escher. Engineer Derek Phillips was able to accomplish the task after a year of work, creating a water sculpture in which the water appears to flow up to the tops of four ramps arranged in a square, before cascading to the bottom of the next ramp. The creation titled Wrong Garden, was displayed at the Chelsea Flower Show in the spring of 2003.[6] The illusion is accomplished with water containing air bubbles pumped through a chamber underneath the transparent glass ramps to a slit at the top from which the bulk of the water cascades down. This makes it appear that the water is flowing up, when actually a small amount of water diverted from the slit at the top flows back down the ramps in a thin layer.

In 2000 Dyson expanded his appliance range to include a washing machine. Called ContraRotator it had two rotating drums which moved in opposite directions. The range was coloured in the usual bright Dyson colours, rather than the traditional white, grey or black of most other machines. The item did not take off with the public and is no longer available.

In October 2006 Dyson launched the Dyson Airblade, a fast hand dryer. The Dyson Digital Motor produces an air stream flowing at 400 mph. This unheated air is channeled through a 0.3 millimetre gap, no thicker than an eyelash. A sheet of air acts like an invisible windscreen wiper to wipe moisture from hands.

Dyson has released a new vacuum cleaner called Ball technology. The idea for Ball technology came from an engineer studying new ways to steer. It started crudely - an old wand handle attached to a wheel. Eventually the wheel became a ball - an ideal home for the motor.

[Spectre_Cdn]

Its like upgrading cars, once you know what the good shit is you'll never look back. And besides, the Dyson is a wise investment, the only thing that's ever broken or required maintenance is a belt for the beater brush. There are no bags to replace!

I think the HEPA filters need to be replaced at some point :(

[achiam]

I think the HEPA filters need to be replaced at some point :(

Actually ya thats true, but according to my book every 3 years?
I cleaned mine several months ago; its the round donut ring filter - its black but if you scrub it in a basin of water all the ultra fine dust comes out, turning the water pitch black.
15 minutes later, the filter is bright blue!

[GodZilla]

The Dyson ball vac is fucking wicked.....you basically stay home and play some hockey on your floor and soon your floor will be squeaky clean.

http://nationalweeks.info/resources/_wsb_342x342_dyson+ball.jpg

all sorts of angle travel in all sorts of direction. Brilliant.

But when you empty the container does dusk not fly around in the air?
With a bagged vacuum all dirt stays in the bag and you get more in. With the cylinder type you have to empty it more often.

[achiam]

But when you empty the container does dusk not fly around in the air?
With a bagged vacuum all dirt stays in the bag and you get more in. With the cylinder type you have to empty it more often.

Nope! What the manual tells you to do, is detach the canister separation part, and wrap the bottom in a garbage bag. Then push the bottom trap door release trigger at the top of the arm, releasing all the dust/crap into the garbage bag. Then bring up the canister + arm slowly, and tie the garbage bag as you go.
When I first bought mine, I didn't bother reading the manual and just opened the door and dumped it into the toilet and inhaled LOTS of ultra fine dust - it was horrible!

Actually even with this cylinder, you only empty when its full - the advantage of course, is that the suction power does not decrease.

[StylinRed]

Are Dyson products really that good? I find it hard to justify the price

parents/i still using a couple Filter Queens my dad bought like 30 years ago for over a $1k

30 years later they're still going strong without issue except switching the rubber band on the brush once in a blue moon, i think these things have Lifetime Warranties too


i would have chucked it for a Dyson (cuz i think the commercials are cool) but i notice they only give a 5 year warranty and tested one out and it doesnt seem so hot...

[misteranswer]

I can not wait until he finally produces an affordable and small robotic vacuum cleaner.

[ienhz]

Just buy 30 normal fans instead

[ilvtofu]

yay I always wanted to put my head through a fan!

[skyxx]

The Dyson Vacuums work really well. It actually sucks out all the dirt and grit out of the carpets. You can use a regular vacuum and try to vacuum the floor. You may think it's clean but once you're done "cleaning" with the regular vacuum and you switch over to the Dyson. The Dyson picks up MORE dirt. Lol this sounds like an informercial but it's not it works!

Anyway, back on topic. I find this fan pointless lol.

[Volvo-brickster]

I read a consumer report a few months ago and they rated dyson mid to low pack

Hoover won

[SkinnyPupp]

No, the fan is not just in the base. If you listen to his explanation of the aerodynamics, wind flows faster over curved surfaces. This causes a negative vacuum and pulls more air into it.
This is why he calls it a multiplier - the creation of the vacuum multiplies the air velocity caused by the in-base fan to a multiple of 16x.
He can call it whatever he want, but there's still a fucking fan in there, and it makes a lot of noise.

[rsx]

Can this be used in aircraft technology?

[!e.lo_]

i saw this on digg
its pretty freaking cool looking.
from what i read, theres an impeller in the base of the fan, thats how air goes around the wing, causing a low pressure zone, and air around is drawn in.

[SkinnyPupp]

Can this be used in aircraft technology?
It is aircraft technology :lol

[JSALES]

cool

[wouwou]

I read a consumer report a few months ago and they rated dyson mid to low pack

Hoover won

cost probably factored in though

[vexor]

What he actually developed is a new version of the scramjet engine... guaranteed some military will use this technology on their new fighter jets

[JesseBlue]

so his hand dryer is the same as the on in narita airport...i wouldn't doubt that this will take off too as the idea is simple (as its already there) yet its for a common item...

[rsx]

It is aircraft technology :lol

Right, I think we've already got the wing technology pretty much down to a T.

[The_AK]

We got a Dyson and we're not going back. Its one hell of a vacuum. It does an excellent job getting all sorts of particles out of our carpet and picks up cat hair EASILY. Not only that but its very easy to clean! The one that we have gathers all particles in a small bin that get forced together, therefore, no dust particles flying around when you open it. Dump the shit in the garbage and start vacuuming again.

No hassle buying new bags ever again.

[skyxx]

This fan cost 300 US for the 12 inch model I think or was it 6 inch model...lol

[StylinRed]

300$ for the 10" and 330$ for the 12"

http://www.english.dysoncanada.ca/fans/

http://www.conranusa.com/searchlist.aspx?term=multiplier&language=en-US




I didn't know Dyson was a multi-billionaire!

[achiam]

http://dafoozeking.googlepages.com/DSC_0759.JPG
http://dafoozeking.googlepages.com/DSC_0760.JPG
http://dafoozeking.googlepages.com/DSC_0761.JPG
http://dafoozeking.googlepages.com/DSC_0762.JPG

Its hard to tell from this pic, but the bottom 2 cm of dust is ultra fine crap -- like cement dust!

[CRS]

The reviews on the net seem to like Hoovers more..

[achiam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEk80D3Vgws

[TheKingdom2000]

The reviews on the net seem to like Hoovers more..

what reviews?
if anyone had a choice between a dyson and a hoover.. are you kidding me?

that's like saying if you had a choice between a bmw and a ferrari.
obvs a bmw is a good car... but a ferrari is a ferrari..

The same with a hoover. I'm sure the hoover is great and for 1/6 of the price.
but i don't see how someone could like it more than a dyson.

I think the reviews ultimately come down to the cost.
Simply, the dyson costs too much. Therefore, for the cost/benefit the hoover vacuum wins?

But i cannot see someone liking a hoover over a dyson.

[CRS]

what reviews?
if anyone had a choice between a dyson and a hoover.. are you kidding me?

that's like saying if you had a choice between a bmw and a ferrari.
obvs a bmw is a good car... but a ferrari is a ferrari..

The same with a hoover. I'm sure the hoover is great and for 1/6 of the price.
but i don't see how someone could like it more than a dyson.

I think the reviews ultimately come down to the cost.
Simply, the dyson costs too much. Therefore, for the cost/benefit the hoover vacuum wins?

But i cannot see someone liking a hoover over a dyson.

You probably hit it bang on right there.

[skyxx]

Is it me or is the guy wearing shoes inside the house. No wonder he has random shit....:lol

CHILD LABOUR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnnZetHdBSk&feature=related

[Manic!]

Hover makes a cyclonic Bagless upright thats a Dyson clone.

http://www.hoover.com/product.aspx?model=UH70015&ds=false#

[slammer111]

I really wish there were some good Industrial Design programs here. Doesn't exist at UBC. :cry:

[misteranswer]

I really wish there were some good Industrial Design programs here. Doesn't exist at UBC. :cry:

Go to Emily Carr.

But don't be cheap and ruin your life. Go away for school.

[Marco911]

I read a consumer report a few months ago and they rated dyson mid to low pack

Hoover won

Exactly. Dyson is overpriced marketing hyped garbage for the $. They had an edge with the first product they built but the competition has since surpassed them. Hoover is a far better product for less $.

[bcedhk]

i dont like dyson and the bagless system cause I always find when you empty your bagless vac, lots of dust will fly back out.

We "invested" on a miele vacuum. it was almost the same price as dyson, but it offers 6 year warranty.. THe power is amazing, and the built quality is superb. we've been using it for 3 years now with no problem.

http://www.miele.ca/miele/canada/vacuums/vac_main.asp

(on a side note, kinda *gay* for us revscene guys to be talking about vaccums lawlz)

[Shizuma]

wow thoses fans look sexy.

[InvisibleSoul]

that's like saying if you had a choice between a bmw and a ferrari.
obvs a bmw is a good car... but a ferrari is a ferrari..


Actually, some of the Hoover models use the same cyclone technology as the Dysons, so they're on par performance-wise... so a better analogy might be the Dyson is to a Ferrari as a Hoover is to a GTR. I can't comment on other factors like build quality though.

[StylinRed]

filter queens are ferraris they're over 2x the price of a dyson tho

dyson is like a lexus... its really just a toyota

[slammer111]

^ Are Filter Queens that good?

The only thing I must say is that our has lasted us 20 years and counting. Never used any other major (other than those tiny ones) vacuums in the family.

[achiam]

Holy crapperz.
I'd never heard of the Filter Queen brand until this thread.
The website's products seem top end; I may have to buy one to test against the Dyson!

[monkeywrench]

wow just brilliant, using the air foils for differential pressure, amazing

[SkinnyPupp]

LOL @ people who buy "luxury brand" vacuum cleaners like Dyson and Filter Queen :lol

[Ilagon]

I tried the Dyson Airblade at the public washrooms at Park Royal. That shit dries your hands fast!!

[InvisibleSoul]

Another high-end brand that a lot of people rave about is Miele... they're more expensive than Dysons.

[achiam]

LOL @ people who buy "luxury brand" vacuum cleaners like Dyson and Filter Queen :lol

Why the LOL? Some people live different lives than others.
What you are suggesting is that you would laugh at people who only fly in business or first class.

[Hot Karl]

LOL @ people who buy "luxury brand" vacuum cleaners like Dyson and Filter Queen :lol

you seem like a really cool guy that folks would really respect.

[SkinnyPupp]

Why the LOL? Some people live different lives than others.
What you are suggesting is that you would laugh at people who only fly in business or first class.
Because with business class, you get something in return for your money. By buying an expensive vacuum, you get... an expensive vacuum.

I can't believe you would even think of that argument...
you seem like a really cool guy that folks would really respect.
:lol Keep trying

[JesseBlue]

good technology but for the price..forget it...just like what someone said...but 10 or more for that price..heck just buy one cheapie fan and you'll be happy

[Great68]

Because with business class, you get something in return for your money. By buying an expensive vacuum, you get... an expensive vacuum.

I can't believe you would even think of that argument...

:lol Keep trying

You get what you pay for. Generally the higher priced items will have better components: Motors, gears, drives, housings etc...

It's like power tools, you could pay $150 for a Makita angle grinder, or you could pay $30 for a "Powertech" jobbie from walmart...

Guess which one's gear drive is going to melt after cutting only 2 pieces of 1" box tube?

[Great68]

No, the fan is not just in the base. If you listen to his explanation of the aerodynamics, wind flows faster over curved surfaces. This causes a negative vacuum and pulls more air into it.
This is why he calls it a multiplier - the creation of the vacuum multiplies the air velocity caused by the in-base fan to a multiple of 16x.



He made a venturi tube. It's not exactly a scientific breakthrough...

[SkinnyPupp]

You get what you pay for. Generally the higher priced items will have better components: Motors, gears, drives, housings etc...

It's like power tools, you could pay $150 for a Makita angle grinder, or you could pay $30 for a "Powertech" jobbie from walmart...

Guess which one's gear drive is going to melt after cutting only 2 pieces of 1" box tube?
Generally, yes. But in the case of vacuum cleaners? I doubt it. I'm not comparing a $50 vacuum bought at a liquidation store to a $200 cleaner bought at Sears. I am more thinking of the idiots who spend like $1500 just because they think they are getting "the best".

And all I am doing is LOLing at them. People get so offended by such trivial things. I just think it's funny is all. :lol

[Great68]

Generally, yes. But in the case of vacuum cleaners? I doubt it. I'm not comparing a $50 vacuum bought at a liquidation store to a $200 cleaner bought at Sears. I am more thinking of the idiots who spend like $1500 just because they think they are getting "the best".

And all I am doing is LOLing at them. People get so offended by such trivial things. I just think it's funny is all. :lol

I agree that if the price of an item is disproportionately high compared to the rest of the market because the "name brand" factor, people that buy that item usually have more money than brains.

[SkinnyPupp]

I agree that if the price of an item is disproportionately high compared to the rest of the market because the "name brand" factor, people that buy that item usually have more money than brains.
Exactly. And I LOL at those people. You can imagine how amused I am each day, living in Hong Kong :D

[Soundy]

Generally, yes. But in the case of vacuum cleaners? I doubt it. I'm not comparing a $50 vacuum bought at a liquidation store to a $200 cleaner bought at Sears. I am more thinking of the idiots who spend like $1500 just because they think they are getting "the best".


It's the difference between a vacuum you have to replace every few years, and something that your grandchildren will still be using.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's the difference between a vacuum you have to replace every few years, and something that your grandchildren will still be using.
http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/thumbs-up.jpg

[achiam]

Because with business class, you get something in return for your money. By buying an expensive vacuum, you get... an expensive vacuum.

I can't believe you would even think of that argument...

:lol Keep trying

Are you kidding me??? I have dust allergies; this is why I bought a better than average vacuum machine. I also have air purifiers running 24/7.

[RabidRat]

might be a good idea for a higher CFM/dB fan if it can accelerate the airflow by 16x

[MG1]

As far as "bagless" vacuums go, Dyson is the one to get. It's hard to compare vacuums. They all do what they are supposed to do to various degrees. Features and longevity, as well as ergonomics play an important part in deciding which one to get. Then there's filtration. Allergy sufferers, which I am, need to pay attention to filtration systems - HEPA (true HEPA)

I have a Miele vacuum at home that has lasted 16+ years. The hose is acting up and it will cost quite a bit to get it replaced. Everything else works fine. A new Miele is not an option anymore, because the quality of their products has dropped over the years. I was looking around for a replacement and liked the idea of the Dyson. It's so cool and you can see the dust/dirt/debris collect in the canister. Wife says no. Whenever we look for stuff to buy, my wife researches stuff like mad. It takes months before she decides on something - very thorough. No complaints from me, as she is usually right about these things. She says the Dyson is not good at all compared to other makes and models.

One product that really got our attention was a Sebo. Awesome machines and very well built. German, to be exact. A little pricey, but well worth the money. 5 star hotels and large institutions use them. Anyway, our house is all hardwood floors, so any vacuum would do. It all came down to ergonomics and pricing. Guess what we got? Two uber tiny Samsungs. One with HEPA and one with normal filtration. We are going to get the Meile fixed for upholstery and whatnot.

I was looking forward to the Sebo, because it came with a buffer attachment for hardwood floors. It really looks like it will last a long, long, time.

Vacuums are like cars. Some people are so loyal to certain brands. My Aunt swears by Electolux. I have no idea why.

Anyway, this thread is now about vacuum cleaners, LOL.

One more thing, the Dyson is probably popular with the guys. It has the cool factor.

[Gumby]

I love the local discussion on vacuums. :)

I currently have a dinky Dirt Devil (yeah, it's a bagless canister vacuum) - it's not bad, but probably doesn't have the greatest sucking power. If there's nothing technically wrong with it, I find it hard to justify buying a new one - especially if I'd be plunking down several hundred $$ on a Dyson.

[Preemo]

He can call it whatever he want, but there's still a fucking fan in there, and it makes a lot of noise.

You are taking the general idea out of context. You can obviously see what the idea is about.

[LiquidTurbo]

I am impressed.

[.Renn.Sport]

LOL @ people who buy "luxury brand" vacuum cleaners like Dyson and Filter Queen :lol

being able to spend $1500 on a vacuum cleaner should be able to afford a maid.... :haha:

[MG1]

being able to spend $1500 on a vacuum cleaner should be able to afford a maid.... :haha:

That's funny.


I spent a tonne of money on aftermarket shit for my cars. Maybe I can afford a chauffeur.;)

[SkinnyPupp]

You are taking the general idea out of context. You can obviously see what the idea is about.
Not really. To me, the only improvement one could make to a floor-standing fan would be to make it silent. Dyson not only completely failed at that, but actually managed to make it noisier. Yeah it looks all whacky and everything, but it's not significantly better in any way. I am not convinced that fans are annoying because they "chop the wind". Whatever :lol

So what he has done is find another way to market something really expensive to people with more money than brains. For that, he gets my props ;)

[XxFcukxX]

fans for ballers

[skyxx]

That's funny.


I spent a tonne of money on aftermarket shit for my cars. Maybe I can afford a chauffeur.;)

That gave me an Idea. But it looks stupid for me to hire a chauffeur driving my GTI. :lol

[InvisibleSoul]

Generally, yes. But in the case of vacuum cleaners? I doubt it. I'm not comparing a $50 vacuum bought at a liquidation store to a $200 cleaner bought at Sears. I am more thinking of the idiots who spend like $1500 just because they think they are getting "the best".

And all I am doing is LOLing at them. People get so offended by such trivial things. I just think it's funny is all. :lol
You specifically mentioned Dyson in your LOL, but you can get a Dyson for like $300... seems like a bit of a contradiction there.

[SkinnyPupp]

You specifically mentioned Dyson in your LOL, but you can get a Dyson for like $300... seems like a bit of a contradiction there.
I wouldn't LOL at anyone for buying a $300 vacuum cleaner. Just the idea of buying a vacuum cleaner because of brand and high price.

But you already knew that, so I don't know why you bothered to write that...

[InvisibleSoul]

I wouldn't LOL at anyone for buying a $300 vacuum cleaner. Just the idea of buying a vacuum cleaner because of brand and high price.

But you already knew that, so I don't know why you bothered to write that...
Well, not that I really feel a need to defend my decision to buy a Dyson a couple months ago when I was shopping for a new vacuum, but it definitely wasn't because of the brand name and price. It was because I wanted a vacuum that works well and is reliable, and from my research, Dysons seemed to fit the bill. It cost me $369 plus tax. How much better is this compared to a $100 or $200 vacuum? I don't know, but from what I read, it should be better. What I do know is that it blows my crappy old $50 vacuum away in terms of what it pulls out of the carpets.

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup that makes sense. I think I spent about $200 on a Samsung vacuum. I can't imagine vacuums being much better than this one.. It does what it's supposed to, and I am happy.

Actually most of my appliances are Samsung, they have all been good and have the best warranties.

[124Y]

Bump. Just came across this video. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNcjkZ6d0w

[Ferra]

No, the fan is not just in the base. If you listen to his explanation of the aerodynamics, wind flows faster over curved surfaces. This causes a negative vacuum and pulls more air into it.
This is why he calls it a multiplier - the creation of the vacuum multiplies the air velocity caused by the in-base fan to a multiple of 16x.

this "multiplier" thing is such bullshit...it is funny how he says the fan moves "hundreds of gallons of air per minute", instead of just giving you a CFM rating like every other fans manufacturer do.
I am sure if you convert its "hundreds of gallons per minute" to CFM, the fan isn't any more efficient or stronger than any regular fan out there.

Small fan blade + fast RPM probably means noisy as well too.

[q0192837465]

^ it's not really a fan per say. He said that it'll feel more like a breeze. I think it's useless but for argument sake it is not a fan as we know it.

[Manic!]

this "multiplier" thing is such bullshit...it is funny how he says the fan moves "hundreds of gallons of air per minute", instead of just giving you a CFM rating like every other fans manufacturer do.
I am sure if you convert its "hundreds of gallons per minute" to CFM, the fan isn't any more efficient or stronger than any regular fan out there.

Small fan blade + fast RPM probably means noisy as well too.

A 100 gallons is 13.4 CFM. so if its moving 300 GPM its moving 40.2 CFM
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/flow-units-converter-d_405.html


So it moves less air than a $10 120 mm case fan. It moves 47 CFM

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=33852&vpn=D12SL%2D12%2DRED%2FBLACK&manufacture=Yate%20Loon

I call Dyson fail.

[Vansterdam]

looks preety sweet though

[JesseBlue]

Bump. Just came across this video. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNcjkZ6d0w

well worth my 2min 7sec

[woob]

Semantics, I know, but it's not a fan. It's an impeller.

[misteranswer]

For $300, this better damn well be the best fan man will ever make.

[woob]

tbh, it seems more like an engineering exercise than a true consumer product.

[bcedhk]

miele vaccums is way better. built quality is 1000% better than the plastic junk that dyson makes. our dyson vaccum at work broke after 5 months of use.

[J____]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNcjkZ6d0w&feature=related

[JesseBlue]

^ look up 10 post

[CP.AR]

that fan is freaking bullshit.

I bought it. tried it.. went "meh" just got :trolled:.

returned it and returned to my "fan" fan... none of this bullshit "fanless" fan.

[SkinnyPupp]

You don't even have to see it in person to know it's bullshit. It just moves the fan to the base. There's still a fan, it just gets distributed differently. It's still loud (probably louder than most normal fans) so what's the point? To get rid of BUFFETING? OMG BUFFETING

[jackmeister]

do they sell it here?

[achiam]

miele vaccums is way better. built quality is 1000% better than the plastic junk that dyson makes. our dyson vaccum at work broke after 5 months of use.

Yup! Miele is pretty much top of the line, but also costs much more than Dysons! There is a test on youtube by a dude using a particle counter, and he runs a Dyson and a Miele -- the advantage of the Miele is that its exhaust had something like 42 particles per 1000, whereas the Dyson was at like 300 or something much higher.

The other argument however, is that it remains unclear as to the suction power of the Miele as (when I last researched), they still ran on filter bags.

EDIT: Actually not much more; Dysons cost about $350 CAD, and I found some Mieles that go for about the same!

[AzNightmare]

LOL, who bumped this old thread. Thought it was new news until I looked at the date.

But yeah... I don't have any problems with a normal fan...

This thing sounds loud, cause of the small fan it uses.
Smaller fan = higher rpm = louder

[Gt-R R34]

this thread....makes me want to go research on vaccums.

[Senna4ever]

miele vaccums is way better. built quality is 1000% better than the plastic junk that dyson makes. our dyson vaccum at work broke after 5 months of use.

this thread....makes me want to go research on vaccums.

One of the best vacuums out there are the Rainbow vacuums. They use a water based filtration system and it's absolutely amazing. Super powerful, built like a tank. My parents bought one due to my mom's bad allergies, and it's really helped. It's a bit of a pain overall to use because you have to empty the water tank after every use, but the bloody thing rocks. The one big problem is that it costs $2500 - which is why we haven't bought one yet, and we just go borrow it from them once in a while.

Paper or fibre filter based vacuums need to have the filter replaced often, and the efficiency of the filter plummets after about 15 minutes of use, but water based filters operate at maximum efficiency all the time.

http://www.rainbowsystem.com/rainbowsystem/main

[achiam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RveYYGg6hzU

This guy did a test on the Rainbow and a Miele! Not sure how accurate it is!

[achiam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ

Here's the same guy testing the Dyson vs the Miele

[Sandman]

I had no idea people were so passionate about vacuums...

[Noir]

I had no idea people were so passionate about vacuums...

It's probably because the core demographic of RS is growing up :D

It's possibly the same reason why I somehow found myself reading all 5 pages.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm not much into vacuums like others here seem to be, but to me it seems like Dyson = the Apple of home appliances.

[Ferra]

One of the best vacuums out there are the Rainbow vacuums. They use a water based filtration system and it's absolutely amazing. Super powerful, built like a tank. My parents bought one due to my mom's bad allergies, and it's really helped. It's a bit of a pain overall to use because you have to empty the water tank after every use, but the bloody thing rocks. The one big problem is that it costs $2500 - which is why we haven't bought one yet, and we just go borrow it from them once in a while.


what??? i brought my canister water based filtration vacuum for $45! that thing was super ugly tho. (red blue black plastic)
but it works amazingly well and powerful.

Having to fill the vacuum with water everytime u use it is quite annoying tho...for example, sometime you just want to use it for 2 seconds to clear up some dust.

[MoBettah]

You guys do know it has a fan inside right? It's just hidden inside the base... it's what sucks the air in.

[Alatar]

You guys do know it has a fan inside right? It's just hidden inside the base... it's what sucks the air in.

Really? That's amazing! I had NO IDEA!

Please read the thread fully before posting the obvious.

[Kim Jong Un]

You guys do know it has a fan inside right? It's just hidden inside the base... it's what sucks the air in.

Captain Obvious strike again!! :)

[!LittleDragon]

I saw this thing at Fry's down in Las Vegas a few weeks ago. The fan in the base is bloody loud.

[taylor192]

I really wish there were some good Industrial Design programs here. Doesn't exist at UBC. :cry:

Carleton had a fantastic program, and Ottawa is cheaper with more engineering jobs... if you're still looking for work.

[gdoh]

http://i32.tinypic.com/21jq4r9.gif

[wasabisashimi]

Not really. To me, the only improvement one could make to a floor-standing fan would be to make it silent. Dyson not only completely failed at that, but actually managed to make it noisier. Yeah it looks all whacky and everything, but it's not significantly better in any way. I am not convinced that fans are annoying because they "chop the wind". Whatever :lol

So what he has done is find another way to market something really expensive to people with more money than brains. For that, he gets my props ;)

Sorry, but i'll have to agree with him here. Dyson fan is just a gaget looking piece of art, but a 10 dollar fan from china gets the job done too. Also in asia, there are way more "quiet" blade-style fans out there. Dyson really did not improve.

For someone who grew up on the western world, they would've never seen fancy fans from asia (japan, hk, taiwan), therefore this dyson product is truely a winner in its marketing strategy

Just take a look at the rice cookers or portable Air conditioning sold at london drugs/ home depot. Those things are so shitty compare to the ones you see in asian department stores