[keitaro]

Adobe has released Lightroom 3 Beta! Going to try on my new MBP. I was thinking of buying lightroom 2, but seeing LR3 beta release, i am going to wait until it goes gold before i buy.

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2009/10/lightroom_3_beta_now_available.html

download
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom3/

[keitaro]

found this video on youtube which shows some of the new improvements and additions to LR3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXwwMg7UWEs

[Ronin]

Arg...just as I was getting used to LR2.

[Senna4ever]

LR3 does an amazing job with the Canon 7D RAW files. Kinda a shitty deal for me too, as I just bought LR2 a few months ago.

[niforpix]

LR3 does an amazing job with the Canon 7D RAW files. Kinda a shitty deal for me too, as I just bought LR2 a few months ago.

I'm sorry, you did what few months ago? :D ;)

[keitaro]

an upgrade would probably be cheeper for LR3 than buying full version i assume?

[Senna4ever]

an upgrade would probably be cheeper for LR3 than buying full version i assume?

Yup.

[rageguy]

lightroom is a great program and i am very happy that 3 beta is coming out! lightroom+plugins are very very powerful.

[SkinnyPupp]

I wouldn't trust a beta to handle my entire photo library! Might be fun to play around with though.

[J____]

man that video is so painful to watch the guy is boring as hell. im just goin to test it out myself and find it. or coles notes?

[keitaro]

I just used LR3 to process through a shoot yesterday, and I didn't come up with any problems. I did have problems while trying to remove files tho. It wouldn't group delete a bunch of files I selected.

So far LR3 works very well, and I am planning to buy it once it comes out

LR3 catalogs are not compatible with existing LR2 catalogs FYI.

[Soundy]

LR3 catalogs are not compatible with existing LR2 catalogs FYI.

will it convert them on install like lr1->lr2 did? probably a stupid question, but...
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[Senna4ever]

will it convert them on install like lr1->lr2 did? probably a stupid question, but...
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)
It should. It may not be activated in the current beta though. Looks like it'll be coming out in the Spring.

[keitaro]

Will LR3 have the same pricing as LR2 right now; $299 USD? I am guessing it could vary depending on the market, but it should be priced the same as a current LR2? Or would it be more expensive since its going to be newer?

[Senna4ever]

I'm guessing that it will be about the same.

[Mananetwork]

man that video is so painful to watch the guy is boring as hell. im just goin to test it out myself and find it. or coles notes?

He was putting me to sleep, I had to turn it off!

[J____]

He was putting me to sleep, I had to turn it off!

yea i did too. got through maybe 50 secs of it.

[Senna4ever]

Whatever they (adobe) do, post processing is still going to be a pain in the ass. :p

[skyxx]

He was putting me to sleep, I had to turn it off!

I was about to stab myself with a fork I had.

[Slo40]

Anyone else notice extra grainy areas at 100% crop compared to LR 2?

[Senna4ever]

Anyone else notice extra grainy areas at 100% crop compared to LR 2?

Give Adobe some feedback.

[peazs]

i had to turn it off as well... lol!

[Slo40]

The noise issue has already been addressed in the lightroom forum with examples. After all this is just a beta, so there will be many issues I'm sure. I was using the trial version of Lightroom 2 until my 30 days expired, and found it perfect for my needs since I'm not much of a photoshopper. I look forward to see how lightroom 3 in the final release. Now my problem is that I was about to purchase LR2, so do I wait and struggle through with the beta or still buy LR2 and upgrade after april when LR3 is supposed to be realeased...

[keitaro]

The noise issue has already been addressed in the lightroom forum with examples. After all this is just a beta, so there will be many issues I'm sure. I was using the trial version of Lightroom 2 until my 30 days expired, and found it perfect for my needs since I'm not much of a photoshopper. I look forward to see how lightroom 3 in the final release. Now my problem is that I was about to purchase LR2, so do I wait and struggle through with the beta or still buy LR2 and upgrade after april when LR3 is supposed to be realeased...

I am in the same boat as you. Going to wait until LR3 is released before I buy it.

[Senna4ever]

As of now, IMHO, Capture One 4 Pro is much better than Lightroom regarding RAW file conversion, colour management and general post-processing. Lightroom is much better than Capture One with DAM (Digital Asset Management) though.

The colour and detail rendition of Capture One is superb. While the new Adobe Lightroom 3 beta is promising from an image quality standpoint, it still has the annoying feature of differential sharpening across the image, applying much less in deep shadows. This makes some images look a little "over-processed" at times, something that Capture One thankfully, since version 4 on, does not seem to do anymore. Depending on the image, sometimes I do prefer Adobe's approach and other times I prefer the more uniform Capture One approach, despite the white speck issue (with 7D RAW files). BTW, I can minimize the white specks in Capture One with either the Luminance NR or the new Long Exposure NR, but they both have too much of an impact on image sharpness in the cases I have tried. Using Dust and Scratches in Photoshop to get rid of the specks is far more effective and with the settings at radius 1, threshold 40 (or thereabouts) can easily be fixed almost automatically in Photoshop, but it would be awesome if one could avoid that step. This has virtually zero impact on regular image detail too.

So, if DAM is more important to you than ease of post-processing, get Lightroom. If you find that your images need to have very thorough colour management, then Capture One is for you.

[Slo40]

Thanks Senna, I hadn't heard of Capture One before. I'm gonna download it and try it before I buy anything now.

[J____]

1 thing i dont understand is how Lightroom changes the exposure and contrast of an image from it's 'loading preview' to the loaded image. i dont get it, which is the correct one? The loading preview looks alot more 'raw' then when it's fully loaded, and no i dont have the auto process features turned on. Does LR3 still do this?

[peazs]

1 thing i dont understand is how Lightroom changes the exposure and contrast of an image from it's 'loading preview' to the loaded image. i dont get it, which is the correct one? The loading preview looks alot more 'raw' then when it's fully loaded, and no i dont have the auto process features turned on. Does LR3 still do this?

yea, i notice that too. i think it's only to RAW files though where it adds +50 brightness and +25 contrast lol

[J____]

i think so. but its anoying. and when you put those adjustments back to 0, the image look completely off and no where near how it was shot. I just dont get it.

[peazs]

^ ditto
there has to be an explanation somewhere lol

[keitaro]

Totally forgot about this thread, but beta2 has been release for LR3 beta.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom3/


New in Lightroom 3 Beta 2

Improved performance throughout the application for faster importing and loading of images
Native tethered shooting support for select Nikon and Canon DSLR cameras
Luminance noise reduction has been added to the previous color noise reduction improvements available in the first public beta for outstanding overall high ISO quality
Support for importing and managing video files from DSLR cameras for better overall photographic workflow control
Improvements to the import experience in the first beta to reflect public feedback
Improved watermarking functionality from the first beta to reflect public feedback
Lightroom 3 beta 2 builds on the enhancements introduced in the first Lightroom 3 beta release:

Brand new performance architecture, building for the future of growing image libraries
State-of-the-art noise reduction to help you perfect your high ISO shots
Watermarking tool that helps you customize and protect your images with ease
Portable sharable slideshows with audio—designed to give you more flexibility and impact on how you choose to share your images, you can now save and export your slideshows as videos and include audio
Flexible customizable print package creation so your print package layouts are all your own
Film grain simulation tool for enhancing your images to look as gritty as you want
New import handling designed to make importing streamlined and easy
More flexible online publishing options so you can post your images online to certain online photo sharing sites directly from inside Lightroom 3 beta (may require third-party plug-ins)*

[Matsuda]

1 thing i dont understand is how Lightroom changes the exposure and contrast of an image from it's 'loading preview' to the loaded image. i dont get it, which is the correct one? The loading preview looks alot more 'raw' then when it's fully loaded, and no i dont have the auto process features turned on. Does LR3 still do this?

I hate that too, i haven't figured out how to make it stop doing that

[Senna4ever]

1 thing i dont understand is how Lightroom changes the exposure and contrast of an image from it's 'loading preview' to the loaded image. i dont get it, which is the correct one? The loading preview looks alot more 'raw' then when it's fully loaded, and no i dont have the auto process features turned on. Does LR3 still do this?

yea, i notice that too. i think it's only to RAW files though where it adds +50 brightness and +25 contrast lol

^ ditto
there has to be an explanation somewhere lol

I hate that too, i haven't figured out how to make it stop doing that
What you're initially seeing is the embedded JPEG with the in-camera settings applied, and when the image finishes rendering, that is the RAW image. Unfortunately, there is no way to disable it.