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drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 12:49 PM
Fuck vancouver weather - hot, cold, hot, cold, rainy, hot, cold, rainy, hot.

but that's another thread...

anyway, my defoggy thing in my car is broken, so my car's constantly fogged up. I use AC at full blast, but that takes time still for the back window and can be a pain in the cold weather.

So I found this rainx stuff - not the kind you spray outside, but an inside window one that's supposed to keep fog away. It did the job, but now the windows instead of fogging up, HAZE UP...which is pretty much the same thing.

Anyone got any alternatives or options to keep fog out?! HELP

jlenko
10-27-2009, 01:08 PM
Uhh... I'm no rocket scientist, but here's an idea...

Fix the defroster grid.

taylor192
10-27-2009, 01:10 PM
Door seals, keep the moisture out.

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 01:10 PM
Uhh... I'm no rocket scientist, but here's an idea...

Fix the defroster grid.


uhh... I'm not a rocket scientist either, which is why I'd rather go for a cheaper solution for something that can easily be fixed in a much cheaper manner.

tiger_handheld
10-27-2009, 01:24 PM
use the Heater at full blast...

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 01:27 PM
use the Heater at full blast...

hmm i thought if it's cold outside, the fog happens because inside my car it's not the same temperature as outside? So wouldn't heater make it worse? Or am i way off here??

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 01:33 PM
Door seals, keep the moisture out.

is it easy to seal the doors better? Sounds expensive, am i wrong?

!SG
10-27-2009, 01:37 PM
check to see if u blew the fuse first. thats probably the easiest.

and isnt there those defrost quick fixes u can buy at canadian tire. it fixes that wire grid to defrost.

when blasting full heat, leave a little bit of window open for the moist air to escape. then ur windows wont be so frosted.

StylinRed
10-27-2009, 01:39 PM
wipe it off

shenmecar
10-27-2009, 01:39 PM
I turn my heater on when my front windshield is fogged.

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 01:40 PM
check to see if u blew the fuse first. thats probably the easiest.

and isnt there those defrost quick fixes u can buy at canadian tire. it fixes that wire grid to defrost.

when blasting full heat, leave a little bit of window open for the moist air to escape. then ur windows wont be so frosted.

yeah i've noticed window open+heat seems to work fastest, but MAKES NO SENSE TO ME! haha

i'll check out canadian tire. What happens right now, is when i press the defog thing, it does not press in nor does any light go on. I do hear a brief "tick" sound though. I'll check the fuse and check Canadian tire, good ideas

!Aznboi128
10-27-2009, 01:42 PM
hair dryer into 12v socket :)

!SG
10-27-2009, 01:55 PM
*watches drunkrussian get taken down by the cops and SWAT because they thought he was waving a gun around inside the car but instead he was just trying to defrost w/ a hair dryer...*


hahahaha

hair dryer into 12v socket :)

godwin
10-27-2009, 02:04 PM
Take it to a RevScene sponsor and let them take care of it.. it should not take more than 1 hour shop time. It sounds like there is a short somewhere (could be cuts on the grid).

RainX etc.. don't work well unless your windows are superclean.. usually after you claybar it.. inside and out. If you don't have the patience to figure out the defroster, you won't have the patience to apply rainX etc correctly and get the best results. Improper application causes smears etc and make things worse.

yeah i've noticed window open+heat seems to work fastest, but MAKES NO SENSE TO ME! haha

i'll check out canadian tire. What happens right now, is when i press the defog thing, it does not press in nor does any light go on. I do hear a brief "tick" sound though. I'll check the fuse and check Canadian tire, good ideas

hk20000
10-27-2009, 02:21 PM
also for those people who has an "incomplete grid" you can repair it quite cheaply with this stuff:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515SS17QYVL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

CorneringArtist
10-27-2009, 02:37 PM
For the moment I just use some clean rags to defog, I'm getting some RainX from family next time they visit from the States. Luckily, both my front and rear defogs work even though my car is old, I just clean off the drivers and passengers windows.

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 02:44 PM
RainX etc.. don't work well unless your windows are superclean.. usually after you claybar it.. inside and out. If you don't have the patience to figure out the defroster, you won't have the patience to apply rainX etc correctly and get the best results. Improper application causes smears etc and make things worse.

argh, so how do i take this crap off now? haha

roastpuff
10-27-2009, 02:50 PM
Window cleaner, like InvisibleGlass or something. Then apply RainX on clean window.

keifun
10-27-2009, 05:00 PM
another easy method:

if you can, park inside a garage.

?NR
10-27-2009, 05:09 PM
Shaving cream
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Marco911
10-27-2009, 05:41 PM
So to save a couple of bucks you would compromise your safety and drivers around you? That's why in more advanced civilizations like Europe, your car would be taken off the road for not passing TueV or MOT.

busdriverman
10-27-2009, 05:47 PM
before you applied the rainex, did you wipe the windows down with windex first?
maybe your windows were dirty, so when you applied the rainex on top of the contamination, this causes haze?

just a thought

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 05:52 PM
So to save a couple of bucks you would compromise your safety and drivers around you? That's why in more advanced civilizations like Europe, your car would be taken off the road for not passing TueV or MOT.

the point of this post is so that i can drive around without compromising my safety and drivers around me in an easier fashion than waiting for it to defrost using the hot air, as I'm currently doing. In "more advanced civilizations" people can also read properly.

Mugen EvOlutioN
10-27-2009, 05:55 PM
Uhh... I'm no rocket scientist, but here's an idea...

Fix the defroster grid.

I turn my heater on when my front windshield is fogged.

shit u two are the smartest men alive! i never thought about that!! wait..i meant the OP



too bad i ran out of fail

:(

CivicTypeRice
10-27-2009, 06:06 PM
^ So when are you getting your fails back?

Mugen EvOlutioN
10-27-2009, 06:13 PM
:haha::haha::haha:

why go off topic




lol NO clue

i hope soon
:D

yuusha
10-27-2009, 06:36 PM
At first I read the thread title as "Defragging your Windows in Vancouver's gay winter" lol.

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 07:42 PM
i've used windex etc. on car windshields before and it leaves smear marks I find. I bought a glass cleaner for cars from canadian tire and used it on the inside to get the inproperly applied rainx off for now. Car windows are now shiny as fuck lol...not sure what i'll do next...too scared to try rainx again!

PS
Applying anything to the inner windshield of an integra hatchback is one of the best and most dangerous stretches ever

GabAlmighty
10-27-2009, 08:00 PM
Open your windows, drive

SkinnyPupp
10-27-2009, 08:04 PM
To all idiots and ignorant people: You don't have to use COLD when you use A/C. Turn on your A/C, set it to WARM, and you will have instantly defogged windows, and warm air.

/thread

illicitstylz
10-27-2009, 08:23 PM
for rain-x, you shouldn't be using it on tinted windows I heard.

I use it for my windshield only (5 other windows are tinted) and make sure your window is clean, apply a light film, wait to dry( 10 minutes i'd say), then gently buff to get rid of hazing.

hk20000
10-27-2009, 08:29 PM
This morning I couldn't see jack out the rear....front yeah use A/C + warm air.

What is the quickest way to defrost that? warm air doesn't reach the back and the heater wires don't work fast enough. I just had to gtfo of there.

CorneringArtist
10-27-2009, 08:43 PM
Until I found my rear defog, I just used a small towel I had lying around. It's stupid to do from a practical standpoint, but it got my window clear enough to see out.

Leopold Stotch
10-27-2009, 10:23 PM
i find this an issue too


on my old cars i could blast the heat and the windows would defog


now in my G35 i have to use A/C, which doesn't bug me too much, cept the air is slightly less warm and my asian genes want me to turn it off.

illicitstylz
10-27-2009, 10:25 PM
plus it's harder on your car especially in the colder mornings to start up with AC/warm/defroster on

drunkrussian
10-27-2009, 10:28 PM
for rain-x, you shouldn't be using it on tinted windows I heard.

I use it for my windshield only (5 other windows are tinted) and make sure your window is clean, apply a light film, wait to dry( 10 minutes i'd say), then gently buff to get rid of hazing.

cool...kinda scared to try rainx and have to clean it off again, but i might try your method later

also isn't the tinting thing only for the outside rainx - the one that helps with repelling rain away from the outside of your windshield? Cause isn't tint put on the outside??? how could putting something on the inside affect it? Or am I wrong here?

jack_dangerous
10-27-2009, 10:44 PM
put a piece of cardboard on the outside of the window

/thread

illicitstylz
10-27-2009, 11:07 PM
cool...kinda scared to try rainx and have to clean it off again, but i might try your method later

also isn't the tinting thing only for the outside rainx - the one that helps with repelling rain away from the outside of your windshield? Cause isn't tint put on the outside??? how could putting something on the inside affect it? Or am I wrong here?

i'm pretty sure the tint is applied to the inside of the window/windshield since it's a lot less resistant to the weather . . plus I saw the installer install from the inside for my tint

jlenko
10-28-2009, 08:34 AM
To all idiots and ignorant people: You don't have to use COLD when you use A/C. Turn on your A/C, set it to WARM, and you will have instantly defogged windows, and warm air.

/thread

You failed to mention WHY this works.

When you turn on the A/C... there's an air dryer in the system that (hold the phone!) DRIES THE AIR that comes out of the vents... which when directed at the windows, dries them up. Holy shit.

As to the original poster... how about we try and help you fix the rear defroster grid then... what kind of car is this you're working on??

drunkrussian
10-28-2009, 08:39 AM
You failed to mention WHY this works.

When you turn on the A/C... there's an air dryer in the system that (hold the phone!) DRIES THE AIR that comes out of the vents... which when directed at the windows, dries them up. Holy shit.

As to the original poster... how about we try and help you fix the rear defroster grid then... what kind of car is this you're working on??

98 integra

DC5-S
10-28-2009, 09:22 AM
To all idiots and ignorant people: You don't have to use COLD when you use A/C. Turn on your A/C, set it to WARM, and you will have instantly defogged windows, and warm air.

/thread

How does A/C work with warm air? and what does A/C do to make the window defogging faster?

sonick
10-28-2009, 09:27 AM
How does A/C work with warm air? and what does A/C do to make the window defogging faster?

The cold air coming out from the AC passes through the heater core, thus the air becomes warm.

The AC makes the windows defog faster than simply hot air without A/C because the AC de-humidifies and dries out the air.

If you have AC in the car, AC+Hot Air+Closed Windows is best. Without AC, Hot Air + slightly open window works best.

sonick
10-28-2009, 09:32 AM
98 integra

If there are no scratches/breaks in the defrost grid (i.e. the thin black lines) on your rear window, then it could either be the connection between the wire and the grid, or an electrical issue (e.g. loose wire or harness, blown fuse, etc.)

In order of easiest to spot and fix, to most difficult to spot and fix:

Check the grid first. If it's scratched, use that repair kit posted earlier.

If the grid is completely intact, then check the fuse. Replace fuse if blown.

If fuse is good, check the wires going to the grid. If it's come loose/broken off, find a repair epoxy designed for that or take it to an RS Sponsor.

If the wire going to the grid is fine, it's an electrical issue, take it to an RS Sponsor to hunt down where it's loose.

cruz-in
10-28-2009, 09:33 AM
what worked for me was going to daiso at aberdeen and picking up some charcoal thing that removes moisture in the air.

left that in the car and it seriously helped.

$2.99 too! heheh and it lasts for 6 months.

if you guys go, its in the laundry area.

and boom windows dont fog no where near as bad

sonick
10-28-2009, 09:35 AM
what worked for me was going to daiso at aberdeen and picking up some charcoal thing that removes moisture in the air.

left that in the car and it seriously helped.

$2.99 too! heheh and it lasts for 6 months.

if you guys go, its in the laundry area.

and boom windows dont fog no where near as bad

Is that the same as the activated charcoal deoderizer stuff? Might give that a try.

moomooCow
10-28-2009, 04:21 PM
what worked for me was going to daiso at aberdeen and picking up some charcoal thing that removes moisture in the air.

left that in the car and it seriously helped.

$2.99 too! heheh and it lasts for 6 months.

if you guys go, its in the laundry area.

and boom windows dont fog no where near as bad

Wow i'm definitely going to try this... my rear chicken wing windows fog up like a bitch around this time of year.

Thanks :thumbsup:

LenovoTurbo
10-28-2009, 05:34 PM
Easiest thing first, if the orange light doesnt light up when pressed once, borrow a known good one and try it. This happened to me before and fixed it.

drunkrussian
10-28-2009, 05:40 PM
Easiest thing first, if the orange light doesnt light up when pressed once, borrow a known good one and try it. This happened to me before and fixed it.

borrow a known good button???

LenovoTurbo
10-28-2009, 05:44 PM
borrow a known good button???
Yup, borrow another button from someone and see if that fixes it. If it does then get one from a junk yard.

drunkrussian
10-28-2009, 06:04 PM
Yup, borrow another button from someone and see if that fixes it. If it does then get one from a junk yard.

hmm interesting lol

well i took a look and my back lines are def. cut off so i do need that canadian tire paint kit to fix it. However, it doesn't seem normal that the button doesn't even stay pressed in. Is this normal? anyone know?

LenovoTurbo
10-28-2009, 06:52 PM
hmm interesting lol

well i took a look and my back lines are def. cut off so i do need that canadian tire paint kit to fix it. However, it doesn't seem normal that the button doesn't even stay pressed in. Is this normal? anyone know?

My button doesnt stay in when pressed like the hazards. So i think its normal.

illicitstylz
10-28-2009, 07:19 PM
what worked for me was going to daiso at aberdeen and picking up some charcoal thing that removes moisture in the air.

left that in the car and it seriously helped.

$2.99 too! heheh and it lasts for 6 months.

if you guys go, its in the laundry area.

and boom windows dont fog no where near as bad

on my way lol

Amuse
10-28-2009, 07:42 PM
Only 3 lines work on my integra after pulling the rear tint. I need to buy that defroster repair kit too. How much is it? Is there a good brand or all work the same?

drunkrussian
10-28-2009, 07:44 PM
Only 3 lines work on my integra after pulling the rear tint. I need to buy that defroster repair kit too. How much is it? Is there a good brand or all work the same?

by the way...

when you got your tint put in, did they pull the lines too and it didn't work? Or tint doesnt affect anything?

sonick
10-28-2009, 07:50 PM
hmm interesting lol

well i took a look and my back lines are def. cut off so i do need that canadian tire paint kit to fix it. However, it doesn't seem normal that the button doesn't even stay pressed in. Is this normal? anyone know?

DUDE... I've told you like ten times, the button is not supposed to stay pushed in like your hazard button. It is supposed to spring back to it's original position. It is a soft switch that merely activates the defroster, which automatically turns off when it is done so that it does not overheat. EVERY car that has a rear defroster is like this. I am 100% certain on this.

As for tint, it doesn't affect anything when you put it in as the tint goes ON TOP of the grid. When you pull it off, the tint may be too strong and tear off peices of the grid along with the tint. As long as you keep the tint on, it will be fine (assuming it was working in the first place).

drunkrussian
10-28-2009, 07:54 PM
DUDE... I've told you like ten times, the button is not supposed to stay pushed in like your hazard button. It is supposed to spring back to it's original position. It is a soft switch that merely activates the defroster, which automatically turns off when it is done so that it does not overheat. EVERY car that has a rear defroster is like this. I am 100% certain on this.

As for tint, it doesn't affect anything when you put it in as the tint goes ON TOP of the grid. When you pull it off, the tint may be too strong and tear off peices of the grid along with the tint. As long as you keep the tint on, it will be fine (assuming it was working in the first place).

but his button has a little light man, A LITTLE LIGHT lol

LenovoTurbo
10-28-2009, 09:44 PM
but his button has a little light man, A LITTLE LIGHT lol

Yeah, don't yours have a orange light in the center of the button that indicates on/off?

drunkrussian
11-01-2009, 03:21 PM
hi guys,

so first of all, my lines in the back are fine. No broken ends or anything.

Next i checked the fuses, both under the wheel and in the back according to the manual. The front ones are fine and have power. The ones under the wheel were missing! I put them in and now when i press the rear defroster button, the little light comes on on the button.

BUT still no heat. I'm testing by turning on the heat to max, turning on the front defroster and also the rear defroster. I then touch the lines in the back windshield and it does not warm up!

one problem that MAY be causing this is that the space to put the fuse in is a very odd one. The fuses i put in are smaller - a connection is being made, as the light is going on and the relay is working, but it's still odd. If i try a diff sized fuse (normal ones), they're too big to fit, but if i try these smaller ones, there's a bit of space on the sides.

Wondering: a) if any integra owners have some input into the fuse thing
b) since it might not be the issue anyway, if anyone else has some further advice of what i could do to try to fix this, without going to a shop!

jlenko
11-01-2009, 11:19 PM
If you've got a multimeter... check for continuity from one side (and only one side) of the defog grid to the car's chassis (aka ground). The other side should get +12 volts with the button pushed (and the light on). If there's ground but no voltage.. then you've got a problem with the feed to the grid. Start checking the relay, wiring, etc..

I have a Cavalier.. the common problem is they burn up the connector behind the carpet by the driver's feet. Since I don't know squat about an Integra.. I can't give you specific things to check, sorry.

drunkrussian
11-02-2009, 09:36 PM
oddly enough, it seems to be working now..i think.

i mean, before i tested it by putting my finger to the inside and i felt no heat. However today i turned it on and it seemed to defog the back pretty fast...

lol i'm confused

sonick
11-02-2009, 09:48 PM
It doesn't FEEL warm.....

LenovoTurbo
11-02-2009, 10:56 PM
oddly enough, it seems to be working now..i think.

i mean, before i tested it by putting my finger to the inside and i felt no heat. However today i turned it on and it seemed to defog the back pretty fast...

lol i'm confused

Don't think you are supposed to feel the heat coming off the wires. And goodjob on fixing this! :thumbsup:

GabAlmighty
11-02-2009, 11:09 PM
oddly enough, it seems to be working now..i think.

i mean, before i tested it by putting my finger to the inside and i felt no heat. However today i turned it on and it seemed to defog the back pretty fast...

lol i'm confused
Meh, my car fixes itself from time to time. It's quite convenient

RabidRat
11-04-2009, 09:19 AM
Meh, my car fixes itself from time to time. It's quite convenient

:lol

+Kardboard+
11-04-2009, 01:32 PM
To all idiots and ignorant people: You don't have to use COLD when you use A/C. Turn on your A/C, set it to WARM, and you will have instantly defogged windows, and warm air.

/thread
Truth. In some cars the defoggogler-doo-hickey turns on the A/C automatically when you switch to it. Mine does.
Open your windows, drive
...and when your air blower is on its last legs and squeeks and howls even louder than your brakes, this is what must be done.

I.e., this is what I have do do. :p

bob_chan
11-04-2009, 05:16 PM
One super cheap way to prevent excessive cabin humidity is to save silica gel packs and just place them in your glove compartment! If it keeps moisture out of your foods it should help you do that for your car too!

illicitstylz
11-06-2009, 06:18 PM
what worked for me was going to daiso at aberdeen and picking up some charcoal thing that removes moisture in the air.

left that in the car and it seriously helped.

$2.99 too! heheh and it lasts for 6 months.

if you guys go, its in the laundry area.

and boom windows dont fog no where near as bad

anyone else vouch for this? i'd take the effort to go find parking in that horrid parking lot if this thing is actually efficient.

" no where near as bad " = no fog at all or still some?

TypeRNammer
11-06-2009, 06:23 PM
anyone else vouch for this? i'd take the effort to go find parking in that horrid parking lot if this thing is actually efficient.

" no where near as bad " = no fog at all or still some?

+1

need feed back on actual product before i walk into that night mare mall :haha:

Meowjin
11-06-2009, 08:06 PM
Shaving cream
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this.

seriously.

sonick
11-07-2009, 10:53 AM
anyone else vouch for this? i'd take the effort to go find parking in that horrid parking lot if this thing is actually efficient.

" no where near as bad " = no fog at all or still some?

+1

need feed back on actual product before i walk into that night mare mall :haha:

I got a small one yesterday, see how it goes. There were larger ones, but those ones were not self-enclosed, was afraid it'd spill everywhere if I took a hard turn.

valent|n0
11-08-2009, 07:30 AM
I dont' know if anyone already mention this
on two of my car I found the most effective way to de fog without the use of AC is
Match the temperature as outside. then POint the blower to your floor. blast it to medium
I set it to the second out of four setting

it does not always work. but when there is not too many people in the car I find it works way better than pointing the blower to the windshield

When your car is full of people then I have to use WarmAir + AC and point the blower to the windshield

+Kardboard+
11-08-2009, 01:14 PM
When your car is full of people then I have to use WarmAir + AC and point the blower to the windshield

When my car is full of people I make them wipe their own damn windows. :D
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CorneringArtist
11-08-2009, 01:22 PM
When my car is full of people I make them wipe their own damn windows. :D
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Same, I usually get my brother to wipe down my rear window if we're in a hurry, same goes for my passenger side view so the mirror heater can get to it faster.

shenmecar
11-10-2009, 02:35 PM
Same, I usually get my brother to wipe down my rear window if we're in a hurry, same goes for my passenger side view so the mirror heater can get to it faster.

I mean, thats why you're driving them right?

illicitstylz
12-01-2009, 02:05 PM
what worked for me was going to daiso at aberdeen and picking up some charcoal thing that removes moisture in the air.

left that in the car and it seriously helped.

$2.99 too! heheh and it lasts for 6 months.

if you guys go, its in the laundry area.

and boom windows dont fog no where near as bad

So i went yesterday while i was at the mall checking out the new ncix ( it looks great in there by the way ).

There's two, one is the charcoal one you mentioned and one is a dehumidifier one.

I bought the dehumidifier one ($2.24 taxes in) because the description said it's better aimed at removing the moisture in the room.

The charcoal one didn't explicitly say removing moisture in the room, it was more about eliminating odors.

Stuck it under my driver seat so i'll report back in a few days and see if it helps!

Mugen EvOlutioN
12-01-2009, 02:28 PM
didnt know those dehumidifier would work

shenmecar
12-01-2009, 02:32 PM
So i went yesterday while i was at the mall checking out the new ncix ( it looks great in there by the way ).

There's two, one is the charcoal one you mentioned and one is a dehumidifier one.

I bought the dehumidifier one ($2.24 taxes in) because the description said it's better aimed at removing the moisture in the room.

The charcoal one didn't explicitly say removing moisture in the room, it was more about eliminating odors.

Stuck it under my driver seat so i'll report back in a few days and see if it helps!

How does it look like?

Jayboogz
12-01-2009, 05:57 PM
Hey guys this is kinda ot.. My defogger for the windshield actually fogs up my windshield. For example if I had the top half of my windshield a little foggy I would turn on my defogger and It would fogg up the whole damn windshield and I'd be sitting there waiting for the damn windshield to defogg. Does anyone know what's wrong with my defogger?
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