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Old 11-01-2009, 08:31 PM   #1
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New Disneyland will be built in Shanghai

http://shanghaiist.com/2009/01/15/sh...y_sign_off.php

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According to China Daily, the Walt Disney Company and Shanghai's municipal government have finally signed a project proposal to build a Disneyland theme park on the Chinese mainland. Assuming the newspaper hasn't jumped the gun, this would put a stopper on the will they won't they drama that's shadowed the deal since it was a glint in Mickey Mouse's eye.

Under the proposal, Disney will take a minority stake of 43 percent in Shanghai Disneyland. The other 57 percent will be owned by a joint-venture holding company under the control of the Shanghai government.

The first phase of the project, which will cost both partners a total of RMB 24 billion, will include the park, a hotel and a shopping center over a 1.5 square kilometer spread near the Pudong airport. It'll open in 2014, hopefully bypassing the worst years of the world economic slowdown.

One interesting, but somewhat unexplored angle to this whole kit-n-kaboodle is what effect a real Disneyland will have on the fake Disneyland in Beijing, Shijingshan Amusement Park. Most of the most blatant copyright violations have been scrubbed, after it received a ton of unwanted international publicity last year, but some stains of its shanzhai Disneyland past still remain.

The video is a Japanese news report on fake Disneyland. The man at the end is a China expert talking about how a real Disneyland on the mainland will probably generate more crackdowns on copyright violations. Tough break, Shijingshan!
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HK is gonna go back and become a fishing village soon....
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I don't think so. HK still have simpler tax system compare to the mess up tax system in China. As long as HK keeps that and free trades I think It will be alright. HK is still more easily accessible for non Chinese than compare to Shanghai and has less pollution.
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why this is so silly
HK's disneyland is so closeby
politics is lame
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I don't think so. HK still have simpler tax system compare to the mess up tax system in China. As long as HK keeps that and free trades I think It will be alright. HK is still more easily accessible for non Chinese than compare to Shanghai and has less pollution.
yea but you can clearly see where the bulk of the capital is going with the central government obviously wanting shanghai to establish its name in Asia and the world. i am not saying shanghai isn't already is but still got some catch up to do comparing other major cities like london, tokyo, new york
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why this is so silly
HK's disneyland is so closeby
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just like the 2 in US?

I think its just money talking, after the americans the chinese probably have the most spending power right now.
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Why are you posting news that is from over ten months ago?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=avTohYxmTByc

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just like the 2 in US?

I think its just money talking, after the americans the chinese probably have the most spending power right now.
except ones on the pacific..the other one is on the southern atlantic
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HK Disneyland sucks anyway. The one in Shanghai will probably be more awesome and not a dump like the one in HK.
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^Don't diss the HK disneyland!!! The HK Disneyland has awesome pastries inside the Maxim bakery shop..
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everything sold in the shanghai disney will be pirated copies!
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everything sold in the shanghai disney will be pirated copies!
How about HK?
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except ones on the pacific..the other one is on the southern atlantic
With China, you also have of the fastest growing economies in the world and one billion more people than the USA to work with. Financially, it's probably a pretty safe investment...
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Disney HK was a horrible decision, the project is constantly losing billions of dollar annually.

1) The park is not located near the city center.
2) It is so damn small.
3) The climate is not good for this kind of outdoor themepark.
4) Customers (I am talking about the Chinese mainlanders) not will to buy their annual pass as they cannot go there often.
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Disney HK was a horrible decision, the project is constantly losing billions of dollar annually.

1) The park is not located near the city center.
2) It is so damn small.
3) The climate is not good for this kind of outdoor themepark.
4) Customers (I am talking about the Chinese mainlanders) not will to buy their annual pass as they cannot go there often.
^ and when the Shanghai Disneyland opens, they will not need to go to the one in Hong Kong.
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haha true! But they would just end up subsidizing Disneyland more with tax money.
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Disney HK was a horrible decision, the project is constantly losing billions of dollar annually.

1) The park is not located near the city center.
2) It is so damn small.
3) The climate is not good for this kind of outdoor themepark.
4) Customers (I am talking about the Chinese mainlanders) not will to buy their annual pass as they cannot go there often.
I agree that the park sucks but.

1) not relevant
2) Agree
3) I went in the summer, I almost died, and there's so many people that you can't go inside to chill, because anything indoors in damn crowded.
4) addendum: Mainlanders ruin the park as well, they push for no reason, the budge at every turn in the lineup, and they scream about everything. Not to mention hongers working there don't exactly give out a "disney" experience. They don't even speak English.
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does disney not own majority share in any of the other disneylands?
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