View Full Version
:
How come Toshiba TVs r quite a bit cheaper than other brands with comparable specs
q0192837465
11-06-2009, 12:40 PM
Yea, I'm wondering why Toshiba 46" 1080p TVs can go under $1,000. Is there something wrong with Toshiba stuff?
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-06-2009, 01:08 PM
nth wrong with toshiba
im the market for tv hunting
their 240hz 100,000 dyn contrast ratio after $500 off its still $2200 !
$200 dollar more than the 7 series samsung im gonna buy
it really depends on the model and spec...
those are smaller size tvs and models tat are almost obsolete with 60hrz
EDawg
11-08-2009, 02:19 PM
nth wrong with toshiba
im the market for tv hunting
their 240hz 100,000 dyn contrast ratio after $500 off its still $2200 !
$200 dollar more than the 7 series samsung im gonna buy
it really depends on the model and spec...
those are smaller size tvs and models tat are almost obsolete with 60hrz
120hz is starting to become the "standard" (like 1080p now) but i wouldnt say 60hz is obsolete just yet haha
Hondaracer
11-08-2009, 04:22 PM
i dont even really like the look of the 120hz stuff, dunno if i have to get used to it or what, but imo it looks way more like "Fast motion" then true life speed..
threezero
11-08-2009, 05:00 PM
Toshiba doesn't make bad TV.
Think of it like Hyundai of the TV world.
ime2006
11-08-2009, 07:03 PM
Samsung 52 B750 240Hz, 150,000 Dynamic Contrast Ratio.
Only at 1999.99 now!!!
ForbiddenX
11-08-2009, 07:14 PM
Damn 120hz is the standard now?
I just got a new TV last year. I think its 60hz.
twitchyzero
11-08-2009, 07:15 PM
sammie 52" 750 for $2k is a nice price
i was under the impression the human eye can only see up to 120Hz rendering 240Hz to be useless?
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-08-2009, 07:51 PM
^
tats the one im planning to pick up
but all local FS sold out currently
waiting for them to restock
i aint aiming for 240hrz,its useless, its the 150,000 contrast ratio that im aiming
Crowtservo
11-08-2009, 08:14 PM
sammie 52" 750 for $2k is a nice price
i was under the impression the human eye can only see up to 120Hz rendering 240Hz to be useless?
It's also been shown that you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 52" unless you're within like 6-8 feet of the screen (don't know the exact tv size and distance but it's close to that). But I think you're right, the 120Hz vs 240Hz is even harder to distinguish.
Eff-1
11-08-2009, 09:27 PM
My family has owned many Toshiba TVs. All of them have been flawless. Last year I bought a 40" Toshiba LCD with the super thin bezel. It was the only model/brand at the time with that feature and it looks fantastic. It has a bit of a flashlight effect in the upper right hand corner that sometimes bothers me, but other than that, so far so good.
ime2006
11-08-2009, 11:58 PM
^
tats the one im planning to pick up
but all local FS sold out currently
waiting for them to restock
i aint aiming for 240hrz,its useless, its the 150,000 contrast ratio that im aiming
Come to me, I will sell you one right the way..... :D:D:D:D:D
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-09-2009, 07:42 AM
^
cant lol
getting staff price
:D
underscore
11-09-2009, 08:14 AM
sammie 52" 750 for $2k is a nice price
i was under the impression the human eye can only see up to 120Hz rendering 240Hz to be useless?
I don't think it can see 120Hz. You can't even see 60Hz too well because that's what lightbulbs run at and a proper working one can't be seen flickering. I think 120Hz is just a nice doubling to be sure you have everything covered, 240Hz will take care of any mutant children with crazy eyes in future generations.
The only 120Hz TV I've watched though, made the movie look like crap. It sort of looked like it does in those "behind the scenes" bits where they show the guy running around on the set and its just doesn't look the same, it looked really fake and made me feel like I was there watching the guys running around on a set, and not actually where they were supposed to be in the story. Is it always like that?
mazdaboi
11-09-2009, 09:15 AM
^
tats the one im planning to pick up
but all local FS sold out currently
waiting for them to restock
i aint aiming for 240hrz,its useless, its the 150,000 contrast ratio that im aiming
I picked mine up on the weekend..... This tv is sooooooooo sexy!!!! Can't wait to get HD channels setup!!!
Do you know when they're gonna be restocking?
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-09-2009, 09:51 AM
^
where did u get it?
no clue
im stuck in this sinking boat
trying to find a person who has a van or truck
they have it at Langley warehouse...otherwise all local stores are completely out
:(
mazdaboi
11-09-2009, 10:40 AM
I must of grabbed the last one at the Lansdowne location....
I made my gf go and check it on Fri afternoon. Told her to pay first if they had any in stock.....
Just remember that all 120hz tvs are real "smooth" so it'll take you awhile to get use to it. It was REALLY weird watching it at my friend's apartment the first time we hooked it up but you get use to it eventually.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-09-2009, 12:10 PM
I must of grabbed the last one at the Lansdowne location....
I made my gf go and check it on Fri afternoon. Told her to pay first if they had any in stock.....
GOD DAMN!!!
right now seriously no where to be found..FUCK!
looks like i really have to go all the way to langley
:mad::mad::mad:
FUCK~
ime2006
11-10-2009, 12:51 AM
GOD DAMN!!!
right now seriously no where to be found..FUCK!
looks like i really have to go all the way to langley
:mad::mad::mad:
FUCK~
Our store had one today too....
And its sold now....
StylinRed
11-10-2009, 02:50 AM
Toshiba makes a solid tv, they always have and they were always able to offer the sets at a lower cost (probably cuz they own everything)
Mitsubishi is a nother solid set maker with low prices, although u cant really find them up here anymore all companies used to use parts from Mitsubishi, you can still get them from the states for a small fraction of what comparables cost
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 07:34 AM
Sharp ftw.
not anymore dude
2 years ago yes
now Samsung's 6/7 series rule everything
Our store had one today too....
And its sold now....
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
i seriously need one
god damn it
i heard now even the warehouse are all gone
one of the sales told me might have to wait until the 20th tats when u guys get large shipment
mazdaboi
11-10-2009, 09:04 AM
^ The 20th ain't too bad.... at least you'll have it before Christmas.
underscore
11-10-2009, 09:25 AM
Toshiba and Sharp make good TV's, Samsung makes great TV's. I think Sharps big thing was making them super slim if that's what you wanted most, idk if they still do but Samsung and Sony made their screens together so they only diff was the extra features, but the Sony one are mostly useless, unless you're using coax to connect basic cable to your new TV :lol
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 10:20 AM
ok this is starting to become retarded
all Samsung 7 series are sold out in the lower mainland
now should i just pick up this one?
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926HDS0010123878&catid=26554&PCName=tv%5Fsony&logon=&langid=EN
Sony Z series 52" 240hrz 100,000 contrast not as great as samsung 150,000 contrast....
there is V series buttom end, than Z series, than XBR
mazdaboi
11-10-2009, 12:34 PM
ok this is starting to become retarded
all Samsung 7 series are sold out in the lower mainland
now should i just pick up this one?
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926HDS0010123878&catid=26554&PCName=tv%5Fsony&logon=&langid=EN
Sony Z series 52" 240hrz 100,000 contrast not as great as samsung 150,000 contrast....
there is V series buttom end, than Z series, than XBR
Dude if you are gonna go with Sony, you should go check out Visions. They were willing to sell me the 46" XBR9 for $1788. That tv is basically the same quality as the Samsung. I just like Samsung better than Sony and that was my determining factor.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 12:38 PM
i checked out XBR version vs Z version
basically same shit spec, just different tv enhancement, otherwise spec is exactly the same
100,000 contrast for both models
slow response time 8ms for XBR ...WTF
Samsung 7 series is basically the top highest model for their LCD line up, 8 series has shittier spec but thinner
150,000 contrast, and 2ms response time
FUCK! guess im gonna have to wait....till they stock it up...sigh i cant wait, and i hate waiting. Wonna pop in the new COD on my new tv...and be like :eek::eek::eek: DAMN YO!
how you liking ur new 7 so far?
46" wont do the justice, i need 52" at least
mazdaboi
11-10-2009, 12:38 PM
http://www2.visions.ca/Catalogue/Category/Details.aspx?categoryId=15&productId=4434
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 12:44 PM
listed $2588?
and u hassel him enough that he is willing to sell for $1750?
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 12:47 PM
lol wtf
visions list 52" and 46" the same price for sony, $2588
weak visions dont have 7 series either
mazdaboi
11-10-2009, 12:52 PM
Fuck haven't really had time to enjoy it yet.... I just moved in a couple months ago so I've been busy furnishing my place.
Yeah man... picked up mw2 today and I can't wait to rip it up on the new tv.
I think I'm also gonna get the tv professionally calibrated. FS said they would do it for $150 (50% off) since I bought the tv from there. I wanna see what this tv can do when properly setup.
In regards to your dilemma, I think you should wait for the Samsung. Quality wise, you probably won't see much of a difference between the 2. Both are really good tvs. But from what I've read and from talking to some of my techy friends, only real difference is the Samsung has more options than the Sony. Personally I just like the way Samsung's look and the interface is user friendly and stylish.
mazdaboi
11-10-2009, 12:55 PM
listed $2588?
and u hassel him enough that he is willing to sell for $1750?
No actually, I got to visions at 8:30 and I was just planning on walking in asking for the Samsung and booking it to FS if they didn't have it, but the guy just quoted me that price right off the bat. But the thing is he said I had to get the 3 yr extended warranty and if it wasn't used, it would convert into a in-store credit. I'm sure if you buy like a hd pvr or something else you won't have to buy the warranty.
StylinRed
11-10-2009, 05:58 PM
you should look at Panasonics... the G15 plasmas are on sale now at FS up until Christmas
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010124627&catid=23525
$1600 for a 46"
underscore
11-10-2009, 06:02 PM
I think I'm also gonna get the tv professionally calibrated. FS said they would do it for $150 (50% off) since I bought the tv from there. I wanna see what this tv can do when properly setup.
To buy a really good calibration unit is only $200, someone posted it up in the Photo of the Day or whatever it is thread in the Photography section. I'd say buy one of those and either sell it for $150 after or rent it out.
ime2006
11-10-2009, 06:49 PM
i checked out XBR version vs Z version
basically same shit spec, just different tv enhancement, otherwise spec is exactly the same
100,000 contrast for both models
slow response time 8ms for XBR ...WTF
Samsung 7 series is basically the top highest model for their LCD line up, 8 series has shittier spec but thinner
150,000 contrast, and 2ms response time
FUCK! guess im gonna have to wait....till they stock it up...sigh i cant wait, and i hate waiting. Wonna pop in the new COD on my new tv...and be like :eek::eek::eek: DAMN YO!
how you liking ur new 7 so far?
46" wont do the justice, i need 52" at least
Basically, Samsung B750 Series is the Best LCD.
If you want something better than B750, it gatta be LED backlight Models.
The 8 Series, its from last year, it is "A850". And there is no "B850" on the market.
Sony XBR cant really beat Sammy 750 now.
And XBR price is still 400 bux more than 750......:D:D:D:D Thats pretty OOXX.
Also, I would say ~ Sammy is crashing the TV market now. lol 150,000 DCR, 240Hz, DLNA, USB Media, ~ at that crazy price.
Too bad that Sammy B8500 isn't sold in Canada. (Fxxk Sammy), otherwise, i would have it by now.
Overall, I still like my A950 the best. XDDDD
ime2006
11-10-2009, 06:52 PM
you should look at Panasonics... the G15 plasmas are on sale now at FS up until Christmas
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010124627&catid=23525
$1600 for a 46"
why G15
V10 FTW :buttrock::buttrock::buttrock::buttrock::buttrock: :buttrock:
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 11:33 PM
Fuck haven't really had time to enjoy it yet.... I just moved in a couple months ago so I've been busy furnishing my place.
Yeah man... picked up mw2 today and I can't wait to rip it up on the new tv.
I think I'm also gonna get the tv professionally calibrated. FS said they would do it for $150 (50% off) since I bought the tv from there. I wanna see what this tv can do when properly setup.
In regards to your dilemma, I think you should wait for the Samsung. Quality wise, you probably won't see much of a difference between the 2. Both are really good tvs. But from what I've read and from talking to some of my techy friends, only real difference is the Samsung has more options than the Sony. Personally I just like the way Samsung's look and the interface is user friendly and stylish.
dude i SERIOUSLY think its a waste of money getting someone to PROFESSIONALLY calibrate ur tv for u, seriously
its just a gimmick
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 11:35 PM
ok my BRAND NEW DILIEMMA (spelling)
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010128062&catid=
or samsung 7 series 750
i suspect 7 series i can get around $1800
Sharp LED i suspect staff can be had around $2200 plus taxes
therefore if $400 dollar difference
top of line LCD king of the hill samsung 7 series>?
or more of a lower model 120hrz sharp but LED!!!!! which means wayyyy higher contrast ratio = win, and brighter..lasts longer
FUCK now i really really cant decide
im stuck with these two, forget about the rest...really trying to decide now
twitchyzero
11-10-2009, 11:37 PM
stick with the 7
who said LED lasts longer?
underscore
11-10-2009, 11:50 PM
dude i SERIOUSLY think its a waste of money getting someone to PROFESSIONALLY calibrate ur tv for u, seriously
its just a gimmick
everything at Futureshit is a gimmick. What I tell everyone is to research what they're interested in ahead of time, and only go to FS for the actual purchase. They're guys don't know shit all, especially when compared to the combined knowledge of RS.
stick with the 7
who said LED lasts longer?
LED = lower power, brighter, cleaner, less heat, and will always outlast a bulb if it is used within it's designed limits. an LED backlit TV will never need a new backlight, and a fully LED TV should (theoretically) almost never break down. It'll be like those oldass CRT's some people have that WILL NOT DIE (like my parents 25 odd year old Candle TV)
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-10-2009, 11:51 PM
NVM
seems sharp's LED gets poor review
http://pg-cnet.com.com/flat-panel-tvs/sharp-lc-52le700un/4505-6482_7-33674158.html?subj=Sharp+LC+52LE700UN&tag=feed&part=pg-cnet
Not a true LED LCD or not much better than a higher end regular LCD hence aka samsung 7 series
guess if i really wonna go LED i should save up and get a samsung 7 series LED tv
underscore
11-10-2009, 11:52 PM
true LED is expensive, don't confuse it with LED backlit.\
edit: one other thing I though of. if you have it in a room with windows/lots of lights, having a matte screen is key. contrast and blackness levels don't matter for shit if you have tonnes of light reflecting off your screen.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-11-2009, 12:18 AM
awww tat explains
almost got it confused...thx god
forget the sharp one than
reviews are pretty bad if not average only at its best
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-11-2009, 12:20 AM
stick with the 7
who said LED lasts longer?
i dont know..the sales, the ppl, the general crowd? the manufacture?
LED suppose to outlasts any other bulbs
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-11-2009, 12:21 AM
true LED is expensive, don't confuse it with LED backlit.\
edit: one other thing I though of. if you have it in a room with windows/lots of lights, having a matte screen is key. contrast and blackness levels don't matter for shit if you have tonnes of light reflecting off your screen.
wats a TRUE led and wat isnt?
isnt all LED LCD tvs are backlit by LED bulbs instead regular flourscent?
underscore
11-11-2009, 07:13 AM
LED TV: each pixel consists of several LED's for each colour, so any individual pixel can be turned completely off, giving amazing black levels as there is zero light emitted. Looking at a fully black screen will be the same as looking at it when the TV is turned off.
LED backlit: an LCD screen is backlit by LED's instead of standard bulbs/panels, which will last damn near forever and should be brighter. realistically it's a sort of a gimmick to make some people think they have an LED TV with the crazy new tech, but really they don't.
cdizzle_996
11-11-2009, 07:16 AM
I have a 42" Toshiba Regza. It was one of their first 1080p LCDs. I've had it for a year and a half or so, and never had a problem. This has been used for thousands of hours of gaming.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-11-2009, 08:30 AM
cool thx a lot underscore
so i guess that $2800 Sharp LED is the cheap model half ass LED than, hence why the poor ratings.
ime2006
11-11-2009, 12:41 PM
there is no true LED yet.
The only one would be Sony 11 inch X1
Eff-1
11-11-2009, 01:11 PM
This is the Toshiba I bought. Super thin bezel FTW. Don't know if they still offer that feature or not anymore.
http://www.engadget.com/media/2007/09/9-6-07-40_46rf350u-l.jpg
I used to work for samsung.. the 6000 7000 and 8000 series are the best of the best! so amazing.
those are LED's!
underscore
11-11-2009, 03:12 PM
^ again, LED backlit.
ime2006
11-11-2009, 06:42 PM
I used to work for samsung.. the 6000 7000 and 8000 series are the best of the best! so amazing.
those are LED's!
Big companies are misleading people so much.
Sony XBR8, Sharp 700, Samsung 6,7,8,8500 are all LED Backlit. They are not real LEDs.
THey are using LCD panel + LED Backlit.
AGAIN, The only real LED is the SONY 11inch XEL1
Its selling at $1999 for a friggin 11inch OLED
See the link here
http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/CategoryDisplays?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&categoryId=100404&navigationPath=n32050
We will starting to see the REAL LEDs in about 2 years in bigger size.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM
^
OHHHHHH holly shit didnt know that
i thought those $4000 dollar samsung LED ones are REAL LEDs
the one u mention the sony one
i thought thosed are called
OLED
organic LED'
they have a ridiculous price tag right now
and i mean RIDICULOUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
underscore
11-11-2009, 09:52 PM
well yeah, they're organic LED's. IF they made a consumer, say 55" OLED TV it would be in the tens of thousands. Or you can wait a couple years and they'll be the norm.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-12-2009, 08:15 AM
^
when plasma first got introduced into the market it used to cost a ridiculous amount of monye as well
new technology...tats wat happens
underscore
11-12-2009, 08:50 AM
of course. my family tends to luck out with stuff like that, right as a bunch of people we know got big TV's, my parents waited a bit and LCD came out :haha: then a bunch bought big LCD's, we waited a couple months and got 1080p
Tapioca
11-12-2009, 09:40 AM
Toshiba TVs are good value for the money.
But, if you're serious about picture quality, nothing beats Pioneer - just ask the guys on AVSForums. Pioneer Kuro panels are the best consumer grade TVs. It's just a shame that Pioneer is getting out of the plasma business.
ime2006
11-12-2009, 10:24 AM
Toshiba TVs are good value for the money.
But, if you're serious about picture quality, nothing beats Pioneer - just ask the guys on AVSForums. Pioneer Kuro panels are the best consumer grade TVs. It's just a shame that Pioneer is getting out of the plasma business.
The new king of plasma is Panasonic V10 with NeoPDP tech. :D:D:D:D:D
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-12-2009, 10:25 AM
^
is it becuz plasma trend is dieing down?
I have a Toshiba 42LX177 LCD. Pretty decent TV (bought it a few years back). Still kicking along quite nicely.
However, I do have a big gripe with the Toshiba 52" DLP rear projection that I have...it's gone through 4 bulbs already in the 5 years I've owned it. Each bulb costs about $150-200USD. People have complained on a lot of the forums about this but apparently Toshiba refuses to recognize it as a defect. I'm just waiting for this last bulb to die and this TV will be headed for the scrap heap.
DHP 1
11-12-2009, 12:13 PM
:)
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-12-2009, 12:17 PM
which year is ur DLP?
i got my 72" DLP 2 years ago, still fine
:confused:
underscore
11-12-2009, 12:26 PM
I have a Toshiba 42LX177 LCD. Pretty decent TV (bought it a few years back). Still kicking along quite nicely.
However, I do have a big gripe with the Toshiba 52" DLP rear projection that I have...it's gone through 4 bulbs already in the 5 years I've owned it. Each bulb costs about $150-200USD. People have complained on a lot of the forums about this but apparently Toshiba refuses to recognize it as a defect. I'm just waiting for this last bulb to die and this TV will be headed for the scrap heap.
may as well sell it now then and get some cash for it. if it goes through bulbs that fast sounds like ther'es too much power going through it, has noone tried to add a resistor or something?
may as well sell it now then and get some cash for it. if it goes through bulbs that fast sounds like ther'es too much power going through it, has noone tried to add a resistor or something?
Yeah...I seriously thought about that but since it's an older TV, I doubt I'd get little to nothing for it. (If I had to guess, I'd probably get $500 tops for it) At least it's working now, and I do have one more spare bulb for it so I'm just going to run through the bulbs and hopefully get a few years of life out of them. People are saying it's a poor bulb design. The last bulb I bought was actually a 3rd party bulb and these guys who created these bulbs claim to have "fixed" the issue. I'll see if that's the case when I go to use it.
which year is ur DLP?
i got my 72" DLP 2 years ago, still fine
:confused:
I bought it in April 2005. Model is a 52HM84. I suspect the issue is with a specific bulb type rather than a Toshiba wide TV issue.
ime2006
11-13-2009, 12:23 PM
^
is it becuz plasma trend is dieing down?
No, its not dying down.
Panasonic V10 is also the KING of ALL TVs this current year. (Not just plasma).
If there is V10 around your area, check it out.
It's AMAZING!!
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-13-2009, 01:54 PM
why is everybody talking about LCD lately and not plasma
ime2006
11-13-2009, 06:07 PM
why is everybody talking about LCD lately and not plasma
Which one is better ? actually there is no real answer to that.
I would say, go by which-ever you are comfortable with.
Some people like colour of LCD, some like colour of plasma.
But, from a professional point of View, testing results, and spec numbers, High end Plasma performance is better than LCD, LED Backlit TV.
Whoever has professionally done their HomeTheater Room, usually, they will be going with Plasma TVs.
Myself have a really good Demo that will show you Plasma and LCD performance gap.
90% of my customer says "WOW" on plasma after i show them my demo...lol
A lot people think that Plasma is an older=bad technology. (This is the most reason i got from majority of customers who has no knowledge about TVs.)
and people is scared about Burn-in problem. (pretty much none for High End plasma TVs, but watch out for low end Plasmas)
Also, Plasma consumes more power.
Worst thing is, lots people telling other people "Go for LCD"
But they never ask why LCD ? They just go for wutever their "Friends" told them to get. LOL
underscore
11-13-2009, 06:57 PM
^ ok then mr pro, why is plasma better?
beatdownvictim
11-13-2009, 07:42 PM
ime2006, are you a calibrator???? i need my 6020 calibrated :)
ime2006
11-13-2009, 10:31 PM
^ ok then mr pro, why is plasma better?
I m no where near pro....=.= There are a lot crazy people on AVS forum...etc.
like i said, people should go for whichever you like.
Some people likes plasma colour better. but some like LCD better.
I was in the dilemma of Pioneer 50inch Kuro, or Samsung 55inch A950 LED. But i went for the size. LOL, And i have a dedicate HTPC hook up to my TV. I don't want burn-in problem as well. Thats why i got my Samsung 55A950 LED.
My friend has Pioneer Kuro 5010, Colour of his set looks so natural.
My set after colour calibration is very close to his set. But LED has blooming effects....:( Plasma has no such issue.
But i still love my set.
I am happy with the blacks of my set. :D
http://www.echigoya-honpo.com/extra/pic/DSC03546.JPG
http://www.echigoya-honpo.com/extra/pic/DSC03548.JPG
Anyway ~
Plasma shows better details in Blacks. It has got higher contrast ratio.
Higher contrast ratio brings you better grey scale. I believe everyone knows that. Plasma has better colour depth. Image looks more 3D-like.
Plasma gives out better colour, The phosphors in a plasma display give off colored light when they are excited. Every pixel is made up of three separate subpixel cells, each with different colored phosphors. One subpixel has a red light phosphor, one subpixel has a green light phosphor and one subpixel has a blue light phosphor. These colors blend together to create the overall color of the pixel.
I still remember, In Vendor fare event of this year, In Panasonic section, showed a video of Fireworks on their V10. This unit is using NeoPDP, it is brightest Plasma i've never seen. This set can be so black, also can be really bright.
So, imagine in a dark night with Fireworks, what its ganna be like ? :D
Btw, Panasonic Z1 was in the room as well, MAN!! that tv is sexy!!!!
Here is one of the review for V10.
http://hdguru.com/the-new-king-of-hdtv-displays-panasonics-tc-p54v10-reviewed/458/
ime2006
11-13-2009, 10:33 PM
ime2006, are you a calibrator???? i need my 6020 calibrated :)
i m not a calibrator, I don't own the tools.
check avs forum, there are some accurate tweaks you can get from there. :D
bigassbooger
11-13-2009, 10:47 PM
underscore just got fucken OWNED
underscore
11-13-2009, 11:00 PM
how? I never said he was wrong, I just wanted him to backup his claim. Also, his explanation of how the pixels work, is that not the same for an LCD? each pixel is made up of three/four cells, red/blue and 1 or sometimes 2 green. These combine to make up each pixel. I just read the CNet Plasma vs LCD, it's so obviously biased towards Plasma it's not even funny, still has some decent info though.
LED TV's will be amazing though, should have all of the best features from both LCD and Plasma more or less.
One question I have though, does Plasma still require the glass on top of the screen?
twitchyzero
11-14-2009, 12:11 AM
plasma generally tend give better PQ but most people by LCD for practicality and reliability.
If you use HTPC it's best to stick with LCD..evne though burn ins isnt an issues with new plasma panels.
ime2006
11-14-2009, 01:43 AM
how? I never said he was wrong, I just wanted him to backup his claim. Also, his explanation of how the pixels work, is that not the same for an LCD? each pixel is made up of three/four cells, red/blue and 1 or sometimes 2 green. These combine to make up each pixel. I just read the CNet Plasma vs LCD, it's so obviously biased towards Plasma it's not even funny, still has some decent info though.
LED TV's will be amazing though, should have all of the best features from both LCD and Plasma more or less.
One question I have though, does Plasma still require the glass on top of the screen?
LCD is using Liquid Crystal.
its totally different way to reproduction the colours.
As i know plasma is relying on phosphor.
Yes, every plasma TVs are using glass on top.
In professional reviews, Most the time Plasma are the winners.
For best Movie experience, i would pick Plasma as well.
ime2006
11-14-2009, 01:59 AM
everything at Futureshit is a gimmick. What I tell everyone is to research what they're interested in ahead of time, and only go to FS for the actual purchase. They're guys don't know shit all, especially when compared to the combined knowledge of RS.
And i work for FS...:buttrock::buttrock::buttrock:
It really depends on who you bump into in the store.... XDDD
Honestly, i spend so much $$ on Home Theatre stuff after i joined FS.
Everytime, i see new TVs, I just wanna buy them.... :(
right now, we just starting carry Martin Logan speakers. Thinking of getting that babe in xmas time.
Time to spend $$ again :(
underscore
11-14-2009, 10:54 AM
LCD is using Liquid Crystal.
its totally different way to reproduction the colours.
As i know plasma is relying on phosphor.
Yes, every plasma TVs are using glass on top.
In professional reviews, Most the time Plasma are the winners.
For best Movie experience, i would pick Plasma as well.
Yes LCD uses liquid crystal, plasma uses phosphors, the pixels are still made up of the same mix of red/blue/green though (there's usually more green)
That's another factor of LCD vs Plasma, if you have a lot of lights or windows that will be on when your TV is on, then plasmas can get a lot of glare. If it's a dark, dedicated media room, then glare isn't an issue.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-15-2009, 08:33 AM
so due to IME 's explaination we should get Plasma?? not LCD?
seems like plasma's color still cannot catch up to LCD?
so what gives??
god damn
:( now im hesitating again lol
underscore
11-15-2009, 10:09 AM
well do you have windows in the room the tv will be in? or lights that will be on a lot? that was a big factor for us as there's big windows down one wall, and the glass front of the plasma would've given way too much glare.
Mugen EvOlutioN
11-15-2009, 11:40 AM
ya its right by huge windows
ime2006
11-15-2009, 11:20 PM
ya its right by huge windows
say, if you have direct lighting into your TV spot. In this case, better go for LCD.
Unless you don't care about the glare, and want the best colour ...etc. like my colleague. lol
But if you always watch TV at night time.
You are fine with plasma.
Plasma colour is better than LCD.
But you gatta check both Colours before getting them.
Different person, prefer different colour.
vBulletin® v3.8.11, Copyright ©2000-2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.