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CP.AR
11-13-2009, 06:49 PM
For those who don't like to read - CBC has a video available
HERE (http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/player.html?clipid=1329775845)


SOURCE (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g_WHHFPrQjvdnQhVIvx5o9a-v66AD9BV10180)
Splash! NASA moon crash struck lots of water


By ALICIA CHANG (AP) – 1 hour ago

LOS ANGELES — Suddenly, the moon looks exciting again. It has lots of water, scientists said Friday — a thrilling discovery that sent a ripple of hope for a future astronaut outpost in a place that has always seemed barren and inhospitable.

Experts have long suspected there was water on the moon. Confirmation came from data churned up by two NASA spacecraft that intentionally slammed into a lunar crater last month.

"Indeed, yes, we found water. And we didn't find just a little bit. We found a significant amount," said Anthony Colaprete, lead scientist for the mission, holding up a white water bucket for emphasis.

The lunar crash kicked up at least 25 gallons and that's only what scientists could see from the plumes of the impact, Colaprete said.

Some space policy experts say that makes the moon attractive for exploration again. Having an abundance of water would make it easier to set up a base camp for astronauts, supplying drinking water and a key ingredient for rocket fuel.

"Having definitive evidence that there is substantial water is a significant step forward in making the moon an interesting place to go," said George Washington University space policy scholar John Logsdon.

Even so, members of the blue-ribbon panel reviewing NASA's future plans said it doesn't change their conclusion that the program needs more money to get beyond near-Earth orbit. The panel wants NASA to look at other potential destinations like asteroids and Mars.

"This new and terrific result reassures us about lunar resources, but ... the challenges currently facing the human spaceflight program remain," Chris Chyba, a Princeton astrophysicist who is on the panel, said in an e-mail.

President George W. Bush had proposed a more than $100 billion plan to return astronauts to the moon, then go on to Mars; a test flight of an early version of a new rocket was a success last month. President Barack Obama appointed the special panel to look at the entire moon exploration program. The decision is now up to the White House, and NASA's lunar plans are somewhat on hold until then.

As for unmanned exploration, previous missions had detected the presence of hydrogen in lunar craters near the moon's poles, possible evidence of ice. In September, scientists reported finding tiny amounts of water in the lunar soil all over the moon's surface.

But it was NASA's Oct. 9 mission involving the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, LCROSS, that provided the stunning confirmation announced Friday — water, in the forms of ice and vapor.

"Rather than a dead and unchanging world, it could in fact be a very dynamic and interesting one," said Greg Delory of the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the mission, led by NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif.

The LCROSS spacecraft only hit one spot on the moon and it's unclear how much water there is across the entire moon.

The October mission involved two strikes into a permanently shadowed crater near the south pole. First, an empty rocket hull slammed into the Cabeus crater. Then, a trailing spacecraft recorded the drama live before it also crashed into the same spot four minutes later.

Though scientists were overjoyed with the plethora of data beamed back to Earth, the mission was a public relations dud. Space enthusiasts who stayed up all night to watch the spectacle did not see the promised giant plume of debris.

NASA scientists had predicted the twin impacts would spew six miles of dust into the sunlight. Instead, images revealed only a mile-high plume, and it was not visible to many amateur astronomers peering through telescopes.

Scientists spent a month analyzing data from the spacecraft's spectrometers, instruments that can detect strong signals of water molecules in the plume.

"We've had hints that there is water. This was almost like tasting it," said Peter Schultz, professor of geological sciences at Brown University and a co-investigator on the LCROSS mission.

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who in 1969 made his historic Apollo 11 moonwalk with Neil Armstrong, was pleased to hear the latest discovery, but still believes the U.S. should focus on colonizing Mars.

"People will overreact to this news and say, `Let's have a water rush to the moon,'" Aldrin said. "It doesn't justify that."

Mission scientists said it would take more time to tease out what else was kicked up in the moon dust.

AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

GabAlmighty
11-13-2009, 06:51 PM
Well isn't that something, edit. I should find a way to buy some acres of the moon. For my future generations...

asian_speedster
11-13-2009, 06:52 PM
Just saw this on Gizmodo, sounds awesome!

cant wait till we can live on the moon.

El Bastardo
11-13-2009, 07:58 PM
Screw the moon. Space stations are much better

KingDeeCee
11-13-2009, 08:00 PM
Holy shit....I was not expecting this.

Vansterdam
11-13-2009, 08:25 PM
ooo shit after all these years we finally found out

orange7
11-13-2009, 10:01 PM
let's have a water rush to the moon!

SlowRider
11-13-2009, 10:23 PM
Nasa only says this to get more hype and funding from the government......that same moon water has been there and will be there for eons from now.....

there is really no need for any of us to shoot up there and start building moon station's.....our technology is way too limitied to have any actual usefull effect on anyone at the moment.

raygunpk
11-13-2009, 10:24 PM
Captain Picard, did you discover this? Captain Kirk will be jealous.

CP.AR
11-13-2009, 10:36 PM
Screw the moon. Space stations are much better

Space stations suck unless you are next to a stable wormhole :haha:

Captain Picard, did you discover this? Captain Kirk will be jealous.

My ship outruns his anyday - so of course :D

Lomac
11-13-2009, 10:42 PM
I swear this was already discovered a little while ago by the Chinese or some other country... :confused:

spoon.ek9
11-13-2009, 10:53 PM
I swear this was already discovered a little while ago by the Chinese or some other country... :confused:

nope, too busy counterfeiting condoms, sorry.

Manic!
11-13-2009, 11:14 PM
I swear this was already discovered a little while ago by the Chinese or some other country... :confused:


It was India

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/24/water-moon-space-exploration-india

CanadaGoose
11-13-2009, 11:18 PM
Now let's just wait for someone to bottle that shit, and we can all pay out the ass for a bottle of moonwater!!

Gary Oak
11-13-2009, 11:19 PM
this is one small step for man and a giant leap for mankind

CP.AR
11-13-2009, 11:49 PM
nope, too busy counterfeiting condoms, sorry.

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
They need to boost their population so they can send a crapton of "unwanted" babies to the moon as colonists... duurrrrrrr

Chestnut
11-13-2009, 11:56 PM
Screw the moon. Space stations are much better


You serious? Umm we actually need gravity, so the moon is be better in this case.

Muscle atrophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness#Health_effects_of_weightlessness

Manic!
11-14-2009, 12:04 AM
Anyone looking for a good real estate agent???
http://www.lunarlandowner.com/



:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

StylinRed
11-14-2009, 01:52 AM
why would it cost tons of money to "return" to the moon? when they did it with a garbage can and tech from the 60s?

shouldnt it be super cheap n easy now ;)



I was thinking that this water was just Atmospheric Escape from Earth that the moon was able to pull in... but if theres a significant amount.... hmm


Also if anyone remembers the movie Time Machine:
http://www.infoniac.com/uimg/moon_crash.jpg

AVS_Racing
11-14-2009, 02:05 AM
i want some moon water lol

mr_chin
11-14-2009, 06:01 AM
if there is water on the moon, doesn't that mean there is oxygen?

spyker
11-14-2009, 08:08 AM
[QUOTE=StylinRed;6682876]why would it cost tons of money to "return" to the moon? when they did it with a garbage can and tech from the 60s?QUOTE]

NASA never put a man on the moon,it was all bullshit.

El Bastardo
11-14-2009, 11:21 AM
You serious? Umm we actually need gravity, so the moon is be better in this case.

Muscle atrophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness#Health_effects_of_weightlessness



Star Trek joke. I wasn't serious

spoon.ek9
11-14-2009, 11:31 AM
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
They need to boost their population so they can send a crapton of "unwanted" babies to the moon as colonists... duurrrrrrr

nah, its just a quick buck so they can buy more LV and retardedly expensive dogs. :haha:

skyxx
11-14-2009, 12:29 PM
Wait, first the moon was made of cheese then it has water? Am I getting a pattern? Soon they'll find wheat and will start making Macaroni and Cheese.

BNR32_Coupe
11-14-2009, 04:05 PM
whats the point of a moonbase? just so astronauts can chill out and play with rocks and swim in moon water?

spyker
11-14-2009, 04:57 PM
whats the point of a moonbase? just so astronauts can chill out and play with rocks and swim in moon water?
What's the point you say?

It's to show the rest of the world what the USA is capable of,to let everyone know,not to fuck with them,fear them and meet their demands.

The NASA program is the biggest waste of money,it's proven itself that over & over again.

orange7
11-14-2009, 05:24 PM
^
controlling the moon gives a major advantage over world domination because the moon makes a great battle station.

seakrait
11-14-2009, 05:29 PM
^^^ hahahah... well, remember why the states landed on the moon. besides exploration, the soviets had alredy landed/crashed a craft (luna 2 i think) and had started the whole space race off with sputnik. middle of the cold war, of course the states had to flex its muscles.

spyker
11-14-2009, 05:31 PM
^ by sending a man to the moon,it sends a clear message to the rest of the world of what the US can do and what else they are aslo capable of doing.

You ever heard of Hitler's "dooms day device"?

CP.AR
11-14-2009, 09:49 PM
Star Trek joke. I wasn't serious

meet at Quark's with Kirk and Admiral Lolvo next week? we can race starships!

hotjoint
11-16-2009, 08:51 AM
nice

tonyvu
11-16-2009, 09:54 AM
ahah the moon huh? wasn't expecting that

twitchyzero
11-16-2009, 09:58 AM
How closely is the water content to that on Earth? They might have the same origin but it's been few billions of years it might not be compatible to what we need? I'm sure we can purify it but still

Mugen EvOlutioN
11-16-2009, 10:10 AM
lets all move to the moon guys, no polution yet..

Benz_05TSX
11-16-2009, 11:06 AM
Nice...now even if 2012 comes, we have somewhere to live!!

The_AK
11-16-2009, 11:25 AM
Nice...now even if 2012 comes, we have somewhere to live!!

exactly,
lets relocate the polar ice cap to the moon, someone strap that shit to a vessel,
avoid flooding today

nah, its just a quick buck so they can buy more LV and retardedly expensive dogs. :haha:

and Prada bags

spoon.ek9
11-16-2009, 12:42 PM
lets all move to the moon guys, no polution yet..

no oxygen, how are we gonna drive our cars? hahah

CP.AR
11-16-2009, 01:52 PM
no oxygen, how are we gonna drive our cars? hahah
ill bring a tesla roadster and a nuclear power plant