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scottsman
11-15-2009, 11:38 PM
I have had my current Dell Inspiron laptop for a little over 2 years now and I am begginning to have quite a few problems. I started looking around Best Buys website but really dont have any idea as to what should be standard when purchasing a new laptop these days.

I only really use the computer for work, video, music, and internet. I have no intention of playing any video games.

Does Windows 7 come standard now? A few basic specs would be appreciated that I should look for.

TIA.

SkinnyPupp
11-15-2009, 11:49 PM
Stick with Dell

tgill
11-16-2009, 12:07 AM
stick with an intel cpu core 2 / centrino 2
avoid acer.

!Aznboi128
11-16-2009, 12:16 AM
dell studio xps line is very good :D


but if its just internet... then the inspiron line

ienhz
11-16-2009, 12:39 AM
Get one of those CULV laptops (Acer Timeline, Dell 11z, ASUS UL series). They're cheap, light, and have insane battery life. Since you don't really need CPU power, they should be more than enough for internet and MS Word.

Euro7r
11-16-2009, 01:37 AM
Don't buy HP. You'll be wasting your money.

tegz
11-16-2009, 03:45 AM
Don't buy HP. You'll be wasting your money.

QFT... I've had the worst experiences with HP laptops, not to mention many of my friends who've made the same mistake going HP as their first laptop.

Try a lenovo (IBM) thinkpad, those things last a long time and are built sturdy.

I currently use an ASUS laptop. It has 1 year free ACCIDENTAL warranty + 2 year warranty.

I broke my screen the 2nd week I got it and they replaced it no questions asked, very little hassle too. My next laptop will most likely also be an ASUS because it has had absolutely no problems and I've been using this thing back and from school and chucking it around everywhere.

Gh0stRider
11-16-2009, 07:27 AM
I've had my HP for almost 4 years and it has served me well. Although its getting older, it is still holding up.

The good thing about dell, is that you can customize the laptop to your liking.
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!Aznboi128
11-16-2009, 08:31 AM
QFT... I've had the worst experiences with HP laptops, not to mention many of my friends who've made the same mistake going HP as their first laptop.

Try a lenovo (IBM) thinkpad, those things last a long time and are built sturdy.

I currently use an ASUS laptop. It has 1 year free ACCIDENTAL warranty + 2 year warranty.

I broke my screen the 2nd week I got it and they replaced it no questions asked, very little hassle too. My next laptop will most likely also be an ASUS because it has had absolutely no problems and I've been using this thing back and from school and chucking it around everywhere.
lenovo would be too pricy, for something that he wants to do.

asus is good but still comparing to a insiprion, which is at 599...

Jmac
11-16-2009, 08:49 AM
If you're looking for something cheap ($500 - $750), look for an AMD Athlon II-based laptop. They're much better than AMD's older laptop chipsets and generally better than an equally-priced Pentium Dual Core. Faster, lighter, better graphics, supports virtualization (If you want to run XP Mode in 7 Pro/Ultimate), runs about as cool, and similar battery life.

Spectre_Cdn
11-16-2009, 09:01 AM
lenovo would be too pricy, for something that he wants to do.

asus is good but still comparing to a insiprion, which is at 599...

There are some decent Lenovos at that price range:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/lenovo-thinkpad-x-w-series-22-off-t-r-series-17-off-top-epp-price-no-min-777107/

underscore
11-16-2009, 10:16 AM
http://www.revscene.net/forums/2009-laptop-buying-t594940.html?t=594940

tiger_handheld
11-16-2009, 10:24 AM
running an inspirion 1318. bought in april 09.
had to replace hd, and it was a breeze.

customer/tech support from dell = SUPERB

upgraded to windows 7 enterprise as well. significant performance increase compared to vista home premium.

underscore
11-16-2009, 10:30 AM
First off what kind of problems? Don't be one of those people that gets a new computer when really all they need is a reformat.

!Yaminashi
11-16-2009, 11:55 AM
If you're looking for something cheap ($500 - $750), look for an AMD Athlon II-based laptop. They're much better than AMD's older laptop chipsets and generally better than an equally-priced Pentium Dual Core. Faster, lighter, better graphics, supports virtualization (If you want to run XP Mode in 7 Pro/Ultimate), runs about as cool, and similar battery life.

Is it true that AMD's run alot hotter than intel?

Dragon-88
11-16-2009, 11:57 AM
dell.ca you best friend.. Dont buy dells from BB or FS they are pre built shits...

underscore
11-16-2009, 12:06 PM
Aren't the upgrades on the Dell site more expensive than they should be tho? Or has that changed?

StylinRed
11-16-2009, 12:47 PM
Ive been shopping for a laptop recently (if u guys recall my broken monitor)

and when i priced the same components.. Dells actually came out to be more expensive than the Vaio i got!

and the other day (a little late i guess) i priced a Lenovo on their (god awful) website and they seem to be cheaper than both (their extra warranty fees are nice too)

You might want to order from the states, there are no extra duties for importing computers/computer equipment from the states, so you could save a couple hundred bucks (u could ship to a Montana shipping outlet and have them forward the item to you or to the border, that way you save on washington state sales tax)

Hondaracer
11-16-2009, 07:17 PM
Sony, the extra dough is worth it.

P5-stock
11-19-2009, 11:11 PM
using a Sony VAIO Z + intel X25-E SSD + Windows 7 pro 64 bit and it just flies

-no matter what u get, get something a bit cheaper to budget enough for a SSD, you won't regret it (increase performance and battery life, it dont get any better than that; sacrifices storage though)

-faster cpus are nice but take battery life into account

-led-backlit lcds have better colour accuracy and save on power too (one of the most power draining component)

-~4lbs is the boundary between portablility and non-portability

-more laptops come with HDMI output (its even better when paired with a bluray drive and an external mon.)

-reviews, reviews, reviews

A.RSXS
11-24-2009, 09:59 AM
Try get it from NCIX, they have good prices, just avoid getting Acer, their batteries are crap...

teaoh
11-26-2009, 08:56 PM
Does anyone think the Dell sale is worth it?
http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/free_upgrade?c=ca&cs=cadhs1&l=en&s=dhs&ref=hbn

I was thinking of getting the Studio 17 for the bigger screen. I'm not going to upgrade anything except for maybe the keyboard back lit for $20 because it looks cool :haha:

CP.AR
11-26-2009, 09:15 PM
I would suggesting getting an ASUS. Reliable, built tough and a bit cheaper too (I think).

I've been using mine for around 3 years now, it still does Crysis on Medium with ~20fps.

Oh yeah, their warranty is suberb too.

bigassbooger
11-29-2009, 04:12 AM
Vaio but don't get the cheap bulky entry model.

TypeRNammer
11-29-2009, 04:43 AM
I would suggesting getting an ASUS. Reliable, built tough and a bit cheaper too (I think).

I've been using mine for around 3 years now, it still does Crysis on Medium with ~20fps.

Oh yeah, their warranty is suberb too.

weird, i just picked up an asus g51vx-a1 for 1299 before taxes:haha:

I know I should of opt. for the higher model g51j-a1 for the iCore processor and DDR3 ram but that's another 300 bucks up.

This is the first laptop that I bought outside of Dell.

underscore
11-29-2009, 10:54 AM
I think the OP is gone, but seriously if it's only 2 years old just reformat, update drivers, unless something is physically broken.

Razor Ramon HG
11-29-2009, 12:16 PM
UL20A! It's on sale now at Anitec so you can get it for about 670 compared to when I got it for $715 a few weeks ago.

It's super light (a little over 3 pounds), battery life lasts about average 5-6 hours, and is more than enough for what you'll be using it for. Stick a SSD in it, and watch it fly even better!

TypeRNammer
11-29-2009, 02:47 PM
Lol my asus g51vx-a2 can barely go over 1.5 hours :haha:
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teaoh
11-29-2009, 03:54 PM
Hey which of these 2 laptops would you get.
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=46117&vpn=K70IJ-C1&manufacture=ASUS
or
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45535&vpn=CX700-023CA-IST6504G50SP&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar

Any opinions would be appreciated. TIA!

TypeRNammer
11-29-2009, 06:54 PM
If you plan to do some light gaming then the asus you posted is complete junk, but for other tasks, it shouldn't be a problem.

But looking at the msi, it seems to be more well packaged together. As for reliability goes, I'm not quite sure on it.
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danned
11-29-2009, 09:06 PM
how about fujitsu aseries
a1220?

Razor Ramon HG
11-29-2009, 09:42 PM
Hey which of these 2 laptops would you get.
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=46117&vpn=K70IJ-C1&manufacture=ASUS
or
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45535&vpn=CX700-023CA-IST6504G50SP&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar

Any opinions would be appreciated. TIA!

Depends on what you want.

I find that MSI lacks quality compared to ASUS, which also has the highest grade customer service from what I've read. 2 years of accidental warranty worldwide if you register your ASUS within 60 days too!

With that said, the MSI has a way better processor and its Mobility Radeon HD 4330 is multiple times better than the 4500MHD found in the ASUS.

For best bang for your buck, it's quite obvious which one you should buy. But as always before you make a big purchase, it's best to research tons!

CP.AR
11-29-2009, 09:59 PM
Depends on what you want.

I find that MSI lacks quality compared to ASUS, which also has the highest grade customer service from what I've read. 2 years of accidental warranty worldwide if you register your ASUS within 60 days too!

With that said, the MSI has a way better processor and its Mobility Radeon HD 4330 is multiple times better than the 4500MHD found in the ASUS.

For best bang for your buck, it's quite obvious which one you should buy. But as always before you make a big purchase, it's best to research tons!

They replaced my battery 3 months after the 1 year battery waranty expired (the lady said on the phone that they were quite lenient with it actually, and then replaced my screen just before the 2 year warranty expired. Both times were quick as hell.

5 minutes hold time on Customer Service phone
Fedex came to my door with shipping label and packing box the next day
For the battery I think they sent out one before receiving mine, so within 2 days of calling customer support I got a new battery.

For my screen replacement, I told them I was going to Hong Kong 2 weeks later, and whabam they replaced it and it was back at my door in a week (5 working days). They didn't touch my HDD - everything was intact when I got it back both times (they did tell me to create an account with admin rights so they can do diagnostics though).


BEST. SERVICE. EVER.

Razor Ramon HG
11-29-2009, 10:05 PM
Sounds about right from what I read over in Notebookreview.com.

There's also an authorized ASUS service center in Richmond run by compu2000.

http://promos.asus.com/US/ASUS_NB_Warranty/NB_ANSP/index.html

teaoh
11-29-2009, 10:23 PM
Thanks Razor Ramon HG! But I think i might go for the ASUS in terms of the customer satisfaction and it is my first laptop. Does anyone know why the ASUS at ncix has a T4300 processor and the one at Anitec has a T6600 processor? Only 3 dollars difference but same model.
http://www.anitec.ca/product/625127/asus-k70ij-c1-intel-core-2-duo-t6600-2-2ghz-4gb-ddr2-320gb-hdd-17-3-windows-7-home-premium-64bit-notebook-black-k70ijc1

Has anyone ordered from Anitec before?

Razor Ramon HG
11-29-2009, 10:28 PM
Anitec is perfectly fine. Just walk into their store, tell the guy at the counter what you want, and he brings it out.

What are you aiming to do with your laptop though?

teaoh
11-29-2009, 10:42 PM
I'm not quite too sure actually because i was planning to build a new desktop but than my dad suggested it be better to get a laptop (could also bring to school) So I guess it might be my desktop replacement.

I'm probably going to use it for internet, msn, music, movies, and Office programs (word,excel etc). and Maybe some counter strike hahah

TypeRNammer
11-29-2009, 11:25 PM
I'm not quite too sure actually because i was planning to build a new desktop but than my dad suggested it be better to get a laptop (could also bring to school) So I guess it might be my desktop replacement.

I'm probably going to use it for internet, msn, music, movies, and Office programs (word,excel etc). and Maybe some counter strike hahah

don't go nuts on getting any of the Asus G series, I was playing dirt 1 for like 15 mins, highest settings, and I was down to 50% battery already!:haha:

CP.AR
11-30-2009, 12:57 AM
new NCIX Richmond aberdeen store kills the "you know what you want" shopping experience.

At the old Capstan store it was quick and dirty - you walk in, you come out with what you want and a yellow sheet of paper

At the new store - it feels like they tried to cram future shop into a tiny space.

TypeRNammer
11-30-2009, 02:36 AM
new NCIX Richmond aberdeen store kills the "you know what you want" shopping experience.

At the old Capstan store it was quick and dirty - you walk in, you come out with what you want and a yellow sheet of paper

At the new store - it feels like they tried to cram future shop into a tiny space.

I was there right before they closed yesterday, good lord I saw a ridiculous amount of chinese people walking out with monitors left and right:haha:

walking space in the store is absolutely crammed:mad:

Razor Ramon HG
11-30-2009, 11:36 AM
I'm not quite too sure actually because i was planning to build a new desktop but than my dad suggested it be better to get a laptop (could also bring to school) So I guess it might be my desktop replacement.

I'm probably going to use it for internet, msn, music, movies, and Office programs (word,excel etc). and Maybe some counter strike hahah

Hmm, any standard laptop should do fine. Are you set on the screen size of 17" ? You can always get a smaller and more portable laptop, and just plug a wireless keyboard/mouse combo and monitor into it at home.

teaoh
11-30-2009, 01:08 PM
Hmm, any standard laptop should do fine. Are you set on the screen size of 17" ? You can always get a smaller and more portable laptop, and just plug a wireless keyboard/mouse combo and monitor into it at home.

No I'm not set but im thinking 17" to bring to school might take too much room in my bag, maybe a 15.6" is the best for me.
So I think I will try and pick up the 15.6" ASUS at NCIX
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45689&vpn=K50IJ-D2&manufacture=ASUS

Or should I just instead wait until the new year?

Razor Ramon HG
11-30-2009, 02:31 PM
If you don't need one at the moment, I highly recommend waiting until Boxing Day.

Usually there are great deals to be had, and if you don't mind lining up at some places, you could easily get a steal of a laptop.

isedera
11-30-2009, 03:26 PM
Scottman / you gotta set up a price range for your new lap top.
However, if you are not playing games at all, net book can be a good option for you.
(if you want something portable) 10" is too small but you might want to consider the screen size 11" or 12"

But... do not buy ATOM processor that has N270 or Z520 something like these.
Those are slow even in XP.

And... yes like what ppl says dont get Acer product line. (this includes Gateway and E-Machines) Also no HP. Let them make money through printers.

Toshiba / Sony / Samsung / LG / Asus is considerable brand with good service.

CP.AR
11-30-2009, 03:27 PM
If you don't need one at the moment, I highly recommend waiting until Boxing Day.

Usually there are great deals to be had, and if you don't mind lining up at some places, you could easily get a steal of a laptop.

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