[westcoastgsr]

I've narrowed it down to these 3 because they all fit my budget, all are LCD and all are 52". I'm leaning towards the Samsung based on specs, 80000:1 vs 50000:1 going to make a difference? Let me know what you think, BTW this is the top of my budget because I also have to buy a HD PVR box.


Toshiba Regza 52" 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV** (52XV645U)

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dm=DEBUG&sku_id=0770HDS0010122881&catid=

Samsung 52" 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV** (LN52B610)

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dm=DEBUG&sku_id=0770HDS0010122284&catid=

Sony Bravia 52" 1080p 120Hz LCD HDTV** (KDL52V5100)

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dm=DEBUG&sku_id=0770HDS0010120300&catid=

[ddr]

the 80000:1 vs 50000:1 is based on the manufacturer claims, i believe it's only useful when comparing the same brand or even just the same series.

[asian_XL]

^ +1

[dachinesedude]

go check it out in store to see which one looks the best, specs are meaningless sometimes

[nabs]

the Samsung, its an amazing freaking tv....

[6insomnia9]

Eh... Fuck those. Get a sharp.
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0770HDS0010124485&catid=

[Cman333]

Samsung>Sharp

[StylinRed]

sharp>samsung



get the Bravia though

[StylinRed]

or, order the Toshiba from the states

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/content/info/1258333671351?i_c=HP-111509-487059990

and get a free blu-ray player + save a few hundred

[Manic!]

sharp>samsung



get the Bravia though


Sharp over Samsung?Are you serious? Sharp had a problems with there tv's including banding issues.

Go with a Pioneer if you can find one or a Panny or a Samsung. The top of the line LG led is also up there too.

[ime2006]

Sharp ??? Are you guys still living in stone age ?

[skyxx]

Sharp is great in LCD tech but their QA has dropped a bit after they outsourced their production to Thailand etc etc. Samsung and Sony are currently the best in the LCD TV segment. :)

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

are u kidding me?


Samsung owns all



get the 6 series no question asked

seriously

[TekDragon]

are u kidding me?


Samsung owns all



get the 6 series no question asked

seriously

I'm in the market for a new LCD TV as well. Looking around at Visions, the Samsung 610 series seems to keep catching my eye for what I like best. What everyone else suggests is a good place to start, but see what looks best to you because you'll be the one living with it, not other Revscene members.

[underscore]

Generally, Samsung > all, Samsung and Sony use the same screens but Sony has a bunch of upconverting hardware and software added, which is rather pointless if you're getting an HD PVR and play something never than a Gamecube. So you'll usually be able to get more Samsung for the price, but overall it boils down to what looks best to you, if everyones eyes were the same there wouldn't be many TV brands.

Looking at the specs the Samsung has a 2ms advantage over the Toshiba, and 4ms advantage over the Sony, so if you do any gaming or watch any sports that's something to consider. Th Samsung panel and video processors also run at a higher bitrate, I'm not 100% sure how significant that is but mo bits is mo betta.

I'd say go to the store and check them all out, see what you like.

[VR6GTI]

I have the 610B its amazing, couldnt be happier. Its my 3rd Samsung LCD and i wouldnt choose another brand ever. Everyone that comes over is always impressed with the picture quality and most of them have 40-52" Tv's aswell. But say mine looks alot better.
Only shitty part is how quickly the value goes down. I paid 2499 7 months ago :(

[Guy_LikeWhoa]

I have the 610B its amazing, couldnt be happier. Its my 3rd Samsung LCD and i wouldnt choose another brand ever. Everyone that comes over is always impressed with the picture quality and most of them have 40-52" Tv's aswell. But say mine looks alot better.
Only shitty part is how quickly the value goes down. I paid 2499 7 months ago :(

I've got the same tv. couldn't be happier with it.:thumbsup:

[nsmb]

samsung, get it at visions

[ddr]

http://gizmodo.com/5407745/a-guide-to-choosing-the-hdtv-thats-right-for-you

imo you can't go wrong with any of the three. i don't know why ppl are samsung whores. I know for a fact that employees and companies make more on samsungs, because their cost is unbelievable. I'm not biased to Sony, and I haven't been shopping for TVs lately, but the XBRs really look nicer than the Samsung's or Toshiba's whenever I walk browse around a store. All the ballers tend to get a pioneer plasma (if you can get your hands on one now), or a sony. Not the right place for trends or arguments lol but that might tell you something.

You're right about samsung and sony receiving the same panels though. it's a lot of speculation but I've read that from the same batch, Sony buys the higher quality ones from a batch while Samsung takes the rest, while selling the worst to brands like dynex.

update: another link (http://gizmodo.com/5408494/giz-explains-the-difference-between-a-600-tv-and-a-6000-tv) that helps you decide. these two should be stickied so we don't have to repeat and repeat
don't get hung over specification differences of 1-2ms, 'dynamic' contrast etc. they're pointless. go to the store and stare at them. google up a guide to look at tv's in stores. they like to turn up the brightness and make the ones that they make the most money off of look the best (*cough samsungs).

[westcoastgsr]

Thanks everyone!!! I'm probably going to go with the Samsung. One question is that do you think 52inches is to big to watch 8-9 feet away? I plan to play games on it but the guy in the store said you might get dizzy.

[underscore]

There should be an online guide somewhere about the proper viewing distances for each size of TV, my friend keeps his 5ft from the wall because that makes it the proper distance from his couch :haha:

[JesseBlue]

man..i would just say get the biggest because in the end you won't stop about the coulda's and shoulda's but since they are all the same size go with the design that you like on the outside...you'll be staring at it for a long time...

[ime2006]

There should be an online guide somewhere about the proper viewing distances for each size of TV, my friend keeps his 5ft from the wall because that makes it the proper distance from his couch :haha:

get as big as you can.....lol

my TV history, 17 -> 26 -> 46 -> 55 -> next ?? HD Projector
All in my little room... XD

In Home Entertainment, Hardest thing to get is ""The ROOM""!!!!!!!!

[underscore]

^True. My future plan is 52" with a projector screen that drops down overtop :D (why? well TV for daytime/casual use, projector for nighttime/hardcore use)

man..i would just say get the biggest because in the end you won't stop about the coulda's and shoulda's but since they are all the same size go with the design that you like on the outside...you'll be staring at it for a long time...

The design? As in the frame? Who honestly looks at that? I mean if it was *really* ugly maybe, but otherwise you should be watching the TV not the frame...

[AccordCouped]

get the sammy

[VR6GTI]

I wouldnt goto a store to see which looks best. They have them setup to make the more expensive 1's look that much better. Do your research online and find out what suits your needs. Best Buy online will tell what size is proper for viewing. Ive gone from a 32 > 40 > 52. Im now happy with the 52 but ill go with a 55 next time :)

[ime2006]

I wouldnt goto a store to see which looks best. They have them setup to make the more expensive 1's look that much better.

This is not totally true.

For me, I always show exact the same source to my customers.
Same disc, same blu ray player, same cable, same default setting as well. :D:D:D:D

[VR6GTI]

This is not totally true.

For me, I always show exact the same source to my customers.
Same disc, same blu ray player, same cable, same default setting as well. :D:D:D:D
Thats just what i was told by a friend who worked at futureshop about 3 years ago.
Maybe its changed, maybe not every store does it. I could be wrong.

[Cman333]

Sharp over Samsung?Are you serious? Sharp had a problems with there tv's including banding issues.

Go with a Pioneer if you can find one or a Panny or a Samsung. The top of the line LG led is also up there too.

I think people that are Sharp fans are just bandwagon jumpers cuz they own it.

If you do any research on LCD tv's you'll learn alot about each brand and their pros/cons.

If you want the best in pic/colour quality go to a Pioneer or Panasonic plasma.

As underscore said, the Samsung and Sony's use the same panels but Sony uses their own video processing chips. All in all kinda useless for the extra money you need to spend.

[Cman333]

Thanks everyone!!! I'm probably going to go with the Samsung. One question is that do you think 52inches is to big to watch 8-9 feet away? I plan to play games on it but the guy in the store said you might get dizzy.

I have a 46" and I'm about 7-8 ft away and wish I went with a 52"

Especially for gaming.

I'm running a 6series Samsung also. Awesome bang for the dollar. I tried a comparable LG LCD but has two of them have issues within hours of using it (one fried and one had 200+ dead pixels). So I opted for a Sharp originally, but after extensive research on a couple models I was thinking of buying, found out there were quite a few issues (Price for sharp was cheaper than an LG which seemed odd). Either way I tried the samsung and holy crap did it blow the LG away.

Oh yeah, Westcoastgsr don't forget you need to Calibrate your TV (Plasma's especially after breakin period). Search a couple home theatre forums and you'll find tons of people post their settings and you can play with it from there, or you could spend a couple hours and do it yourself from scratch. Everyone's setup is a little different. Everything plays a factor. The lighting, the natural daylight, the distance, colour of walls, etc etc. So no one's setup is identical.

[6insomnia9]

If you are saying that Samsung and Sony uses the same screens... according articles i've read, Sony buys their shit from Sharp.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

wow this is retarded



samsung 7 series wont have stock until december 12th, god damn i already waited 2 weeks


:(:(:(

[Ch28]

go check it out in store to see which one looks the best, specs are meaningless sometimes

Do NOT check them out in store. They tend to hook them up to shittier SD feeds so you can't really tell the real difference between the two. i.e. hook up the tv they want to sell more of to a nicer HD feed/calibrated properly etc.

[westcoastgsr]

Just wanted everyone know I picked up the Samsung for 1499 at Best Buy it was on sale for one day. I love this thing, watched the PPV last night and been watching HD football all day!!!

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

which series did u pick up


i ordered mine 52" 610


fuck 7 series, its on back order for at least the next month


fuckin hell

[underscore]

Just wanted everyone know I picked up the Samsung for 1499 at Best Buy it was on sale for one day. I love this thing, watched the PPV last night and been watching HD football all day!!!

Just wait for a hockey game, once you've seen a game in HD anything less makes baby jesus cry. And if you don't already have one get a PS3 + BR remote + blurays/uncompressed 1080p downloads.

[westcoastgsr]

^

which series did u pick up


i ordered mine 52" 610


fuck 7 series, its on back order for at least the next month


fuckin hell

I got the 610, I dont know how I watched tv before. Only shitty thing is the SD channels look like shit, my old CRT HDTV was so clear but only 32 inches.

[Jmac]

If you are saying that Samsung and Sony uses the same screens... according articles i've read, Sony buys their shit from Sharp.Sony and Samsung had a collaborative contract that expired last year whereby they developed the panels together and they were manufactured at Samsung's facilities (the operation of which was, obviously, partially funded by Sony).

When the contract expired, Sony and Samsung parted ways and Sony hooked up w/ Sharp. The 2009 Sony products either use older Sony/Samsung panels or Sharp panels depending on the size (i.e. a 40" Sony HDTV would use a Sony/Samsung panel since Sharp doesn't make a 40" panel, they make a 42" panel). The upcoming 2010 Sony products and beyond will use co-developed panels manufactured at Sharp's facilities.

[ddr]

Thank your for the clarification. For a moment there I thought I was reading fanboy junk rendered in mafia wars language

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

I got the 610, I dont know how I watched tv before. Only shitty thing is the SD channels look like shit, my old CRT HDTV was so clear but only 32 inches.

wait wait wait wait


WTF!!!!


ok im hearing mix reviews

i heard SHAW HD either their channels itself quality sucks or their box sucks

my friend just recently got it and she said it looks fine


so what gives?

should i even pay nearly $100 a month on bullshit HD channels>

[underscore]

well tonnes of providers use the same box, to me Shaw's HD looks great but we only have the first level HD package in a bundle, of course some channels are better than others because some channels compress more when they send it to Shaw ie Spike SD imo looks the worst on an HDTV out of all the channels

[VR6GTI]

wait wait wait wait


WTF!!!!


ok im hearing mix reviews

i heard SHAW HD either their channels itself quality sucks or their box sucks

my friend just recently got it and she said it looks fine


so what gives?

should i even pay nearly $100 a month on bullshit HD channels>
I have the same problem. I was watching tv the other night and i noticed an HD channel looked like fucking shit then i flipped back to hockey game in HD and it was perfect.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

ok so i should still get the HD box than, i was worried it was the shitty ass box itself tats faulty.


if its channels, than every station should be different

[Valour]

I went to FS and got a Samsung 52" 750 series
3 layer tv stand
3 yr(or was it 4) warranty
Dynex Surge Power Centre
2 X 8 ft HDMI Monster cables
Included install and assembly and setup

$3030 Taxes included

Good deal?
10 minutes after install. TV defective! flickers etc. I got the replacement TV a month later.

ANyhoo, this TV is incredible! While watching HDMI connected PC porn, u can see the pores on the girls' ass cheeks! I have never fapped so happily in my life! Next time I'll shoot to hit the screen. I sit about 10 feet away. Tori Black I'll see you in a few hours.

[Manic!]

I went to FS and got a Samsung 52" 750 series
3 layer tv stand
3 yr(or was it 4) warranty
Dynex Surge Power Centre
2 X 8 ft HDMI Monster cables
Included install and assembly and setup

$3030 Taxes included

Good deal?
10 minutes after install. TV defective! flickers etc. I got the replacement TV a month later.

ANyhoo, this TV is incredible! While watching HDMI connected PC porn, u can see the pores on the girls' ass cheeks! I have never fapped so happily in my life! Next time I'll shoot to hit the screen. I sit about 10 feet away. Tori Black I'll see you in a few hours.

Hope you used a lot of KY when you went to FS.

[Crowtservo]

I went to FS and got a Samsung 52" 750 series
3 layer tv stand
3 yr(or was it 4) warranty
Dynex Surge Power Centre
2 X 8 ft HDMI Monster cables
Included install and assembly and setup

$3030 Taxes included

Good deal?
10 minutes after install. TV defective! flickers etc. I got the replacement TV a month later.

ANyhoo, this TV is incredible! While watching HDMI connected PC porn, u can see the pores on the girls' ass cheeks! I have never fapped so happily in my life! Next time I'll shoot to hit the screen. I sit about 10 feet away. Tori Black I'll see you in a few hours.

/facepalm.

The warranty you bought is garbage. After the manufacturer's warranty ends the TV will be worth less than what you paid for the extra warranty anyway.

Anyone who buys Monster cables, especially those that know how to use the internet and ESPECIALLY those posting on a board where it is discussed frequently, should be shot in the head.

The install/setup you pay for is usually a waste of money unless you are paying someone to install a speaker setup and even then I certainly wouldn't pay FS anything to do it.

No, not a good deal.

[jello24]

I went to FS and got
2 X 8 ft HDMI Monster cables

Good deal?

OMG i never thought id see the day someone brags about buying Monster HDMI cables... hahaha what a dumbass... FS plain raped you on that one...

are you an old lady by any chance?

[Valour]

i didn't buy the cables, I haggled to get them and the Power surge bar for free.

Delivery and setup is free, except the assembly of the stand wasn't. $100

Z-Line Venetian 3-in-1 Hybrid Stand $400 - I got it for $100

I also got a $500 rocketfish HDMI wireless thingy for $300

4 Yr Warranty $370 MSRP I got it for $200

2000+100+100+300+200 = 2700 X 1.12 = $3030

Looks to me I saved 300+200+170 = $670 on the package...

[Crowtservo]

i didn't buy the cables, I haggled to get them and the Power surge bar for free.

Delivery and setup is free, except the assembly of the stand wasn't. $100

Z-Line Venetian 3-in-1 Hybrid Stand $400 - I got it for $100

I also got a $500 rocketfish HDMI wireless thingy for $300

4 Yr Warranty $370 MSRP I got it for $200

2000+100+100+300+200 = 2700 X 1.12 = $3030

Looks to me I saved 300+200+170 = $670 on the package...

That's some mighty fine haggling.

I'm not a fan of extended warranties in general but 4 years for $200 seems pretty reasonable. I definitely wouldn't have paid $370 though.

[Manic!]

That's some mighty fine haggling.

I'm not a fan of extended warranties in general but 4 years for $200 seems pretty reasonable. I definitely wouldn't have paid $370 though.

You can get a credit card that will double your warranty for free. A 4 year warranty is only 3 years because you get one year with the TV.

[Valour]

there's some limitation to the credit card warranty. I have that as well. Visa Infinite. But there's things that it don't cover like dead pixel and power surge. Considering the first delivered unit was a lemon, I'm glad I got the extra coverage...