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simsimi1004
11-23-2009, 02:30 PM
Do i still have to pay

GST: $56.84
PST: $97.69
Duty: $66.68
Provincial Tire Fee: $20.00
Brokerage Fee: $30.00

If i bring my tires across the border from Point Roberts?
Are there more things to pay if i bring it across the border?

bcedhk
11-23-2009, 02:33 PM
You get charged gst pst, tire levy and duty fee. im presume you went to tirerack, and did the shipping option to Canada. If you ship to point Robert, you will not have to pay the brokerage fee.

ilvtofu
11-23-2009, 02:36 PM
EDIT: eddy89 answered while i was typing >.<

Also isn't there something about buying US made products that save you duty?

InvisibleSoul
11-23-2009, 02:50 PM
Yes, under NAFTA, any goods made in North America should not be charged duty.

bcedhk
11-23-2009, 03:03 PM
ya, but 90% of tires are mad in china/spain or in korea. so for budget tires you probably can't find one that is under NAFTA

SumAznGuy
11-23-2009, 03:06 PM
No provincal Tire fee whenever I brought tires across the border. Just 5% GST, 7% PST, 6% duty whenever the tires were not make in the USA.
And of course, save on brokerage.

keifun
11-23-2009, 03:31 PM
wow I must of lucked out then.
I picked up my tires from Blaine, WA after ordering it on discount tire direct.

Only paid GST/PST..the lady officer there didn't charge me duty..:thumbsup:

simsimi1004
11-23-2009, 03:34 PM
do u guys think Blizzak WS-60 or
Michelin XIce XI2 are made in the US?

UFO
11-23-2009, 04:49 PM
With shipping to Point Roberts, expect to have to pay GST and PST for sure. If you are very lucky, they may forget to charge duty and the tire levy. But the Point Roberts agents are usually quite on top of things, since collecting taxes and stuff is essentially all they do every day. They'll usually pull you in for anything more than $50.

If you ship to Blaine, they may even wave you through without having to pay any taxes. Depends on the border guard you get, but I have brought back $200-300 worth in an afternoon trip and not gotten taxed. But don't expect that to happen all the time. I like Blaine because of this and I can usually boot down to do a quick grocery run in Bellingham, but its further for me than Pt Roberts.

simsimi1004
11-23-2009, 05:24 PM
Where do u ship in Blaine,
i found on google maps Mail Boxes International by Blaine municipal airport, is that it?
Site please. It would actually be closer for me.

Also do u think i can luck out on taxes/duty for 1k$ of tire? lol.

alex.w *//
11-23-2009, 05:31 PM
i only paid gst and pst, no duty or brokerage fees

alex.w *//
11-23-2009, 05:34 PM
any parcel recieval service in blaine wa?

like the letter carrier in pt roberts..etc

SumAznGuy
11-23-2009, 05:45 PM
I use Hagens of Blaine.

Google that and you will find their addy and they are open late wednesdays and open saturdays.

Mugen EvOlutioN
11-23-2009, 06:40 PM
install tat shit and drive back


no bullshit fees

NNT
11-23-2009, 07:19 PM
How about this, for anything you bring across boarder, you need to pay GST/PST plus duty if it is not made in the NA. (I was looking to get a mountain bike, $1000 to buy in canada and 700 US to ship to Point robert, but duty on bike are 30% so I pretty much axed the idea) for for the person who didnt get charge duty is just luck, there're no way to guarantee you wont get charge.

illicitstylz
11-23-2009, 07:21 PM
I use Hagens of Blaine.

Google that and you will find their addy and they are open late wednesdays and open saturdays.

Hagen's of Blaine is great, $2 per item they receive for you and hold for 14 days ( +$0.50 per day over 14 days )

Fast and prompt, 30 seconds away from the border.

Don't require registration or anything.

Just put your shipping address to their place.

YOURNAME
816 Peace Portal Drive
Blaine, WA
98230

Walk in, say you're picking up for YOURNAME, pay $2.00 + tax/currency exchange, get your item and you're out of there.

xpl0sive
11-23-2009, 07:51 PM
i used to use Hagen's but they are only open till 5... and I usually go down during the week after work, and cant get there before 5... once the shut the door in my face right at 5pm just as i got there.... so needless to say i dont use them anymore... I now use mailboxes international.. they are open till 6pm everyday, and on wednsdays they are open till 8. It's $2.50/package, but you gotta register the first time, it costs $10. they send you an email when your package arrives. I always go to blaine now simply cause I almost never have to pay duties/taxes, where as in point roberts I was once pulled in when I had I had a $100 item, and didnt have the invoice, and when they pulled the item up on ebay, it showed as sold for $120, so they were going to revoke the item and make me pay a penalty, but then i talked to the supervisor and he just made me pay the taxes... so now i go to blaine and use mailboxes international... their info:

Your Name
1685 H Street #GD
Blaine, WA 98230
360-332-7678

Hours: M T R F 8:30 - 6:00 W 8:30 - 8:00 Sat 9:30 - 4:00

kayceeee
11-23-2009, 09:22 PM
so lets say i order from tirerack, i can just type in adresss for either hagens or mailbox intl and have it shipped there then go get it? do i have to notify them before hand or just go pick up and pay the fee for shipping there

and also for those that have ordered from tirerack

how is it packed? like 4 boxes separately? cuz im thinking if the 4 tires n rims will fit in my car.

SumAznGuy
11-23-2009, 09:41 PM
so lets say i order from tirerack, i can just type in adresss for either hagens or mailbox intl and have it shipped there then go get it? do i have to notify them before hand or just go pick up and pay the fee for shipping there

and also for those that have ordered from tirerack

how is it packed? like 4 boxes separately? cuz im thinking if the 4 tires n rims will fit in my car.

You order the tires from TR and have them shipped to the shipping place you want to pick up from.

Then you just show up at the place to pickup. Pay them and you are on your way.

For 4 tires, they will be packed in pairs.

For 4 rims and tires, not too sure.

godwin
11-23-2009, 09:52 PM
They don't pack tires.. they just put shipping stickers and ship them.

Wheels will be in boxes.. they won't be mounted.

If you want you can always get it shipped to a TR installer in Portland.. stay there for 72 hours to mount and test the tires.. since you have $750 tax free.. you don't have to pay anything extra.

so lets say i order from tirerack, i can just type in adresss for either hagens or mailbox intl and have it shipped there then go get it? do i have to notify them before hand or just go pick up and pay the fee for shipping there

and also for those that have ordered from tirerack

how is it packed? like 4 boxes separately? cuz im thinking if the 4 tires n rims will fit in my car.

bcedhk
11-23-2009, 09:56 PM
install tat shit and drive back


no bullshit fees

unless you were driving with bald tires or willing to leave ur good tires behind, i dont see the point. also customs are pretty keen on this, especially during this season when lots are wanting to save on winter tires.

they will come out, and check for your threads.

i rather pay 40-50 on duty, then be on the blacklist and having to be checked everytime i go to the states.

kayceeee
11-23-2009, 09:57 PM
But I thought I saw an option to have them mounted?
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Gh0stRider
11-23-2009, 10:22 PM
ya, if you buy from TR, you have to option to have it mounted and balanced.



NOTE: If you bought a Tire and Wheel Package your tires and wheels arrive mounted and balanced and are ready to install on your vehicle.

syee
11-24-2009, 09:25 AM
I use Security Mail Services in Blaine. I like them because they're open on weekends till 2PM. It's the only time I can really go.

They charge $2.50 a package and $10 one time registration for general delivery. I also have a mailbox there (about $8/month) so it's $2 a package and anything via USPS is free.

The best thing with having a mailbox is that they offer a "drop box" service where they'll put your stuff in a larger lock box and you can get to it at any time (they have a 24 hour access code for the door so you can get your stuff even if it's closed) They charge an additional $4 for that option but at least you're not stuck with going during opening hours.

Only thing that sucks about Blaine is the border wait. (I would highly recommend Nexus and even then, it's sometimes a good 20-30 min wait)

As for OP's question, like others have said, no brokerage fee and no tire levy to be paid. Duty might need to be paid depending on where your tires are made.

I've had tires (from Tirerack) shipped to the mailbox and they'll just tape the tires in pairs and tape a label onto it.

Gh0stRider
11-24-2009, 10:29 AM
Nexus is soo worth it. No line up whenever I go down.
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q0192837465
11-24-2009, 12:31 PM
mount it down there, drive ur gf for some shopping & do some burnouts. The tires will look old. Try to go when it rains, it'll be more difficult for border guards to guage ur threads

godwin
11-24-2009, 12:33 PM
Honestly just stay over a few nights.. especially in Or.. consider the hotel bill as your tax.

Most border guards don't care if your tires are a few bucks over the limit.

Doing burnouts on your new tires is just stupid.

mount it down there, drive ur gf for some shopping & do some burnouts. The tires will look old. Try to go when it rains, it'll be more difficult for border guards to guage ur threads

kayceeee
11-24-2009, 01:16 PM
For those that did the same day return trip..did u mount them there or just bring em back to mount?

And did u actually declare them?
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q0192837465
11-24-2009, 01:21 PM
Honestly just stay over a few nights.. especially in Or.. consider the hotel bill as your tax.

Most border guards don't care if your tires are a few bucks over the limit.

Doing burnouts on your new tires is just stupid.

lol, i dun mean burnout literally, but some aggressive driving to get rid of the color strips, u know wut i'm talking about.

bcedhk
11-24-2009, 01:34 PM
just pay the taxes, is not worth the hassle of staying over night , or trying to "trick" the customs people by doing agresive driving..

your gonna still save at least 1-2 hundred dollars from tires alone from buying down at the states.

When i bought my rims, I just also purchased a few other things (a camera lens, and a pair of jeans)... went to the boarder, declared i had tires, and customs inspected my car.. I had the seller earlier provide me a invoice stating it was an end of stock sale tire so the price was 50% off..

kayceeee
11-24-2009, 01:41 PM
So I guess at the end its still cheaper for me to order from TR..ship it to mailbox intl or hagens..go pick em up and declare and just get it mounted here right? Cuz that's what I'm thinking of doing cuz shipping there is like 100 compared to 300+ shipping to my house
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Gh0stRider
11-24-2009, 02:35 PM
im going for 2 days so that i can expempt $400 worth of goods.

Kalize
11-24-2009, 07:06 PM
I got NEW 17" wheels and Dunlop winter tires and center caps and lugs and mounted and balanced shipped to point roberts from tire rack for $1100
paid the GST and PST and mounted the wheels myself.
was well worth it. :haha:

kayceeee
11-24-2009, 07:12 PM
I got NEW 17" wheels and Dunlop winter tires and center caps and lugs and mounted and balanced shipped to point roberts from tire rack for $1100
paid the GST and PST and mounted the wheels myself.
was well worth it. :haha:

so u brought it back to vancouver n mount them yourself right?

how did the package come from TR and did u declare it when u crossed the border?

cuz im planning to do the same thing pretty soon

UFO
11-24-2009, 10:45 PM
How about this, for anything you bring across boarder, you need to pay GST/PST plus duty if it is not made in the NA. (I was looking to get a mountain bike, $1000 to buy in canada and 700 US to ship to Point robert, but duty on bike are 30% so I pretty much axed the idea) for for the person who didnt get charge duty is just luck, there're no way to guarantee you wont get charge.

FWIW, I think you have your numbers mixed up. Bikes and bike parts (except for complete wheels) are only ever charged GST even in Canada, they are PST exempt. If you bring a complete bike from US to Canada, and it is not made in North America, then the duty rate is 6.x%, definitely not 30%. You should never be paying PST on bikes or bike parts. The last two times I brought bikes into Canada, I only had to pay the GST even though I knew that I should have had to pay duty also. But many times the duty is skipped/ignored.

If you are crossing 'only' into Pt. Roberts, you HAVE to declare everything, or else there is a very high chance they will find it if you try and sneak anything across. The risk is really not worth it to save a few bucks, even a hundred bucks. The border guards there literally have not much better to do, and they are usually the younger guards there so they tend to not to be as lax as the ones in Blaine.

jlenko
11-24-2009, 11:01 PM
I use Security Mail Services in Blaine. I like them because they're open on weekends till 2PM. It's the only time I can really go.

They charge $2.50 a package and $10 one time registration for general delivery. I also have a mailbox there (about $8/month) so it's $2 a package and anything via USPS is free.

The best thing with having a mailbox is that they offer a "drop box" service where they'll put your stuff in a larger lock box and you can get to it at any time (they have a 24 hour access code for the door so you can get your stuff even if it's closed) They charge an additional $4 for that option but at least you're not stuck with going during opening hours.

Only thing that sucks about Blaine is the border wait. (I would highly recommend Nexus and even then, it's sometimes a good 20-30 min wait)

As for OP's question, like others have said, no brokerage fee and no tire levy to be paid. Duty might need to be paid depending on where your tires are made.

I've had tires (from Tirerack) shipped to the mailbox and they'll just tape the tires in pairs and tape a label onto it.

I'll give a :thumbsup: to Security Mail as well... I've been using them for a few years now. Never ever had a problem...

Kalize
11-25-2009, 07:33 PM
so u brought it back to vancouver n mount them yourself right?

how did the package come from TR and did u declare it when u crossed the border?

cuz im planning to do the same thing pretty soon

The tires were mounted to the wheels; the wheels were covered by cardboard...then 8 straps held it in place. 4 seperate labels with 4 different tracking numbers; bill of sale emailed to me as well as being taped to one of the wheels. bolts were included...taped to the inside of one of the wheels. tires i can see...wheels were covered and protected...had to take the packaging apart.
threw them in the back of my car and drove to the border.
I did declare it at the border..not gonna mess around with them...

kayceeee
11-25-2009, 08:19 PM
The tires were mounted to the wheels; the wheels were covered by cardboard...then 8 straps held it in place. 4 seperate labels with 4 different tracking numbers; bill of sale emailed to me as well as being taped to one of the wheels. bolts were included...taped to the inside of one of the wheels. tires i can see...wheels were covered and protected...had to take the packaging apart.
threw them in the back of my car and drove to the border.
I did declare it at the border..not gonna mess around with them...


so basically it comes rim+tire and in 4 separate boxes?

and how much did the border guys tax u?

Gh0stRider
11-25-2009, 09:14 PM
so basically it comes rim+tire and in 4 separate boxes?



ya, it comes in 4 boxes. im tracking my order right now, and it shows 4 packages.

orange7
11-25-2009, 10:03 PM
1 cent and a whopper during whopper wednesday

alex.w *//
11-25-2009, 11:13 PM
theres no boxes if you buy a wheel an tire package. its just open tire and cardboard to protect the wheels

mmmk
11-26-2009, 01:03 AM
i went 2 weeks ago to grab $800 worth of stuff...they charged me gst and pst

i went again last week to grab $300 worth of stuff...they charged me nothing, the customs officer just told me to carry on. sweet!

Kalize
11-26-2009, 09:51 AM
so basically it comes rim+tire and in 4 separate boxes?

and how much did the border guys tax u?

no boxes...just a cardboard piece covering the rim...the tires/rims were mounted and balanced; paid only gst and pst; total cdn at the end of the day was $1200; bought them for the E90

alex.w *//
11-26-2009, 10:50 AM
the letter carrier in pt roberts stash all the tires in the parking lot. I don't know if thats good or bad, but anyone can just grab them. and when it rains, its not covered, so your tires will have puddles of water inside them.

kayceeee
11-26-2009, 11:10 AM
the letter carrier in pt roberts stash all the tires in the parking lot. I don't know if thats good or bad, but anyone can just grab them. and when it rains, its not covered, so your tires will have puddles of water inside them.

Does that happen with all the mailbox services?
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Mugen EvOlutioN
11-26-2009, 11:10 AM
i went 2 weeks ago to grab $800 worth of stuff...they charged me gst and pst

i went again last week to grab $300 worth of stuff...they charged me nothing, the customs officer just told me to carry on. sweet!

$800 is pretty excessive, not surprised you got charged