[Tim Budong]

so i went for a snack..late nite
car dies on the way to no9

motherfucker
symptoms..exactly the same as the first time i had this problem

sigh....

DONT BUY VOLKSWAGON

this just confirms me that im ridding the car after repair and buying a ?

[thumper]

so i went for a snack..late nite
car dies on the way to no9

motherfucker
symptoms..exactly the same as the first time i had this problem

sigh....

DONT BUY VOLKSWAGON

this just confirms me that im ridding the car after repair and buying a ?

it's "volkswagEn"... if you're gonna put the hate on at least spell it right (heh sorry :p )

what is the problem? i don't even know what your first problem was...

[Tim Budong]

suspected APR fuelpump failiure
or low pressure fuelpump failiure

[thumper]

suspected APR fuelpump failiure
or low pressure fuelpump failiure

oh... joy :(

i think i better get my cam follower checked asap :cry:

[ericthehalfbee]

suspected APR fuelpump failiure
or low pressure fuelpump failiure

So you modified your car with aftermarket parts and then complain its a lousy car when one of those parts fails? :rolleyes:

[Tim Budong]

FAIL to u sir
the aftermarket part is a compliment to the fuel system of the car
the low pressure fuelpump is a part on recall
regardless, VW is going to look at the car now
am i complaining about the lousy car, why yes, is that such a big deal to you
welcome to venting anger 101

[Volvo-brickster]

Could be worse.

You could be driving a Ford.

[J____]

what car you have? i was goin to get a golf tdi

[hk20000]

Time to go the Japanese way.

The way I have gone out on rescue missions so many times to my friends in Euro (especially those VAG stuff) cars many have seen the light and changed to a Japanese DD.

Euro pride and joy for the weekends cool, Euro DD not so cool.

[Philly74]

am i complaining about the lousy car, why yes, is that such a big deal to you
welcome to venting anger 101


there's a love and hate for me too:haha:
one day i love my car and next day i hate my car

[!Aznboi128]

thats why i went from Jetta to accord

[danizer]

sorry to hear your dub is failing you :( i hope they fix your problem and make u in luff with the family again ^^

is your car APR tuned? do the parts void warranty? ie stage 1 chip...stage 2 fuel pump, dp, cat back ect...or does VW only honor REVO customers?

[Tim Budong]

well that depends
the typical talk is if its the aftermarket part that is affecting the car, then yes, void warranty
if not, then they have nothing to say

[tiger_handheld]

DAS AUTO

[EuroRepresent]

Hey what car and year? Also you can set the software to that you can turn it back to stock when you go for service.

[CivicTypeRice]

^ His profile says 08 GTI. Since it's a newer car, It's probably whatever modification OP had done that fucked up his car?

[Tim Budong]

^ His profile says 08 GTI. Since it's a newer car, It's probably whatever modification OP had done that fucked up his car?

its not modification that fucked up the car
its engine design flaw that fucks up the car

basically, the car has issues with the cam follower, its a hit or miss

[AVS_Racing]

HAHAHAHAA i told u to go JDM

[CivicTypeRice]

its not modification that fucked up the car
its engine design flaw that fucks up the car

basically, the car has issues with the cam follower, its a hit or miss
Ahhhh..I see. VW FTL!

[jeff_alexander]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuC6jeKjTdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEvy60bZYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWScRkqqRo

[Gh0stRider]

:IDL:IDL:IDL

[ilvtofu]

Is it the same thing that was wrong with Rcubed's a4 a while back?

[The_AK]

Aren't you always taking a risk when going with a European car? When my mom had her old audi 80 it was always expensive and troublesome to buy or change anything in the car. I remember it was a bitch for my dad to replace something as easy as the brakes pads in the calipers. Intentional or unintentional flaw? Is this just another way for euro manufacturers to get their customer to come back and spend money with them repairing the car? Hmm
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[Tim Budong]

i enjoy the driving portion of it
some issues i expect
issues with shit like this is not acceptable

[Lomac]

Time to go the Japanese way.


I've had more issues with my Japanese cars than I ever did with my Volkswagens. :(

[ShyGuy]

yah me too...my volkswagens and audi's were solid...all cars have problems to some extent.

[JesseBlue]

go chevy...you know their slogan now...may the best car win...even though the company already lost and got bailed out...

[orange7]

your one WV car != all WV cars

[metal]

I ruv mah jetta!

[Vitality]

this thread is win.. have u even checked your cam follower or cam? u're suppose to check every 10000 km. Also, a aftermarket HPFP wears your cams faster than stock FYI

[Tim Budong]

this thread is win.. have u even checked your cam follower or cam? u're suppose to check every 10000 km. Also, a aftermarket HPFP wears your cams faster than stock FYI

i checked my cams 3000km ago
it was fine

[J-Chow]

ouch will. I can feel the hatred in you.

hahaha, so is it a good thing i stayed away from the GTI?

I think i'll put my downpayment on that genesis instead :P

[Shun Izaki]

i'm gonna hate since you thought this was the best thing ever... :)

i've nearly total lossed my car (not my fault, flamesuit :P) and it's still running JUST fine...

BTW: never rant on RS and expect to get off scott free :P

[Tim Budong]

hahah
chowman
TSI and FSI are completely different in a sense that the TSI engine fixed all the flaws of the FSI

and no...i dont expect to get off scottfree or anything like this, im sure the more well educated people of the forum will say things taht FOREVER trump that of a inconsiderate/rude asshole

the sophisticated will always be better

[Great68]

this thread is win.. have u even checked your cam follower or cam? u're suppose to check every 10000 km.

Is this a VW requirement?

10000km is almost every oil change. Sounds pretty rediculous to me that VW would have someone unbolt a semi-major part of their motor every oil change. Then again, this is VW we're talking about..

[thumper]

Is this a VW requirement?

10000km is almost every oil change. Sounds pretty rediculous to me that VW would have someone unbolt a semi-major part of their motor every oil change. Then again, this is VW we're talking about..

the turbo engine in the GTI is a direct-injection setup, hence the need for a high-pressure fuel pump. because it's under so much load (120bar), and the stupid follower is a bucket design, the bucket becomes prone to premature wear and can fail before the recommended service/inspection intervals depending on oil/usage. as a result the plunger will hole the bucket and eat the cam lobe... you get the idea.

and it dosen't matter if the pump is stock or aftermarket... both will fail.

the new TSI engine dosen't use the bucket design anymore. vw changed it to a rollower bearing follower... and of course it's not something that can be retrofitted to us FSI owners :flamemad:

there is a company in ontario called H2sport that has designed a roller bearing follower for the FSI (after one of their sponsored cars blew up at the car and driver one lap of america event this year), but it's still going through R&D until they are 110% sure it will not fail... but it's been over a half-year now and still not ready :cry:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4484254

[Great68]

the turbo engine in the GTI is a direct-injection setup, hence the need for a high-pressure fuel pump. because it's under so much load, and the stupid follower is a bucket design, the bucket becomes prone to premature wear and can fail before the recommended service/inspection intervals depending on oil/usage. as a result the plunger will hole the bucket and eat the cam lobe... you get the idea.

and it dosen't matter if the pump is stock or aftermarket... both will fail.

the new TSI engine dosen't use the bucket design anymore. vw changed it to a rollower bearing follower... and of course it's not something that can be retrofitted to us FSI owners :flamemad:

there is a company in ontario called H2sport that has designed a roller bearing follower for the FSI (after one of their sponsored cars blew up at the car and driver one lap of america event this year), but it's still going through R&D until they are 110% sure it will not fail... but it's been over a half-year now and still not ready :cry:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4484254

I know how direct injection engines work. I was wondering if pulling the HP pump every 10k is a VW service requirement on the car. If it is, that's pretty stupid.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

the more you mod the more problems you shall encounter



but damn 08 is pretty damn new

[thumper]

I know how direct injection engines work. I was wondering if pulling the HP pump every 10k is a VW service requirement on the car. If it is, that's pretty stupid.

no it wasn't supposed to be, but it is now :(

thankfully it's not a major job. it took 20 minutes for mine to be replaced. but pulling the cam out replace after the pump munched the end off of it, and having to poke around inside the engine to find whatever is left of the bucket follower... very major :o

this is the TSB for audi from apr, but it's the same for VW:

http://www.goapr.com/support/fsi_fuelpump_installation.pdf

[hk20000]

If you don't like to fiddle with your car and you bought a VW......May God help you.

If you like to "drive" a car and not "fix" a car, then buy a TSX or something.

[Dentz]

I love our VW, but lately it's been a bitch - then again it has a 1.8T so it's a finicky engine anyways.

[orange7]

why is it that only the negative stuff gets pointed out?

we need someone with good experience with VW to say a few things in this thread.

[danizer]

had the GTI for 7.5K km and only have good experiences...is my daily driver, have alot of fun driving it (by fun i dont mean driving like a douche bag weaving in and out of traffic cutting ppl off and speeding). haven't had a problem with the car so far and pretty sure it will stay this way, car still drives like new!

if i were to complain about one thing (which is my fault) is the steering does rebound a bit on account of the H&R springs i had put in without coilovers ^^"

im sure ppl who are complaining about VW just got the unlucky few :( even great car companies (like VW) have a few...excuse the cliche...rotten eggs...those of you suggesting alternative markets (such as japanese or US) im positive they have a few bugs too!

[EuroRepresent]

I just put down deposit for an 06 Jetta 2.0t FSI. It's got 40,000km and i'll let you know if something goes wrong!

[hatasir]

told YA!

[dinamix]

i feel ya man..my 2nd car was a mk2 GTI..it had just over 142k ..fuel pump broke..shock tower bolts gave up..syncros were fucked..all that in a 6 month period..last vw ive ever owned..

[Lomac]

i feel ya man..my 2nd car was a mk2 GTI..it had just over 142k ..fuel pump broke..shock tower bolts gave up..syncros were fucked..all that in a 6 month period..last vw ive ever owned..

And you expect a 20 year old car not to have any problems?

:rolleyes:

[dinamix]

And you expect a 20 year old car not to have any problems?

:rolleyes:

i did but not to that extent. I loved that car to death but the maintainance was hurting me too much financially. I had a 88 crx,90 EK si and a 91 240sx with the same clicks that game me less of a headache. Its just from my experience. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5452/dsc07088f.jpg
maybe its just me but i hear too much stories of VWs being unreliable.

[Lomac]

Was that yours? If so, I think I must have met you at one of the DOV/Dubberz meets... If not, there's one running around locally that looked the exact same. :lol

I'll admit that there are a few VW's out there that definitely had a larger than normal amount of issues (MK3's auto tranny's, B3 Passat's entire electrical system, MK4's VR6 coilpack, etc), but as a whole -- and presuming the cars are maintained properly -- they're just as (un)reliable as any other car out there.

[seakrait]

love my 2002 gti 337 (admittedly with low mileage - 70k+). love the 1.8t engine. at least it isn't a vr6. *runs and hides*

quality of manufacture. solidness of car. low down punch of the 1.8t. 1.8t easily chipped for greater power. love it.

no qualms about owning another VW (like a mk5 5dr gti with DSG *dreams*).

[skyxx]

^ NICE!!!! PICS!!!

[thumper]

why is it that only the negative stuff gets pointed out?

we need someone with good experience with VW to say a few things in this thread.

i can't :cry: .... i always say it's not me that hates the car, instead it's the car that hates me. i've gone back to the dealer 7 times in the last 2 years of ownership, and the last time i was there it took 3 weeks for it to be fixed (no parts). i barely have 10k kms on it.

- broken sun visor (day 1 of ownership)(warranty)
- broken lumbar support (ditto)(warranty)
- front wiper arms missing parts(!)(warranty)
- steering ecu fail(warrantyX2)
- alarm system intermittent fail (just because the LED is blinking dosen't mean it's on apparently)(dosen't act up when i go to dealer... figures :rolleyes: )
- a/c compressor fail (warranty)
- front subframe bolts fail (warranty)
- mystery CEL that didn't stay on long enough to vagcom a code from (may you never come back...)
- 1 quart of oil ever 5-6k kms (supposed to be considered "normal" :eek: )
- bloody rattle in the passenger door that just won't go away (please go away....)

granted, these issues are considered to be "minor"... my fuel pump follower hasn't disintegrated and eaten my camshaft, my engine hasn't been rebuilt/replaced because of bad rings, the DSG transmission hasn't blown up or given me the PRNDL flash of death, etc... am i complaining too much? my last car was an old 10 year old toyota product that had 140k kms on the clock when i had to let it go, and it only went back to the dealer once for warranty work (valve cover gaskets) in the 5 years that i had it. whenever i go to the vw service dept. it's like a madhouse there... there could be as many as 3-5 service advisors working the counters with owners sometimes lining up like a weekend at costco. when i was with toyota the service dept. was like a ghost town with only one single advisor at the counter who can barely stay awake because there was nothing to do.

having said this, i'm just glad there is a good service advisor at the dealer i go to (clarkdale). if it weren't for him giving me no warranty grief like the horror stories i've heard of with other dealers, i wouldn't have stuck it out for this long... but after the warranty expires, who knows???

my friends mock me saying that i bought a gti so that i can drive a jetta service rental with a mystery stain in the back seat all the time :o

however... i haven't had any problems in the last 4 months, so i'm becoming optimistic again. pray for me everyone! :thumbsup:

[thumper]

why is it that only the negative stuff gets pointed out?

we need someone with good experience with VW to say a few things in this thread.

where is princeallure? i know he's out there... his gti is a model of perfection... over 60k kms and only the clutch blew up on it, and that's it. and now he's selling it... personally i think he should get it bronzed or sth :rolleyes:

haulin_oats had zero problems with his gti as well before he sold it... i think he only had one CEL resulting from a bad aftermarket air intake install.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

i can't :cry: .... i always say it's not me that hates the car, instead it's the car that hates me. i've gone back to the dealer 7 times in the last 2 years of ownership, and the last time i was there it took 3 weeks for it to be fixed (no parts). i barely have 10k kms on it.

- broken sun visor (day 1 of ownership)
- broken lumbar support (ditto)
- front wiper arms missing parts(!)
- steering ecu fail
- alarm system intermittent fail (just because the LED is blinking dosen't mean it's on apparently)
- a/c compressor fail
- front subframe bolts fail
- mystery CEL that didn't stay on long enough to vagcom a code from (may you never come back...)
- 1 quart of oil ever 5-6k kms (supposed to be considered "normal" :eek: )
- bloody rattle in the passenger door that just won't go away (please go away....)

granted, these issues are considered to be "minor"... my fuel pump follower hasn't disintegrated and eaten my camshaft, my engine hasn't been rebuilt/replaced because of bad rings, the DSG transmission hasn't blown up or given me the PRNDL flash of death, etc... am i complaining too much? my last car was an old 10 year old toyota product that had 140k kms on the clock when i had to let it go, and it only went back to the dealer once for warranty work (valve cover gaskets) in the 5 years that i had it. whenever i go to the vw service dept. it's like a madhouse there... there could be as many as 3-5 service advisors working the counters with owners sometimes lining up like a weekend at costco. when i was with toyota the service dept. was like a ghost town with only one single advisor at the counter who can barely stay awake because there was nothing to do :lol

having said this, i'm just glad there is a good service advisor at the dealer i go to (clarkdale). if it weren't for him giving me no warranty grief like the horror stories i've heard of with other dealers, i wouldn't have stuck it out for this long... but after the warranty expires, who knows???

my friends mock me saying that i bought a gti so that i can drive a jetta service rental with a mystery stain in the back seat all the time :o

however... i haven't had any problems in the last 4 months, so i'm becoming optimistic again. pray for me everyone! :thumbsup:

thats quite a bit of problems in 2 years ! damn
:eek:

[TheSalesman]

time to trade in that VW and get yourself a Honda or Toyota.

[XtC-604]

and i thought with all of VW's part sharing that they could make something work properly for longer than 2 days

[thumper]

time to trade in that VW and get yourself a Honda or Toyota.

i've been in hondas for almost a decade... no more thanks. too tired of seeing myself at every streetlight, getting stolen/stupid high insurance rates, and damn ricers/haters :rolleyes:

as for toyota... nothing in their current lineup interests me. i'm hoping my gti will hold together long enough for the FT86 to come out.

[hk20000]

^ Even the salesman says get it from the 2farms (Chinese call them "雙田" coz the kanji for both honda and toyota, or rather, toyoda are "田" for farms)

And for you who don't want to buy one that's because your first concern is not "reliability" but rather "style" or "enjoyment". For the OP he just hates it when his DD fails on him so the only logical outcome is the 2farms. Your opinion doesn't matter anyway maybe you like to fix cars? The OP doesn't want to touch a wrench if he doesn't have to so we all say....it's 2farms time.

I have said it before and I'll say that again, keep a Euro VAG car for joy and pleasure good, use it for DD you are testing your luck.

[spoon.ek9]

hahaha will... i'm not even gonna say it, you already know what to do.

[TheSalesman]

i've been in hondas for almost a decade... no more thanks. too tired of seeing myself at every streetlight, getting stolen/stupid high insurance rates, and damn ricers/haters :rolleyes:

as for toyota... nothing in their current lineup interests me. i'm hoping my gti will hold together long enough for the FT86 to come out.

tired of seeing yourself at every streetlight? Not too clear on what that means but the newer stuff doesn't get stolen as much as the old school eg's and ek's. They all come with immobilizer now and the ricer theme is just about gone now. Although there are still a few out there. OP wants a reliable car and I suggested the 2 most reliable. Instead of bashing honda/toyota, what do you suggest the OP gets?

[Great68]

i can't :cry: .... i always say it's not me that hates the car, instead it's the car that hates me. i've gone back to the dealer 7 times in the last 2 years of ownership, and the last time i was there it took 3 weeks for it to be fixed (no parts). i barely have 10k kms on it.

- broken sun visor (day 1 of ownership)(warranty)
- broken lumbar support (ditto)(warranty)
- front wiper arms missing parts(!)(warranty)
- steering ecu fail(warrantyX2)
- alarm system intermittent fail (just because the LED is blinking dosen't mean it's on apparently)(dosen't act up when i go to dealer... figures :rolleyes: )
- a/c compressor fail (warranty)
- front subframe bolts fail (warranty)
- mystery CEL that didn't stay on long enough to vagcom a code from (may you never come back...)
- 1 quart of oil ever 5-6k kms (supposed to be considered "normal" :eek: )
- bloody rattle in the passenger door that just won't go away (please go away....)

granted, these issues are considered to be "minor"... my fuel pump follower hasn't disintegrated and eaten my camshaft, my engine hasn't been rebuilt/replaced because of bad rings, the DSG transmission hasn't blown up or given me the PRNDL flash of death, etc... am i complaining too much? my last car was an old 10 year old toyota product that had 140k kms on the clock when i had to let it go, and it only went back to the dealer once for warranty work (valve cover gaskets) in the 5 years that i had it. whenever i go to the vw service dept. it's like a madhouse there... there could be as many as 3-5 service advisors working the counters with owners sometimes lining up like a weekend at costco. when i was with toyota the service dept. was like a ghost town with only one single advisor at the counter who can barely stay awake because there was nothing to do.

having said this, i'm just glad there is a good service advisor at the dealer i go to (clarkdale). if it weren't for him giving me no warranty grief like the horror stories i've heard of with other dealers, i wouldn't have stuck it out for this long... but after the warranty expires, who knows???

my friends mock me saying that i bought a gti so that i can drive a jetta service rental with a mystery stain in the back seat all the time :o

however... i haven't had any problems in the last 4 months, so i'm becoming optimistic again. pray for me everyone! :thumbsup:

Holy shit.

And I was looking at GTI's too when I bought my car. I'm glad I gave them a pass...

[Great68]

tired of seeing yourself at every streetlight? Not too clear on what that means but the newer stuff doesn't get stolen as much as the old school eg's and ek's. They all come with immobilizer now and the ricer theme is just about gone now. Although there are still a few out there. OP wants a reliable car and I suggested the 2 most reliable. Instead of bashing honda/toyota, what do you suggest the OP gets?

He means that there are so many Hondas out there that it takes all uniqueness away from driving one.

I gotta give honda credit, at least for my old civic they sure designed a car to be easy to work on.

I've helped a friend work on his VW, and I remember scratching my head thinking "Why the fuck would they have designed that part that way?"

[!Yaminashi]

Learn to live with the door rattles man, they'll never go away lol
My car rattles too

[Tetsugen]

What generation GTi's do you guys own ? Jesus christ I was so excited for the new MK6 and Golf-R if it ever came !

[yvrnycracer]

I have had my fair share of problems... but my car is also modified like most of the people on here... with modifications come problems and thats just the name of the game...

Overall I am very happy with my car and it runs amazingly well... currently butting about 350hp through the engine and will start spraying meth and have an updated tune and will be pushing for 450whp...

As much as i want a new car I still enjoy my car and anything else in the same price range really doesn't have the same feel or finish that a VW does... I love VW but want a RWD or AWD car next so I am looking at something else but for now... I have a VW and its a great car!

And if you are modifying... checking the cam follower and all the other parts that are known to fail is just part of regular maintenance... :thumbsup:

[Tim Budong]

alot of the engine mishaps from bad design were fixed in the MK6
as for what to do with car, i shall see,

[CivicTypeRice]

^Torch it

[spoon.ek9]

^ trade it in, then torch it

[unit]

I've had more issues with my Japanese cars than I ever did with my Volkswagens. :(

depends on which car i guess. 'japanese cars' are not necessarily reliable, some are, some arent. i've also known lots of friends who have had tons of problems with vdubs (more problems than i've ever had with any of my (or my family's) japanese cars). my friend had 2 golfs that had tons of problems (mk3, mk4) and my coworkers 97 jetta seems like its always in the shop, and he's babied it since it was brand new.

[Lomac]

depends on which car i guess. 'japanese cars' are not necessarily reliable, some are, some arent. i've also known lots of friends who have had tons of problems with vdubs (more problems than i've ever had with any of my (or my family's) japanese cars). my friend had 2 golfs that had tons of problems (mk3, mk4) and my coworkers 97 jetta seems like its always in the shop, and he's babied it since it was brand new.

Admittedly they're older JDM cars (Nissan s12, 2x Mazda MX6 LS, and a 7g Honda Accord coupe), but even when compared to my also admittedly older VW's, it's a tossup as to which were less reliable. I know newer cars are supposed to be much more "reliable" but even comparing known issues of VW's to those of, say, Toyota, there isn't much in the way of saying which one comes up on top. Sure, Volkswagen may have more TSB's listed, but I know of plenty of Toyota owners of new cars that all have the same issues, but Toyota still wont release a recall for 'em.

Besides, I've yet to drive a modern Toyota or Honda that feels like it has any sort of character to it. With the exception of the S2K, they all feel far too sterilized. It's one reason why many people are willing to pick another car brand that's allegedly less reliable, but promises a much more exciting driving experience.

[thumper]

Besides, I've yet to drive a modern Toyota or Honda that feels like it has any sort of character to it. With the exception of the S2K, they all feel far too sterilized. It's one reason why many people are willing to pick another car brand that's allegedly less reliable, but promises a much more exciting driving experience.

^ what he said. once i have the vw roadside assist emergency phone number memorized things should be okay :thumbsup:

[Iceman-19]

You drive a VAG and then you are suprised when it gives you problems?

[JHatta]

learn how to do routine check ups on your car, and it won't die on you next time you want to eat chinese food

[orange7]

switch to a lancia and then back to a vw.