[Hondaracer]

this may sound like a crackpot theory but i've recently come to this conclusion

I finally convinced a friend lately to buy the Fallout 3 game of the year edition, i nagged him for the longest time telling him how great the game is, and i know it's the type of game he would like, so finally when the game of the year edition came out he bought it

One night at his place we were having a few beers and i watched him play for an hour, once we called it quits i realized that the 360 version is a completely different experience than what i had playing on the PC

the lack of overall detail on the 360 changed my entire feelings for the game watching him play, without the level of detail you are not nearly immersed nor does the world feel as real as it does on the PC

everything looked so dreary and dark, washed out and blurry

keep in mind this was on a 52" Bravia XBR4 so it's not like i was watching on a tube TV, but yea without that level of detail games are not nearly what they truely are, especially ones that have the amazing graphics

i do give games like Drake's revenge their credit but it's still and always will be PC for me, some screens i took

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[SkinnyPupp]

It's likely that consoles will eventually be nothing more than data streaming devices, with PC's processing the graphics at a central location. Just like streaming a show over the internet, only with data going both ways.

[.Renn.Sport]

PC will not have the following games
God of War
Final Fantasy 13 (maybe after a few yrs when everyone forgets about it)
Gran Turismo
Forza
Newest Halo
Metal Gear Solid
Uncharted
Rockband/Guitar Hero
and pretty much anything thats not a FPS will not be available on PC

PC gaming is only good for MMO nowadays, who the fuck wanna buy a new video card to play the latest game.... not to mention all those random crashes window causes and high error rate in PC games, whats worst is that you find out that ur computer is too shitty to run the game at native resolution of your monitor cuz your pc is already obsolete when you just purchased the newest top of the line video card a year ago

[AccordCouped]

plus buying a gaming pc is expensive compared to a console.. ps3 is what? 299? xbox? 199?

i do agree that some games like fps are better on pc but i doubt consoles will die..

[Hondaracer]

consoles are there for the reasons hyde pointed out, the majority of people cannot afford to keep up a system that can play all current games

another high point of the PC is brand new games are all free *ducks

[.Renn.Sport]

keep in mind, current gen consoles technology are from 3 years ago. PS3 is still running a 7800GTX only. back then, the video card alone cost more then the PS3 console at launch price.

PC also have new hardware release every 6 months. When you are using a $2000 gaming PC compare with a $300 playstation, it better look good. But my point is. PC only have 1/10th of the games console will have. It will never be better then console, not to mention the ease of use in a console compare to a PC.

It would take me roughly a minute to get me into the main menu of a game on a console. but on a PC, i'd have to install it, punch in the CD key, then mess around with the display setting before I can even start the game for the first time.

[underscore]

^ don't forget updates, patches, and shit like how L4D2 is only working for like half the people who bought it (or so I read, don't hate me if that's false). Yes console games can be buggy but not near as buggy.

Also is Fallout 3 ported from the PC -> 360? That would make a difference. As well as you are using two different screens. That and personally I don't see anything particularly stunning in those screenshots.

[underscore]

Oh and I forgot one key thing: Splitscreen/same console multiplayer. Not very common for FPS but pretty much any other genre it can be great.

[twitchyzero]

PC games too expensive to keep up, buggy, incompatibility issues, hackers but dedicated servers, server list, mods and closer knit community is what will keep the hardcore gamers. I still prefer all my FPS because of the obviously great precision of mouse/keyboard.

I like many of the casual gamers have moved onto console gaming and diminished the time on PC because it's too expensive to keep up with that, console can last you a good 6 years for $400-500 vs $1800 rig that can play optimally for 2 years MAX. If you're cheap like me tho invest in newer technology (dual core processor at the time) and you can always upgrade every few years with more ram and overclock.

Shittier online experience (fucking 13 year olds whining in their mic), but you get to sit back comfortably in a couch, no bugs and incompatibility issues, wide variety of game titles, no hackers and you can invite frds to play along.

[underscore]

^ good point about the 13 year olds, I swear I played a round of CoD4 earlier where I was the only one over 12. The plus side is they suck but the downside is I got teamkilled for being "too good." I swear they need to make it so it scans your fingerprint and confirms your age on the controller before allowing you to play M rated game, fuckin kids/shitty parents.

[unit]

buy a ps3 at launch, you've spent $500 for a console that will keep up for 6-7 years.

buy a top end gaming computer, you've spent easily over $1000 for a system that will keep up for 2-3 years to play the same games.

[ime2006]

PC can do much higher resolution in gaming.

I was playing COD:MW2 with 1920 x 1080 on my 55inch LED.
Everything extra high detail. 4AA..etc.

My young bro is drooling compare to his xbox 360....lol

[yuusha]

buy a ps3 at launch, you've spent $500 for a console that will keep up for 6-7 years.

buy a top end gaming computer, you've spent easily over $1000 for a system that will keep up for 2-3 years to play the same games.

The same games at higher detail, with free DLC, patches and mods, more functionality overall, more readily available hd content, controls better suited for FPS/RTS/MMO...

[SkinnyPupp]

buy a ps3 at launch, you've spent $500 for a console that will keep up for 6-7 years.

buy a top end gaming computer, you've spent easily over $1000 for a system that will keep up for 2-3 years to play the same games.
A $500 video card bought at PS3 launch is far more capable than the PS3, and still would be today.

[underscore]

^ but that's only your video card. Add in everything else and you've spent way more.

Controls are better for MMO and RTS but for FPS and everything else it's a personal choice.

[hotjoint]

From what I know, if a console and a pc have the same game, the pc version will always have better graphics. Now you have to factor in the amount of pc games that come out vs consoles games. Guess it just depends on whether or not a game is available for the specified platform. I will always choose consoles over pc anyday. The last pc game I played is CS.

[underscore]

From what I know, if a console and a pc have the same game, the pc version will always have better graphics.

If you can run at those graphics

[SkinnyPupp]

If you can run at those graphics
It doesn't take much. A $120 video card can easily match a 360, and a $100 card could probably match a PS3

[JKam]

I got out of gaming because of PC. Costs me too much to run the games (having to upgrade my computer every 2 years). Got back into gaming because of PS3, everything is cheaper and I can trade the games back in unlike PC games.

[twixxer]

I was a pc gamer, but console gaming is just so easy, no installing anything, no driver updates, no updating hardware. I love just relaxing on my couch now and playing games. I went from having a gaming pc to just have a 360 and a ps3. Also me and my bro love to battle it out in nhl. Two player gaming i find easier on the consoles.

[underscore]

It doesn't take much. A $120 video card can easily match a 360, and a $100 card could probably match a PS3

Plus you need the mobo, cpu, ram, case, psu, a big hdd to hold all the games and shit, plus a good kb/m for it to be half decent. that adds up.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

PC u gotta upgrade all the time


buy a console and you are worry free for at least 5 years +

[SkinnyPupp]

Plus you need the mobo, cpu, ram, case, psu, a big hdd to hold all the games and shit, plus a good kb/m for it to be half decent. that adds up.
But then you're not comparing the right things... a PC isn't just a video game device, but a video card is. So you can buy a video card (gaming device) and add it to a PC (which everyone already has).

[VR6GTI]

With how much the online market of consoles is coming along, most pc games are just going to be ported games. The console meets the requirements of a hardcore gamer and someone that just wants to pop a game in and play. I dont know anyone that would say PC > Console for gaming.

[Hondaracer]

My current pc is just over 2 years old, it cost around 1000 at the time

with $200 in upgrades last week I can play the newest games at highest quality

it's not like you can live with a console for Internet use etc so your kind of killing 2 birds with 1 stone with pc's
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[A.RSXS]

You can have more players online through dedicated servers. Plus easier controls and if you have a laptop, you can play it pretty much anywhere...

[twitchyzero]

^ gaming on laptop is fail...
But then you're not comparing the right things... a PC isn't just a video game device, but a video card is. So you can buy a video card (gaming device) and add it to a PC (which everyone already has).
You're forgetting the other prices that add up which is essential for PC gaming
- Ram ($60+)
- CPU ($140+)
- mobo possibly if imcompatibility issue is an concern ($100-200)

The average PC that "everyone already has" has inadequate memory and CPU power to run new games even if you slap in a $300+ card.

what you can't fail a mod? haha

[underscore]

But then you're not comparing the right things... a PC isn't just a video game device, but a video card is. So you can buy a video card (gaming device) and add it to a PC (which everyone already has).

Most of the people I know with consoles would need a whole new computer. Not many people run systems that are just a video card away from being a gaming machine. hell only about half of my friends (or less) have something with more than a single core processor and >1GB of RAM

Plus you have to consider location. a kb/m on the couch is useless, and with a console you can retain your current bigass TV/audio setup, a PC most likely is at a desk with a smaller screen and shittier speakers..

[JKam]

btw who has a desktop anymore besides hardcore gamers? I'm talking about desktops that all you need is a nice graphics card and boom, you have a gaming computer. Most people I know have a laptop and a shitty desktop

[Great68]

Most of the people I know with consoles would need a whole new computer. Not many people run systems that are just a video card away from being a gaming machine. hell only about half of my friends (or less) have something with more than a single core processor and >1GB of RAM

Plus you have to consider location. a kb/m on the couch is useless, and with a console you can retain your current bigass TV/audio setup, a PC most likely is at a desk with a smaller screen and shittier speakers..

One of my desktops makes a good internet browser/SNES emulator/xvid player for my TV, the other makes a good fileserver.

Neither would make a good gaming PC, they're still from the AGP era.

[underscore]

One of my desktops makes a good internet browser/SNES emulator/xvid player for my TV, the other makes a good fileserver.

Neither would make a good gaming PC, they're still from the AGP era.

My desktop is the same, runs SNES and N64 great, streams to the PS3's great but can't game for shit. Oddly it's backwards in that it has a pretty dece video card but everything else is shit (Sempron 3400+, 512MB RAM, 160GB HDD, GeForce 6600 [512MB]) :haha:

[ddr]

y are ppl constantly trying to replace pc gaming with a console? everyone owns a pc or two. some will have consoles. some can/cannot justify the $ invested in systems for the extra fps or detail. end of story.

[Hondaracer]

its pretty much under $1000 every 2-3 years for a brand new PC, less if your upgrading and smart with your research

thats cheaper than games, peripherals and a console

[nns]

OT, that Geby guy really has it in for you. Did you kill his dog or something?

[underscore]

lol apparently. I know he dissed the PS3 on a moot point so I dissed the 360's atrocious fail rate and wait times for repair on another forum. It's not my fault Microsoft has a useless design team.

[Cman333]

Fuckit. Buy all the consoles and a gaming PC and you have the best of all the worlds :)

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

a computer will always be better because it can be more than just a gaming device. and when it assumes the role of a gaming device, it can do it better.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Fuckit. Buy all the consoles and a gaming PC and you have the best of all the worlds :)

lol or that.

[SpuGen]

My last PC was built 7 years ago for 700. Added a $120 video card half way 2 years in and it's lasted me until up about a month ago when the video card melted.
It would proably still be running, but instead I bought a new i7 rig that cost $1700 and should last just as long, and still be quick. 7 years of constant abuse, porn, over clocking, viruses, Diablo 2, CS etc. I should probably just find an old agp card and keep it running.

Consoles on the other hand.. I have a PS2 slim, and it's covered in dust in my closet. Other than the random times I play Gt4, it's useless and because of that I refuse to buy a new console.
Consoles are for Gran Turismo, RPGs and hack& slash games.. FPS games on a console is retarded. I blame Halo.

PCs are just way more versatile and I can upgrade it to make it go faster. Ever play DOTA/ HON/WOW? Can't do that with a console.
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[Hondaracer]

Fuckit. Buy all the consoles and a gaming PC and you have the best of all the worlds :)

That's what I've done and I've got three paper weights and a PC lol
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[Eclypz]

That's what I've done and I've got three paper weights and a PC lol
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Me too :(
I have an Xbox that was turned on only twice this year. (only because Forza 3 came out)
A Wii that I have never turned on this year yet.
And a PS3 which i turn on once a week to play NHL10 for an hr.

The rest of the time, I'm gaming on my PC.

[underscore]

Why would you buy all 3 consoles when you clearly prefer PC gaming?

[Cman333]

That's what I've done and I've got three paper weights and a PC lol
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Haha. Yup!

At least the PC can watch and store porn/movies/tv shows, Surf websites/forums, socializing, along with the gaming aspect.

I love gaming but can never commit that much time to it. I'll go through spurts of gaming for a few days/weeks then completely stop for a month or two.

I could technically live without my xbox/ps3/wii.

I couldn't go without a PC.

[Cman333]

Why would you buy all 3 consoles when you clearly prefer PC gaming?

There's alot of exclusives with each console. Sometimes people want to try them all.

I just got a used xbox recently for GTA:LC and Forza 3.

[unit]

console gaming is way better for sports games thats for sure.

try getting 4 of you in front of your computer monitor and playing nhl10! probably not gonna happen, and even if it does, very ghetto!

[SkinnyPupp]

I have all 3 consoles (except the XBOX is dead now) and I only use them when a) The game is not available for PC (or there is no English version available to me) or b) There's a game that my wife wants to enjoy with me. For instance, I won't be playing Dead Space on PC, since she is going to love that game. But I did play Dragon Age on PC. Well besides the fact that it's a PC game first and the port isn't so great, she wouldn't have enjoyed sitting there for 8 hours watching me tinker with party equipment :lol

[Hondaracer]

Why would you buy all 3 consoles when you clearly prefer PC gaming?

As was mentioned above I bought them all for a few exclusive titles

the ps3 actually gets a decent amount of use but all media and bluray
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[underscore]

At least the PC can watch and store porn/movies/tv shows, Surf websites/forums, socializing, along with the gaming aspect.

you don't keep porn on your PS3? :confused:

[DJ BiG P]

120 inch HD screen projector 1080p, i7 setup with gtx275, 7.1 B&W's all around some games I use kb/mouse some xbox controllers. Computers are not limited to just monitors anymore and their not limited to do just one thing which is game for me im very picky when i comes to gaming consoles just dont cut it I cant handle the blurryness and jagged edges of everything its just too damn annoying. PC > consoles fo sho!!! Price and game selection thats another story...

One thing that almost made me buy a ps3 was MW2 for pc dropped split screen for spec ops, xbox controller support and vista droped 7.1. That was a big dissapointment for me but after going to my buddy's house and playing a few rounds of two player spec ops on his sony xbr4 there was just no comparison i'd rather play by myself with no sourround sound then deal with all the jagged edges and blurryness.

[SlySi]

Iv stopped spending on PC equipment about 3 years ago.
Tired of buying 600 dollar video cards, operating systems, upgrades, more memory, the hunger for a bigger LCD screen, etc.etc.etc.. the list never ends...just so I can play the latest games.
When I played Battlefield or any first person games in the past. I needed my settings to be maxed. And I strived to get to there.
I hated consoles, I never understood why people played them. They could never be as quick as me with my mouse and keyboard, my graphics were always better than the consoles, the consoles were always the dumb down version of the game.

Well its all turning around now. PC games are being dumbed down. The market knows where the money is. I can use the joystick just as good as mice and keyboard now. And if I look at Modern Warefare 2. The graphics just look sick. And I dont have to worry about tweaking the graphics.


Still to this date.. I know Iv sacrificed quality of games for the sake of saving thousands of dollars.

Im now 100% PS3 and Xbox player now.
I dont want to boot up my Vista/ Windows operating system just to load a game. Nor do I want to see my game crash and boot me out.
I have a notebook that surfs the net for me.
I do miss the great graphic quality and definitely the keyboard, mouse combination, but I do believe I have played enough to use the xbox or PS3 josticks to beat the best of them now.

Im an avid gamer since the Atari days to the Commodore to the PC........

I NOW enjoy sitting on my couch, in front of my 47" tv, nice whisky on the coffee table.

I want to get off work, get on the couch, hit the PS3 button or Xbox button and boom... the console is on. No fiddling with a keyboard and mouse with start button to get to the game... and hopefully it doesnt crash.

On a side note to OP.
Iv never played Fallout 3 on PC. Nor have I seen it on the PC.
I am glad I never have. As far as Im concerned. Fallout on PS3 or Xbox is one of the best games I have ever played. I dont compare it to the PC. Nor do I need to. Its simply one of the greatest games ever made.

[Jmac]

This thread is sad ...

I game at least a little bit every day and, according to my Vista Performance & Reliability Monitor, I haven't had a piece of software crash on me since July 20, 2008 (17 months ago, GRID) and I've had a 10.00 Reliability Index since then.

This is a computer I spent roughly $1000 on 2 years ago and it still plays the majority of games at high settings (GTA IV the only one not at high, but still looks better than PS3/Console).

I have about 30 games I've purchased through Steam and another 15 or so not through Steam over the years (since 2003). Most of the games I've got on Steam I got on half-price specials within a month or 2 of release (and PC games are already cheaper than consoles). Adding everything up, I've spent probably about $1200 on games over the last 6 years. On a console, not only could I NOT carry those over to the next console in many cases, but I would only have got about 20 games within 2 months of release instead of 45 and those games will carry over to my next PC as well, unlike the consoles.

PCs can use the XBOX 360 controllers w/o any issue; PCs can be hooked up to your HDTV; a keyboard/mouse is not useless on a couch (assuming you have a wide armrest, that's how I game).

[6insomnia9]

Lawl i'm a PC guy as well, i bought a PS3 80gb (the good one , which played PS2 games) back in a day, got bored of it in like a month and sold it. I haven't bought a console since then... Don't get me wrong, consoles are great , but can't beat the good ol' keyboard and mouse. And buying games on pc, fuck that. Haven't bought a games since torrents were out, so.. basically since the internet was born. I mean why pay for something when you get it for free? lol.

[underscore]

piracy kills gaming. if you just wanna try it out, sure, but if you like the game you should actually buy it.

[6insomnia9]

I have other things to waste money on, barely anytime to play games now a days

[Jmac]

Lawl i'm a PC guy as well, i bought a PS3 80gb (the good one , which played PS2 games) back in a day, got bored of it in like a month and sold it. I haven't bought a console since then... Don't get me wrong, consoles are great , but can't beat the good ol' keyboard and mouse. And buying games on pc, fuck that. Haven't bought a games since torrents were out, so.. basically since the internet was born. I mean why pay for something when you get it for free? lol. I used to be the same way, but spending like $20-$50/month on a game or 2 isn't as big of a deal as it used to be. That's 1-2 hours of work now :p

[twitchyzero]

PC games that are only singleplayer = torrent. Once i've tried it's enjoyable i'll go buy it for console when it goes for cheap.
PC games with great MP = buy
although console games are more expensive...i feel that overtime their value is more worthy (something that I would collect and not throw away).

Nowadays for PC games I always opt for steam if possible.

[6insomnia9]

PC games that are only singleplayer = torrent. Once i've tried it's enjoyable i'll go buy it for console when it goes for cheap.
PC games with great MP = buy
although console games are more expensive...i feel that overtime their value is more worthy (something that I would collect and not throw away).

Nowadays for PC games I always opt for steam if possible.

Yeah, i torrent singeplayer games.

I used to be the same way, but spending like $20-$50/month on a game or 2 isn't as big of a deal as it used to be. That's 1-2 hours of work now :p

I mean I don't want to be an asshole but that's how i see things, the only game I've bought recently was like L4D/2.