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: Car company with the most "great" cars


dachinesedude
11-27-2009, 07:16 PM
Got this topic from Top Gear, found it interesting, which company do you think made the most "great" cars? Doesn't matter if they made shitty ones too, just as long as they have many great ones. For me, I dunno, Ferrari?

Leopold Stotch
11-27-2009, 07:20 PM
Nissan

G
11-27-2009, 07:37 PM
lamborghini.

penner2k
11-27-2009, 07:52 PM
I'm gonna go with Audi.

Meister1982
11-27-2009, 07:56 PM
Pagani lol

d1
11-27-2009, 08:10 PM
For an economic brand, Mazda.

hk20000
11-27-2009, 08:14 PM
Mitsubishi. Everything has "spirit of competition" LOL.

CivicTypeRice
11-27-2009, 08:32 PM
HONDA

NeoDestinyZ
11-27-2009, 08:53 PM
Obviously Toyota :).

toyota86
11-27-2009, 09:00 PM
what does it "great" mean in this context? haha
for me probably BMW Motorsport GmbH

twitchyzero
11-27-2009, 09:03 PM
Trebant
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_iOAV-CSA3QE/RzEPRRb0ICI/AAAAAAAABlI/M_EGxBdUO3Y/Mar13+025.jpg

CivicTypeRice
11-27-2009, 09:10 PM
Daewoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY1PqrZMLGk

CP.AR
11-27-2009, 09:16 PM
I vote Honda/Acura - they have something for everyone, and no major fuck ups too.... (fine maybe the element)

GabAlmighty
11-27-2009, 09:54 PM
volvo

Wykydtron
11-27-2009, 10:04 PM
As much as I've never been a fan, I'm going to have to say Mercedes.

JesseBlue
11-27-2009, 10:11 PM
most of them will say...bentley..

StylinRed
11-27-2009, 10:25 PM
hyundai

tiger_handheld
11-27-2009, 10:31 PM
Ford.
If it wasn't for Henry Ford and his model T , we would not be where we are today.

vexor
11-27-2009, 10:50 PM
most of you are getting it wrong.... it's Ford

model T, GT40, Focus, RS models, Mustang... personally I wouldn't say any supercar makers because pagani/koenigsegg haven't existed that long and ferrari/lambo made some good looking cars but not that great to drive back in the day (according to reviews, not speaking from experience)

JulyZerg
11-27-2009, 10:54 PM
BMW!

yellowpower
11-27-2009, 10:58 PM
^ I would have to agree with you HP.

M series ; highly respected
3 series, 7 series........mmm

vash13
11-27-2009, 11:14 PM
+1 for Volvo even though they are overpriced.

jlenko
11-27-2009, 11:27 PM
DMC.

shenmecar
11-27-2009, 11:33 PM
Toyota and Nissan

jeff_alexander
11-27-2009, 11:43 PM
Great and desirable are two different things.

A desirable car like the DB5 is sexy because James Bond had it, but in reality it was truly rubbish, as opposed to a great car.

My vote goes to Porsche.

Doridori
11-27-2009, 11:48 PM
i'd say porsche or ferrari

dachinesedude
11-27-2009, 11:50 PM
Great and desirable are two different things.

A desirable car like the DB5 is sexy because James Bond had it, but in reality it was truly rubbish, as opposed to a great car.

My vote goes to Porsche.

didn't Hammond say that? lol truth though

JSALES
11-27-2009, 11:55 PM
Toyota

jeff_alexander
11-28-2009, 12:33 AM
didn't Hammond say that? lol truth though

Yes, but the point I am making is that people often can't distinguish the two. Notice the above comments? Pagani? Seriously? It it's only made like 5 differn models.

skyxx
11-28-2009, 12:48 AM
Ford would go to the top. :)

TRD Rs200
11-28-2009, 01:36 AM
Toyota and Honda

Wykydtron
11-28-2009, 06:09 AM
Ford is definately WAY up on the top of the list area. But Still think Mercedes still there. So much great history and cars from luxury to racing throughout that history.

xpl0sive
11-28-2009, 07:47 AM
^ I would have to agree with you HP.

M series ; highly respected
3 series, 7 series........mmm

M series used to be highly respected. now they make soccer mom SUV's for the Cayenne crowd...

Mugen EvOlutioN
11-28-2009, 09:40 AM
Nissan?

Eastwood
11-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Chrysler line-up of muscle cars for the 60's-70's.

Ford is also up there.

EuroRepresent
11-28-2009, 11:59 AM
I would have to say BMW yea

!Tigger
11-28-2009, 12:10 PM
i would have to agree with Ford. RS200, model t, ford gt, gt40.

ilvtofu
11-28-2009, 12:20 PM
BMW is pretty high up there, if only my image of it wasn't ruined by fob mainlanders in richmond...
Porsche is one of the great brands too, even though I'm not very fond of cars like the 914...
But since this thread doesn't matter if they made shitty ones...

skyxx
11-28-2009, 12:26 PM
i would have to agree with Ford. RS200, model t, ford gt, gt40.

To add to that, the Cosworth and RS models. :thumbsup:

bigassbooger
11-28-2009, 01:04 PM
TOYOTA

boostfever
11-28-2009, 01:13 PM
TOYOTA

you obviously have not driven many different cars, have you?

JulyZerg
11-28-2009, 01:32 PM
^ I would have to agree with you HP.

M series ; highly respected
3 series, 7 series........mmm

Bang on. The legendary ///M badge and the benchmark 3-series are still one of the best cars out there..

The Porsche's are up there too I would say..

Bouncing Bettys
11-28-2009, 02:13 PM
Volkswagen - the beetle anyone? most produced car in history, easy to fix, floats, iconic, movie star, great offroad, hitler's baby

spawned Porsche so i include anything great porsche has made as VW

responsible for econohatchbacks being sporty and fun with the rabbit/golf GTI

vr6

buggatti veyron and its W16 Volkswagen engine

aircooled engines

ilvtofu
11-28-2009, 02:39 PM
^Don't forget the iconic hippie vans!

or how about quattro?

The_AK
11-28-2009, 03:28 PM
it has to be honda,
if you think about it what he means by "most", not only have they made some cars that fit many people's needs, but, theres a higher proportion of them on the road, haha

LenovoTurbo
11-28-2009, 05:36 PM
Honda/Toyota for reliability, fuel economy and affordability.

asahai69
11-28-2009, 05:53 PM
ford/gmc/chrysler

toyota makes some great cars aswell
honda is definatley up there also

Lomac
11-28-2009, 07:43 PM
There are plenty of companies out there that have made "great" cars, but I still think that Ford tops the charts. As others have already mentioned, they came out with plenty of groundbreaking cars like the Model T and Mustang, but they were also responsible for other vehicles like the Transit van, the GT40, the F150, the Focus, the Escort and even the T-Bird. You guys may not think these are desirable vehicles, but in their own way they were all very significant to the automotive world.

On the other hand, someone like Volkswagen can also be considered for the top spot. Why? Well, first off is the Beetle. It, alongside the Minibus, helped spawn an entire social movement for over a decade. The MK1 GTI was arguable the car that started the entire hot-hatch craze.

BMW's only viable claim is the introduction of the M-division, which is essentially throwing a big engine into a smaller car. The only issue with that is Ford and GM were playing that game more than a decade before the original M3 was ever introduced.

Toyota... well, asides from the Prius pretty much sparking the fuel savings craze, I can't think of any other vehicle that can put them as a contender.

The same goes for Honda. They make some decent, reliable cars... but nothing that has stood out as groundbreaking.

Chrysler... The original 80's minivan. 'Nuff said.

bcrdukes
11-28-2009, 07:51 PM
The same goes for Honda. They make some decent, reliable cars... but nothing that has stood out as groundbreaking.

The first NSX and the introduction of VTEC.

bigassbooger
11-28-2009, 07:52 PM
you obviously have not driven many different cars, have you?

look at other peoples posts. They are posting toyota/honda. Or is it because my post was all caps that you noticed it?
Toyota makes some great cars that will last pretty much forever.

jeff_alexander
11-28-2009, 08:00 PM
look at other peoples posts. They are posting toyota/honda. Or is it because my post was all caps that you noticed it?
Toyota makes some great cars that will last pretty much forever.

A reliable car imo is a good car, but it just doesn't fit into the category of great. Thats like saying a piece of granite is great because it lasts forever.

Lomac
11-28-2009, 08:05 PM
The first NSX and the introduction of VTEC.

Variable Valve Timing doesn't belong to Honda. That claim to fame goes to Nissan since they were the first company to use an electronic version of it. Alfa was the first to use it mechanically. But that's engineering greatness, which doesn't really fall under the scope of "great cars."

The NSX I'll give you since it was more or less the first "common man's" supercar.

d1
11-28-2009, 08:34 PM
The people who've mentioned Toyota have no idea what they're talking about - this thread is not about the car company with the most boring cars.

asahai69
11-28-2009, 09:17 PM
they didnt get to #1 by making shit vehicles

skyxx
11-28-2009, 09:20 PM
^ They got to #1 by making "Reliable" vehicles that were economical. Basically Brand power and no one said they were shit cars, just that not a lot of them were "Great" cars.

jeff_alexander
11-28-2009, 09:26 PM
Volkswagen called, says they want to be recognized as the worlds largest automotive manufacturer.

crazyazn
11-28-2009, 09:58 PM
Dacia...duhhh

boostfever
11-28-2009, 11:07 PM
Toyota is the most evil car company on the planet. whores will do anything to sell more cars.
bullshitting people is one of them.

minimebang
11-29-2009, 12:48 AM
honda , mazda(rotary)

Jackygor
11-29-2009, 01:19 AM
I gota say BMW and porsche

BMW135i
11-29-2009, 02:13 AM
Nissan

Ford_Fanatic
11-29-2009, 11:28 AM
The OP could have made his definition of "great" a little more clear. There are great cars and then there are cars destined for greatness.

The Honda Accord's a great car. Cheap, reliable, good on gas, decent performance and decent luxury. But is that what the OP was talking about when he said great.

The Ford GT-40, who trounced on Ferraris at Lemans, was no doubt loud, rickety and not one bit refined. But that car was destined for greatness from the start.

So this question can't be answered until the OP defines what "great" means.

J____
11-29-2009, 01:08 PM
Lancia

!SG
11-29-2009, 02:44 PM
the topic is too vague, as vague as our exhaust laws.

what do you define as a great car? even if u were to specify it as performance, this doesnt help much?

is it great as most desired? still found on the road? greatest heritage? greatest development from track to street?

vexor
11-29-2009, 03:54 PM
Lancia.... to be honest never saw that coming

jeff_alexander
11-29-2009, 04:26 PM
Dacia Sandero

Wykydtron
11-29-2009, 04:40 PM
Very true, great needs to be more defined. Also, everyone needs to stop posting one word answeres like "nissan" without trying to explain why. Why are they great? What cars, what reasons? Anything of substance.

twitchyzero
11-29-2009, 04:59 PM
Chrysler's original jeep in WWII

notching
11-29-2009, 05:36 PM
1. Lancia
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7830/snapshot20091129183259.jpg

versep
11-29-2009, 06:39 PM
I can't believe no one said jag.

Synapz
11-29-2009, 06:49 PM
And after all the "Honda this" and "Toyota that", not 1 japanese manufacturer is on that board.

skyxx
11-29-2009, 06:53 PM
^ Cause they didn't make enough "Great" cars but made alot of "Reliable" cars.

jeff_alexander
11-29-2009, 08:04 PM
That was a truly beautiful Top Gear Segment. RWD > Audi Quattro in rallying? Where is your god now Audi Fanbois?

http://www.rallyservice.it/images/lancia%20037.jpeg

Captain Bondo
11-29-2009, 10:17 PM
I agree it sorta depends on how you define "great" - but all in all I'd say Ford as well.

I have 3 volvo's, but it definitely ain't volvo.

They only ever sold diesel cars from ~1980-1989, and it was a horrible, horrible bastardized VW motor. They are almost all dead now. The diesel they have now is nice but not sold in North America.

The horrible french V6 they offered as their only 6 cylinder engine from ~1978-1991 is another terrible, terrible motor as employed by Volvo.

They've made some good cars but highest number of great cars? What? Smoke crack much?

wahyinghung
11-29-2009, 10:33 PM
I would say both bimmer and vdub