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lancergts1986
11-30-2009, 09:33 PM
wondering how many non-evo 08+lancers are out there? i see them on the street all the time (some moded one's). im trying to mod my 08 gts, but mitsubishis dont seem to be as nearly as popular as toyotas, nissans or hondas in the modification world.......:(

roastpuff
11-30-2009, 09:51 PM
Because most of the dealers/salespeople are douchebags... like the one I was talking to when trying to buy a Lancer Ralliart at Newtype.

Leopold Stotch
11-30-2009, 09:53 PM
Because most of the dealers/salespeople are douchebags... like the one I was talking to when trying to buy a Lancer Ralliart at Newtype.

i had a very poor experience at Newtype as well.

the guy tried to hand me his card and i refused to take it.

lancergts1986
11-30-2009, 10:02 PM
lol shit i bought my car at newtype the guy i bought the car from was cool but the manager there was an asshole and service guy was trying to get me to replace my brand new wipers so the dealers made the cars unpopular?

ilvtofu
11-30-2009, 10:06 PM
hmm, i've had trouble with vancouver mitsubishi service department too...

twitchyzero
11-30-2009, 10:07 PM
Mitsubishi is a lot bigger in asia..but still smaller than honda/toyota.
i think the reliability isn't as great as honda/toyota that's why it's not as popular here (the main reason why people are buying those brands in the first place).
Oh and they have a pretty small car selection...conglomerate corporation (household appliances, stationaries, turbine engines) so they aren't always focused on manufacturering cars

CivicTypeRice
11-30-2009, 10:13 PM
^ My Mitsu TV lasted 4 years:mad:

bimmer91
11-30-2009, 10:28 PM
DON'T DISS MITSUBISHI MOTHER FUCKER, COME GET SOME DSM.

toyota86
11-30-2009, 10:33 PM
If anything I'll blame chrysler for mitsubishi's shitty north american image.

keifun
11-30-2009, 10:33 PM
Because most of the dealers/salespeople are douchebags... like the one I was talking to when trying to buy a Lancer Ralliart at Newtype.

I got the same treatment at the Newtype dealership as well when my dad and I were also looking at the ralliart.

We had to flag a salesperson over so they can answer our questions, and the place wasn't even busy at the time..

maxx
11-30-2009, 10:34 PM
they are terrible to drive, terrible to sit in, terrible to touch, and expensive to finance, and have shitty salesmen

bimmer91
11-30-2009, 10:51 PM
they are terrible to drive, terrible to sit in, terrible to touch, and expensive to finance, and have shitty salesmen

BMW has shitter salesmen because they'll rape you till you buy the car.

Jackygor
11-30-2009, 10:55 PM
they are terrible to drive, terrible to sit in, terrible to touch, and expensive to finance, and have shitty salesmen

I cannot agree to the first 2 point, but I can attest to the last 3.

Mitsubishi have improved many things since the launch of the the grill design, but they fail to improve the stealership that sells them, as well as their service department . Its absolutely abysmal.

cococly
11-30-2009, 10:57 PM
Don't forget they almost went broke in 2001 or something?

I think DEEP depreciation on most models are one of the many reasons of the unpopularity.

danizer
11-30-2009, 10:58 PM
new type was the reason i got a GTI instead of a RalliArt...

it was a chick sales...she looked pretty good but all she did was sell to my dad (since he was holding the money) totally ignored me and my brother when we were inquiring about the car...and she was so fuckn smug too...made it seem like we were at their hands...so we showed that bitch whose baws and bought a GTI :)

Jackygor
11-30-2009, 11:03 PM
Don't forget they almost went broke in 2001 or something?

I think DEEP depreciation on most models are one of the many reasons of the unpopularity.

yup...and then Mitsubishi motors asked Mitsubishi Group for 1 birrion dorras so they don't have to go bankrupt...

blackk
11-30-2009, 11:05 PM
Because most of the dealers/salespeople are douchebags... like the one I was talking to when trying to buy a Lancer Ralliart at Newtype.

I called Newtype once about a Ralliart that i wanted to see, the sales representative was such a fuckin prick. I asked him for an address and he refused to give it to me because he says I could come in anyday and buy the car from someone else instead of him. So I was liek fuck off :mad:

clowe
11-30-2009, 11:15 PM
i had a very poor experience at Newtype as well.

the guy tried to hand me his card and i refused to take it.

+1

-1 for Newtype. The people at Vancouver Mitsubishi were really nice, greeted nicely at the door, salesperson went through lots of stuff with us and even brought us coffee but wouldn't budge on negotiations much.

Solo_D33A
11-30-2009, 11:27 PM
mitsu cars are ok and interesting in the 90s, when they're scandalizing and covering up defects...
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2004/06/10/mitsubishi_040610.html

Another thing is they never came into Canada until a few years ago, yet they didn't bring in the Evo til last year, until then there's no interesting cars as they came to Canada as Eclipse's dead to be a big slow cruiser, 3000gt's dropped, galant never came in VR4 ever since the 87-92 version, basically they came to Canada as almost a Japanese version of Saturn....

What's worst is imo their reliability, Japanese cars are known to be reliable, but Mitsu proofed there's a bad apple in every bunch.

Naka San
11-30-2009, 11:40 PM
I cannot agree to the first 2 point, but I can attest to the last 3.

Mitsubishi have improved many things since the launch of the the grill design, but they fail to improve the stealership that sells them, as well as their service department . Its absolutely abysmal.

I agree but not just because i drive one but its the truth! Although before they had some scandal issues but now its basically solved!

Newtype sucks i do agree with that, was looking for an EVO X but they sorta don't know what they are doing. The manager Todd and the sales rep steven gave me attitude.

Vancouver Mitsubishi is pretty cool, at the end didn't end up buying EVO X because the white ones were all sold out around canada.

IMO i think that vancouver is the best dealer so far... can't say they are the best though

roastpuff
11-30-2009, 11:41 PM
I called Newtype once about a Ralliart that i wanted to see, the sales representative was such a fuckin prick. I asked him for an address and he refused to give it to me because he says I could come in anyday and buy the car from someone else instead of him. So I was liek fuck off :mad:

Guy that I talked to spouted off on how dealers worked etc. instead of actually dealing with numbers for us. Seriously annoying. Walked out when he went to "talk" with general manager.

new type was the reason i got a GTI instead of a RalliArt...

it was a chick sales...she looked pretty good but all she did was sell to my dad (since he was holding the money) totally ignored me and my brother when we were inquiring about the car...and she was so fuckn smug too...made it seem like we were at their hands...so we showed that bitch whose baws and bought a GTI :)

Haha, that's funny, because Newtype was the reason I got my GTI too! :haha:

Where did you get it? I got mine at Clarkdale with Terry Chen. Terry owns a Evo X GSR, too, which is also funny/ironic.

threezero
11-30-2009, 11:44 PM
new type was the reason i got a GTI instead of a RalliArt...

it was a chick sales...she looked pretty good but all she did was sell to my dad (since he was holding the money) totally ignored me and my brother when we were inquiring about the car...and she was so fuckn smug too...made it seem like we were at their hands...so we showed that bitch whose baws and bought a GTI :)

wow she sucks at being sales. I though any sales person would know to sweet talk the kid when parent and kid show up to buy a car. Convince the kid and the kid will pretty much do all the sales work for her to the parents.

having never actually own a mitsu i usually see young people driving it and almost always a lancer (few evos occasionally) my family and my relative all disapprove of mitsu for reason even they themselves cannot name. My uneducated guess is mitsu's call to fame is the evo? pretty much none of their other cars are well knows (the only other two i can name off the top of my head is gallant? and its suv that looks like a lift up lancer wagon, name escapes me) those that brought lancer brought it base on evo's legend? flame suit on


EDIT: i forgot eclipse but the new generation is serious fuck u i can't tell if its going forward or backing. the older gen look alot getter though. Don't see much eclipses around

optiblue
12-01-2009, 01:23 AM
didn't go richmond, but I found the vancouver one to be a little pushy... didn't even let me test drive their evo! Northshore might be a further drive, but it was definately worth it for me... great sales, nice people, and great service department!

Mitsubishi in Canada is relatively new and their prices are way too high. The price of the highest model Lancer could get you better performing cars from other brands, the price of Rally Art you're looking well into Japanese Luxury Lines, and the Price of Evo's you could have European Luxury Cars. It's all relative though... I still got one ;)

!SG
12-01-2009, 05:07 AM
mitsu's only been in canada for a short time, you cant expect it to catch on so freakin fast. honda/toyota/nissan's have been here FOREVER!

go to the states, way more mitsu's!

danizer
12-01-2009, 07:04 AM
Guy that I talked to spouted off on how dealers worked etc. instead of actually dealing with numbers for us. Seriously annoying. Walked out when he went to "talk" with general manager.



Haha, that's funny, because Newtype was the reason I got my GTI too! :haha:

Where did you get it? I got mine at Clarkdale with Terry Chen. Terry owns a Evo X GSR, too, which is also funny/ironic.

YO! I bought it from Terry too!!!

hk20000
12-01-2009, 07:15 AM
they had to have me drive the car I "might be considering to trade in" there just to let me test drive the GTS

that is a horrid car to drive anyway. Before it got the pushy sales or what not I just walked out.

Mugen EvOlutioN
12-01-2009, 07:29 AM
mitsu only came to canada at 2001, therefore it hasnt been in canada for very long.


Look at subaru, they aint selling that many either.


Subies and mitsu in jap isnt as big as nissan/honda/toyota


There is a lot more mitsu in asia tho

thumper
12-01-2009, 07:36 AM
wondering how many non-evo 08+lancers are out there? i see them on the street all the time (some moded one's). im trying to mod my 08 gts, but mitsubishis dont seem to be as nearly as popular as toyotas, nissans or hondas in the modification world.......:(

i'm just speculating, but my guess is that the aftermarket industry looks at the brand as a whole rather than just a single model? if the brand in general is not selling, why invest funds and development time into parts that may not sell because of low demand?

like others who have already commented above, mitsubishi just does not have enough models in their automotive product lines. the galant is not competitive in it's niche, the endeavor is old, the eclipse failed in translation from concept to production... you get the idea. the outlander seems to be doing okay, but it cannot support the entire brand on it's own, and even though the evolution is popular among us gearheads, how many of us can actually afford to own one? they have a small pickup (raider) that they sell in the US that they didnt even bother bringing here, and why won't they give us the colt?

hopefully there will be change, especially with so many dealerships closing, such as saturn and chrysler. hasn't deer lake chrysler in burnaby just change over to mitsubishi? maybe this upcoming new MIEV electric car might change things up...

thumper
12-01-2009, 07:42 AM
mitsu only came to canada at 2001, therefore it hasnt been in canada for very long.


Look at subaru, they aint selling that many either.


Subies and mitsu in jap isnt as big as nissan/honda/toyota


There is a lot more mitsu in asia tho

subaru seems to be doing fine, because they have cornered the niche market for affordable awd transportation:

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/June2009/02/c2186.html

but then they have a much smaller range of models than most, but all their models are popular (well, maybe with the execption of the tribeca, and that now-dead baja)... and now that toyota has bought a big chunk of fuji heavy industries shares, and all the buzz being generated over this new FT-86 coupe which needs another year before release, subaru may be poised for something big?

turb0fr3ak
12-01-2009, 08:16 AM
new type ignored my buddy who was ready to buy an evo, he stood their for 20 mins and did not get greeted. the only time someone said anything was when he tried to go up stairs to look at the wheels and was told the area was "not public" so we when to north vancouver instead

shenmecar
12-01-2009, 09:59 AM
new type ignored my buddy who was ready to buy an evo, he stood their for 20 mins and did not get greeted. the only time someone said anything was when he tried to go up stairs to look at the wheels and was told the area was "not public" so we when to north vancouver instead

How was the service at North Shore?

monkeywrench
12-01-2009, 10:17 AM
newtype treats customers like shit. heck, i test drove the ralliart and i was back at the dealership in 3 right turns.

my friend had a horrible experience purchasing a hatchback gts lancer too. apparently he was charged for paper work fees, and taxes were not included in the final pricing of the car. i remember he said the salesman was that lady (younger one)

Leopold Stotch
12-01-2009, 10:36 AM
+1

-1 for Newtype. The people at Vancouver Mitsubishi were really nice, greeted nicely at the door, salesperson went through lots of stuff with us and even brought us coffee but wouldn't budge on negotiations much.

i enjoyed Vancouver Mitsubishi as well

The reason i didn't like New Type was because we came on sunday at around noon, and they wouldn't let us test drive any cars, but expected us to buy one.

so we went over to Vancouver Mitsubishi and they let us take two cars to test drive, didn't sit in the car, and basically gave me a green card to fuck off for a few minutes, i really liked that

and in the end my sister got the exact options she wanted albeit she wanted an EVO X, and we got 2k off the price. with 0% financing.

falcon
12-01-2009, 10:51 AM
hmm, i've had trouble with vancouver mitsubishi service department too...

how? you own a 300ZX and have a learners.

thumper
12-01-2009, 11:47 AM
and in the end my sister got the exact options she wanted albeit she wanted an EVO X, and we got 2k off the price. with 0% financing.

wow... a girl who drives an evo :drool

jmanhas
12-01-2009, 12:35 PM
mazda ftw

vexor
12-01-2009, 01:48 PM
You guys say Newtype is the worst but I think Pacific Mitsu in Maple Ridge was the worst (before they got shut down) Anytime I wanted to get parts from them they always asked for a VIN number.... Me: "I just want a bolt" Them: "what's the Vin number"... like wtf?

Qmx323
12-01-2009, 01:57 PM
^ maybe they needed to know the exact model

how? you own a 300ZX and have a learners.

he got his N now and drives an Astra

Mugen EvOlutioN
12-01-2009, 01:58 PM
mazda ftw

ok

godwin
12-01-2009, 02:36 PM
Mitsubishi is not that popular because it is a young brand in Canada. Traditionally it had been sold as rebadged Dodge. Stand alone Mitsubishi has only been here since the 00+. Not to mention Mitsubishi's heavy duty truck business is not here too.

Honestly Mitsubishi due to its financial disaster / fraud in Japan, its portfolio has stagnated and is more or less a one trick pony ala Lancer. Have you look at the Galant? what a overpriced POS! In all honesty, North American taste until recently has been in bigger/ quieter cars.. WRC road cars are not for everyone.

Oh yeah.. don't forget Jackie Chan.

I think for more or less 1 model (well Outlander too).. it is doing decently well.

hk20000
12-01-2009, 02:39 PM
Mitsubishi is not that popular because it is a young brand in Canada. Traditionally it had been sold as rebadged Dodge. Stand alone Mitsubishi has only been here since the 00+. Not to mention Mitsubishi's heavy duty truck business is not here too.

Honestly Mitsubishi due to its financial disaster / fraud in Japan, its portfolio has stagnated and is more or less a one trick pony ala Lancer. Have you look at the Galant? what a overpriced POS! In all honesty, North American taste until recently has been in bigger/ quieter cars.. WRC road cars are not for everyone.

Oh yeah.. don't forget Jackie Chan.

I think for more or less 1 model (well Outlander too).. it is doing decently well.
It is actually a one trick brand because Outlander and Lancer and EVO... :haha:

When are we going to get some Colt love?

shenmecar
12-01-2009, 02:41 PM
It is actually a one trick brand because Outlander and Lancer and EVO... :haha:

When are we going to get some Colt love?

We'll never get the Colt, we'll be getting the Miev before the Colt if anything.

godwin
12-01-2009, 02:43 PM
All 3 models are based off the same platform... and not to mention their powertrain sharing with Hyundai.. I think among all the Japanese makes, they are probably the bottom of the barrel currently (yes the mighty has fallen) in terms R&D and uniqueness.

I don't think they imagined themselves having to collaborate with Hyundai to survive 15 years ago.

It is actually a one trick brand because Outlander and Lancer and EVO... :haha:

FatalCloud
12-01-2009, 02:45 PM
i enjoyed Vancouver Mitsubishi as well

The reason i didn't like New Type was because we came on sunday at around noon, and they wouldn't let us test drive any cars, but expected us to buy one.

so we went over to Vancouver Mitsubishi and they let us take two cars to test drive, didn't sit in the car, and basically gave me a green card to fuck off for a few minutes, i really liked that

and in the end my sister got the exact options she wanted albeit she wanted an EVO X, and we got 2k off the price. with 0% financing.

does your sister have the 'N' sticker on the trunk? white MR?

vexor
12-01-2009, 03:29 PM
^ maybe they needed to know the exact model



no, they wouldn't even try to do a part search without a VIN, no matter what car or how common the part is you must have a VIN. I was also talking to the owner of Evolution Auto in MR (Mitsu tuning specialists) and even he says that the service at Pacific Mitsubishi was the worst he's ever seen at any dealership

wasabisashimi
12-01-2009, 03:43 PM
what about their industry's leading factory warranty

hk20000
12-01-2009, 03:59 PM
no, they wouldn't even try to do a part search without a VIN, no matter what car or how common the part is you must have a VIN. I was also talking to the owner of Evolution Auto in MR (Mitsu tuning specialists) and even he says that the service at Pacific Mitsubishi was the worst he's ever seen at any dealership

LOL that's why I download my own Mitsubishi ASA and throw them with part numbers instead.

Too bad the downloaded ASA doesn't cover new new new cars like 2010 models. Only up to 2008.

godwin
12-01-2009, 04:01 PM
What so "industry leading" about them?

AFAIK most places offer 5years 100k km powertrain and a minimum of 4 years warranty vs Mitsu's 3 years...

Again boy racers market share is very small. Even if you have factory par warranty, you still can't see cars people don't want.

what about their industry's leading factory warranty

vexor
12-01-2009, 04:27 PM
LOL that's why I download my own Mitsubishi ASA and throw them with part numbers instead.

Too bad the downloaded ASA doesn't cover new new new cars like 2010 models. Only up to 2008.

nice, got a link to where i can dl one too?

lancergts1986
12-01-2009, 05:24 PM
ya i agree with you guys on the shitty service part, when i was buying my lancer two sales guy were involved, steven and richard, richard was cool, explained about the car and the financing in details, and the steven guy just kept on saying how low they are on stock, and kept on telling me to pay a deposite right away otherwise somebody else will buy it.and i told him to fuckoff and went to talk to richard. But my 08 gts is holding up pretty good, had it for almost 3 years now never had a problem.

mos_skeeto
12-01-2009, 11:16 PM
the kingsway/imperial dealership is now a mitsu dealer. i wonder if that is an improvement.

with the reliability thing, my lancer is about 2-3 years old. so far so good however the real test is 4+ years.

FatalCloud
12-01-2009, 11:35 PM
4 recalls in just a year of owning a mitsubishi.... reliable?....hm.

Lomac
12-02-2009, 12:39 AM
Went to Wolfe Mitsubishi in Langley a couple years back with my brother when he was looking for a new car. Tested the Lancer. The salesman was nice, but my god the car was horrid. I couldn't get over the fact that my old MK2 GTI had softer plastics on the dash and various trim bits than the new Mitsu. People bitch about American cars having horrid plasticy interiors... well, this thing made a freaking Cavalier's dash look like a pillow.

Mugen EvOlutioN
12-02-2009, 05:31 PM
4 recalls in just a year of owning a mitsubishi.... reliable?....hm.

:eek: what year, what were the problems

Jackygor
12-02-2009, 06:42 PM
:eek: what year, what were the problems

08 lancer/evolution X GSR and MR

1. hood latch
2. Fuel pump relay
3. Fuel line
4. AWC reflash (fucks when the diff fuild is below a certain tempt.)

There are many more TSB, but those were the 4 official recalls. I have yet to do 2 of them...w00t.

hk20000
12-02-2009, 07:28 PM
watch that hood fly open on ya.

Mitsu is making their cars to a price now....Nothing like my proper 90s JDM import that has soft plastic EVERYWHERE and full auto climate control with LCD, factory navi (mine got ripped out, but it's standard for the VR4 on the catalog)homelink and shit, putting German cars to shame.

Evolutionian
12-03-2009, 04:17 PM
hmmm too bad you guys never mentioned Wolfe Langley Mitsu, i work there, in fact im at work lol dont know if its ok to say this.

-__________- ||

godwin
12-03-2009, 04:20 PM
Remember your car is one of the first model year.. it is not uncommon to have issues especially with ECU programming due to Vancouver weather.

The key is how the company and the dealers deal with it.

You want a car that doesn't have as many TSB, wait a few years.

08 lancer/evolution X GSR and MR

1. hood latch
2. Fuel pump relay
3. Fuel line
4. AWC reflash (fucks when the diff fuild is below a certain tempt.)

There are many more TSB, but those were the 4 official recalls. I have yet to do 2 of them...w00t.

wasabisashimi
12-03-2009, 04:39 PM
isn't plastic interior very common for economy class cars? such as lancer.. civic, cavalier?

If poeple are expecting softer material, may i suggest lexus. Everything is soft in a lexus

Jackygor
12-03-2009, 05:24 PM
Remember your car is one of the first model year.. it is not uncommon to have issues especially with ECU programming due to Vancouver weather.

The key is how the company and the dealers deal with it.

You want a car that doesn't have as many TSB, wait a few years.

Its good you pointed this out, because not a lot of people are aware that there are many rough patches to hammer out on a first year model car. Especially one that is on a completely new platform from the chassis, engine, and the drivestrain.

ivanz
12-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Which dealer is the best for repairs/oil change in Vancouver? How much do they charge for oil changes?

Gh0stRider
12-03-2009, 09:02 PM
Which dealer is the best for repairs/oil change in Vancouver? How much do they charge for oil changes?

call around and ask how much they charge. It should be a standard rate between all the dealerships.