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asahai69
12-01-2009, 07:14 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-floydpac120109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
gonna be a dope fight. hoping pac man destroys pretty boy floyd
hal0g0dv2
12-01-2009, 07:25 PM
wow this is going to be hugE
rickross888
12-01-2009, 07:30 PM
about time!
mayweather over pacquiao by decision
J-Kilo
12-01-2009, 09:09 PM
this is gonna be epic!
lacubrious1
12-04-2009, 10:25 AM
can't wait for this. I hope Vegas will host this fight. Probably wouldn't go down to watch the actual fight but would love to go down and enjoy the atmosphere, while watching it on a big screen.
JSALES
12-04-2009, 06:19 PM
can't wait!
Hondaracer
12-09-2009, 11:20 AM
This fight is arguabely bigger than anything UFC has done period
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hotjoint
12-10-2009, 10:40 AM
This fight is arguabely bigger than anything UFC has done period
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:werd: now we just need gsp vs silva here in june and we'll be good. I know that wont happen but here's to wishful thinking :haha:
He hasn't officially signed the papers yet cause Mayweather is stalling for stupid reasons ... Heard that Dallas is off the table and so is the Staple Centre so it looks to be Vegas again since both like it there ...
Let's just hope the judges aren't like the ones that was at the Williams-Martinez fight last saturday cause that is the very example of why boxing will remain a joke to a lot of people
Mugen EvOlutioN
12-10-2009, 05:03 PM
floyd mayweather is $$$$$:thumbsup:
I guess he can't duck this fight ... I still want to see him fight Paul Williams ... but he's too much of a bitch and will only fight people smaller and people he thinks he can win against (he so miscalculated this match) ... i guess 2 people types of people are going to be watching this, Pac fans and people who wants to see him get F$%Ked up ...
SkinnyPupp
12-22-2009, 05:04 PM
Fight may be in jeopardy, as Pacquiao is refusing to do Olympic style drug testing (which requires multiple samples to rule out things like HGH which can't be detected by a single test)
hotjoint
12-23-2009, 06:30 AM
^ damn. I'm gonna be in the philipines mar 8 - 30. If the fight is on they're gonna hate me because I'll be the only one cheering for mayweather :lol
Jsunu
12-23-2009, 09:05 AM
Fight may be in jeopardy, as Pacquiao is refusing to do Olympic style drug testing (which requires multiple samples to rule out things like HGH which can't be detected by a single test)
Shit that SUCKS, makes you wonder why he is refusing it in the first place.
411ken
12-23-2009, 11:19 AM
^ damn. I'm gonna be in the philipines mar 8 - 30. If the fight is on they're gonna hate me because I'll be the only one cheering for mayweather :lol
Nah, don't worry about it....they are not going to hate you by wearing a Mayweather shirt.. they will just kill you lol..
I do hope the fight happens though.. just so Pacquiao can shut Mayweather up and his fans ;) ahha
411ken
12-23-2009, 11:22 AM
Shit that SUCKS, makes you wonder why he is refusing it in the first place.
My POV on this is...have they done these types of testing before? i.e. in his previous fights, or any other big fights in the past? I don't recall any off the top of my head.
I bet Mayweather requested this and pissed Pacman's camp then said NO (whether they are hiding something or not).
I mean, if they had never done it before, why do it now?
If they have done it before then ignore me
Jsunu
12-23-2009, 12:01 PM
My POV on this is...have they done these types of testing before? i.e. in his previous fights, or any other big fights in the past? I don't recall any off the top of my head.
I bet Mayweather requested this and pissed Pacman's camp then said NO (whether they are hiding something or not).
I mean, if they had never done it before, why do it now?
If they have done it before then ignore me
well in my POV Mayweather did it to prevent fighting with pacman to eliminate the possibility of losing.
Been reading up on the articles tho and it states that this all speculation at this point and pacman may still say yes to the testing. Basically Mayweather is starting shit.
JSALES
12-23-2009, 02:23 PM
i think pacman is gonna say yes either way to the testing, i don't think he'd back down from a fight with mayweather
It's superstition, I can see why Pac does not want to draw blood so close to the fight date ... some cultures have a thing about blood and even within those cultures there are radical thinking on these matters, especially in the rural areas where he grew up in ...
I'm fine with testing them right after the fight cause it's going to be there before or after the fight ... maybe cause once Floyd gets beat, and the tests turn out negative, its another blow to his big ass ego ...
This is just another plow cause his first plow to try to get Pac to refuse was thrown in his face when Pac agreed to fight him so fast
411ken
12-24-2009, 01:34 PM
So Pacman and the guys gave it until Thursday to drop this drug test crap or the fight doesn't happen..
Pacman should counter and say that he will take 60% purse and Mayweather takes 40% LOL. See what Mayweather say.
I can't even imagine how much these 2 will get paid! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MR_BIGGS
12-24-2009, 01:39 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-floydpac120109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
gonna be a dope fight. hoping pac man destroys pretty boy floyd
Hopefully a dopefree fight...
I hope Pac wins this one. There is way too much money going into this event for it not to happen. It will happen, you can put an * beside it, I don't really care. Fuck Olympic testing, this ain't the Olympics. Regular testing is fine.
Manic!
12-24-2009, 02:08 PM
Fights dead.:(
http://www.freep.com/article/20091224/SPORTS18/91224030/1066/Promoter-Mayweather-Pacquiao-fight-dead
LAS VEGAS — Promoter Bob Arum declared the megafight between Manny Pacquiao and Grand Rapids native Floyd Mayweather Jr. dead today, though efforts continued to find a compromise to a dispute over blood testing.
“It’s over,” Arum said. “O-V-E-R.”
Arum had set a Thursday deadline for an agreement on testing, the only issue not resolved for the planned March 13 fight. But with the Mayweather camp still insisting on using the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency to conduct the tests, Arum said there wasn’t much left to discuss.
“They’re viewed by the Pacquiao side as being partisan,” Arum said, referring to USADA. “He doesn’t want to use them. I don’t want to use them. They’re so inflexible, they can’t be used.”
Despite Arum’s statements, there were some talks through intermediaries to try to salvage the bout. Neither side, though, appeared to be backing off its position on the biggest dispute: Who will do the testing?
Arum said he planned to move forward by having Pacquiao fight March 13 against Paul Malignaggi, a flashy but light-hitting 140-pounder. He said there was still a chance Pacquiao and Mayweather could meet later in the year.
“As far as I’m concerned, the fight is over,” Arum said. “Can it be revisited in the fall? We’ll see.”
Mayweather’s representatives could not be immediately reached for comment, but Arum said an effort today by HBO Sports chief Ross Greenburg to reach a compromise had failed. There still were other talks going on between the two sides, but the odds of the fight happening were dimming with each day.
At the core of the dispute is the insistence of the Mayweather camp of using Olympic-style drug testing for the fight, even though neither fighters ever has been linked to performance-enhancing substances. Under Nevada regulations, boxers generally only are tested just before the fight and in the dressing room afterward, and only urine is given.
Mayweather’s camp wants blood tests that can find things urine tests can’t, such as use of human growth hormone, and they want them done by USADA from the time the fight is signed until the fight is held. Pacquiao’s side has agreed to both urine and blood testing but doesn’t want testing immediately before the fight because Pacquiao believes giving blood so soon before a fight will weaken him.
A possible resolution that had been discussed would allow USADA to do limited testing. That likely would not be accepted by USADA because it wants to set an example that all athletes should be subject to random and unannounced testing at any time.
The fight was expected to be the richest ever, with both fighters earning $30 million to $40 million, depending on television sales.
JSALES
12-24-2009, 02:30 PM
^ fuck!
MR_BIGGS
12-24-2009, 02:40 PM
FUCK indeed.! BS
neggo
12-24-2009, 03:35 PM
Prime example of why the popularity of boxing is dwindling.
Fights that are supposed to happen never do.
SkinnyPupp
12-24-2009, 06:29 PM
LOL first the issue was that Manny was "superstitious" about giving blood and wasn't comfortable doing so before a fight. Now it's because they don't trust the agency :lol
Why not just admit that he already knows he'll test positive
This guy just screwed a lot of people out of a lot of money, and millions of people get screwed out of watching one of the biggest events in recent history.
Steroids FTL
asahai69
12-25-2009, 01:56 AM
if this fight dosent happen then itll be another knife in the back that is boxing. the sport is slowly killing itself with all this bullshit.
LOL first the issue was that Manny was "superstitious" about giving blood and wasn't comfortable doing so before a fight. Now it's because they don't trust the agency :lol
Why not just admit that he already knows he'll test positive
This guy just screwed a lot of people out of a lot of money, and millions of people get screwed out of watching one of the biggest events in recent history.
Steroids FTL
First off, there is no basis on allegations by Mayweather Sr. ... his "GUT" feeling tells him that he's using cause no one is that good going up through weight classes ... oh wait ... Mayweather Jr. did the exact same thing, going from 10? to his current weight class ...
Second off, Pac said it himself that he didn't like the feeling of drawing blood too close to the fight date during his first fight against Morales ... Mayweather knows this, so he's insisting to use USADA who's methods are known to be very abrasive to athletes, drawing blood even as far as the day off the fight ... this was most likely Mayweather's 2nd plow (1st plow being the asking for a fight date so close to elections back home in Phil where Pac is trying to go for a senate seat, that's why they were fast to the table, cause they want to play all those mind games and shit)
Pac and Arum already said that they would agree to using the agency that the other Pro Sports use, MLB, NBA and whatnot ... USADA is more olympic testing, which to me is for amateur sports ... so why not agree to testing from an agency that is good enough for other PROs ... what makes them different? USADA's methods would want blood the day off or close to, which Mayweather knows Pac does not like and so Mayweather can go and say how he didn't duck this time cause Pac's camp would have been the one that said no ... but then at the same time, why not use the other agency which would do the same job ...
Pac has been tested many times before and all came up negative ... I don't see how he got "BUSTED" ... the person who is middle manning this with Arum and Mayweather was also the same guy who didn't even want Mosley (who was a juicer) to be tested this way in a previous fight where Golden Boy was involved ...
And there is Oscar ... still trying to assert his personal vendetta against Manny cause of the whole clusterfuck from before ... This guy really needs to get the hell out already cause its clear that he's out to get Pac no matter how obviously contradicting his statements are from day to day ... first it was "Manny is a great fighter", then after the fight with him "Oh Manny's punches didn't hurt me at all" (even though his face was swelled up like a balloon) ... and now "I got punched by some boxer's who were juicing before and I can definitely tell you that Manny's punches feel exactly the same" ... REALLY ...
I believe the Nevada State Athletic Commission is probably going to step in and can conduct the tests, both blood and urine and Pac will most likely agree to this ... the question is will Mayweather agree to it ... is it not fair enough? He's getting the testing done ... we forget that Pac is the champ here and Mayweather is the challenger ... how many more fights does Pac need to do to get the respect ...
Mayweather has more of a history of ducking fighters than Pac has with steriods ... I'd say the former statement is more in tune to where this is going than the later ...
SkinnyPupp
12-25-2009, 04:08 AM
There is only one reason to turn down a blood test day of the fight: You know you will fail it.
Manny will fail his blood test, and Mayweather knows this. Chances are, if Mayweather was caught off guard, he would fail too. But all professional athletes know how to cycle their drug usage to get around drug tests (and this would be how Pac passed all his prior tests). Mayweather probably cycled his so he would pass and Manny would fail, screwing him over for the first planned date.
The fight will still take place, but Mayweather has already landed the first blow. He basically 'outed' his opponent as someone who would fail a strict drug test. If anything, the fight will be even bigger than before, and should easily be the highest selling PPV in the history of the world :)
Manny said there's no problem with taking a blood test after the fight just not before the fight. They know Manny doesn't want to take blood samples close to his fight. It's all Mayweather camp playing mind games. He just want a way out to not fight Manny without the public knowing it. We all know Mayweather is scared to fight the best out there just like with Mosley.
SkinnyPupp
12-25-2009, 06:55 AM
Considering that Mayweather will earn many many millions of dollars, and become one of the most famous athletes in the world, I don't see why he would not want this fight to take place.
The fight will take place ... there is no doubt about it ... considering how the Lennox-Tyson fight was one of those "It will never happen" fights and it did (mind you a boring one) ... this can be done ...
I don't agree with you about the doping for both fighters but I agree that Mayweather did land the first punch with this, it was calculated and premeditated as the first talk of doping and Pac were thrown out a while ago by his dad ... Mayweather clearly had this intention from the start considering it was like a record how fast Mayweather agreed to the contract offer, which he is known to love to drag negotiations a while ...
It's his record that's at stake. With Mosley he will earn many millions as well. So...
JSALES
12-25-2009, 04:35 PM
i think Mayweather knows he's gonna lose that's why he's pulling all this shit to get out of it, i still want the fight to happen though
It's his record that's at stake. With Mosley he will earn many millions as well. So...
Mosley needs to beat Berto first in January ... plus Mayweather has been ducking Mosley for almost a decade now ...
Out of all of them, I'd give the biggest props to the first one to challenge Paul Williams to a fight ... its clear that he's not unbeatable from watching the fight against Sergio Martinez last month
SkinnyPupp
12-26-2009, 09:24 PM
Here's the latest
Dan Rafael of ESPN reported today that Golden Boy Promotions have come off its hardline stance regarding drug testing by Manny Pacquiao.
They are okay to have someone other than the U.S. Anti-Doping Association handle the testing, but are insistent that there would be regular and random blood and urine testing and it Pacquiao would get no advanced warning of when he would be tested.
The two sides are attempting to agree to a cut-off date for the final test. Pacquiao's side agreed to take tests on specific dates, the last being 30 days before the fight. Bob Arum said Pacquiao's side was willing negotiate on that 30 day stance but didn't want the USADA doing the testing because they were inflexible because they would not come on board unless they had the right to test at random, any time they chose.
But Arum today changed his stance again, saying they would not even agree to the previous terms unless Nevada asked for it. Nevada has generally only tested the day of the fight, although for big fights, such as the main matches on some UFC PPV events, they have done one unannounced urine test.
Nevada has never asked fighters to submit to blood tests, which in theory would be able to detect some drugs urine could not. He said they would do what the Nevada commission wants, but nothing more.
Keith Kizer of the Nevada commission noted Nevada has never tested blood and it would be unlikely that something would change before the fight where they would ask to do so. He said one side would have to ask the commission, they'd have to do a special meeting and that right now nobody has formally asked and no meeting is scheduled.
Golden Boy did agree to Pacquiao's unprecendented demand that if Mayweather fails to make 147 pounds, he would be fined $10 millon. Arum's side can't be thrilled because they put out Paulie Malignaggi as a sub for Pacquiao to fight on 3/13 if this fight falls apart, and then the first thing Malignaggi did, was say that he thougth Pacquiao was using performance enhancing drugs.
LOL ... Paulie was the only other guy who was backing up Mayweather Sr. allegations of doping ... but I heard that Paulie is starting to have a different stance now that his name is being mentioned and I heard he is pretty Pro-Pac right now cause if a fight does happen with him, he's gonna get a gigantic pay day ... I heard HBO is probably going to veto the Pac-Paulie fight cause Paulie is not a big enough draw ... but let's hope that all this BS is done with and the mega fight is still on ...
SkinnyPupp
12-27-2009, 12:10 AM
Like I said, I am 100% positive the fight will take place. This is just building hype, and fucking over an opponent. When people like me are interested in a boxing match, they are doing something right, that's for sure!
411ken
12-27-2009, 07:14 PM
Like I said, I am 100% positive the fight will take place. This is just building hype, and fucking over an opponent. When people like me are interested in a boxing match, they are doing something right, that's for sure!
Taken from MMA Thread Nothing would ever make me want to watch boxing again. Every time I hear of a "big" fight, I check it out and it is the most fucking boring shit I could possibly imagine. Even with awesome hype, the shows never deliver.
LOL..
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Now you are interested in watching it ? :haha::haha:
SkinnyPupp
12-27-2009, 07:22 PM
Yeah! You can thank Mayweather for that!
Don't get me wrong, the fight itself will still be boring as fuck. But I am still going to watch it.
411ken
12-27-2009, 07:52 PM
Yeah! You can thank Mayweather for that!
Don't get me wrong, the fight itself will still be boring as fuck. But I am still going to watch it.
What did Mayweather actually do that made you interested in it? I could have missed it but has it been confirmed that it was HIM and his camp that requested this bloodtest or is it all speculation at this point?
And of course.. I love how you make a comment that NOTHING (This will include Mayweather) will make you watch boxing AGAIN but now there is LOL
I just find that hilariousssss!! :)
Edit: Anywaysssssssssss is Thursday still the Deadline for this Bloodtest crap? lol
JSALES
01-01-2010, 01:58 AM
Pacquiao sues Mayweather for defamation
LAS VEGAS, Nevada (AFP) – Manny Pacquiao is fighting mad, and taking on Floyd Mayweather jnr in court even as a potential blockbuster bout between the two is on the ropes.
Filipino hero Pacquiao filed a lawsuit in federal court in Las Vegas on Wednesday alleging that Mayweather and others defamed him by falsely saying Pacquiao used performance-enhancing drugs.
"Calling a professional athlete a cheater is the most serious charge one can make," the lawsuit says, "and in today's world, accusing an athlete of using performance-enhancing drugs - however baseless and lacking in evidence - is toxic."
Pacquiao has been angered by the Mayweather camp's insistence on doping control blood tests in the buildup to their welterweight showdown - a demand that has the March 13 fight in doubt.
Mayweather has said the blood tests, which could detect substances not found by urine tests, are vital to ensure a fair fight, although blood tests are not routinely used in boxing.
Pacquiao - who says he fears having blood drawn less than 30 days before the fight would 'weaken' him - has taken exception to the demand and to comments made by the Mayweather camp in media interviews.
His lawsuit asks for damages in excess of 75,000 dollars and names Mayweather, his father, Floyd snr, and uncle Roger Mayweather as defendants. Oscar De La Hoya and Richard Schaefer, who operate Golden Boy Promotions and are promoting Mayweather, are also named as having "stated publicly that Pacquiao has used and is using performance-enhancing drugs, including steroids."
The lawsuit cites several interviews given by the Mayweather camp, including the unbeaten US boxer's comments in a radio interview in October about Pacquiao's physical development, when he said: "cause we know the Philippines got the best enhancing drugs."
Also quoted in the suit were Mayweather's remarks published in the british newspaper The Guardian, in which Mayweather said he had "great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night."
"The truth did not stop Mayweather and the others," the suit alleges. "That is because they are motivated by ill will, spite, malice, revenge and envy."
Pacquiao, who has supplanted Mayweather in the estimation of many as boxing's best pound-for-pound fighter, has earned titles in seven weight classes.
Their fight could bring each as much as 40 million dollars, and it had appeared to be virtually set after squabbles were settled over issues including the division of the purse and the type of gloves to be used.
The dope test procedures, however, have proved a sticking point.
The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum is preparing to open negotiations with World Boxing Association super welterweight champion Yuri Foreman as talks with Mayweather falter.
Arum, contacted by the newspaper while on vacation in Mexico, sounded pessimistic that Pacquaio-Mayweather would happen on March 13.
"This is only my opinion, but I don't see the fight happening now," he told the Times. "Positions are hardening ... Manny's fit to be tied. He's very angry."
Arum acknowledged there could still be a breakthrough, but said: "It might be best to visit this fight later in 2010."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091231/sp_afp/boxusaphiwelterpacquiaomayweather
SkinnyPupp
01-01-2010, 05:20 AM
What did Mayweather actually do that made you interested in it? I could have missed it but has it been confirmed that it was HIM and his camp that requested this bloodtest or is it all speculation at this point?
And of course.. I love how you make a comment that NOTHING (This will include Mayweather) will make you watch boxing AGAIN but now there is LOL
I just find that hilariousssss!! :)
Edit: Anywaysssssssssss is Thursday still the Deadline for this Bloodtest crap? lol
First, it's not so much what Mayweather did, but what everyone is doing. From the promoters, to Mayweather, to Pacquiao. And it's fun because it's drama. Boxing without drama is just boxing, and boxing sucks.
That lawsuit is fucking hilarious too.. Filing a lawsuit because they asked him to take a blood test? :lol The more these guys do, the more they make it look like they have something to hide.
This is so funny, I actually don't give a shit about the match itself. And I think it's only going to get crazier by the day :lol
I'm glad you found my post amusing. Apparently this is the first time you've come across a hyperbolic statement made on the internet. Congratulations for that!
411ken
01-01-2010, 03:56 PM
First, it's not so much what Mayweather did, but what everyone is doing. From the promoters, to Mayweather, to Pacquiao. And it's fun because it's drama. Boxing without drama is just boxing, and boxing sucks.
That lawsuit is fucking hilarious too.. Filing a lawsuit because they asked him to take a blood test? :lol The more these guys do, the more they make it look like they have something to hide.
This is so funny, I actually don't give a shit about the match itself. And I think it's only going to get crazier by the day :lol
I'm glad you found my post amusing. Apparently this is the first time you've come across a hyperbolic statement made on the internet. Congratulations for that!
LOL.. shit you are one funny kid.
SkinnyPupp
01-09-2010, 09:39 PM
The latest is that in negotiating with Mayweather's people about the drug testing, Pac's people asked if it would be possible to keep the test results private in the case of failure, "for the good of boxing."
The latest is that in negotiating with Mayweather's people about the drug testing, Pac's people asked if it would be possible to keep the test results private in the case of failure, "for the good of boxing."
LOL, I heard that as well, even though the person saying they heard this from a reliable source is a pretty neutral guy, begs to wonder who this source is (I'm sure you can consider everyone on the Mayweather camp as trustworthy as the national enquirer is to news) ... so its either all BS or someone in Pac's camp is a total retard ...
I think 14 days and right after the fight is a good enough deal but for some reason we'll be seeing Clottey instead (who I thought won the fight when he fought Cotto) ... so its an interesting fight but not a mega fight ...
I just want to see who Mayweather handpicks to win against this time ...
I guess this thread will be revisited for September when the actual fight might happen ...
kg007
01-10-2010, 08:26 PM
Omg Finally "Money" CockyBoy Gayfeather will get floored and never get up and then March 14th my Legal in the states 21st will feel that much better! Would maybe have the slightest respect if A) He Stfu more then 5 mins. a day B) Not Throw Money all over the floor everywhere he goes while over a Billion people live below the Poverty line. 3) Be an exciting fighter and not a defensive (will give him that he mastered it) pussy style point accumulating game plan.
StealthFighter
01-10-2010, 09:33 PM
fight's dead for now. pacquiao's promoters booked a fight on march 13 against Joshua Clottey.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-pacquiaoclottey011010&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
411ken
01-11-2010, 10:21 AM
Fuck Mayweather. He just doesn't want a real challenge that could jeopardize his undefeated record... he's afraid to fight mosley and now he's accusing pacman of cheating by doing this shit....
SkinnyPupp
01-11-2010, 10:35 AM
He's not accusing anyone of anything. He just wants drug testing. By not agreeing to it, Pacman is basically admitting that he is a cheater. Don't blame Mayweather for that! :lol
He's not accusing anyone of anything. He just wants drug testing. By not agreeing to it, Pacman is basically admitting that he is a cheater. Don't blame Mayweather for that! :lol
Come on, its a little more clearer than how you say it ... Mayweather IS accusing him of using drugs by saying how the Philippines has the best performance enhancing drugs, Sr talks about how its not humanly possible for anyone to go up the classes like that without using them and even Golden Boy himself says how when Pac hit him, it feels EXACTLY like how a boxer who juices punches ... I don't think it gets any more specific to who he's accusing than that ...
Pac didn't not agree to testing, he didn't agree to the crazy random testing that 1 agency does, it does make him look a bit shady for not agreeing right away but he did agree to testing, like I said before, 14 days is good enough and I don't know why they didn't agree on 14 days (read that it might have been tabled after the mediation so it was never offered till after) and what I don't get is why Mayweather does not agree to right after the fight which is essentially the same as what he is demanding which is the day off the fight (of course the request is masked thru the word RANDOM but there are reports that USADA and GBP have an "understanding" so you know its going to be taken during fight night) ...
I'm not even going to get into the war Mayweather has with Arum with their history and also Golden Boy and his history with Pac ... way too much BS in everything ... and if you include their histories and tendencies during negotiations and fights, you come out of this as Mayweather ducked another fighter and Pac, well, he's just dumb for falling into all this and i guess for some people a bit shady now (thank baseball for making athletes guilty before any proof can be shown) ...
411ken
01-11-2010, 12:26 PM
He's not accusing anyone of anything. He just wants drug testing. By not agreeing to it, Pacman is basically admitting that he is a cheater. Don't blame Mayweather for that! :lol
Yea, him saying "Philippines has the best enhancing drugs" or whatever as Jet said isn't enough to say about someone you are about to fight is from. He's never asked for a drug testing like this to his previous opponents so why now??
..I'd Fail you for your comment but I just realized that you removed yours LOL
Does it hurt you that bad that someone fails your comment? it's the Internet buddy, it will be OK.. LOL HAHAHAHA hilarious... "Mom.. someone failed me on Revscene, imma go to my room now"
Also, PLEASE don't Fail my post!! It will ruin my week!!!! pleaseeee
Ilagon
01-11-2010, 12:32 PM
During the initial phase of the now aborted Mann Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather fight, Bob Arum initially wanted the fight to be held at the new Dallas Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas. Golden Boy’s second chief Richard Scahefer scoffed the idea, saying Mayweather does not like because it is an outdoor stadium.
But with the recent development of things, some little details broke the surface may probably be the biggest reason why Mayweather never wanted the Dallas Cowboys Stadium to host the fight – he was using a widely-banned illegal substance. The irony is that such drug is legal in, coincidentally, the state of Nevada.
In an article written by Frank Gonzales in April 21, 2002, it is revealed that Floyd Mayweather has been using a painkiller called Xylocaine to treat the pain caused by his brittle hands, which have been injured numerous times in the past.
However, Xylocaine is proven to enhance a boxer’s performance.
It effectively numbs the boxer’s hands, making it less susceptible to pain caused by punching constantly. With the pain efficiently blocked out, Xylocaine, in effect, enables the boxer to throw more powerful shots. If that is the case, then Mayweather may not have been fighting on a leveled playing field in some of his fights.
And to call Pacquiao a steroids user when in fact he has a history of using a widely-banned drug not only tarnishes his reputation as a boxer, but also brings his legacy to a pool of mud. Soaked and dirtied, there is no way Mayweather can clean this one.
The karmic boomerang does hurt.
http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/ARTICLE/2212/2010-01-09.html
Could this be why Mayweather is so adamant on having the fight in Vegas?
GO TEAM PACQUIAO!
SkinnyPupp
01-11-2010, 08:33 PM
http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/ARTICLE/2212/2010-01-09.html
Could this be why Mayweather is so adamant on having the fight in Vegas?
GO TEAM PACQUIAO!
:lol nice try there, Arum
Jsunu
01-12-2010, 08:51 AM
He's not accusing anyone of anything. He just wants drug testing. By not agreeing to it, Pacman is basically admitting that he is a cheater. Don't blame Mayweather for that! :lol
I fail to see how this is the case considering that Pacman has never been caught with using performance enhancing drugs. Saying he is guilty because his refusing testing is a premature judgment.
Note: i am not saying whether or not he is ACTUALLY using drugs, I just don't make assumptions based on a refusal for testing.
I fail to see how this is the case considering that Pacman has never been caught with using performance enhancing drugs. Saying he is guilty because his refusing testing is a premature judgment.
Note: i am not saying whether or not he is ACTUALLY using drugs, I just don't make assumptions based on a refusal for testing.
In sports thats how it works, like I said before, you can thank baseball for the whole guilty until you are proven innocent ... they ruined athlete's reputations by lying about being juiced so now when someone even remotely looks guilty, public opinion will sway towards him being guilty ...
SkinnyPupp
01-12-2010, 10:16 PM
I fail to see how this is the case considering that Pacman has never been caught with using performance enhancing drugs. Saying he is guilty because his refusing testing is a premature judgment.
Note: i am not saying whether or not he is ACTUALLY using drugs, I just don't make assumptions based on a refusal for testing.
He hasn't been caught because they only do drug testing to say they do drug testing. As soon as someone asks for real drug testing, he backs out. Or asks for any failures not to be made public. To me, that is an admission that you know you're going to fail. Because if you don't take drugs, there is literally no reason not to agree to proper testing.
Nismo200SX
01-28-2010, 09:25 PM
YouTube- Floyd Mayweather Goes CRAZY On The Radio!!! (Part 1)
pacman did agree to drug testing. just not 14days before the fight. What kinda scared fighter accuses another fighter of using drugs? oh yeah a scared fighter. After he saw the beating pacquiao gave to cotto, there's no way mayweather would want to fight him. Mayweather won't even fight cotto.
When fighters get challenged face to face they know they are best they dont back down and make excuses. Just watch the clip of Mosley challenging Mayweather to his face after the marquez fight. If Mayweather know hes the best and he not scared then he would have simply said " Lets fight " and accepted the challenge but did he? no he came up with excuses and had no words. Mosley is one of the top welterweights right now. One of mayweather's excuses is why didn't mosley fight me years ago. Mosley was on a losing streak its that simple. Nobody wants to fight nobody when they are on a losing streak. But guess who does like fighting fighters that are on losing streaks Mayweather does.
Its easy to point the finger at the guy that doesnt want to take a blood test right before a fight. Thats the reason why the Mayweather camp started that whole dog and pony show so that it make's Pacquiao look bad and so Mayweather doesn't look like the one ducking pacquiao when in reality he's afraid of getting his first loss to Pacquiao and his 'so called' legacy goin down the drain because Pacquiao has already outshined mayweather by winning 7 titles in 7 different weight classes.
SkinnyPupp
01-28-2010, 09:38 PM
What kind of fighter refuses to take a drug test outside 30 days (not 14) before a fight? Oh yeah, one that knows he'll fail :lol
Ya ya ya, we get it, you think he's guilty, we get it ...
You do know the people accusing him is totally psycho and probably on drugs themselves (not the performance enhancing kind, like the fuck you up in the brains kind) ... did you hear what Roger Mayweather said Pacquiao is on, that shit is hilarious, yah I'm going to take his word over Pac (but I do agree that Pac refusing in the beginning was pretty sketch and does make him kinda shady but I'd prefer to see evidence than just finger pointing) ...
dasuperstar
01-28-2010, 11:26 PM
In my own opinion pac does not used any steroids or drugs etc. to win his fight. Pacman was born in the street, carry tones of load and work when he was five. I guess through this experience he gain that steal body. Also they where scared because of the bias or other stuff that will happen on the test. Nways pacman doesnt need a fight anymore his a billionaire.
And maybe and this would be 90% true
Philippine national election is coming. Candidators use pacquio to promote thier selves especially the one that is running for president.
Pacman do this in two reason first connection and next is money...
Why? pacman will make half a billion(campaign, tip and TV advertisement and shows) on this better than battering his self up in the fight. After this May election the fight will continue trust me... that's a common practice in Philippines.
In my own opinion pac does not used any steroids or drugs etc. to win his fight. Pacman was born in the street, carry tones of load and work when he was five. I guess through this experience he gain that steal body. Also they where scared because of the bias or other stuff that will happen on the test. Nways pacman doesnt need a fight anymore his a billionaire.
And maybe and this would be 90% true
Philippine national election is coming. Candidators use pacquio to promote thier selves especially the one that is running for president.
Pacman do this in two reason first connection and next is money...
Why? pacman will make half a billion(campaign, tip and TV advertisement and shows) on this better than battering his self up in the fight. After this May election the fight will continue trust me... that's a common practice in Philippines.
For the sake of the country I hope he loses and never tries to go back into politics ever again ... we already have enough retards in office, don't really need a puppet as well ...
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