[twitchyzero]

so if you're a student, why are you still on RS?

friendly reminder not to waste precious time here

i'm on here too often..im still swamped with so many projects before i can start my studying damnit.

I've just deleted some forums in my bookmark toolbar and reinstalled msn for some self control haha.

time to dive back into those books!
:teach::whipped::crazy2::twirleye:

[Meowjin]

im done :(

[acyx]

:( bcos I'm addicted to the internet. First final on tueday and it determines my pass/fail in the course... Yikes. Been studying like crazy..

Good luck to everyone!
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[PiuYi]

i read all 9 pages of AsNoobAsItGets FC thread ytd at the library :(
same number of pages i read for my textbook...

[J-Chow]

2 final exams next week, + 1 Research Proposal.

Fun times, and my motivation level in completing the above objectives is currently at 0%

THANK YOU INTERNET AND COD MW2.

[pure.life]

gaming is a lot more fun when you know you shouldn't be playing.. especially during exams..

[CivicTypeRice]

I have finals @ 9:00am, it;s 1:33am and im on RS:p

[Jer3]

gaming is a lot more fun when you know you shouldn't be playing.. especially during exams..

haha i find this so true

[TOS'd]

I have finals @ 9:00am, it;s 1:33am and im on RS:p

8:30am, its 1:40am

[JulyZerg]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Projects and exams this week FML.

[CivicTypeRice]

I'll sleep after fapping!

[StylinRed]

im behind on my term papers... still havent started -_- i dunno what kind of an excuse im gonna need to come up with

[wuuhoo]

I have gone through 2 lectures of notes

hooray for me


haha not. Dont know why its so hard to studyy

[pawdregry4g]

I pulled an all nighter last night for some textbook grinding. That basically killed the study mood for today. :[

[Meowjin]

im behind on my term papers... still havent started -_- i dunno what kind of an excuse im gonna need to come up with

the jews

[StylinRed]

that might work ;) (profs german)

[wouwou]

At least you are in school. Wait till graduation, life turns into a bitch right then and there
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[TRDood]

just came back from sfu. 12 hour studying straight.
now i am lying in bed surfing rs.

hoping to pull 15 hours tml.

keep on studying guys!
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[RCubed]

regardless of exams, need my daily fix of rs!

[Drow]

has anybody else noticed that the internet is so much more interesting when you're procastinating? i find that theres soooo many cool videos on youtube, all the different forums on RS are just so informative, you suddenly seem to wanna creep thru every single person on your facebook and just about every link will take you to another link filled with content to keep you " busy ", while you keep on telling yourself " ill study after reading / watching this "

but when you have nothing to do, no midterms no homework no need to study, the internet is fckin dull as shit

[ziggyx]

^^ It's not just the internet man..Anything is interesting when you are procrastinating. One time I dled the gameboy emulator on computer before exam period started and I found myself playing a bunch of games but after finals were done I never touched it.. lol

[Armind]

FML

[StealthFighter]

^^ It's not just the internet man..Anything is interesting when you are procrastinating. One time I dled the gameboy emulator on computer before exam period started and I found myself playing a bunch of games but after finals were done I never touched it.. lol

hahaha for me it was a poker game on my phone.

[unit]

i have an exam tonight that i didnt study for
and a project due that isnt done yet.
im at work sorta half working on it as you can see from me posting here.

i only need 50% to pass and get reimbursed for the course from my company.
if i was actually interested in the material maybe i'd actually strive for a good grade.

[Qmx323]

i skipped class to study for the finals

[dachinesedude]

for the people who do 12 hr study days, do you actually do really good on the exams? im a study a week before exam type, but only like 3 hrs a day, can never do 12 hr straight

[taylor192]

If you need to cram now, don't bother, just take the C/D and move on in life.

The real world doesn't work this way. Employers will expect you to steadily get work done, not procrastinate till a deadline then a mad rush to get it done.

Do yourself a favour and learn this skill now. If you think employers only look at grades you are mistaken. More and more interviews include many questions on how you work, and last minute people are quickly filtered out.

[taylor192]

for the people who do 12 hr study days, do you actually do really good on the exams? im a study a week before exam type, but only like 3 hrs a day, can never do 12 hr straight

Everyone is different, yet I stick by this rule: if you know the material well enough to teach others, you'll do just fine.

I liked to study ahead of time, then help my friends study. It was a good judge to see if I could teach them the material, then I knew it well enough.

Also use the 80/20 rule. Its far better to spend time studying 80% of the material you know well, than time trying to learn the last 20% which might be too difficult or beyond your comprehension (everyone does have limits).

[taylor192]

I have finals @ 9:00am, it;s 1:33am and im on RS:p

Bad move.

A good night's sleep is the best thing you can do before an exam. You'll be relaxed and not stressed going in.

Did you know the best exam scores are on morning exams? Why? Cause your mind is most awake after a good sleep.

Did you know the worst exam scores are on afternoon exams? Why? Cause by the afternoon most of us get tired/distracted. Its best to take a nap before afternoon and evening exams.

Look it up if you don't believe me. I spent a lot of time in university researching how to get the best marks without spending stupid amounts of time studying. Studying interfered with keg parties.

[JKam]

i don't really study. I just wait for my friends to ask me questions and I teach them. Easy way to judge my comprehension of the material

[woob]

exams at 8:30am tomorrow, 8:30am wednesday, 8:30am saturday

:(

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

i read all 9 pages of AsNoobAsItGets FC thread ytd at the library :(
same number of pages i read for my textbook...

I have finals @ 9:00am, it;s 1:33am and im on RS:p

shit u guys are hardcore man


:eek:

[unit]

Everyone is different, yet I stick by this rule: if you know the material well enough to teach others, you'll do just fine.

I liked to study ahead of time, then help my friends study. It was a good judge to see if I could teach them the material, then I knew it well enough.

Also use the 80/20 rule. Its far better to spend time studying 80% of the material you know well, than time trying to learn the last 20% which might be too difficult or beyond your comprehension (everyone does have limits).

another use of the 80/20 rule here would be that 20% of your studying time results in 80% of your knowledge. the other 80% you're probably just chatting on msn, learning unnecessary stuff that isnt going to be tested or relevant, so tired that you're not absorbing the info, etc...

[taylor192]

shit u guys are hardcore man

:eek:
Hardcore is the wrong word. :eek: is probably more correct.

[taylor192]

another use of the 80/20 rule here would be that 20% of your studying time results in 80% of your knowledge. the other 80% you're probably just chatting on msn, learning unnecessary stuff that isnt going to be tested or relevant, so tired that you're not absorbing the info, etc...

No.

If you're tired, take a nap then study.
You shouldn't be tired studying last minute if you've studied all term.
If you're easily distracted while studying, find somewhere less distracting.
Learning to not be distracted is a skill so many lack today.

This is probably one of the biggest tips most students need: get away from the computer
- More and more classes/materials are being offered online, which encourages students to sit on the computer with easy access to a lot of distraction.
- Studies show we retain more knowledge when reading from printed paper than a computer screen.
- Print your material and get away from the computer. You'll learn more without distraction, and retain more.

[unit]

you obviously didnt understand my post.

[taylor192]

you obviously didnt understand my post.

If it was sarcasm, it failed miserably.
If it was serious, you failed miserably.

[unit]

your use of the 80/20 rule isnt really even the 80/20 rule.
you just found ways to say 80% and 20% in the same sentence.

[Audi-Quattro]

You both fail
Study the right 20% of the material and you'll be able to do 80% of the exam
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[unit]

80% of the outputs come from 20% of the inputs.
thats exactly what i said.

[acyx]

so true.. should b able to know what will get tested on for sure from the materials in class then you'll b fine

[J-Chow]

lol. studying useless courses FTL.

seriously, why incorprate courses to your degree that have no value or knowledge correlated to that major/program?
Paying $500 for a course, not including textbooks and taxes etc, so you can study your ass off and reiterate what the proff says in lecture, so you can receive a good mark, which lets you proceed onto further courses which also has no 'usefulness' in your future career, which then leads you to a piece of paper that's worth $30,000 or more which doesn't guarantee you a job, and then having to go back to school to repeat the process, because that current piece of paper just wasn't enough in the real world. makes you think don't it...

end rant. *puts on flame suit, flame on!* :rolleyes:

[Gh0stRider]

exam tomorrow !

[twitchyzero]

If you need to cram now, don't bother, just take the C/D and move on in life.

The real world doesn't work this way. Employers will expect you to steadily get work done, not procrastinate till a deadline then a mad rush to get it done.

Do yourself a favour and learn this skill now. If you think employers only look at grades you are mistaken. More and more interviews include many questions on how you work, and last minute people are quickly filtered out.
i dont think any employer would give a rats ass about grades unless you're in accounting/finances

most of us are trying to polish our grades because of applications to grade/professional school in the future.

that said, i fucked up royally in 1st and 2nd year (cGPA is around 69%) and I need to up that to at least 80% when i walk across the stage during my convocation.

Now that I'm in my senior years (3rd yr) it's time to get really serious about school =T

I only have 2 exams (this Fri and next Fri) but so many assignments before that.

[taylor192]

80% of the outputs come from 20% of the inputs.
thats exactly what i said.

That's not what you said at all. Please go study, you obviously need to.

[taylor192]

i dont think any employer would give a rats ass about grades unless you're in accounting/finances

You'd be surprised how many ask for transcripts. All the companies I have worked for ask for transcripts of new grads.

[taylor192]

You both fail
Study the right 20% of the material and you'll be able to do 80% of the exam

Not in medicine, science or engineering.

[twitchyzero]

^ what field are you in?

[unit]

i said 20% of your studying results in 80% of your knowledge.
in................................................ ...........................out

not like your 80/20 rule where you just fudged some random meanings that really meant nothing.

[taylor192]

^ what field are you in?
I have a mixed degree of systems/computers/software/electrical/communications engineering since I overloaded on courses. Currently work in health care IT.

[taylor192]

i said 20% of your studying results in 80% of your knowledge.
in................................................ ...........................out

not like your 80/20 rule where you just fudged some random meanings that really meant nothing.

Dude, you're not the example to follow:
i have an exam tonight that i didnt study for
and a project due that isnt done yet.
im at work sorta half working on it as you can see from me posting here.

You're actually an example of things I said you shouldn't do. Good work. :thumbsup:

[unit]

i'll give you another example of the 80/20 rule:

80% of the stupid comments in this thread come from 20% of the posters (you)

i'll give you a second to figure out what that means since you have SUCH a hard time grasping the concept.

shifting the topic didnt help your case either. i could completely skip the final thats worth 35% and still pass this course that i dont even care about.

[taylor192]

i'll give you another example of the 80/20 rule:

80% of the stupid comments in this thread come from 20% of the posters (you)
Shall I report you, or will you stop now?

i'll give you a second to figure out what that means since you have SUCH a hard time grasping the concept.
No need, I graduated in the top 20 of my engineering department, that's all of engineering in case you have a hard time comprehending.

Meanwhile you're slacking on studying, behind on projects. You should stop giving advice now, cause you just look like tard.

shifting the topic didnt help your case either. i could completely skip the final thats worth 35% and still pass this course that i dont even care about.
Yes, that's that's the way to succeed in school! :thumbsup: Everyone should follow your great behaviour. :thumbsup:

[unit]

i lol'd

ok im done :)

[xXDragonXx]

i dont think any employer would give a rats ass about grades unless you're in accounting/finances

most of us are trying to polish our grades because of applications to grade/professional school in the future.

that said, i fucked up royally in 1st and 2nd year (cGPA is around 69%) and I need to up that to at least 80% when i walk across the stage during my convocation.

Now that I'm in my senior years (3rd yr) it's time to get really serious about school =T

I only have 2 exams (this Fri and next Fri) but so many assignments before that.

I think that's the situation with almost everyone, as in they feel they could've done better in their 1st and 2nd years. Almost everyone doesn't truly anticipate how difficult university is compared to High School, so they don't realize how much more effort they have to put in. For those who do make it through 1st and 2nd year though, out of my friends (and myself), they find that they do better in their 3rd and 4th years because they know the amount of work they need to put in (that doesn't mean they get 100% and stuff, but they don't totally bomb some assignments/midterms like they did in first year.. which im sure a lot of us did).

I really like that a lot of grad schools only look at your last 60 credits (which they should, cause they're the most relevant to your degree and not the general courses that you take along with anyone in your faculty in 1st year at least). Unfortunately, that's not the case for a lot others =P:cry:

[kazuki]

Cramming for the last 2 days for my exam tomorrow. I'm pretty sure I'll do fine. I'm in healthsciences.

Cramming doesnt exactly mean you'll do bad. Some people work best under pressure.

[hotjoint]

:lol at this fail war between unit and taylor :Popcorn

[twitchyzero]

No.
If you're easily distracted while studying, find somewhere less distracting.
Learning to not be distracted is a skill so many lack today.

This is probably one of the biggest tips most students need: get away from the computer
- More and more classes/materials are being offered online, which encourages students to sit on the computer with easy access to a lot of distraction.
- Studies show we retain more knowledge when reading from printed paper than a computer screen.
- Print your material and get away from the computer. You'll learn more without distraction, and retain more.

QFT. I fucking hate online courses...my eyes get strained reading that shit too...I dont print either because i'd be changing toners so frequently.

That and the group works required..like wtf...online course was meant to do your own things at your own time...endless mass readings and no notes that can summarize the key concepts

[taylor192]

Cramming doesnt exactly mean you'll do bad. Some people work best under pressure.
I agree that different people will work best in different manners.

My point is most employers won't tolerate this. Most people work on a team, and if you lag behind you let team members down. Plus what happens if you wait till last minute and something goes wrong?

Its best to rid these bad habits before entering the workforce.

[taylor192]

I dont print either because i'd be changing toners so frequently.
Get a laser printer for just B&W. They are as cheap as $100, and print 1000s of pages.

I had one during school, helped so much.

[xXDragonXx]

:lol at this fail war between unit and taylor :Popcorn

haha I'm definitely enjoying it too.

I do agree with one point though. I think you should go over and really understand the 80% you do know really well.. then if you have time go over the 20% that you don't understand. Also, emphasize on stuff that is later in the semester as they'll put more questions from the later half on the final because you didn't really have a midterm to be tested on it.

I hate it though when I try to understand everything, and then when it comes to a question you should understand or know that you did at one point, you lost simple marks because you forget simple things. ARGH I just hate that, especially since it would've taken less time to just review that part "better" than to understand a something you know nothing about. And you end losing marks for the things "that you don't really know" anyways, just for the mere fact that you don't understand it.

[taylor192]

haha I'm definitely enjoying it too.

I do agree with one point though. I think you should go over and really understand the 80% you do know really well.. then if you have time go over the 20% that you don't understand. Also, emphasize on stuff that is later in the semester as they'll put more questions from the later half on the final because you didn't really have a midterm to be tested on it.

I hate it though when I try to understand everything, and then when it comes to a question you should understand or know that you did at one point, you lost simple marks because you forget simple things. ARGH I just hate that, especially since it would've taken less time to just review that part "better" than to understand a something you know nothing about. And you end losing marks for the things "that you don't really know" anyways, just for the mere fact that you don't understand it.
:thumbsup:

I find it really hard to get this across to students. Students want to "know everything" which just isn't possible or reasonable.

I didn't get 90s cause I knew 90% of the material really well. I could teach the 80% to friends, and knew about half of the remaining 20%.

Another tip: exams tend to focus on "core" material and not the extraneous one-off fact. How do you determine what is the core material? Get old exams/midterms/labs/assignments/projects! I cannot stress this enough, get as much old material as possible.

My first week at school I made friends with a dumb-ass in 3rd year. His marks sucked, so he had no problem giving away his old tests/assignments/labs. I never went into a course without having an idea of exactly what I would be tested on, and it sure helps narrow that 80% to study and know well.

[Armind]

http://www.jwz.org/images/love_your_job.gif (http://www.jwz.org/images/love_your_job.gif)

[xXDragonXx]

:thumbsup:

I find it really hard to get this across to students. Students want to "know everything" which just isn't possible or reasonable.

I didn't get 90s cause I knew 90% of the material really well. I could teach the 80% to friends, and knew about half of the remaining 20%.

Another tip: exams tend to focus on "core" material and not the extraneous one-off fact. How do you determine what is the core material? Get old exams/midterms/labs/assignments/projects! I cannot stress this enough, get as much old material as possible.

My first week at school I made friends with a dumb-ass in 3rd year. His marks sucked, so he had no problem giving away his old tests/assignments/labs. I never went into a course without having an idea of exactly what I would be tested on, and it sure helps narrow that 80% to study and know well.

Yeah, definitely! I've found that I've been able to get 80-90s in courses with really low class averages (55% ish, i'm in sciences) by:

1. Focusing on knowing how to do the questions that have been tested on in previous exams, and from which will most likely be tested in future exams. There's a difference from just massively reading a textbook compared with actually knowing how to do the question. In some ways, I've been guilty of knowing how to do the question but not really understanding what the point of this question is/or how it led to the answer. Usually if it's important enough, you'll encounter it in future courses and you'll recognize it, and understand it there (whether it be through the teacher re-teaching it or cause you have to understand it cause it's vital for your success)

2. Firm believer that studying is time used effectively rather than time spent studying. I'm a big procrastinator myself, but when I feel I need to study I virtually surround myself around as little distractions as possible. At times, just tell yourself that "starting to study" is harder than the actually studying. I don't know what gets me to overcome that feeling, but when I can, it works.

3. Like previously mentioned, focus on the "core" stuff. There's so much crap that they feed you in courses, but a lot of it is just for your knowledge, even if they say its important. A good thing to look over is the course objectives, and if you're able to "perform/understand/utilize" the course objectives, you should be fine.

4. This last point, I don't know if it's true for everyone but... go with your gut instinct. If you think that's the answer, just go for it. And even if you start second-guessing, don't change your answer from your initial answer unless you know WITHOUT A DOUBT that you did it wrong. But if you have any doubts after your initial thoughts, just stick with it.

Oh yeah, and if you're studying and you find your sleepy, take a POWER NAP. I don't mean one of those naps that last a couple hours.. just 15-30 mins max. Get someone to phone you or a family member to physically wake you up if you're afraid of oversleeping. Like I said about studying time.. quality over quantity. If you're still sleepy, slowly sip on pepsi or an energy drink or something... don't chug it all down, cause you're just going to get extremely wired and then set yourself up for an extreme crash that you're going to have to work yourself through if you really want to study.

[twitchyzero]

I think that's the situation with almost everyone, as in they feel they could've done better in their 1st and 2nd years. Almost everyone doesn't truly anticipate how difficult university is compared to High School, so they don't realize how much more effort they have to put in. For those who do make it through 1st and 2nd year though, out of my friends (and myself), they find that they do better in their 3rd and 4th years because they know the amount of work they need to put in (that doesn't mean they get 100% and stuff, but they don't totally bomb some assignments/midterms like they did in first year.. which im sure a lot of us did).

I really like that a lot of grad schools only look at your last 60 credits (which they should, cause they're the most relevant to your degree and not the general courses that you take along with anyone in your faculty in 1st year at least). Unfortunately, that's not the case for a lot others =P:cry:
Totally agreed, I hate how majority of the professional programs look at ALL 4 years for cGPA.

That's why I think pharmacy is a faculty to get in since most people apply with only 1st and 2nd year grades...it's probably best they finish their degree and get a higher cGPA before reapplying.

[PiuYi]

:lol at this fail war between unit and taylor :Popcorn

bahahhaha fail-a-thons :haha:

[xXDragonXx]

Totally agreed, I hate how majority of the professional programs look at ALL 4 years for cGPA.

That's why I think pharmacy is a faculty to get in since most people apply with only 1st and 2nd year grades...it's probably best they finish their degree and get a higher cGPA before reapplying.

I've found that the majority of the grad schools look at cGPA but emphasize or really care about the last two years (although there are exceptions like medicine, which look at certain courses like Organic chem, which is done in 1st or 2nd year as well as MCat). From a lot of "talks" I've had, even if your cGPA is not that high but your last 60 credits are high, you should be fine. A lot of grad schools look at that student who cannot only perform (which is shown in your final 2 years) but that you also have the versatility to grow, adjust, and improve as a student (cause grad school is another different transition, and you have to able to adjust to it to be successful)

[CP.AR]

I forgot how to do Integration by parts and Integration by substitution... (prostitution?)

ah FML. I haven't been on RS for 2 days and I was suffering from withdrawal symptoms

[AzNightmare]

I think some of you guys need to reformat your computer until exams are over.
Too much failing, not enough studying.

[CP.AR]

^ Yeah i gotta get my Windows 7 installed (currently running RTM so I can't do a direct upgrade)

[terkan]

If you need to cram now, don't bother, just take the C/D and move on in life.

Nah, you've obviously haven't mastered the art of cramming. It's not how long you study, it's how you study.

[tegz]

because RS > Medical genetics.. :/

[tegz]

5:50AM, reporting in...

just finished studying... now to go to sleep and repeat the cycle tomorrow.

Oh school life, how i will miss you.

[taylor192]

Nah, you've obviously haven't mastered the art of cramming. It's not how long you study, it's how you study.

That wasn't my point.

My point is cram all you want, an employer will find out your bad habits and even your good grades won't matter.

[ajax]

First experience with exams in post secondary. One every day this week:(.

[taylor192]

I think that's the situation with almost everyone, as in they feel they could've done better in their 1st and 2nd years. Almost everyone doesn't truly anticipate how difficult university is compared to High School, so they don't realize how much more effort they have to put in. For those who do make it through 1st and 2nd year though, out of my friends (and myself), they find that they do better in their 3rd and 4th years because they know the amount of work they need to put in (that doesn't mean they get 100% and stuff, but they don't totally bomb some assignments/midterms like they did in first year.. which im sure a lot of us did).
I graduated out of OAC (Grade 13) in Ontario and found first year university to be a lot of repetition of OAC and very easy to get As without a lot of studying.

OAC has been removed in Ontario, and many other provinces don't have grade 13 either, so that might explain why 1st year is such a failure for many.

My other explanation is that I'm a small town country boy, had a beer in my hand when I was 8, first strip club when I was 15, regularly bar hopping when I was 17. By the time university came I'd already mastered the ability to party hard and get good grades in high school. :thumbsup: Its a skill that takes many beers to learn.

[taylor192]

First experience with exams in post secondary. One every day this week:(.
That's actually good news. Its all over at once, and forces you to prepare and manage your time.

Consider is a blessing you're getting this experience early on, you'll be better off later.

[Dentz]

Finished my exams today, now all I've got left are end of term papers.

[Alphamale]

I graduated out of OAC (Grade 13) in Ontario and found first year university to be a lot of repetition of OAC and very easy to get As without a lot of studying.

OAC has been removed in Ontario, and many other provinces don't have grade 13 either, so that might explain why 1st year is such a failure for many.

My other explanation is that I'm a small town country boy, had a beer in my hand when I was 8, first strip club when I was 15, regularly bar hopping when I was 17. By the time university came I'd already mastered the ability to party hard and get good grades in high school. :thumbsup: Its a skill that takes many beers to learn.

http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/3374/original/Cool_story_bro_.jpg

[Gh0stRider]

all done. woohoo.

[crazyazn]

Shit...I did no studying today...time to start now

[Gumby]

Some people can't wait to be finished school. But once they're done, they want to go back to school.

As for myself, I don't miss school or exams whatsoever. :D

[trd2343]

This is probably one of the biggest tips most students need: get away from the computer
- More and more classes/materials are being offered online, which encourages students to sit on the computer with easy access to a lot of distraction.
- Studies show we retain more knowledge when reading from printed paper than a computer screen.
- Print your material and get away from the computer. You'll learn more without distraction, and retain more.

Do you mind pointing me to the source that says we retain more knowledge reading from a printed paper?

I have a very low concentration level, especially when I'm on the computer (ie. like now). But sometimes, the notes are online and I don't want to waste paper to print it out.

Side note, any tips on how to study, or specifically, methods? For me, I just read my notes 3-4 times, and it somewhat works.

[J-Chow]

Side note, any tips on how to study, or specifically, methods? For me, I just read my notes 3-4 times, and it somewhat works.

For me, as of right now,

I'm going through each chapter that will be tested, and writing and re-writing important sections and notes that I believe will be on the test. After writing those notes, I read the summary of each chapter along with the notes that I had just recently typed.

Then, I go through the study questions and try to answer them utilizing my notes and textbook as my final preparation before the exam.








.....I still end up with a shitty mark :haha:

[taylor192]

Do you mind pointing me to the source that says we retain more knowledge reading from a printed paper?

I have a very low concentration level, especially when I'm on the computer (ie. like now). But sometimes, the notes are online and I don't want to waste paper to print it out.

Side note, any tips on how to study, or specifically, methods? For me, I just read my notes 3-4 times, and it somewhat works.
There's lots, Google: "reading retention paper screen"

Recent research has found that reading a longer text on paper is 25% faster than reading the same text on a computer screen. At the same time, reading comprehension and article overview are improved.

Readers of text on paper typically concentrate fully on what they're doing, while readers of screen content are either hard at work fighting off distractions or have resigned to giving the text only cursory attention.

Forget the "wasting paper" argument the environmental hippies have driven into us. Trees regrow, as long as the paper comes from a sustainable forest (Forest Stewardship Council logo), we'll always have more paper. If you still feel bad then at least recycle it.

I always print and read. I've tried reading eBooks on my tablet PC and note: eye strain make sit uncomfortable after awhile, and I'm almost always distracted and surf the web.

[fa1civic]

anyone in bcit fin man 1st yr, how did u guys find your accounting and math finals?

[alex.w *//]

^ easy, some of it is tricky :D

[tiger_handheld]

Everyone is different, yet I stick by this rule: if you know the material well enough to teach others, you'll do just fine.

I liked to study ahead of time, then help my friends study. It was a good judge to see if I could teach them the material, then I knew it well enough.

Also use the 80/20 rule. Its far better to spend time studying 80% of the material you know well, than time trying to learn the last 20% which might be too difficult or beyond your comprehension (everyone does have limits).

tell me: i forget
show me: i remember
involve me: i understand

/thread

[soymilk]

xchange;6719232']anyone in bcit fin man 1st yr, how did u guys find your accounting and math finals?

Math was easy.. but the accounting one was kinda tricky

[acyx]

xchange;6719232']anyone in bcit fin man 1st yr, how did u guys find your accounting and math finals?

lol my frd was just telling me she failed..

anyways..
i bombed my math final today :(
i didnt leave the house for 3 days.. just doing questions..
shouldve partied it up.. booooooooo

[Benz_05TSX]

The Asian JB thread keep throwing me off track, I can't study! whatever, either you know it or you don't ! hahahahha

[Audi-Quattro]

Tips on studying a course you barely know anything and have only 12 hours to study for the final?

[woob]

ohhhhh yeah 8:30am multivar calc final tomorrow

[rageguy]

ohhhhh yeah 8:30am multivar calc final tomorrow

math 200 at ubc? it was a murder.

[CP.AR]

math 200 at ubc? it was a murder.

my math 200 exam is at 12PM lol

[CP.AR]

Tips on studying a course you barely know anything and have only 12 hours to study for the final?

read shit online, and read the solutions for previous finals - chances are some of those same questions will appear.

[Drow]

my math 200 exam is at 12PM lol

may the force be with you

[Beilei]

weathernetwork reports 15cm of snow on sunday and I have an exam on monday

[Alphamale]

^You will probably fail that exam regardless because you're dumb enough to trust the weathernetwork for weather.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-74_metric_e.html

[Beilei]

putting on snow tires regardless

[TRDood]

just finished a 14 hours of studying, 1 hour break. :)

life of a grad student is VERY different when u try to beat the avg against 30 other students with straight As in undergrad.
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[TRDood]

still very awake from Full Throttle. fuck.
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[woob]

math 200 at ubc? it was a murder.

253 in my case. and I just shat the bed on this one.

[MelonBoy]

fml.. i just spent 7 hours cramming earlier this morning with no sleep for my 8am exam that a totally fucked .. but the 1pm exam i ace! so.. ehh.. 1 more to go then im free for 3 months WOOT

[muteki]

Can't concentrate! I want to go out!
If only my stupid finals were earlier. >_<

[twitchyzero]

2 week break is too short! at least we get an extra week for reading break because of the olympics .

[MDMA]

Fuckkkkkkk uuuuuuuu exams!!!!!!!!

[jimzilla]

im so happy to be done (exams)

[CP.AR]

GOT ASS RAPAGED TODAY BY MATH 200!!!!

[Drow]

im so happy to be done (exams)

i havent even started my first one yet WTF

[CP.AR]

im done 2/5 :D

[jeff_alexander]

Tips on studying a course you barely know anything and have only 12 hours to study for the final?

http://carolporteous.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/an_hero2.jpg

[maxxxboost]

Shiet. Time to study. Off to the library i go....in 30 minutes. hahaha

[Drow]

3 exams next 2 days... dont think i can sleep

[muteki]

One more to go!

[StylinRed]

I missed my final........

thought it was next week....

......./fail

[pawdregry4g]

I missed my final........

thought it was next week....

......./fail

ouch, talk to the prof yet?

[Euro7r]

FUUUUUUUU. Just had the hardest mother fucking exam. 3hours, 6 questions, didn't even finish the exam. Only finished 3 out of the 6 questions.

Well, this isn't suppose to be an easy course anyways. CGA level 4 course, Advanced Financial Accounting. But, FUCK!

[crazyazn]

^Ouch...

Spent my whole day at Irving...

[CP.AR]

If you ever have problems in your calculus exam... just do the following!

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/epic-fail-calculus-fail.jpg

[StylinRed]

ouch, talk to the prof yet?

well i sent an email, i notice she's handling another exam for another course next week gonna see if i can get in on that time slot :/

[twitchyzero]

I missed my final........

thought it was next week....

......./fail

lol noob
i did the same thing in the past, but that was math 8:rofl:

i just finished all of my assignments and my first final...last one's a week away so i can take it easy for the next day or two

[Audi-Quattro]

Anyone ever got a raging hard on from your instructor so bad that you can't concentrate on final?

[J-Chow]

^ um no. especially not from joan brockman.

[Audi-Quattro]

^ this is her?
http://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/files/summer2008/Joan_Brockman.jpg

[hamhead]

my COMP prof. probably the hottest and nicest profs ill ever get

http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/science/images/Penner_Office_Dec08-168.jpg

[EDawg]

Anyone ever got a raging hard on from your instructor so bad that you can't concentrate on final?

WTF???

[Audi-Quattro]

WTF???

I'm bored. Edwin.

[maxxxboost]

gawd, 10 hours tax till exam.

[J-Chow]

7 hours and countin. Time to take a nap.

[unit]

my COMP prof. probably the hottest and nicest profs ill ever get

http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/science/images/Penner_Office_Dec08-168.jpg

cutest comp teacher thats for sure. my last female comp teach was a fat smoker with a mullet

[TRD Rs200]

^^ failed with a mullet!

[maxxxboost]

LOL
Was she Caucasian?

[maxxxboost]

anyone still kicking around?

[yameen]

sleeping now after finishing my term paper.

[ShanghaiKid]

up here all night... studying and waiting for CRIM 330... with joan brockman

:(

[AVS_Racing]

Anybody in the Crim 104 Exam tom???

[crazyazn]

1hr 15min till exam....=/

[Audi-Quattro]

Sweet 1 more hr then I write my exam and get a F
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[hotong]

Sweet 1 more hr then I write my exam and get a F
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lol, my first F will be this Wednesday

[van_driver]

just finished one of my exams
felt like jacking off in the middle
of the exam for some reason and
completely fucked up...

[J-Chow]

up here all night... studying and waiting for CRIM 330... with joan brockman

:(

yea, i think i bombed that exam this morning :cry:
oh welllz.

[CP.AR]

just finished one of my exams
felt like jacking off in the middle
of the exam for some reason and
completely fucked up...

I SERIOUSLY recommend you to get checked by a physician.

[woob]

yay 4 day break til next exam

[DragonChi]

I wish that you still needed a login to browse RS.

I used to be able to make an impossible password and abstain until I was finished exams.

Pretty sure it would help everyone that's posted in this thread... hahaaha!

ace'd todays final! w00t. At least in my mind I did... I hate it when an exam comes back and it's not as good as you thought.

[Jer3]

lol, my first F will be this Wednesday

you and me both bro. i think i will get my first D or F today :haha: :(

[E=mc²]

my exams at 830 and i cant fuckin sleep

[The_AK]

calculus exam at 7pm... it will be quite the battle

[sweetiee]

English profs are the worst. They're out to fail you.
and who uses Calculus anyway? I HATE CALCULUS.

[taylor192]

and who uses Calculus anyway? I HATE CALCULUS.
What program are you in?

If you think Calculus is hard, try 4th year engineering math.

[sweetiee]

What program are you in?

If you think Calculus is hard, try 4th year engineering math.

Not engineering.

[q0192837465]

god, Finance exam in 2.5 hrs & i'm still not ready

[anl27]

feeling totally unprepared and feel like you're gonna fail?
click the swine flu button! (ubc)

[SchoolGlue]

feeling totally unprepared and feel like you're gonna fail?
click the swine flu button! (ubc)

WHAT DO IF I CLICKED that button last month?:cry:

WHAT DO!

[terkan]

What program are you in?

If you think Calculus is hard, try 4th year engineering math.
Why would ppl willingly go into engy. Everyone's a guy.... even the girls in there look like guys....

[RCubed]

Why would ppl willingly go into engy. Everyone's a guy.... even the girls in there look like guys....

cuz school is more than just chasing girls.

[terkan]

cuz school is more than just chasing girls.

There's tons of good programs that don't end up as a sausagefest.

[RCubed]

Lol, if everyone thought like you, there would be no engineers in the world.

[van_driver]

I don't like most engineer students, they talk like they're life is so much more harder and valuable then other people

[crazyazn]

^They're life IS harder while at school...but they chose to have a shitty university life lol

[J-Chow]

WHAT DO IF I CLICKED that button last month?:cry:

WHAT DO!

mutherfuckin engrish!

Last Final Exam - ETA - 16 hours - Crim 321.

I can't wait until until I finish this.

Then i'll be non stop COD + Forza + LFD 2 FTMFW :thumbsup:

[woob]

Why would ppl willingly go into engy. Everyone's a guy.... even the girls in there look like guys....

cuz we'll end up building your bridges, roads, buildings, making sure your water supply is clean, powering your home and the rest of the city, designing your next car, and designing almost everything in your computer case...


...now just fucking hand me my McChicken meal.

[terkan]

cuz we'll end up building your bridges, roads, buildings, making sure your water supply is clean, powering your home and the rest of the city, designing your next car, and designing almost everything in your computer case...


...now just fucking hand me my McChicken meal.
Yes... everyone on revscene must be inferior to engineers and work at mcdicks. But w/e it takes to justify 4 years of nothing but beautiful boys right?

[maxxxboost]

Last fking exam at 7pm!
THEN VEGAS!!!!!

[lilaznviper]

I got midterm today and thursday then it's break finally
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[taylor192]

cuz we'll end up building your bridges, roads, buildings, making sure your water supply is clean, powering your home and the rest of the city, designing your next car, and designing almost everything in your computer case...


...now just fucking hand me my McChicken meal.

Oh no, more ERTW BS.

I'm an engineer and will set this guy straight. Engineers are worker bees, we're typically the lowest in a company despite being well paid. We don't build bridges, roads, buildings, ... architects do, we just help architects like good worker bees.

Remember, that bridge is built by the lowest bidder who typically doesn't employ the brightest engineers. :D Doesn't that make you feel safe?

[CP.AR]

I got midterm today and thursday then it's break finally
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I do hope you meant to say finals.

[woob]

Oh no, more ERTW BS.

I'm an engineer and will set this guy straight. Engineers are worker bees, we're typically the lowest in a company despite being well paid. We don't build bridges, roads, buildings, ... architects do, we just help architects like good worker bees.

Remember, that bridge is built by the lowest bidder who typically doesn't employ the brightest engineers. :D Doesn't that make you feel safe?

Architects aren't hired for sea-to-sky renos. It's civil, geotechs, and geologists who employed in that scenario.

Buildings.. yeah architects :)

[twitchyzero]

no need to get your panties all twisted
engineering students work hard in school and practically have no life during their studies..but there's no reason to put-down other disciplines

[q0192837465]

At least eng students are bees, us science nerds r slaves

[lilaznviper]

I do hope you meant to say finals.

no i did mean to say midterms
i had my finals when most people had their midterms
its just like that with the program im in

[Audi-Quattro]

^wtf? what kinda of program is that?

and i just fucking finished today!

[xXDragonXx]

no i did mean to say midterms
i had my finals when most people had their midterms
its just like that with the program im in... ValueVillage FTW!

^wtf? what kinda of program is that?

and i just fucking finished today!

Value Village Managerial Training @ DeVry University.

It's a three year course teaching the complexity of thriftiness and bargaining skills. You also get an intro into how to deal with pan-handlers and how to rate/price items you receive in bins and garbage bags when you open up the store in the morning.

This program also includes a co-op work placement, where you get hands on experience for half your degree length at a competitive wage of 9.11/hour.

[TRDood]

IM DONE MOTHERFUCKERSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

NOW 24 HOURS OF L4D2

damn, still gotta invigilate a final and mark tml... fml

[kknater]

Welcome to the good life!!

^l4d2 sounds like an excellent idea.

[CP.AR]

Anybody get CS:S for 5 dollars over the weekend?

Otherwise...
time to get PWNZD BY Math 220 (mathematical Proofs)

[maxxxboost]

Fk ya. Woot. At sea tac waiting for flight. Good luck on everyones final
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[dimsum119]

Enjoy ur well deserved trip

[woob]

fuck I still have one more on the 21st


oh and I fucking raped Math 255 today xD (differential equations)

[twitchyzero]

the instructor just told me that my last exam is oopen book..now i hvae no motivation to even look over the notes

[tiger_handheld]

lucky u guys. my only final is on teh 21st =(

[hotong]

the instructor just told me that my last exam is oopen book..now i hvae no motivation to even look over the notes

i've had a open computer exam once lol.. course was a joke.

[lilaznviper]

^wtf? what kinda of program is that?

and i just fucking finished today!

i'm at bcit taking a computer networking course
last midterm tmr before my christmas break and so far i found out i know very little for that course:cry:

back to studying

[TRDood]

fuck. now i have 187 exams to mark.

[Zyzz]

engineering is the most fucking retarded degree ever

unless you are satisfied with 4-5 grand salary a month.... do not come in here.... courses averages are always scaled to 65, compared to 75 in other faculties, no chicks, nerd guys, lame jokes, assignments take up to 6 hours each, and projects and labs up to 3 days each unless you got hookups, about 20% failing rate for courses, fucks up your gpa for grad schools, 6 courses every term, always stay overnights for labs, and the general material are really hard

unless you work your ass off, i mean having no social life and basically grind through textbooks, assignments and wikipedia every weekend, your gpa is fucked and say goodbye to gradschool

when my son goes to U, i will tell him to go to arts, get straight A's, get laid like crazy, and go to Law or dental or whatever

[dimsum119]

the instructor just told me that my last exam is oopen book..now i hvae no motivation to even look over the notes

My class asked the prof for a test once and he let us do it, it was the FUCKING HARDEST test ever!!!

He said after class, "Never ask the prof for an open book test cuz I can make it as hard as I want and you don't have any excuses."

[Qmx323]

My class asked the prof for a test once and he let us do it, it was the FUCKING HARDEST test ever!!!

He said after class, "Never ask the prof for an open book test cuz I can make it as hard as I want and you don't have any excuses."



bahahha yeah

got my econ at 8am 2mr

then an accounting on monday :)

[twitchyzero]

donee
finished off strong...LOL they let us use our notes and prof said google was fair game..just no e-mail/msn/SMS.
the entire exam was done on the computer.

3 more full semester to go until my convocation...looking forward to GTFO here.

[EDawg]

i'm fucking doneskiisssss :D

[teaoh]

eyah finally donee!

[twitchyzero]

enjoy your break everyone
if you're still writing exams i feel for ya, cause we're now 6 days away from xmas eve haha.

[crazyazn]

goddamn i still have exams until the very last day...22nd

[CP.AR]

fuck. now i have 187 exams to mark.

just do checkmarks for everything. It will be much quicker that way

[woob]

grrrrrrr monday is my last exam!

[teaoh]

Do any of you guys have a goal in final percent mark you would like to get or above to be happy with it?

[TRDood]

4.00

didn't get that.

[Culture_Vulture]

I'm fucking done
DONE DONE DONE DONE DONE

[josh t-1]

^ Me to man! feel FUCKING GREAT!!! my brain is officially off...

[ntan]

engineering is the most fucking retarded degree ever

unless you are satisfied with 4-5 grand salary a month.... do not come in here.... courses averages are always scaled to 65, compared to 75 in other faculties, no chicks, nerd guys, lame jokes, assignments take up to 6 hours each, and projects and labs up to 3 days each unless you got hookups, about 20% failing rate for courses, fucks up your gpa for grad schools, 6 courses every term, always stay overnights for labs, and the general material are really hard

unless you work your ass off, i mean having no social life and basically grind through textbooks, assignments and wikipedia every weekend, your gpa is fucked and say goodbye to gradschool

when my son goes to U, i will tell him to go to arts, get straight A's, get laid like crazy, and go to Law or dental or whatever

It's not as bad as you say it is... def. no girls (only 1 in my year) but those who are usually in engineering have an aptitude for math / physics etc... so it's not that rape. I wish Engineers got a lil more respect tho!

[Zyzz]

i got over a grand in scholarship in grade 12, with 94 average in phy/chem/bio/math, and I still stuggled in engineering...

haha actually many girls from other faculties have a lot of respect for us guys in engineering... its just that some of the sauder guys dont.... they are probably jealous we get to minor commerce but they can't minor engineering.... but many of them are pretty cool too.

[van_driver]

i got over a grand in scholarship in grade 12, with 94 average in phy/chem/bio/math, and I still stuggled in engineering...

haha actually many girls from other faculties have a lot of respect for us guys in engineering... its just that some of the sauder guys dont.... they are probably jealous we get to minor commerce but they can't minor engineering.... but many of them are pretty cool too.

pshhh sauder hater:p

[woob]

It's not as bad as you say it is... def. no girls (only 1 in my year) but those who are usually in engineering have an aptitude for math / physics etc... so it's not that rape. I wish Engineers got a lil more respect tho!

wow 1 girl out of how many kids? And what department are you in?

[taylor192]

engineering is the most fucking retarded degree ever

unless you are satisfied with 4-5 grand salary a month.... do not come in here.... courses averages are always scaled to 65, compared to 75 in other faculties, no chicks, nerd guys, lame jokes, assignments take up to 6 hours each, and projects and labs up to 3 days each unless you got hookups, about 20% failing rate for courses, fucks up your gpa for grad schools, 6 courses every term, always stay overnights for labs, and the general material are really hard

unless you work your ass off, i mean having no social life and basically grind through textbooks, assignments and wikipedia every weekend, your gpa is fucked and say goodbye to gradschool
Sounds like you're in the wrong degree, engineering isn't for everyone.

I had the opposite experience in engineering. I kept an A+ average through all 4 years, did very little homework, found assignments easy, rarely "studied" (ie cramming days before tests, I read leisurely in my spare time)... I joined a Fraternity and spent more time drinking than studying. I overloaded on courses and essentially completed 2 engineering degrees in 5 years.

If you get it, its easy, otherwise you have to put many hours in struggling to understand. My brother struggled in the software aspects of aerospace engineering and switched to civil engineering to avoid them, and his grades improved from Cs to As.

I would probably get Fs in philosophy, yet As in engineering. You gotta find what works for you.

If you're struggling now, you might as well switch programs cause doing this everyday for the rest of your life will suck, and if its hard for you, it'll be equally hard to get a better job and better pay.

$5K/mn in $60K/yr, which is a decent salary. If you're a good engineer you'll always make well in excess of that. I started near $70K and was clearing $100K after 5 years. The 2 years before I moved to Vancouver I made $110K and $125K with only 6-7 years experience.

Grad school is a waste for engineering (except maybe Aerospace/Mechanical engineering). Its for people that cannot find jobs with their current experience/grades, or want to specialize in R&D which typically pays less (yet is very interesting). You'll learn more relevant information and gain valuable experience in 2 years of working vs 2 years of grad school.

[tiger_handheld]

any of you guys in accounting / finance ? hows it going for you guys?

[SiRV]

FINISHED!

[CP.AR]

Econ 367 and Econ 301 Monday and Tuesday respectively...

[choda]

I have 301 on tuesday too, whose your prof? II got yilankaya or are you with Chappel?

[cctw]

any of you guys in accounting / finance ? hows it going for you guys?

I have an exam on monday still...

grad finance now DAP at ubc haha...its not that bad..its only bad for me cos i cant get things into my mind until 2 days before the exam haha

[goo3]

i got over a grand in scholarship in grade 12, with 94 average in phy/chem/bio/math, and I still stuggled in engineering...


Sounds like you're in the wrong degree, engineering isn't for everyone.

I had the opposite experience in engineering. I kept an A+ average through all 4 years, did very little homework, found assignments easy, rarely "studied" (ie cramming days before tests, I read leisurely in my spare time)... I joined a Fraternity and spent more time drinking than studying. I overloaded on courses and essentially completed 2 engineering degrees in 5 years.

If you get it, its easy, otherwise you have to put many hours in struggling to understand. My brother struggled in the software aspects of aerospace engineering and switched to civil engineering to avoid them, and his grades improved from Cs to As.

I would probably get Fs in philosophy, yet As in engineering. You gotta find what works for you.

If you're struggling now, you might as well switch programs cause doing this everyday for the rest of your life will suck, and if its hard for you, it'll be equally hard to get a better job and better pay.


Sorry man, that's just bad advice.

If you like it, stick with it. If you don't, do something else. You're there to learn and it sounds like you're learning. One day, it won't seem that hard anymore.. probably after you start working and get better study habits and understand how everything in your field tends to work.

I bet when you finish, you'll find a lot worse engineers than you who got worse grades, but ended up with pretty good jobs. Everybody develops at a different pace. There's always gonna be someone better than you no matter what career you choose. That's not a reason to quit something.

[taylor192]

Sorry man, that's just bad advice.

If you like it, stick with it. If you don't, do something else. You're there to learn and it sounds like you're learning. One day, it won't seem that hard anymore.. probably after you start working and get better study habits and understand how everything in your field tends to work.

Its not bad advice.

Engineering (or technology in general) is a constant learning process. If its hard now, it'll always be hard. if he struggles now, he'll always struggle. Its not something which one day "you get it" cause tomorrow you'll have to learn something new.

I'm not suggesting quit, I'm suggesting change directions.

I bet when you finish, you'll find a lot worse engineers than you who got worse grades, but ended up with pretty good jobs.
There's lots of bad engineers that are paid well. My comment has nothing to do with this. Its a quality of life decision. Would you want to struggle your entire life at something? Or find something you're good at?

Everybody develops at a different pace. There's always gonna be someone better than you no matter what career you choose. That's not a reason to quit something.
It takes about 10,000 hrs of practice to master something.

The reason I don't struggle with engineering is cause I've loved technology since I was young, its a hobby I enjoy in my leisure time. The engineers I see struggle aren't tech geeks. They don't enjoy constantly learning about technology in their free time. They are just in it for a good job and to be paid well.

Consider working 40hrs/week, it would take you 5 yrs to master something. Just when that happens, technology changes, and they start all over again.
I read programming books in my free time cause I enjoy learning, stuff I won't even use at work. Meanwhile coworkers I've had that struggle have no interest in learning prior to needing the knowledge.

Your comments are inline with this: "Stick with it cause you'll be paid well". No, that's just wrong. "Do it if you enjoy it", and you won't need to "stick with it" or struggle doing it.

[CP.AR]

I have 301 on tuesday too, whose your prof? II got yilankaya or are you with Chappel?

I'm with Chapple, Tuesday/Thursday 12:30 class

[goo3]

Your comments are inline with this: "Stick with it cause you'll be paid well". No, that's just wrong. "Do it if you enjoy it", and you won't need to "stick with it" or struggle doing it.

My comments ??? That's a reach. I don't think you read what I wrote at all. You even quoted what I said: "If you like it, stick with it. If you don't, do something else." :crazy2:

I can just as easily misconstrue and summarize some BS about your comments: "If it's hard, don't try" to make my point stronger. Is that stupid thing to do or what? I guess it's not if you only care about sounding good, but not about being correct.


Engineering (or technology in general) is a constant learning process. If its hard now, it'll always be hard. if he struggles now, he'll always struggle. Its not something which one day "you get it" cause tomorrow you'll have to learn something new.

[snip]

Consider working 40hrs/week, it would take you 5 yrs to master something. Just when that happens, technology changes, and they start all over again.
I read programming books in my free time cause I enjoy learning, stuff I won't even use at work. Meanwhile coworkers I've had that struggle have no interest in learning prior to needing the knowledge.


How do you know the barriers which are causing him to struggle now can't be overcome? He's not 30. He's just left high school. The only thing that isn't hard for most ppl that age is sitting on their asses.

Yes, engineering is a constant learning process. I'll just say this and we can disagree on this point if you wish: Most ppl i've met in eng agree with me.. after your transition period into the engineering world, your study habits become better, your ability to learn material fast becomes better, your ability to understand written material in sometimes cyptic engineering english gets better. Improving these skills goes a long way to whether you get it or not.

As you gain more experience, you'll find the same concepts are used over and over again, so the learning becomes more incremental instead of constantly throwing what you learned away. Add these things to the fact that what you do in school is so different from what you do at work, and that is why I said the things I said in my original reply.

The bottom line should be motivation & skill -- do you like this stuff and can you do it. With HS marks in the 90s, that dude obviously has some sort of potential. I believe you won't know if it's the right path unless you try it for real (eg. coop) instead of comparing it to one individual's early experience.

[choda]

I'm with Chapple, Tuesday/Thursday 12:30 class

How did you do on the midterm? Are you ready for the final on tuesday? I am sooooooooo screwed!

[CP.AR]

How did you do on the midterm? Are you ready for the final on tuesday? I am sooooooooo screwed!
Midterm was not good.. But at least i still passed.
As for the final. Yes i am ready to fail. Like i mean phail
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[taylor192]

How do you know the barriers which are causing him to struggle now can't be overcome?
...

With HS marks in the 90s, that dude obviously has some sort of potential.
Cause he had high grades in HS, referenced studying lots, struggling, low salaries, no girls, no social life, ... and how engineering wasn't worth it.

Its safe to say my points are valid for him, and its him I was responding to.

[choda]

Fuckkkkkkk only one more day and it's all over...good luck to you tomorrow picard!

[ziggyx]

^^ damn i thought i was unlucky finishing my last exam just an hour ago.

[ronald55555]

Cause he had high grades in HS, referenced studying lots, struggling, low salaries, no girls, no social life, ... and how engineering wasn't worth it.

Its safe to say my points are valid for him, and its him I was responding to.

I kind of agree with Taylor on this one. I'm in mechanical engineering myself. Sorry to say, but some people just aren't cut out for it. It really takes a while to have a grasp at it and fully appreciate what you're learning. Having high grades in high school/academic courses doesn't translate into success in engineering. What really helps is having hobbies and interests relevent to your field, rebuilding cars, engines, tinkering with toys. I dont find engineering difficult at all, I rarely study and get pretty decent grades. In high school I was getting 50s, 60s, 70s. I also find that the majority of students in engineering has no desire to actually become an engineering after they graduate, they're more interested in project management, or they picked engineering because they thought it's "cool", but had no idea what's it's actually about. You'd be surprised to know how many senior engineering students doesnt even know how an engine works, or even how to change the spare tire.

[cctw]

I AM DONE =D

[Zyzz]

well i am majoring nanotechology engineering and minoring in commerce

one more year and i grad... its not that i dont get high grades in here, but im saying that if i put the same amount of effort in arts or sauder, i will definately get better grades

[tegz]

well i am majoring nanotechology engineering and minoring in commerce

one more year and i grad... its not that i dont get high grades in here, but im saying that if i put the same amount of effort in arts or sauder, i will definately get better grades

Hey man, I wasn't aware ubc had nanotech program, just wondering how it is..

[tegz]

Oh, and... DONEZOS!

Off to co-op for a year I go :)

[crazyazn]

YEAHHHH DONE!!!! just finished econ301 today...better than i expected lol

seems like a few of you are in Chapple's class too...i was in the tues/thurs 330-5
how'd you guys do on the final?

[choda]

DONE LIKE DINNER BITCHESSSSSSSS

[CallTransOpt]

LOL Alien Children

[q0192837465]

Marks r coming out. I've decided not to check my marks until after new years

[MG1]

Here's part two.............. wait, this isn't the thread with the self breast exam post.......... oops.

nvm

I saw exam and................

[CP.AR]

YEAHHHH DONE!!!! just finished econ301 today...better than i expected lol

seems like a few of you are in Chapple's class too...i was in the tues/thurs 330-5
how'd you guys do on the final?

THe MC and T/F sections were a bit easier than I expected - but the short ans (last 2 questions) were OVERKILL

[twitchyzero]

Marks r coming out. I've decided not to check my marks until after new years

I'm doing the same...get to enjoy your break without feeling bad...and when you go back to school you're motivated to work harder if the marks are poor

[van_driver]

BUMP!

how's everyone's schedule like this year?
I've got 4 in the next week :(

[choda]

Done undergrad Dec 13 :D

[Mizter]

BUMP!

how's everyone's schedule like this year?
I've got 4 in the next week :(

I have all 6 of mine next week.. :cry:

[dark0821]

hey at least you get it dealth with...
mine starts on the 8th....

[!oHenry]

Started today, have 4 more this week. I really shouldn't be on rs right now....

[woob]

1/5

raped it.

[Sir_Loin]

2 on the 15th and 2 more on the 17th and 18th.

[noTirl]

one every 3 days starting this friday

[shenmecar]

My finals are after the christmas break. Studying during the break = fail. =(

[Cereal Killer]

I've only got 2 this semester. One on Wednesday and the other on Saturday. Can't wait to get them over with.

Curious question: Do you guys have any rituals before/when writing exams?

I usually stop studying/cramming 15 minutes before an exam begins and "pump up" with a Linkin Park song.

[J-Chow]

two take home paper final exams, and one final on campus. YEAAAH.

[BaoTurbo]

a bunch...thur,friday,mon,friday. clubbing or not to go clubbing is the question

[twitchyzero]

my first exam is in 15 hours..only 3 this year..finishing on 17th

[dbaz]

my last is on the 20th or 23rd think its the 20th fml

[hiGh_RollA]

last on the 9th...had one last week already lol

[danizer]

first year of university..getting prepped
2 in a row 8,9th
8 DAY BREAK
17th 20,21st....maaangggggggg

[murmur]

i am waiting for my marks for
bus 360w, business communication, aka one of SFU'S MOST STUBBORN and DIFFICULT BUSINESS COURSES.

anxiety as times go. :(:rolleyes:

[CP.AR]

*sigh* exams are here.... yet all day im on RS....

[woob]

2/5.

2 tomorrow, 1 more on Friday.


yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhh

[TheKingdom2000]

people still use MSN?

[dark0821]

lol.. very noob or just gettin very old...... but ya.. i still rely on msn =.=