[Vansterdam]

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Starting February 1st there will be 100 surveillance cameras recording throughout downtown Vancouver as part of the Olympic security plan. The city says they will be monitored for public safety, crime prevention, property protection, and incidents that need a police or emergency response.

Areas under surveillance include Robson and Granville Streets, Yaletown, and both downtown LiveCity sites.

Although there will be signs alerting people if they are in a monitored area, the camera’s aren’t sitting well with everyone on the streets of Vancouver.

This man doesn’t like the idea. “I feel like it’s a complete invasion of my privacy.”

Others aren’t concerned. “Probably if you’re going to commit a crime, you know where the CCTV cameras are. And if you’re not going to commit a crime there’s nothing to worry about.”

Footage will be kept anywhere between 30 days and one year. The city says the cameras will be taken down after March 28th but some of the infrastructure will remain in place.



http://www.news1130.com/more.jsp?content=20091207_221328_7228



anyone else got a feeling they won't take the cameras down after the 28th like they say they would

[spyker]

The cameras won't be going anywhere after the games,the olympics is just a excuse to put them up.

They will most likely come up with a excuse like "it cost too much money to take them down" or "they are already in place,why not keep them there".

[maxx]

pfff.. you peeps havent been to london

[nns]

This man doesn’t like the idea. “I feel like it’s a complete invasion of my privacy.”

Your privacy, in public..? :rolleyes:

[StylinRed]

The cameras aren't going to be any help... look at London there's cameras everywhere and crime persists, its abundant even.

I get the feeling they won't take them down as well... but i hope they will..



didn't they bring in a new weapon to combat any potential rioters? like some sort of sound device? heard on the radio but i cant recall

[CP.AR]

if it's only downtown - by all means I actually support it, i used to work the nightshift in DT Passport Office, and damn it was scary at night waiting for the bus.

[impactX]

There's privacy in the public?

[johny]

pfff.. you peeps havent been to london

the UK has like a million cameras now. and not a single crime has been sovled with them. london's crime rate has gone sky high in the past 10 years. (starting exactly when they baned guns from the public....)

[4444]

the UK has like a million cameras now. and not a single crime has been sovled with them. london's crime rate has gone sky high in the past 10 years. (starting exactly when they baned guns from the public....)

you are talking out of your rear end

they are everywhere there, and have been ued to find murders, rapists, robbers, etc - without the footage of 'suspects' many crimes would have either been not solved or not solved as quickly

are they going to do much? no - but i can't help buy feel its a good thing - you only have something to worry if you're up to no good

[JSALES]

i have a feeling they won't take down the cameras after the olympics are done

[wahyinghung]

Yeah they say they'll need it for the fireworks in the summer, gay parade etc............

[StylinRed]

you only have something to worry if you're up to no good


that's the typical ignorant response

[seakrait]

didn't they bring in a new weapon to combat any potential rioters? like some sort of sound device? heard on the radio but i cant recall
it's not a weapon. it's not a sonic gun. it's not anywhere as cool as that. this whole sonic weapon is really a communication device, specifically an LRAD (long-range accoustical device). think of it as a amp'd up bullhorn/megaphone that can transmit clearly an officer's commands to a large crowd in a large area. just imagine the last time you heard someone on a bullhorn, could you hear them really clearly?

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/11/26/vancouver-police-buy-sonic-gun/

the reason why they say it's a weapon is because it can make that same feedback noise that a regular bullhorn can, only much much louder ... and the philly police dept used that against protestors at the september g20 summit and now all the civil liberty poeple are up in arms against the LRAD.


As for the original topic, you have NO expectation of privacy in a public place. that's the legal opinion anyway. you're out and about so anyone around you can see you. the tricky part comes when people are able to get their hands on these surveillance videos (be it by legal means or otherwise) and post them for everyone else to see. i think the legal opinion would still state that there is no expectation of privacy but you'd be screwed if you wife saw you on the video with your girlfriend. that's when censoring for privacy comes into play.

[silk]

these dont phase me, i dont mind seeing more stupid videos get upload onto youtube

[E=mc²]

you only have something to worry if you're up to no good
that's the typical ignorant response

well there IS some truth to it

[Vansterdam]

Yeah they say they'll need it for the fireworks in the summer, gay parade etc............

:werd: :gayfight: those gay parades sure get preety crazy these days :gayfight:

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

The cameras aren't going to be any help... look at London there's cameras everywhere and crime persists, its abundant even.

there will always be crime, unless you have an totalitarian government, and even then.

crime won't go away.

those cameras in london help a lot. they help solve crimes, they don't stop it, they provide evidence.

[J____]

about time.

[nack]

:werd: :gayfight: those gay parades sure get preety crazy these days :gayfight:

we should pull a "russia" on those gay parades

[GLOW]

i'd rather see my tax $ spent on this than some stupid bike lane...or dam canada line

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

tats a lot of money they are spending on those 100 cameras

[woob]

fuck. I'm gonna have to wear a mask this year.

[Unagi]

Interesting

[nack]

fuck. I'm gonna have to wear a mask this year.

you already are :haha:

[q0192837465]

is it legal to wear a mask in public? like a bonaclava?

[4444]

that's the typical ignorant response

why? i have no beef with CCTV, grew up iwth it in england, did not directly affect me in hte slightest - kept my schools safe from paedo's (perimeters were always watched)

if i were up to no good, i'd want to be away from these camera's simple as that, no ignorance here

[EmperorIS]

these camera can be streamed?
<3 watching chicks walk by

[spyker]

is it legal to wear a mask in public? like a bonaclava?

Nope.

But you will be drawing alot of unwanted attention to yourself.

[woob]

the unabomber look is gonna be in this feb.

[124Y]

these camera can be streamed?
<3 watching chicks walk by

Especially during the summer :lol damnnn

[nack]

Especially during the summer :lol damnnn

JB's in short shorts and tank tops :thumbsup:

[willystyle]

I don't know see what the big deal is with these cameras. They are installed in a PUBLIC place, which means, your action is for ANYONE to see. If you don't want to be observed, stay home.

[antonito]

I'd be more concerned if these hundred weren't a tiny drop in the bucket of the massive network of cameras that record us daily in businesses, transit areas, etc, etc, all of which can already be accessed by the government if they so choose.

[spoon.ek9]

pfff.. you peeps havent been to london

Your privacy, in public..? :rolleyes:

my thoughts exactly.

while the cameras can't actually prevent crimes from happening it at least gives clues as to what happened with a visual representation rather than spotty witness testimonies.

[CP.AR]

RS meet in front of these cameras?

back on topic:

I hope that these cameras - if they decide to keep them, can get incorporated into the BC Road camera network. That way, they can double as traffic cams to keep the roads flowing.


Oh yeah, and about the privacy in public thing:
"Public privacy" is a contradiction. "Public" and "Privacy" are in a sense, complete opposites of each other