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UN Gang leader Clayton Roueche sentenced to 30 years in prison
Vansterdam
12-16-2009, 08:01 PM
http://www.news1130.com/more.jsp?content=20091216_181415_5388
SEATTLE (NEWS1130) - UN Gang leader Clayton Roueche has been sentenced in Seattle to 30 years in prison on drug and money laundering charges.
The judge handed down exactly the sentence prosecutors were after, a length of time Roueche's lawyer calls 'excessive'. His lawyer wanted a 15 to 20 year sentence. The Seattle Times reports federal prosecutors called Roueche "an extraordinarily dangerous, remorseless defendant" in documents submitted before his in U.S. District Court.
Prosecutors say Roueche, 34, had been running a continent-wide drug ring, which brought marijuana south from B.C. and cash and cocaine up north. They are also confident Roueche's gang is responsible for a list of violent crimes.
Roueche's lawyer says Roueche has never been convicted of a serious crime and there's no evidence Roueche had anything to do with murders begin blamed on the UN Gang.
411ken
12-16-2009, 08:04 PM
Wow...he'll get out when he's 64... can you imagine that? LOL.. you will be in prison for 30 years lol..
Time to replace him.. i guess
Leopold Stotch
12-16-2009, 08:17 PM
i wonder how many years he's lived on top.
i bet it's not worth the 30 in jail
spyker
12-16-2009, 08:33 PM
My friends brother who was part of this drug ring got sentenced over a year ago for his involvement,he is currently serving 15 years in a Utah prison.
InvisibleSoul
12-16-2009, 08:41 PM
30 year sentence means he should be out in 10 years or so?
murd0c
12-16-2009, 08:44 PM
30 year sentence means he should be out in 10 years or so?
not in the US, they actually have a justice system unlike Canada's lackluster sentence's. Alot of people behind bars in the US are there for little crimes but at least when someone does get caught for something large they won't be out in 1/3 of there sentence like here.
El Bastardo
12-16-2009, 09:00 PM
My friends brother who was part of this drug ring got sentenced over a year ago for his involvement,he is currently serving 15 years in a Utah prison.
Sounds like trash befriends trash. What a great social circle you run with.
Qmx323
12-16-2009, 09:02 PM
hoho zing ^
yeah good thing he's american, if he was here he'd probably get a 10 year sentence and be dealing again
edit* wait what? is clayton canadian or american!?!
Hondaracer
12-16-2009, 09:21 PM
if i was going in for 30 years i'd kill myself
i'd tell guards, judge, etc. if this is whats going down i'm going to kill myself period
30 years in prison aint worth living through.
murd0c
12-16-2009, 09:27 PM
hoho zing ^
yeah good thing he's american, if he was here he'd probably get a 10 year sentence and be dealing again
edit* wait what? is clayton canadian or american!?!
Canadian,
Went To Mexico to meet with a supplier
US knew stopped plane on flight back
He was arrested and got 30yrs
Cman333
12-16-2009, 09:36 PM
Better article
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/United+Nations+gang+leader+Clay+Roueche+sentenced+ years/2348698/story.html
El Bastardo
12-16-2009, 09:38 PM
Canadian,
Went To Mexico to meet with a supplier
US knew stopped plane on flight back
He was arrested and got 30yrs
Canada shares its flight manifests with the US for special occasions like this.
Harvey Specter
12-16-2009, 09:49 PM
Thank the United States for cleaning up Canada's shit.
Manic!
12-16-2009, 09:53 PM
Canadian,
Went To Mexico to meet with a supplier
US knew stopped plane on flight back
He was arrested and got 30yrs
He went to Mexico for a buddy's wedding. Mexican boarder guards would not let him and but him on a plane that stopped in the US.
91LS-VTak
12-16-2009, 09:54 PM
30 years? even murderers don't get that here in Canada. Good job U.S., get rid of this scum becuase our courts won't do it!
spyker
12-16-2009, 10:34 PM
if i was going in for 30 years i'd kill myself
i'd tell guards, judge, etc. if this is whats going down i'm going to kill myself period
30 years in prison aint worth living through.
You never tell a judge or gaurd that,if you do,the judge will send you to a insane asylum and lock you up in a rubber room for the rest of your life and make you wear one of those cool white jackets that wrap your arms to your back.
3seriesBeeM
12-16-2009, 10:43 PM
good job at least the states know how to hand down sentences. If he were caught in Canada he would be out in 5 years
Roach
12-16-2009, 10:48 PM
Does anyone actually believe the UN gang will cease to exist as a result of this conviction?
Hell no.
The problem isn't the gangs. The problem is government policy on marijuana.
Kev
spyker
12-16-2009, 10:59 PM
Does anyone actually believe the UN gang will cease to exist as a result of this conviction?
Hell no.
The problem isn't the gangs. The problem is government policy on marijuana.
Kev
Pretty sure someone has already taken his place in the gang.Long as there is money to be made,someone is willing to take his place.
The biggest problem is the relaxed laws in B.C if a person is caught with marijauna.People know they will get a slap on the wrist and no jail time if they get caught with it,so the rewards far exceed the punishment "if" they get caught.
MR_BIGGS
12-16-2009, 11:08 PM
So he got an American sentence. Will the justice system here in Canada come down hard on the Bacon guy now that the US has somewhat set a standard?
Its 2/3's in Canada not 1/3.
spyker
12-17-2009, 12:35 AM
So he got an American sentence. Will the justice system here in Canada come down hard on the Bacon guy now that the US has somewhat set a standard?
Not anytime soon anyways.
Some U.S states have a "3 stikes" rule,here in Canada,that rule does not exist.
Meowjin
12-17-2009, 01:08 AM
Sounds like trash befriends trash. What a great social circle you run with.
careful he'll call his cousins, his cousins cousins, all
m4k4v4li
12-17-2009, 01:33 AM
revolving door justice system ftl
The_AK
12-17-2009, 02:26 AM
You never tell a judge or gaurd that,if you do,the judge will send you to a insane asylum and lock you up in a rubber room for the rest of your life and make you wear one of those cool white jackets that wrap your arms to your back.
this is sig worthy LOL
Pretty sure someone has already taken his place in the gang.Long as there is money to be made,someone is willing to take his place.
The biggest problem is the relaxed laws in B.C if a person is caught with marijauna.People know they will get a slap on the wrist and no jail time if they get caught with it,so the rewards far exceed the punishment "if" they get caught.
agreed, the justice system seems to be quite leniant in Canada. Wasn't there a ecstacy bust not too long ago that resulted in 2 guys being freed as long as they dont go to any raves? what kinda bullcrap is that?
StylinRed
12-17-2009, 03:39 AM
1. he's not the real boss
2. he can request to serve his sentence in Canada, then he can get out early
3. the US justice system is BS... but thats a whooooooooollle other thread
4. he's gonna get raped rofl
agreed, the justice system seems to be quite leniant in Canada. Wasn't there a ecstacy bust not too long ago that resulted in 2 guys being freed as long as they dont go to any raves? what kinda bullcrap is that?
god you guys are so retarded.... they weren't released let go no further trial.... ITS A FUCKING BAIL CONDITION, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND FACE A TRIAL
Vansterdam
12-17-2009, 06:25 AM
At a news conference afterwards, U.S. Attorney Jenny Durkan said her office would oppose any attempt by Roueche to transfer back to Canada to serve his sentence.
She said normally any offender in the U.S. serves at least 85 percent of his or her sentence.
StylinRed
12-17-2009, 06:30 AM
Yeah i remember reading that, it'd be cool if they're successful in stopping his transfer to Canada but the DA doesn't have much say in that
Supafly
12-17-2009, 07:21 AM
in canada, if you get caught with a concealed firearm; its a one night stay in a holding cell and a one day court trial that results in a some fines and restrictions...
in USA, if you get caught with a firearm; you get a 10 yr sentence..
true story.
XxFcukxX
12-17-2009, 07:24 AM
and people still fuck around in the states..
Great68
12-17-2009, 07:39 AM
Hell no.
The problem isn't the gangs. The problem is government policy on marijuana.
Kev
I agree it's a government policy problem, but a thanks or fail depends on which direction you think the policy should change...
Mugen EvOlutioN
12-17-2009, 08:04 AM
in canada, if you get caught with a concealed firearm; its a one night stay in a holding cell and a one day court trial that results in a some fines and restrictions...
in USA, if you get caught with a firearm; you get a 10 yr sentence..
true story.
:eek::eek: didnt know our justice system is this weak
i mean i know its weak, but this is ridiculous
hotjoint
12-17-2009, 08:33 AM
good shit, dont let him back in canada even after his prison bid is over...
Hondaracer
12-17-2009, 09:17 AM
You never tell a judge or gaurd that,if you do,the judge will send you to a insane asylum and lock you up in a rubber room for the rest of your life and make you wear one of those cool white jackets that wrap your arms to your back.
Then I'll bite my wrists through the jacket
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StylinRed
12-17-2009, 09:50 AM
in canada, if you get caught with a concealed firearm; its a one night stay in a holding cell and a one day court trial that results in a some fines and restrictions...
in USA, if you get caught with a firearm; you get a 10 yr sentence..
true story.
:eek::eek: didnt know our justice system is this weak
i mean i know its weak, but this is ridiculous
you face a possibility of a fine or 5-10 fucken years in Jail in Canada (max) depending on the conditions..... jesus christ
download the criminal code its free and in pdf format on the department of justice canada website
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/
carrying weapons charges starts around the 80s-90s
in the states they hand out Concealed Carry Weapon permits faster than drivers licenses (heck just type concealed weapon united states in google, even if u type illegal in the search string all you get are links on how to get permits and links on how the law is making it easier for ppl to get/carry concealed weapons)
Mkhun
12-17-2009, 10:04 AM
hope he's not coming back after 30 yrs..
Supafly
12-17-2009, 10:08 AM
you face a possibility of a fine or 5-10 fucken years in Jail in Canada (max) depending on the conditions..... jesus christ
download the criminal code its free and in pdf format on the department of justice canada website
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/
carrying weapons charges starts around the 80s-90s
in the states they hand out Concealed Carry Weapon permits faster than drivers licenses (heck just type concealed weapon united states in google, even if u type illegal in the search string all you get are links on how to get permits and links on how the law is making it easier for ppl to get/carry concealed weapons)
have you been through the system?...whats written and what happens is two diffrent playing feilds..
StylinRed
12-17-2009, 10:29 AM
im very involved in this 'system' you speak of; i was involved as a volunteer worker and student and for my career
you distort the facts and when confronted you're still trying to keep the bs alive..
at first i thought you were ignorant but now its obvious you have an ulterior motive
spyker
12-17-2009, 01:16 PM
:eek::eek: didnt know our justice system is this weak
i mean i know its weak, but this is ridiculous
Our justice system is extremely weak,all the criminals around the world know it too.That's why they all flock here to do business.
spyker
12-17-2009, 01:25 PM
Then I'll bite my wrists through the jacket
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That would be funny to see.
A guy I know,he works for Riverview hospital,he's a nurse/security there.
Whenever he throws a party,he lets the crowd know that whoever decides to leave and drive drunk will be wearing this tonight,locked in a room(he holds up the straight jacket for everyone to see).
It works pretty well,only 3 people have ever worn it.
SlySi
12-17-2009, 01:42 PM
Then I'll bite my wrists through the jacket
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lol
ToneCapone
12-17-2009, 02:28 PM
in canada, if you get caught with a concealed firearm; its a one night stay in a holding cell and a one day court trial that results in a some fines and restrictions...
in USA, if you get caught with a firearm; you get a 10 yr sentence..
true story.
yeah... no. 2 friends of mine got busted, one took the blame, served a year (This was like 4-5 years ago).
Canada is not that lax to only give u fines... I would say Jail time is guaranteed but the length depends on the circumstances.
adambomb
12-17-2009, 09:43 PM
http://www.theprovince.com/news/EXCLUSIVE+Clayton+Roueche+proud+never+rolled+over/2353789/story.html
UPDATE:
Clayton Roueche's dad is proud his son not a rat.
JSALES
12-17-2009, 09:47 PM
http://www.theprovince.com/news/EXCLUSIVE+Clayton+Roueche+proud+never+rolled+over/2353789/story.html
UPDATE:
Clayton Roueche's dad is proud his son not a rat.
wow haha
ilvtofu
12-17-2009, 10:09 PM
Don't hate the playa hate the game. Well actually hate both :D
azzurro32
12-17-2009, 10:32 PM
Damn 30 years! That's gotta suck hearing that from the judge. Like a kick in the stomach.
Maybe in few years we see him on Locked Up
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1990TSI
12-17-2009, 10:47 PM
All I know about the candian law system, is that one of my best friends 15 year old brother was murdered, and the killer, with a history of violence only did 3 years time. The kicker, is he did more than half of it BEFORE his court date, in his home, then was let off on good behavior.
I'm not sure he did more than 6 months in jail, for stabbing a 15 year old to death, at 19, with a history of violence.
makes you want to kill someone, as long as you aren't street racing while doing so....
ericpoker
12-18-2009, 12:50 AM
im very involved in this 'system' you speak of; i was involved as a volunteer worker and student and for my career
you distort the facts and when confronted you're still trying to keep the bs alive..
at first i thought you were ignorant but now its obvious you have an ulterior motive
DUDE are you an undercover cop or something??? if so GTFO.
Supafly
12-18-2009, 06:22 AM
im very involved in this 'system' you speak of; i was involved as a volunteer worker and student and for my career
you distort the facts and when confronted you're still trying to keep the bs alive..
at first i thought you were ignorant but now its obvious you have an ulterior motive
when i say "been through the system" i mean being on the criminal side. Im put my 2cents in because i certainly have "been through the system" and got released on a few fines and an overnighter in the VPD cell followed by a court date a month later to only get a slap on the wrist...
Im not proud of my history, but i can say that when you get caught with a concealed weapon ( ie. loaded firearm) the justice system wont really come down hard if it's your first offense. A good lawyer will also get your charges dropped regardless if you are truely guilty or not.
btw, can you not have a debate without name being such a douche ?..I think you need to do a bit more research in the database and pull up some files and get a real look on case studies...You clearly dont have any experience in the feild you say you "volunteer" in.. read a pdf file, and you think you're king shit.
Skyliner
12-18-2009, 09:17 AM
when i say "been through the system" i mean being on the criminal side. Im put my 2cents in because i certainly have "been through the system" and got released on a few fines and an overnighter in the VPD cell followed by a court date a month later to only get a slap on the wrist...
Im not proud of my history, but i can say that when you get caught with a concealed weapon ( ie. loaded firearm) the justice system wont really come down hard if it's your first offense. A good lawyer will also get your charges dropped regardless if you are truely guilty or not.
btw, can you not have a debate without name being such a douche ?..I think you need to do a bit more research in the database and pull up some files and get a real look on case studies...You clearly dont have any experience in the feild you say you "volunteer" in.. read a pdf file, and you think you're king shit.
Supafly is right on this, I've seen this happened too many times with my friends/acquaintances.
Skyliner
12-18-2009, 09:22 AM
and u know why so many drug dealers end up with no money at the end? It's cuz they have to spend a huge chunk of them on lawyers so that they can stay out of jail. It's kinda stupid if you ask me, those dd's look so flashy with all their money but it's probably ALL they had during that moment. Most of it would be spent on a good lawyer and there are tons of those shady lawyers around (again, source is from my dd friends/acquaintances). It's sickening and disppointing to see that our justice system is so relaxed even though many of my friends do that shit.
StylinRed
12-18-2009, 10:32 AM
when i say "been through the system" i mean being on the criminal side. Im put my 2cents in because i certainly have "been through the system" and got released on a few fines and an overnighter in the VPD cell followed by a court date a month later to only get a slap on the wrist...
Im not proud of my history, but i can say that when you get caught with a concealed weapon ( ie. loaded firearm) the justice system wont really come down hard if it's your first offense. A good lawyer will also get your charges dropped regardless if you are truely guilty or not.
btw, can you not have a debate without name being such a douche ?..I think you need to do a bit more research in the database and pull up some files and get a real look on case studies...You clearly dont have any experience in the feild you say you "volunteer" in.. read a pdf file, and you think you're king shit.
this is rs
see you're confusing the facts of the system, the sentencing depends entirely on the circumstances (and yes how well the lawyer can assert those circumstances)
as i pointed out, you can either face a fine or 5-10 years in jail, even if its your first offense
its the same everywhere... in terms of guns things are more lax in the united states as i pointed out. If you're stupid enough not to get a CCW permit in the US then you also face various sentences and jail time (depending on the state and your lawyer)
as for my experience i was trying to point out the spectrum of sides i have witnessed without getting into what i actually do.
when i volunteered counseling/etc i heard witnessed stories from those very people who have been charged
for my studies, i've studied case law, law, and worked in a criminal law office (for school)
4. he's gonna get raped rofl
On June 16, 2009, the Court authorized defendant’s transfer from the Federal Detention
Center in SeaTac, Washington to the United States Penitentiary in Marion, Illinois pending
sentencing,1 noting that defendant “poses security and safety risks to the orderly running” of the
SeaTac facility.
http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/print.aspx?postid=532255
In other words he was transferred to a higher security prison because he was considered a threat to other inmates. I highly doubt he will be getting raped. You're fucking retarded.
StylinRed
12-18-2009, 11:46 AM
rofl u must know him
if u think he's tough good for you, but more than likely they're sending him to a "hard" prison just so he gets fucked
and in reality that he's too close to home so he'll get visitors from vancouver constantly and he may still be able to operate his own lil business even behind bars
The7even
12-18-2009, 12:33 PM
not in the US, they actually have a justice system unlike Canada's lackluster sentence's. Alot of people behind bars in the US are there for little crimes but at least when someone does get caught for something large they won't be out in 1/3 of there sentence like here.
Bwahahahaha... Yeah... no..
Our system is just as bad. Trust me .
Ulic Qel-Droma
12-18-2009, 12:53 PM
hm or, in a harder prison he'll meet harder people with more connections. kinda like facebook, but prisonbook. lol.
It's pretty upsetting when someone does something bad then you aren't satisfied with their lenient sentence... but i think we're all forgetting the justice system isn't there to please the public, it's to rehabilitate the person in question. if it were, we'd still be living in medieval france, we'd just cut everyone's head off that committed a crime that made us angry. in some ways we should still be doing that, but then i guess one day you're gonna accidentally do something bad, and when you're up for justice, you're gonna piss your pants and wish you got a slap on the wrist, and you'd probably never do whatever you did again anyways. the humiliation and record of you being in prison or committing a crime is already punishment enough, it's a lifetime you have to carry that label around with you.
it costs over 60 grand a year to keep a person in prison. I'd rather not pay that kind of money.
racerman88
12-18-2009, 01:31 PM
you have to pay to play if you get caught
rofl u must know him
if u think he's tough good for you, but more than likely they're sending him to a "hard" prison just so he gets fucked
and that he's too close to home so he'll get visitors from vancouver constantly and he may still be able to operate his own lil business even behind bars
Actually I don't know him. However I did read that article from the link I posted and thought you might find it interesting because it relates to your immature comment. If you think it's good for me that I think he's tough then that's fantastic. I just read that he was really into martial arts even from when he was younger and then after reading that article it further exemplified the fact that he is considered a dangerous inmate. I don't think they are transferring him to Illinois because they are trying to get some big black guy to try and fuck him. He is a human not a dog.
Furthermore, I highly doubt that any visitor would be willing to risk themselves to conduct any verbal discussions regarding his "business" over a recorded visit. You are so dumb lol
How many times have you been to jail? You don't know a thing about it except the bullshit you see on TV. You are probably some fucking geek who lives at his parents house who sits on his fat ass and plays warcraft till 5 am.
Failing my posts makes me laugh. It's like throwing a middle finger at a 5 year old.
StylinRed
12-18-2009, 03:56 PM
ahahahaha god ur clueless
u obviously have no clue how often people discuss "business" during a jail visit
and its quite clear you're in love with roueche the douche
you can continue being an e-thug its not gonna lead you anywhere
and i love giving the middle finger to 5 year olds
Yes because you have gone to jail so many times and you have talked to other inmates about what they are talking to their friends about. This is how you know, right? You are obviously too caught up in the film industry because the film industry depicts an incredibly accurate example of real life. You do know that when you are in jail, you can actually make phone calls? You know, with a telephone. Yea you get a phone card and you can load it up with minutes or else you can make a collect call. Also the calls are all recorded. So even if he was in Washington state, or Illinois, he could still talk to his friends from BC. So transferring him to Illinois really doesn't make it any farther away because he can still use the phone, right? You are aware of this I hope.
What is your mom making for dinner tonight?
StylinRed
12-19-2009, 04:34 PM
you do realize if they really thought he was a physical threat, they would just lock him up in solitary right?
you should also have noted that the jail that he's being transferred to specifically states that they monitor all conversations, which would suggest that is not true with say the seatac prison
are you really that retarded in thinking this overweight pos is actually so much of a physical threat that they would send this inmate to a prison on the other side of the country???
and if you've read my other posts in this thread you should have been able to surmise how i would have more knowledge on how idiotic and loose lipped inmates are.
you've got his cock shoved down your throat so far that its made you blind
i'm sure the thought of your boyfriend getting sexed up by tyrone offends you but you're going to have to deal with it and move on
edit: oh and thanks for providing me a 5yr old to fail again
KingCrimson
12-19-2009, 05:39 PM
if i was going in for 30 years i'd kill myself
i'd tell guards, judge, etc. if this is whats going down i'm going to kill myself period
30 years in prison aint worth living through.
Some would say its about the pride and respect you get
Hondaracer
12-19-2009, 06:31 PM
Some would say its about the pride and respect you get
lol, the people who would see that pride/respect in that sentance arent worth living for.
ynot-llat
12-19-2009, 07:52 PM
"with jelly or without jelly, i prefer syrup"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac7-ZGKayE0
XxFcukxX
12-19-2009, 08:04 PM
rofl he says , let him eat me .... WE STRAIGHT... AHAHHA
StylinRed
12-19-2009, 08:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GosQNv5EUps
boss of the numbers gang
MelonBoy
12-20-2009, 01:05 AM
if i was going in for 30 years i'd kill myself
i'd tell guards, judge, etc. if this is whats going down i'm going to kill myself period
30 years in prison aint worth living through.
30 years isnt that much :P compared to other gang leaders..
Arent the the mexician gang leaders or w/e sentenced to life-time jail but they still control the gang from the inside.. (influence others to do shit and keep the gang moving)
will068
12-20-2009, 07:05 AM
I bit off topic. I saw a couple last night at the movies @ the ScotiaBank theater in DT where the guy was wearing a UN hoody. Makes me wonder, aren't you just asking for trouble from rival gang members or from cops who sees you in public. Either that or I'm just paranoid being caught in the crossfire of a shooting.
Gridlock
12-20-2009, 08:56 AM
I was reading the province the other day and this father was saying that he was proud of him for not turning informant on the rest of his gang like his partners and that the charges were trumped up. He didn't have a lot of money and had a 400k mortgage on his condo.
It was scary that he was raised in this household. No wonder he became what he became. I can't imagine my mother discussing my potential hit on another gang leader with pride.
I can do what I want-but I would be disowned by my family. Man, she'd testify against me.
We need to raise our children better.
you do realize if they really thought he was a physical threat, they would just lock him up in solitary right?
are you really that retarded in thinking this overweight pos is actually so much of a physical threat that they would send this inmate to a prison on the other side of the country???
But that is what the article said. If you read it. It specifically said that. So it's not what I think, but what the article said. I don't know how else to put it. I was simply reiterating what the article had mentioned. What part of the article did you not understand???
You can't just lock someone up in solitary confinement for shits and giggles. Inmates have rights, too.
penner2k
12-20-2009, 01:08 PM
Yes because you have gone to jail so many times and you have talked to other inmates about what they are talking to their friends about. This is how you know, right? You are obviously too caught up in the film industry because the film industry depicts an incredibly accurate example of real life. You do know that when you are in jail, you can actually make phone calls? You know, with a telephone. Yea you get a phone card and you can load it up with minutes or else you can make a collect call. Also the calls are all recorded. So even if he was in Washington state, or Illinois, he could still talk to his friends from BC. So transferring him to Illinois really doesn't make it any farther away because he can still use the phone, right? You are aware of this I hope.
What is your mom making for dinner tonight?
My guess is the reason they moved him is cuz there would be too many connections in the Seattle prison. Obviously he would be working together with gangs in Washington. I doubt he has many connections in Illinois. Makes it harder to keep doing business.
I totally agree with that but how come Rob Shannon got to stay in Seattle when he plead guilty to smuggling over 1700 pounds of cocaine, 7000 pounds of marijuana and 3.5m in cash. He is serving 20 years. He smuggled drugs from Washington state to BC.
penner2k
12-20-2009, 08:23 PM
Rob Shannon is just a drug mule.. He knows ppl for sure but he wasnt really running anything.
StylinRed
12-20-2009, 10:22 PM
You can't just lock someone up in solitary confinement for shits and giggles. Inmates have rights, too.
rofl shits & giggles? that would imply he's not a threat then (the whole point of solitary is to segregate ppl who are a danger to others; a danger to themselves; or in danger.
In the United States they have people who've been in solitary for years and years (tookie williams for instance, 6.5 years in solitary)
as for in Canada have you heard about that Bacon brother in North Fraser? they've had him in solitary since he's been in there.. his lawyer says he has psychological problems now because he's been alone too long (they've gone to court to try and get him out of there)
they have him in solitary for his own protection because the people in there are just waiting to beat the shit out of him
in all honesty it sounds like you have skewed perception of the system
7seven
12-21-2009, 06:24 AM
My guess is the reason they moved him is cuz there would be too many connections in the Seattle prison. Obviously he would be working together with gangs in Washington. I doubt he has many connections in Illinois. Makes it harder to keep doing business.
Seems that the "safety and security risks" the Board of Prisons were concerned with was a plot to escape that "involved explosives and if necessary killing guards."
B.C. gangster moved to Illinois jail: sources
He is one of British Columbia's most notorious gangsters, but even though Clayton Roueche is in jail, he is allegedly still causing trouble. CTV News has learned that U.S. authorities decided to move Roueche to a new prison because of an alleged plot to escape.
Sources have told CTV News that Roueche allegedly hatched a plan to break out of Seatac detention facility in Seattle, where he was being held on drug smuggling charges.
Canadian police say Roueche is the leader of the UN Gang, one of B.C.'s most violent drug gangs.
And sources say he had an alleged accomplice, another Canadian housed in the same jail, named Luke Elliot Sommer.
Last December, Sommer was sentenced to 24 years in prison, after he robbed a bank in Tacoma, commando style.
Sommer was trained as a U.S. Army ranger.
According to court documents, Sommer recruited his army buddies to pull off the heist.
Surveillance pictures of the robbery show men armed with AK 47 assault rifles.
" I can't remember in my 29 years where five people possibly with military backgrounds were involved in a crime of this sort,'' Chris Taylor of the Tacoma Police said.
After that robbery, Sommer was arrested near Kelowna and sent back to Washington State.
Sources say Sommer and Roueche became acquainted while in jail at Seatac.
The alleged prison break plot apparently involved explosives and if necessary killing guards.
Seatac officials won't comment.
But in a court document, they admit Roueche posed a security and safety risk to the orderly running of the federal detention centre.
So Roueche has now been moved to a high security prison in Illinois.
With a report by CTV British Columbia's Lisa Rossington
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090630/BC_clay_roueche_plot_090630?hub=BritishColumbiaHom e
StylinRed
12-21-2009, 06:46 AM
sounds like they should be more concerned about Sommers
who btw is a little crazy after supposedly being in Iraq (according to him)
and had a hard time in North Fraser pre-trial
El Bastardo
12-21-2009, 11:28 AM
So transferring him to Illinois really doesn't make it any farther away because he can still use the phone, right? You are aware of this I hope.?
I heard from a reliable source (Phone call from Clayton himself) that he requested to be moved to Illinois because nobody had a cock big enough to satisfy his ass. Clayton calls me because he wants my man meat I keep telling him I'm saving myself for some "Canadian Bacon" know what I mean guys?
No homo (Except for Clayton. Hes a big homo)
MWR34
12-21-2009, 12:10 PM
I heard from a reliable source (Phone call from Clayton himself) that he requested to be moved to Illinois because nobody had a cock big enough to satisfy his ass. Clayton calls me because he wants my man meat I keep telling him I'm saving myself for some "Canadian Bacon" know what I mean guys?
No homo (Except for Clayton. Hes a big homo)
NO homo
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Mananetwork
12-21-2009, 12:25 PM
All I know about the candian law system, is that one of my best friends 15 year old brother was murdered, and the killer, with a history of violence only did 3 years time. The kicker, is he did more than half of it BEFORE his court date, in his home, then was let off on good behavior.
I'm not sure he did more than 6 months in jail, for stabbing a 15 year old to death, at 19, with a history of violence.
makes you want to kill someone, as long as you aren't street racing while doing so....
BWAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH~! :haha:
StaxBundlez
12-21-2009, 05:24 PM
damn, GG
as for in Canada have you heard about that Bacon brother in North Fraser? they've had him in solitary since he's been in there.. his lawyer says he has psychological problems now because he's been alone too long (they've gone to court to try and get him out of there)
icic. Yea I wonder where he will be moved once his trial is finished. Apparently he has a somewhat 'furnished' cell. Same with when Pickton was at North Fraser.
North Fraser is kinda diff from your normal jail tho. Each unit has different lock down times and what not but generally each unit has say 40-60 inmates and they alternate times they are allowed into the main area. Say your unit has 50 guys with 12 hr lockdown, you would alternate every few hrs with the other 25 guys. The point is, is that you just mingle with half the population of your unit in the main area.
High profile criminals yet to be sentenced such Bacon don't get to hang out in the units cuz they would just get harassed and cause problems to the unit. For example if there were some UN ppl in the same unit they would probably try to kill him lol. Hence the confinement to their own personal cells which are not within any unit.
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