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Bad dreams!
miss_crayon
12-29-2009, 05:14 PM
The past few weeks I have been having bad dreams night after night. My sleeping patterns have been super effed so I don't know if it has anything to do with that. I'll go to sleep, then maybe a couple hours later wake up from a terrible dream (super vivid) in a panic and sweating like crazy.
What's even worse is it'll happen at least twice a night/morning!! I went to my doctor and she said she thinks I might be suffering from a thyroid problem (sleeping soundly then waking up suddenly/sweating/anxiety etc etc). Anyone else have an idea of what it could be?
I have been under a lot of pressure lately with my career and some personal problems (but it's nothing I haven't dealt with before--maybe this time it's just a teense bit more hardcore)
Help!? Thanks!
Supafly
12-29-2009, 05:53 PM
time to tell your bf to buck up...so you will sleep more soundly.:D
on a serious note, don't stress yourself at work and in your personal life...if its affecting your sleeping habits and life so much, is your career or whatever it is worth it?
SkinnyPupp
12-29-2009, 07:16 PM
Could be stress, or could be thyroid/hormone related. If you doctor thinks it's thyroid, then she would have done a thyroid hormone test of some sort. Did she find anything?
Are you taking any supplements? Certain ones can give you crazy dreams. Everything from DMAE to Melatonin to 5-HTP to even Vitamin B6 can give you whacky dreams.
hirevtuner
12-29-2009, 08:04 PM
that's why stress balls are invented
maybe take 10-20 mins just doing nothing at night before you go to sleep
do you watch tv, use internet or read before you sleep?
Ulic Qel-Droma
12-29-2009, 08:12 PM
I wish I could have nightmares every night, or any kinda vivid dream.
I duno about you, every time I have a crazy nightmare, i wake up and i'm obviously startled, but after the anxiety and fear drops (really quickly), i kinda go "wow shit that was fuckin awesome!" then i go right back to bed, right after I write em down.
hal0g0dv2
12-29-2009, 09:19 PM
ohhhh
try jerking off to a good porn like ass parade or something like that
TOS'd
12-29-2009, 11:20 PM
If you ever find yourself up again, gimmi a call. ;)
miss_crayon
12-30-2009, 01:07 AM
time to tell your bf to buck up...so you will sleep more soundly.:D
on a serious note, don't stress yourself at work and in your personal life...if its affecting your sleeping habits and life so much, is your career or whatever it is worth it?
i'm actually single now so if the poster above is available..i am still up. :)
and to answer some questions above, my doctor is sending me to get a blood test done and i go back in 2 weeks. i am like the biggest pussy when it comes to needles and i would seriously rather get punched in the face than to get a test done. like f'serious! so even going to get the test done is going to be a stressful situation for me. but if i don't take it i know this is going to just drag on (bad dreams/having to face my fears/etc) i was taking a general b vitamin supplement that included b6, b12 (etc etc..) for awhile but stopped. maybe i should get back into it?
as for stressing over work and other problems, i feel like i'm under A LOT of pressure right now from family and myself. i have this huge exam to take and it's vital i pass because i need it for work. i stay up super late now because i am so busy during the day studying or going to class and virtually have zero time to think about anything else. so when i have downtime (like now) i'll check the net and then drift off to sleep...but probably waking up again in a couple of hours. UGH.
skinnypupp, can you explain what can cause a thyroid problem? or anyone who has this problem shed some light?
SkinnyPupp
12-30-2009, 01:57 AM
There's a lot of things that can cause thyroid problems, from Grave's Disease to cancer, to simple stress.
Wait for your blood work to come back, in all likelihood it's just stress. Pretty easy to take care of that.
SkinnyPupp
12-30-2009, 01:57 AM
I wish I could have nightmares every night, or any kinda vivid dream.
I duno about you, every time I have a crazy nightmare, i wake up and i'm obviously startled, but after the anxiety and fear drops (really quickly), i kinda go "wow shit that was fuckin awesome!" then i go right back to bed, right after I write em down.
Then you should look into the supplements that I mentioned. Just don't take them all at once ;)
Start with DMAE, supplemented with Choline. Good shit!
Gnomes
12-30-2009, 07:30 PM
Hmm... skinnypupp seems to be very knowledgeable with this sort of stuff - especially with the drugs :)
SkinnyPupp
12-30-2009, 09:26 PM
I was huge into dreams for quite a while. There are many other supplements to mess around with... Piracetam was a favourite, but expensive, required a "prescription", and a bit too 'hardcore' for my liking.
IMO DMAE and Choline are the best 'softcore' way to do it. If you already have high anxiety though, it's not a good idea
TOS'd
12-30-2009, 09:38 PM
i'm actually single now so if the poster above is available..i am still up. :)
Ring in the new year together?
welfare
01-01-2010, 10:47 AM
I was huge into dreams for quite a while. There are many other supplements to mess around with... Piracetam was a favourite, but expensive, required a "prescription", and a bit too 'hardcore' for my liking.
IMO DMAE and Choline are the best 'softcore' way to do it. If you already have high anxiety though, it's not a good idea
do you practice dreaming lucidly? or try to?
SkinnyPupp
01-01-2010, 11:10 AM
do you practice dreaming lucidly? or try to?
I have tried, but never found the 'tricks' to work very well. They just come when they come, which luckily for me is quite often :)
tiger_handheld
01-01-2010, 11:42 AM
i had the most crazy dream last night.
at my buddys house, all the windows had grills except for two. then this junky tries to climb in through one of the windows that didn't have a grill but we pushed him down. then there was a baby crying - apparently it was the junkys. then my friends n i were partying inside , when we hear noises. the junky came back with his buddies like 5 or 6 of them. his buddies were in camo gear with pistols. we flipped a table and blocked the unguarded window. pushed up a couch against the table as well - so it was harder to push over. we did not have guns. we defended ourselves using toilet paper ( I dont know how it happened ). we went on the roof ( dont know how ) n we threw toilet paper like how u do it in highschool , so it drapes n stuff. then a buddy of mine called 911. after a little while swat came down , and sniped out the junkys buddies. and then i woke up...
penner2k
01-01-2010, 01:56 PM
The worst is when I have a dream that actually takes place in my bedroom. Half the time I wake up and am freaking out cuz I'm not sure if what happened really happened.
I think I need to stop smoking weed before I goto bed.. lol
Mr.HappySilp
01-01-2010, 04:06 PM
Hmmm.... I used to experience what you have. Not from school but from work related. I would wake up in sweat and my hear is pounding against my chest and heavy breath. I would have no memory of my dreams though. This happen during a time when my old company is laying people left and right. Not to mention during that time I was having issue with my gf and family as well so that didn't help.
During that time I took tyneol to help me sleep lol (yes that super strong ones that will put a cow to sleep). It help a bit. To be honest I have no idea how I stop having those issue. I think I just stop thinking about it and it went away.
Try not to think about anything stressful before you go to sleep. Read a book or listen to some relaxing music should help.
welfare
01-01-2010, 06:07 PM
I have tried, but never found the 'tricks' to work very well. They just come when they come, which luckily for me is quite often :)
an ability which can take years, if ever, to develop, i'm sure. but what an amazing ability it would be. the mind and its perception of reality is a fascinating topic
penner2k
01-01-2010, 06:30 PM
an ability which can take years, if ever, to develop, i'm sure. but what an amazing ability it would be. the mind and its perception of reality is a fascinating topic
I agree with the mind being a fascinating topic.. That along with how the human body actually works is one thing I could never get sick of learning about or even talking about.
This one girl I know just finished her pych degree and we can sit there for hours talking about the brain.. lol
hirevtuner
01-01-2010, 09:28 PM
what's a dream that's really cloudy (can't really remember details) but when it happens like a week or so after that it reminds you that you dreamed it before/kinda knows what happens?
ie. dreaming about going in a coffee shop drinking coffee and bumping into a friend that you haven't seen for ages and then a few months it actually happens
I get that a lot, sometimes it is kind of annoying that when it happens (after the dream) you can't do anything about it but to realize it.
miss_crayon
01-01-2010, 09:52 PM
^deja vu
Djiban
01-01-2010, 11:26 PM
what's a dream that's really cloudy (can't really remember details) but when it happens like a week or so after that it reminds you that you dreamed it before/kinda knows what happens?
ie. dreaming about going in a coffee shop drinking coffee and bumping into a friend that you haven't seen for ages and then a few months it actually happens
I get that a lot, sometimes it is kind of annoying that when it happens (after the dream) you can't do anything about it but to realize it.
Actually it happened to me several times, well at least that's what i think. It's like in a particular situation, i suddenly recall that it ever happened to me somewhere sometime but i can't remember when and where...it's like i've seen something like this or been in this siituation before, then i realize that i had it in my dream..weird
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LiquidTurbo
01-03-2010, 05:51 PM
Read up about dreams. If you understand what psychologists think of dreams, you might be able to better diagnose yourself on the source of your bad dreams.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream
Kim Jong Un
01-03-2010, 06:23 PM
hump your pillows! it helps!
Ulic Qel-Droma
01-03-2010, 09:14 PM
Then you should look into the supplements that I mentioned. Just don't take them all at once ;)
Start with DMAE, supplemented with Choline. Good shit!
yeah I've looked into melatonin. Tried that for a while. I stopped taking it cuz my sleep patterns was all over the place, but I'd probably try it again if i had a stable sleep schedule.
do you practice dreaming lucidly? or try to?
I have tried, but never found the 'tricks' to work very well. They just come when they come, which luckily for me is quite often :)
yeah I was trying to. I've only had a handful and they never last too long.
sleep with the boyfriend.
It works, at least for my girlfriend.
Inaii
01-07-2010, 03:08 AM
^its odd, but I find I don't sleep as deeply when I'm sharing a bed with someone. Only ever been able to fall asleep super deeply with one person, and sadly he lives in California.
Though on a side note, I never found Melatonin or 5-HTP to give me clearer or more vivid dreams. I guess it's all dependent on the person?
SkinnyPupp
01-07-2010, 03:36 AM
How much do you take?
For melatonin, you can go up to 6mg pretty easily. Just don't take it too late at night.
For 5-HTP, 300mg is where it's at.
Whatever you do, don't take them both at once at these doses.
Inaii
01-07-2010, 04:22 AM
When I was taking them, I was taking 9mg (3mg pills, 3 per night). I ran out a little while ago and haven't had the money to go get more, so I've stopped taking them for now.
5-HTP I was taking 1 pill a day (I think it was 100mg) to help with my depression since I was refusing to take anti-depressants.
SkinnyPupp
01-07-2010, 04:31 AM
Holy crap 9mg, must knock you straight out!
For 5-HTP, try 300mg right before bed. It will help with depression the next day. Maybe work your way up, and remember not to take it with anything else, especially melatonin (which can cause serotonin overload) or vitamin B6 (which will cause it to convert to serotonin before it reaches the brain, which is not good long term)
Inaii
01-07-2010, 04:50 AM
Actually it didn't. My body gets used to medicines and herbs really quick and they stop working after a while.
If I can find my pills, I'll hop back on the 5-htp. Winter is even worse for me, especially right now since my room currently gets NO sunlight due to the window weather stripping being non-existent, so I have something covering it to keep my room warmer.
What does serotonin overload do? I've been warned about it, especially since I used to do ectasy and was warmed by a few people not to overdo the 5-htp the next day.
SkinnyPupp
01-07-2010, 07:17 AM
In terms of how it feels? Imagine your brain vibrating at a certain frequency, so you can hear it ringing in your ears, and you wake up feeling like you are literally floating in the air, and your head is going to literally explode.
It's pretty disorienting and can be dangerous. I didn't know what was causing it at first, but eventually figured out. I'm not sure exactly how severe it was, but it was definitely happening so I would recommend avoiding it if possible.
Inaii
01-07-2010, 07:20 AM
Ew creepy. I definitely do not want to experience that. I've done the opposite of that and remember how not fun it was. Thanks for the warning :)
Qmx323
01-07-2010, 11:11 PM
lol i once took sleeping pills and i dreamt about myself taking sleeping pills and when i fell asleep in my dream i woke up
TOS'd
01-07-2010, 11:30 PM
I had a dream about miss_crayon.
miss_crayon
01-07-2010, 11:45 PM
so to update everyone with the sleeping situation, it's not any better despite being super tired from work and class. still haven't taken the blood test cause i'm a pussy so i'm sure i'm either gonna ef up my body in the long run (cause i'll never know if it IS a thyroid problem) or just have to deal with these nightmares for the rest of my life.
i tried sleeping pills once but i'm not into taking pills if i don't have to. plus i tend to have an addictive personality so i'd probably end up relying on them which is what i don't want.
Inaii
01-07-2010, 11:49 PM
So do I, and I honestly haven't relied on them at all. I would just woman up and get the blood tests done missy :p this is your health, it's not to be joked around with.
welfare
01-10-2010, 07:01 AM
my god! you're still having this problem? get the damned blood test performed, girl
Ulic Qel-Droma
01-10-2010, 02:42 PM
I wouldn't be popping so much melatonin... that's crazy.
I popped 6mg a few times and I felt... really weird, like dreamy but in real life. of course knocked me right out.
Inaii
01-10-2010, 02:59 PM
Some people have higher tolerance, although I learned the hard way not to take 300mg of 5htp after not having taken it for a while. It was like a mild e high without the drug part or the after effects.
SkinnyPupp
01-10-2010, 09:07 PM
I told you to work your way up! :lol
You also build a tolerance for 5-htp, and when that happens it may be hard to sleep without it for a couple nights.
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