[theBlackMarkers]

Would like to get some feedback as to whether you guys will ever shop at Parker Place especially for mens clothings.

We are considering opening a retail store in Parker Place, but not sure if that would be the ideal location.

For people who are not sure where and what Parker Place is, it's a Chinese shopping center located on No.3 Road in Richmond.

Any feedback are appreciated! :thumbsup:

[illicitstylz]

No

Parking is too terrible there, and even if you find a parking spot, you risk getting hit and run there.

Nothing else is interesting in the mall.

Way too busy on weekends/lunch times just from high volumes.

3 road and hazelbridge(?) are both shitty roads to drive on, again from the high volume.

Probably better if you can land a location in the new Aberdeen mall, but of course easier said than done.

[Hehe]

I'd say no as well.

I have been maybe twice to PP this year and only because my gf wanted to eat at their food court.

Instead of renting at PP, might as well save your money and get a smaller place at Metrotown or somewhere mainstream down the road.

[liu13]

any mall except brentwood and kingsway would be a good location

[mpr]

for sure. it's my source for car perfume, tinted light bulbs, hello kitty, and type r stickers.

[ilvtofu]

I say no, I was just there yesterday, actually found some interesting stuff though. But it's not the first place that comes to mind. But the stores there have potential just the mall doesn't have a very good image for that sort of thing. But they actually have a lot more exclusive clothes I find, better than aberdeen IMO

[dasuperstar]

Metro or Oakridge is the best place.

If you want a calm and not really busy but a good place to sell I'd say oakridge is the best. Why? J2, sneaker box even hugo boss & lacoste survives their and have a good sale and profit. Oakridge is slowly turning like PC kinda mall.

I love to go to malls in Richmond to meet girl's hahahaha^^ but not now since my gf watches me T_T

[theBlackMarkers]

All very good points!

Thanks guys!

[TOS'd]

Yea, like some already said. No for Parker and Yes for Oakridge (if they have an open spot).

[LanEvoMR]

No for parker place. Yes for Oakridge, richmond center, or even aberdeen. Parker place is just a shithole.

[rien]

No to parkerplace.

Like others have said... YES to oakridge and even aberdeen is a better choice than PP.

[Gt-R R34]

anyone considering rent?
Oakridge rent is on par with PC. There are reason why certain stores are in certain malls.

If you're considering oakridge, hell any mall would work.

[dachinesedude]

no for parker, they have a history of stores selling counterfeit stuff, so pretty bad rep i would say, i wouldnt buy anything other than food at parker

[dasuperstar]

Talk to oakridge administration. If you are one grand higher in a renting offer they sure gonna kick a cheaper store^^

Like what they did to sony and other store that close hahaha they are greedy in rent^^

[snowball]

I thought I saw an empty store with BlackMarkers on it in Parker Place, the only place I'd go to in PP is Christine Jewelers cause they have a website.

[theBlackMarkers]

We do have a unit in there but it was for in-store pickup only. We have moved out of the unit there and moved into a much bigger warehouse for our online store.

We are considering Parker Place because we already have a unit there, but as many of you have suggested, PP is not an ideal location.

[Harvey Specter]

From a non-Asians pov I think it's a bad idea. You'll turn off a lot customers who aren't Asians even though I have no isses with Parker Place because I've been there a few times to buy stuff. And I agree, Oakridge would be ideal.

[dasuperstar]

^^ oakridge is winning....

Ye better be so that J2 and boys co has a competition and now they need to watch out with their prices^^

Revscene members should have VIP discounts hahaha^^

[jnesss]

i walked by your store once.. there was a guy inside with a laptop and it didn't look very welcoming to customers.

i personally never shop online because i'll only buy something if i can try it on and it fits. that's just me though.

[skyxx]

From a non-Asians pov I think it's a bad idea. You'll turn off a lot customers who aren't Asians even though I have no isses with Parker Place because I've been there a few times to buy stuff. And I agree, Oakridge would be ideal.

In an Asian POV I still find that Parker place is the wrong "image"(so to speak) for "The Black Markers". Oakridge would be a great place. I'm assuming rent's an issue as well.

[winson604]

any mall except brentwood and kingsway would be a good location

I`m not sure if you`re ruling out Brentwood because you think it won`t generate any income but if that`s is the case I believe you might be surprised. I know somebody who worked at Le Cheateu for years at various different locations such as 2 different downtown ones and Brentwood and according to her the Brentwood location does very very well and although the mall seems low traffic and hurting (which it is in terms of types of stores) it apparently does well. Now this is just shiet I heard so I don`t personally know the numbers but just putting it out there.

[dasuperstar]

Oakridge is more in a centre place compare to brentwood between cities^^

[asahai69]

Talk to oakridge administration. If you are one grand higher in a renting offer they sure gonna kick a cheaper store^^

Like what they did to sony and other store that close hahaha they are greedy in rent^^

its leased. theres nobody gettin kicked out because another dude offered 1g more.

[dasuperstar]

after your leased is done they do increase it that's why sony and other left oakridge

Still their intention is to make money. Why would you let sony go since a lot of people are buying from their and change it to a calendar store?

[Gnomes]

I used to go to that Mix&Match store in Parker Place. They had some nice honger clothing selection at a very affordable price. Unfortunately it's now all lady selection.

I think Blackmarkers will have better potentials located in a more western mall such as.... OAKRIDGE or even Richmond Center and lansdowne.

[tiger_handheld]

Oakridge / RC has high rent.

i say Lansdowne...


Blackmarkers need to do some Locational Break Even analysis :D ...

[SkinnyPupp]

I think a store like yours would be best served as a boutique shop, not a mall store. But maybe I'm wrong

[IfUCare]

you guys really have no idea the rent difference.
oakridge you're looking at 15k a month, easily.
parker place you're looking at maybe 5k....
yea, do the math.
but no, i wouldn't start up at parker place either.
it's just an annoying mall to be at, and i find that mall has a funky smell to it.
i wouldn't want to buy an expensive nice shirt and find that it seems like dried seafood.

[cctw]

no to parker place.
too many stores that sell fake products..so much that I'm dont wanna spend time differentiating which store sells authentic ones and which sells fakes. I just dont buy clothing there altogether haha

BUT..I wouldnt mind a pickup location there like online ordering and parker place pickup would be fine with me

[Tim Budong]

the target market you sell wouldnt belong in parkerplace
nothing against senses, but u guys sell premium clothes, and if ur still in the process of looking for brand identity, ParkerPlace is for sure no way

[blee123]

no. to parker place, majority of the stuff sold there are fake ( from clothing to dvds). Better off going for aberdeen since its also an asian mall. Alot of empty spaces at aberdeen lately.

[theBlackMarkers]

I am pretty sure we are not going to go ahead with Parker Place.

What do you guys think of 4th street, or the area near Broadway and Granville?

[dasuperstar]

Its alright^^ Busy place to go

I think the problem would be parking T_T

[bcedhk]

No for parker place. Yes for Oakridge, richmond center, or even aberdeen. Parker place is just a shithole.

i would say no to all

Just like at headquarters shop in Richmond. Location was "prime" since it was next to the skytrain station and bus station, btu they stil went down.

I would just stick with the online business thing.

Oakridge seems better imo, since the clothing you guys sell seem to be the demographic @ oakridge.

[yuusha]

No to Parker. Stick to online, or do Oakridge/Metro. Even Aberdeen is pretty poor of a location, since people don't go in there to shop for menswear.

[XtC-604]

Clement, i think thats a horrible choice, and pick up more recognizable brand names :D. I showed a couple of friends your website, and Crooks and Castle is the only one that we recognized.

[RevYouUp]

No to Parker Place too. People don't even shop there...they just go there for the food court.

[JSALES]

No, why not open shop somewhere in Gastown? Amongst all the other stores like complex, livestock, alife etc..

[- kT]

^ the stuff they sell probably wouldn't be able to stand up to the likes of alife, gdft, livestock, stussy, dutil, etc.

because of all the counterfeit clothing being sold at parker place, it's gonna look bad on your guys's store too. people that don't know their stuff aren't even gonna bother to come in because every other store in parker that sells streetwear is fake. you're better off at (like others have said) oakridge, metro, rc, aber..pretty much any other big mall in the lower mainland aside from parker

plus parking there is shit

[miss_crayon]

im gonna have to say considering of having a location on granville/broadway is a great idea. yeah parking might not be the best but there's tons of foot traffic with all the transit/major stores/businesses around. also, i'd suggest checking out main street as well! that area is super up and coming with all the interesting restaurants/cafes and people are so hip!

good luck!

[SkinnyPupp]

I am pretty sure we are not going to go ahead with Parker Place.

What do you guys think of 4th street, or the area near Broadway and Granville?
That's exactly what I was thinking. Or Gastown
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[ilvtofu]

Please set up shop, I don't want to pay almost $20 shipping anymore for something I could've drove to pick up or even canada lined to... :(

[skyxx]

Yes, West 4th or Gastown area is great! :) Maybe even Vancouver Granville is fine(Over the bridge non downtown)

[filth]

Wouldn't gastown have expensive rent as well? Just remember since you're store is focused mostly on street wear brands, you have to think about the competition there too.

ie. Subdivision, Haven, Livestock, and Complex just to name a few.

But it could also be good for your reputation and people that are interested in street wear will start checking out your store too since their down there. You guys should take over "Circle's" old location since its closed down now.

[SkinnyPupp]

Wouldn't gastown have expensive rent as well? Just remember since you're store is focused mostly on street wear brands, you have to think about the competition there too.

ie. Subdivision, Haven, Livestock, and Complex just to name a few.

But it could also be good for your reputation and people that are interested in street wear will start checking out your store too since their down there. You guys should take over "Circle's" old location since its closed down now.
That's not competition, it's the opposite. Basically they are turning that area into a destination for streetwear. It benefits all of them, especially if each one has unique products.

[dasuperstar]

im gonna have to say considering of having a location on granville/broadway is a great idea. yeah parking might not be the best but there's tons of foot traffic with all the transit/major stores/businesses around. also, i'd suggest checking out main street as well! that area is super up and coming with all the interesting restaurants/cafes and people are so hip!

good luck!


Main Street hahaha much better close to me :thumbsup:

[icemiko]

I do not shop at Parker Place but if you guys setup a store somewhere I'd come check it out, it beats paying for shipping.

[Razor Ramon HG]

I was thinking West 4th or Gastown would be ideal. Parker Place IMO is comparable to Crystal Mall.

[TypeRNammer]

No to parker place.

Cause I only go there once in a blue moon just to check out CarTronix.

[Drow]

like someone said earlier, parker place has a history of selling counterfeit shops, or brands nobody really knows about.

when i go parker place, its only to eat or get some bbt with chicks. heck, i dont even shop at aberdeen. i go RC / metrotown / downtown to buy my clothes

[StylinRed]

you'd have a better shot opening in Aberdeen Centre, more people and a better chance of having other races as well


i dont know what their rent is like though

[snowball]

4th would be great, but it depends on your target market, the market for Parker Place is completely different from that of 4th and that's also completely different from Granville and Broadway.

[skyxx]

Aberdeen isn't that great in my opinion. Rent is expensive, and there's not that many people who buy clothes there. I mean there are traffic but just not enough sales to get the store going. You would have a better chance in Downtown or West 4th/broadwayxGranville area.

[theBlackMarkers]

Hey guys, thanks again for all your opinions. It will truly help us out a great deal on securing the best location for our retail store! :thumbsup:

In the mean time, if you guys don't mind, please help us out on our other thread here at
http://www.revscene.net/forums/you-ever-shop-t601547.html?p=6753945#post6753945

[blee123]

Not sure about the clothes sold at Parker place but the majority of the DVDs sold there are fake for example, The store "DP Video" (unit 1220) and "Drama Max video" in Phase 1.

I do not feel comfortable shopping at Parker Place after I realized all the fake stuff being sold at the mall.

Please do not open shop at Parker place because people are going to think your products are "fake" just like what the other stores are selling