[Timpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9T53nUOiM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfTflPA_rH8

[hirevtuner]

from a distance, the front kinda looks like a supra (the headlights)

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

cool review is up already

[J____]

its so true though. although an amazing car, no one is goin to pay that much for a lexus. Ppl complain about buying a $100,000 nissan gtr, how about a 4 times the price tag toyota? Nsx was an amazing honda, but it was half the price of a ferrari. which made sense for ppl to buy it. this? no thanks, even if i had the money i'd buy a ferrari.

edit: the engine does sound fuking amazing however.

[flagella]

bashing X6 part is much better lmao

[Timpo]

its so true though. although an amazing car, no one is goin to pay that much for a lexus. Ppl complain about buying a $100,000 nissan gtr, how about a 4 times the price tag toyota? Nsx was an amazing honda, but it was half the price of a ferrari. which made sense for ppl to buy it. this? no thanks, even if i had the money i'd buy a ferrari.

edit: the engine does sound fuking amazing however.
I don't think people complain about the GT-R's price?
not trying to be biased or anything, but GT-Rs and Corvettes are the best performance bargains in the market today.

I know GT-R is only a Nissan, but Corvette and Viper are only a....

[SpuGen]

I don't think people complain about the GT-R's price?
not trying to be biased or anything, but GT-Rs and Corvettes are the best performance bargains in the market today.

I know GT-R is only a Nissan, but Corvette and Viper are only a....

A..?
A what?
Say it mother fucker.

[jungle168]

I still can't get over the fact that it costs £340,000.

[Gh0stRider]

repost!

http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6753222&postcount=295
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6753236&postcount=297

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

A..?
A what?
Say it mother fucker.

+1


:haha::haha::haha:

[Hondaracer]

wow those gauges are fucking SICK

[woob]

This car is more of an excercise of engineering as Jermey said. They never stated the reason for the price. Lexus contracted out almost nothing when building this car. They built their own freaking carbon fibre loom (only the 2nd loom of its kind in the world) to spin all the CF themselves, they got Yamaha to tune the acoustics of the cabin, among other things.

To consumers, all this shit probably doesn't matter, but I find it all very interesting and the pricing makes sense considering the extents Lexus went to to produce this car.

[Hondaracer]

people will buy it

[hk20000]

The loom and the manufacturing techniques will eventually trickle down to other production cars. It's only, like what Hamster said, an engineer's wet dream to show you what they CAN do when money is no object.

While the whole project is a red mark on the balance sheet, the R&D in it will eventually make a good profit.

The CF loom thing, for example, can make light weight and strong chassis which has been in the talk in Toyota for a long time to make cars more "efficient". Granted a lighter car is more efficient than a heavier one, so if they can build CF in house they can probably figure out a way to do this cheaply, by the economy of the mass.

But the LFA is out there as an exercise to show you what the company CAN pull off. As a publicity stunt more than anything.

[Timpo]

A..?
A what?
Say it mother fucker.

well they're only GM and Chrysler

and their name value isn't significantly better than Nissan, if not, worse

[twitchyzero]

The loom and the manufacturing techniques will eventually trickle down to other production cars. It's only, like what Hamster said, an engineer's wet dream to show you what they CAN do when money is no object.

While the whole project is a red mark on the balance sheet, the R&D in it will eventually make a good profit.

The CF loom thing, for example, can make light weight and strong chassis which has been in the talk in Toyota for a long time to make cars more "efficient". Granted a lighter car is more efficient than a heavier one, so if they can build CF in house they can probably figure out a way to do this cheaply, by the economy of the mass.

But the LFA is out there as an exercise to show you what the company CAN pull off. As a publicity stunt more than anything.

agreed, but i wouldn't call it a "publicity" stunt since the general public could care less nor have the knowledge to appreciate it.

But yeah, pretty much just Toyota flexing its guns

[EndLeSS8]

Pretty sad that Top Gear was being a complete badge-whore on this one.
If it's a great car, it doesn't matter what brand it is. GTR, ZR1, Viper, LFA, they're all great cars.

[SpuGen]

well they're only GM and Chrysler

and their name value isn't significantly better than Nissan, if not, worse

Way to deflect the question.

You were gonna say "Just a Domestic"

Pussy. Stand up for yourself.

Now go cry in the corner.

[orange7]

^
LOL :haha:

[freakshow]

Way to deflect the question.

You were gonna say "Just a Domestic"I doubt he was.. sounds more like he was gonna say the brand names...

[Timpo]

I doubt he was.. sounds more like he was gonna say the brand names...

yeah...because GT-R is only a Nissan, so Corvette and Viper are GM and Chrysler.

[Timpo]

but as for the price though...Lexus is sort of like Mercedes rival, but a bit cheaper.

Mercedes was selling the SLR a bit more than LFA, so I guess the price sorta justifies.

[EmperorIS]

don't think price is much of an issue ...there will always be a buyer since this is a very exclusive car from lexus .. its more selling the brand then the car

[Eclypz]

With only 500 units for the world to share, You're paying for exclusivity and rarity.
With quantities that low, price becomes irrelevant anyways. Whether Lexus sets the MSRP for $40K or $400K, we still can't get one, because some rich bastard will pay hundreds of thousands for one anyways.

[orange7]

^

humlun167 is going to get one since he can buy 10 gtr

[penner2k]

With only 500 units for the world to share, You're paying for exclusivity and rarity.
With quantities that low, price becomes irrelevant anyways. Whether Lexus sets the MSRP for $40K or $400K, we still can't get one, because some rich bastard will pay hundreds of thousands for one anyways.

I would put money on it that in 40 years if someone owns a Zr-1 and the Lexus the ZR-1 will actually be worth more.

[Z3guy]

the fact people are talking about the LFA in the same breath as Ferrari.......Toyota has won......

[$_$]

the fact people are talking about the LFA in the same breath as Ferrari.......Toyota has won......


Exactly. Pricing and number of units alone were enough to get LFA being talked about at the totally exotic level. Rich Japanese guys would no doubt buy numbers of these just because it is the highest level vehicle you can get while still supporting your country. A Korean man would do the same with Hyundai.

[Timpo]

Exactly. Pricing and number of units alone were enough to get LFA being talked about at the totally exotic level. Rich Japanese guys would no doubt buy numbers of these just because it is the highest level vehicle you can get while still supporting your country. A Korean man would do the same with Hyundai.
Not exactly,

Japanese people do not have sense of supporting their country by buying their own cars.

It was a big news in Japan when Toyota decided to launch Lexus...and Japanese people immediately got interests in luxury cars. So they decided to buy BMWs and Mercedes. I think the sales of BMWs and Mercedes got up by 70% or something.

To Japanese people, Japanese cars have some sort of uncool factor, too ordinary, and you can't brag about owning one. They would rather buy European cars if they're paying luxury car cash.

[skyxx]

^ That's why they would rather drive a Mustang than a GTR and that's a fact.

[Lomac]

Pretty sad that Top Gear was being a complete badge-whore on this one.
If it's a great car, it doesn't matter what brand it is. GTR, ZR1, Viper, LFA, they're all great cars.

yeah...because GT-R is only a Nissan, so Corvette and Viper are GM and Chrysler.

I think you're missing the point he was trying to make. Apart from the very odd model, Lexus' model line up has always been much like Toyota: Well made, great resell, and generally very reliable. They aren't known for making exciting cars. In Europe especially, where diesels reign king, they're even less exciting than here. As a result, people who look for a luxury sports saloon invariably end up looking towards BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc; you know, companies that have a history of making powerful, sporty sedans. However, Lexus here has suddenly broken the mould and introduced a car that's much, much more expensive than anything they've ever produced. Think of it as Volkswagen and their attempt at the S-Class and 7ser crowd when they released the Phaeton. It was a fantastic car, but it was out of the brand name's reach. Who would pay $100,000+ for a Volkswagen when you could buy an Audi A8L or BMW 745i instead? Clarkson is saying much the same with the LFA. It's not that the LFA isn't a brilliant car; rather, it's the image associated with the brand.

[EndLeSS8]

I think you're missing the point he was trying to make. Apart from the very odd model, Lexus' model line up has always been much like Toyota: Well made, great resell, and generally very reliable. They aren't known for making exciting cars. In Europe especially, where diesels reign king, they're even less exciting than here. As a result, people who look for a luxury sports saloon invariably end up looking towards BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc; you know, companies that have a history of making powerful, sporty sedans. However, Lexus here has suddenly broken the mould and introduced a car that's much, much more expensive than anything they've ever produced. Think of it as Volkswagen and their attempt at the S-Class and 7ser crowd when they released the Phaeton. It was a fantastic car, but it was out of the brand name's reach. Who would pay $100,000+ for a Volkswagen when you could buy an Audi A8L or BMW 745i instead? Clarkson is saying much the same with the LFA. It's not that the LFA isn't a brilliant car; rather, it's the image associated with the brand.

The LFA is to Lexus as the NSX was to Honda.

Unfortunately, people can't respect that, no matter how extraordinary that is.

I've owned an NSX, and if I was filthy rich, I would consider buying the LFA

[Timpo]

^ That's why they would rather drive a Mustang than a GTR and that's a fact.

well, no Mustangs aren't that popular in Japan, I'm talking about European cars.