[Senna4ever]

....2 weeks after I buy a brand new current model. :(

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10010508canon70200isii.asp

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=19092#ModelTechSpecsAct

[Meowjin]

30 day return policy ;)

[Meowjin]

kinda of a knee jerk reaction to the nikon one no?

[Senna4ever]

30 day return policy ;)

Any time return policy - I work at the place where I bought it! :p

[Senna4ever]

kinda of a knee jerk reaction to the nikon one no?
Why? The Canon 70-200 is the oldest of the big three's 70-200 f2.8 lenses. It was overdue for an update.

[gars]

waiting to see the price...

[Senna4ever]

No North American pricing confirmed, but in the UK, 2700 Pounds(!). Estimated price is $2800 USD, according to my source, but again, not confirmed.

[vietfx]

Does that mean we'll be seeing the Mark I go down in price? :D

[Senna4ever]

Does that mean we'll be seeing the Mark I go down in price? :D
Do you mean prior to the release of the new lens in April? Possibly, but I'm not sure yet.

[Mananetwork]

Seeing as a used non IS 70-200 f2.8 goes for $1200USD, $2800USD is extremely steep!

[Meowjin]

Why? The Canon 70-200 is the oldest of the big three's 70-200 f2.8 lenses. It was overdue for an update.

it seemed fine on digital when I had one.

The nikons suffered from vignetting and soft corners. thats why they were replaced.

[Senna4ever]

it seemed fine on digital when I had one.

The nikons suffered from vignetting and soft corners. thats why they were replaced.
The current one is a bit soft...you've never used a Sony 70-200 f2.8G have you? That thing is amazing.

The Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VR on FF is a bit soft in the corners, the older 80-200 is sharper, but isn't as in the AF department.

[gars]

No North American pricing confirmed, but in the UK, 2700 Pounds(!). Estimated price is $2800 USD, according to my source, but again, not confirmed.

holy crap!!!

Amazon has the MK I for £1450 right now... this is nearly double the price!!! wtf??

there's a photo expo in a months time, i wonder if they'll have this lens on display....

[Bonjour43MA]

it seemed fine on digital when I had one.

The nikons suffered from vignetting and soft corners. thats why they were replaced.

I acutally like the vignetting on the VR1, works well for me for sports/portraits. I don't shoot landscape so corner performance ain't an issue.

These new lenses are so damn expensive that I don't think it's worth the money to upgrade... yet.

Mint Nikon 70-200 VR1~ $1500 CDN
New Nikon 70-200 VR2~ $2700 tax in

Mint Canon 70-200 IS~ $1600 CDN
New Canon 70-200 IS~ $3000 tax in :eek:

Do you get 2x the performance? Hmmmmm doubt it. I guess for working pros this is no big deal but for the rest of us these new lenses are... damn too expensive.

[Senna4ever]

It seems that with lenses, incremental improvements come at a steep price. I think it's worth the improvement. It may keep some amateurs from buying the lenses for sure. Pros can just write it off, but it's pretty much the price of one day's wedding shoot though.

[Boostslut]

I'm quite happy with my 70-200 2.8 all though its not the IS version, so i'm good. Here is a site with a few sample pictures, not very many though.

http://blog.reddotphoto.com.sg/?p=726

[PNF]

$2800 for MKII??? wow........

B&H have the MK I IS for like $1600 USD... thats quite a big difference...

[implode]

The current 70-200 f2.8L IS USM lists for $1999. When the 70-200 f2.8 L IS USM was introduced back in 2001, its suggested list price was about $3000. If the estimate for the MK II is about $2800, it doesn't seem too wild.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0108/01080101canonef70200f28.asp

[Domani]

hey Senna,

u think there will be a 70-200 2.8 mk2 non is?

[Meowjin]

It seems that with lenses, incremental improvements come at a steep price. I think it's worth the improvement. It may keep some amateurs from buying the lenses for sure. Pros can just write it off, but it's pretty much the price of one day's wedding shoot though.

probably has something to do with the amount of asphirical lenses/ed elements.

[Senna4ever]

hey Senna,

u think there will be a 70-200 2.8 mk2 non is?

Not yet - only the IS has been announced.
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[Senna4ever]

probably has something to do with the amount of asphirical lenses/ed elements.

It has to do with the one flourite element.
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[implode]

It has to do with the one flourite element.
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Plus 5 UD elements in the MK II vs 4 UD elements in the MK I

[MikesJo]

That price is ridiculous. The only people I can see needing this are those that shoot sports out in the rain or whoever uses their equipment in harsh conditions.

My 70-200 2.8 is my favorite lens :P. lol. If I had disposable income I'd have all their lenses, haha. Damnit...lens lust :(.

[Senna4ever]

So I'm here in Las Vegas attending the WPPI (Wedding & Portrait Photographers International) Trade Show. It's really amazing with all the convention halls full of vendors advertising/selling their products & services that are geared towards wedding/portrait photographers. Canon, Nikon & Sony have HUGE booths showcasing pretty much their entire line-up of camera bodies and lenses. I got to play with and shoot with the new Canon 70-200mm f2.8L IS II, and it's fucking amazing. The AF is an order of magnitude faster than the v1.0, more accurate and sharp as hell. I always thought the 5DmkII just had slow AF, but in this case, its definitely the lens, not the body. I have a meeting with the Canon people tomorrow, so I'll be able to do a more thorough test.

[m3thods]

So I'm here in Las Vegas attending the WPPI (Wedding & Portrait Photographers International) Trade Show. It's really amazing with all the convention halls full of vendors advertising/selling their products & services that are geared towards wedding/portrait photographers. Canon, Nikon & Sony have HUGE booths showcasing pretty much their entire line-up of camera bodies and lenses. I got to play with and shoot with the new Canon 70-200mm f2.8L IS II, and it's fucking amazing. The AF is an order of magnitude faster than the v1.0, more accurate and sharp as hell. I always thought the 5DmkII just had slow AF, but in this case, its definitely the lens, not the body. I have a meeting with the Canon people tomorrow, so I'll be able to do a more thorough test.

Any updates on the MSRP? Is it closer to the Mk1 or will it really be priced in the 2700-3000 range?

[Senna4ever]

No word yet, but probably around $2400~$2500.

[gars]

is it still not released in NA yet? pricing here in the UK is still insane. cheapest right now is £2449 at jessops....

[vietfx]

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=19092

Suggested Retail Price: $2499.00†
Available in April 2010

† Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. Actual prices are determined by individual dealers and may vary.

This is what it says on the Canon USA site.

[moky]

Aden Camera in Toronto has it listed for 2599.99 CAD on pre-order
http://www.adencamera.com/prod-overview.asp?ProdID=3242&Category=7

[Senna4ever]

The Canon USA people said that it will be shipping next week to dealers in the USA. No word for Canada yet. I got to try it again today...I'm not sure if the optical quality has changed by a huge margin, but it is much faster. That alone is worth the extra $500 to me.

[m3thods]

The Canon USA people said that it will be shipping next week to dealers in the USA. No word for Canada yet. I got to try it again today...I'm not sure if the optical quality has changed by a huge margin, but it is much faster. That alone is worth the extra $500 to me.

By faster AF do you mean faster than other USM lenses in acquiring focus in general? Or more specifically faster focus in low light conditions?

I'm not quite sure if (for me at least) the $500 (plus any clearance pricing for the Mk1) premium is worth it for faster AF only.

[Senna4ever]

By faster AF do you mean faster than other USM lenses in acquiring focus in general? Or more specifically faster focus in low light conditions?

I'm not quite sure if (for me at least) the $500 (plus any clearance pricing for the Mk1) premium is worth it for faster AF only.
Faster...everything and improved IS. If you're a pro who shoots sports, or a lot of low light situations like weddings, it's worth the $500. For the regular consumer, probably not.

[moky]

dunno the accuracy of this one since it does say canonrumors.com
it shows a store with a 70-200 f2.8L IS II with a friggin huge box for a 70-200
http://www.canonrumors.com/2010/03/70-200-f2-8l-is-ii-in-toronto/

[keitaro]

You can buy it in HK already. Someone on POTN already has a copy. They even mentioned the AF is a lot faster.

Canon's own charts that graph out the IQ show only a minimal improvement in IQ. It seems that the AF and IS systems that got a really big overhaul.

[Senna4ever]

My 70-200 is in front, the new V2.0 is behind. They look pretty much identical.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Photos%20II/P1030974.jpg

[m3thods]

My 70-200 is in front, the new V2.0 is behind. They look pretty much identical.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Photos%20II/P1030974.jpg

hehe looks like a car meet except for cameras. :thumbsup:

[skyxx]

My 70-200 is in front, the new V2.0 is behind. They look pretty much identical.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Photos%20II/P1030974.jpg

Is that picture an "Innuendo" for something?! :thumbsup:

[keitaro]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031904canon70200mmshortage.asp

Canon Japan has announced a shortage of its recently released EF 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II USM lens because of higher than expected demand. The company says it is attempting to boost supply to meet demand across all markets.


Canon must be happy...

[SSM_DC5]

$2699.99 at Broadway

http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_17&products_id=4311

is there a general time frame for when new lenses will drop in price? for example after 6 months, or 1 year, etc?

[Senna4ever]

$2699.99 at Broadway

http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_17&products_id=4311

is there a general time frame for when new lenses will drop in price? for example after 6 months, or 1 year, etc?
$2549 at Beau. :) $2360 with CPS.

[keitaro]

$2549 at Beau. :) $2360 with CPS.

too bad i can't afford it =(

[SSM_DC5]

$2549 at Beau. :) $2360 with CPS.

what's CPS?

[Senna4ever]

what's CPS?
Canon Professional Services. You get discounted prices that are less than wholesale if you are a professional photographer shooting Canon gear. You first need to prove to Canon that you earn 100% of your income through photographic services, and for now have at least 2 pro bodies and 3 L lenses. They are making it more strict this year to weed out the ones that don't deserve a CPS membership.

[LiquidTurbo]

This lens looks to be very good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJg7nV7NZk

[keitaro]

Canon Professional Services. You get discounted prices that are less than wholesale if you are a professional photographer shooting Canon gear. You first need to prove to Canon that you earn 100% of your income through photographic services, and for now have at least 2 pro bodies and 3 L lenses. They are making it more strict this year to weed out the ones that don't deserve a CPS membership.

I support that CPS memberships should be limited to people who are actual photographers, and earn their full income through photography. It would be nice though if they had another membership for Canon enthusiasts to benefit from services similar to CPS. Like expedited sensor cleaning, discounts and freebies.

No such thing exists right?