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Lost Season 6 *The Final Season*
twitchyzero
01-17-2010, 10:28 PM
The Lost Supper
http://www.likecool.com/Gear/Pic/The%20LOST%20Supper/big/The-LOST-Supper.jpg
Feb 2, 2010.
im soo pumped to see an ending to this series. I still remember season 2's shitty filler episodes and the flashforward/back geting tiresome and the time travelling left a sore taste in our mouths but the end of the last season set the stage for a pretty great ending IMO.
Apparently there's no flashfwd/backs and it's the writers will answer all of the show's mysteries. hopefully this will bring back the old fans.
anyone else excited?
twitchyzero
01-19-2010, 10:16 PM
*crickets chirping*
Delish
01-19-2010, 10:33 PM
SO EXCITED!!!! I've rewatched Seasons 1-3 on dvd. Nothing beats season 1.
westcoastgsr
01-21-2010, 08:55 AM
I need to rewatch last season to remember what is going on. I love the show but Im glad its the last season, it needed to come to an end.
Slifer
02-02-2010, 11:10 AM
LOST starts tonight?!
vapour_lock
02-02-2010, 10:00 PM
total mindfuck
threezero
02-02-2010, 11:10 PM
yes there is not traveling forward and backwards in times but
flashing sidways, lol wtf.
imo still ain't as strong as the first season judging from this episode alone. still i can't wait till next week
twitchyzero
02-02-2010, 11:11 PM
didnt realize it was a 2 hr episode
good to see all the dead casts back...especially boone
StylinRed
02-02-2010, 11:53 PM
ctv's HD looked like ass... was the east coast ABC airing any good?
i h8'd the commercials every 5mins that lasted for 5mins
show was pretty good
i thought for sure the chick was going to live, wonder if she's going to come back from the dead or something
didnt realize it was a 2 hr episode
good to see all the dead casts back...especially boom
i didn't care for whiney emo boy. and i think his name is boon
can't wait till all this startings tying together and makes sense
Oh yeah, Juliette was spotted in Yaletown today
twitchyzero
02-03-2010, 12:20 AM
the biggest mystery for me is claire
i think charlie is my least favourite character in the series...faraday is a close second lol
I am much more intersted in the alternative timeline right now, anyone noticed how boon's hot sister wasn't on the plane?
Delish
02-03-2010, 03:30 PM
the biggest mystery for me is claire
i think charlie is my least favourite character in the series...faraday is a close second lol
I am much more intersted in the alternative timeline right now, anyone noticed how boon's hot sister wasn't on the plane?
Apparently it's no coincidence that Shannon wasn't on the flight (along with Libby, Eko, and a bunch of the others) but I also read Maggie Grace wasn't able to make it to shooting so they had to rewrite the plot for it.
It's also no coincidence that Jack was the nervous one on the flight (in the original timeline, HE was the one comforting Rose). And why was his neck bleeding in the airplane bathroom!
Where the heck is Christian's body in the alternate timeline!!
Apparently it's no coincidence that Shannon wasn't on the flight (along with Libby, Eko, and a bunch of the others) but I also read Maggie Grace wasn't able to make it to shooting so they had to rewrite the plot for it.
It's also no coincidence that Jack was the nervous one on the flight (in the original timeline, HE was the one comforting Rose). And why was his neck bleeding in the airplane bathroom!
Where the heck is Christian's body in the alternate timeline!!
Wasn't his neck bleeding because he nicked it while shaving?
Delish
02-03-2010, 06:34 PM
When did we see him shaving? It was pretty far down his neck though, he had to pull his collar down.. Then again, I'm a girl so I don't know how much facial/neck hair men and grow haha
I think the alternate timeline (landing safely at LAX) is trying to reconcile itself with the true timeline (them being on the island).. buhhh I don't know, it takes too much effort to try and explain haha
jerche
02-03-2010, 07:36 PM
everything in the 'sideway' timeline is opposite, desmond is on the plane, server giving jack 1 bottle of rum instead of 2, hurley is 'lucky' now instead of being cursed, shannon is still in australia because boone couldn't persuade her this time
Why are you guys using spoilers?
Episode already aired
Delish
02-03-2010, 09:19 PM
Because some people are dumb enough to read the thread and then complain about how they haven't watched an episode? haha
I wonder if Cindy (the flight attendant) was an Other this entire time.. Maybe she gave Jack 1 bottle in the alternate timeline because she knew there wasn't going to be a crash (versus the original timeline, she gave him 2, one he used to clean his wound in the pilot episode). Far fetched I know, but it'd be nuts if she was! :high:
twitchyzero
02-03-2010, 09:50 PM
well anna-lucia libby ecko and the rest were actually on the tail portion of the plane so it could be feasible even if they didnt have cameo during this past episode
refresh my memory here, did jack ever find out that claire was his half sister?
6793026
02-03-2010, 10:24 PM
holy fallkkkkkkkk you guys are screwing with me. the eposide aired so i'm not going to put on any spoilers tags.
threezero is right, it's flashing sideways... FALKKKKK, i was watching for the longest time and i'm like wtf is going on. You are right, before it's flash back, then it became flash forward, now it's sideways....
before it was great, but now with jacob + two Lock and some crazy monsters... i'm really lost as falk.
I was hoping they didn't put on a new cast but nooooo they had to bring out some japanese cast now....
Oh, before Jin is super cheap and now he's rolling with Rolexs and also tons of money....
Delish
02-03-2010, 11:35 PM
refresh my memory here, did jack ever find out that claire was his half sister?
Woww I totally forgot about the fact that he knows about Claire now.
Yes, when he and the rest of the Oceanic 6 were rescued and brought back to the real world, he held a memorial service for his father, and that's where Claire's mom showed up and introduced herself. She told Jack that she had an affair with Christian and that her daughter Claire was on the plane. As far as I remember, Claire still has no idea that Jack's her half-brother and she doesn't even know Christian's name (in one of her flashbacks she got mad at him and told Christian she wanted to keep it that way)
threezero
02-03-2010, 11:45 PM
holy fallkkkkkkkk you guys are screwing with me. the eposide aired so i'm not going to put on any spoilers tags.
threezero is right, it's flashing sideways... FALKKKKK, i was watching for the longest time and i'm like wtf is going on. You are right, before it's flash back, then it became flash forward, now it's sideways....
before it was great, but now with jacob + two Lock and some crazy monsters... i'm really lost as falk.
I was hoping they didn't put on a new cast but nooooo they had to bring out some japanese cast now....
Oh, before Jin is super cheap and now he's rolling with Rolexs and also tons of money....
Jin had the rolex in the og timeline too, it play quite an important part too. If i remember corrected he is suppose to deliever the rolex for his boss somewhere in america but than again this timeline has flip everything.
I'm was certain the whol fade to white last season end was a hint that jacob is now totally in charge obviously i'm wrong.
twitchyzero
02-04-2010, 08:04 AM
yep jin was delivering it for Sun's dad (his boss) but also promised Sun it was his last work errand and will stay in the US with Sun so they cant be bothered by her dad
Expresso
02-04-2010, 10:42 AM
Oh yeah, Juliette was spotted in Yaletown today
She films V in Vancouver, if that show is still on lol!
Finally a show worth watching!
twitchyzero
02-04-2010, 02:38 PM
the overdramatic music effects of this show really annoys me.
Psykopathik
03-05-2010, 12:27 PM
im quite disappointed in the last season thus far.
twitchyzero
03-05-2010, 12:58 PM
werd
the japanese guy pisses me off.
at least they are slowly wrapping things up
Expresso
03-05-2010, 01:10 PM
I'm liking it a lot. Probably the show I most look forward to every week.
Tonight's episode on Richard was so damn good. Probably the best one of the season so far
strykn
03-24-2010, 12:36 AM
Tonight's episode on Richard was so damn good. Probably the best one of the season so far
yup, we finally got some answers :thumbsup:
twitchyzero
03-24-2010, 10:09 AM
yup, we finally got some answers :thumbsup:
yes finally
season 2, 5 and most of 6 has just been filler episodes :mad:
TopazX5
03-25-2010, 11:02 PM
yes finally
season 2, 5 and most of 6 has just been filler episodes :mad:
are you watching the same season 6 as I am watching ? in season 6 so far:
saw the temple, lighthouse, blackrock (might of been shown before) for the first time
where the rest of the statue is
claire
found out what the numbers meant
why the losties were brought to the island
what the black smoke was
Expresso
03-25-2010, 11:59 PM
are you watching the same season 6 as I am watching ? in season 6 so far:
saw the temple, lighthouse, blackrock (might of been shown before) for the first time
where the rest of the statue is
claire
found out what the numbers meant
why the losties were brought to the island
what the black smoke was
hahah I was thinking the same thing. This is probably my favourite show right now. I can see this ramping up pretty good with only 7-8 episodes left.
twitchyzero
03-26-2010, 02:02 PM
we've seen the blackrock a few times before
i could care less abot claire
we already know what the numbers meant back in like season 3
most of the viewers already know who the black monster is at the end of last season
i should reword my statement about this season...the writers like to beat around the bush and could've presented the answer when the opportunity arises but they like pushing it back and giving you more questions instead.
TopazX5
03-26-2010, 11:48 PM
^ from which part in season 3 were the numbers revealed ?
twitchyzero
03-29-2010, 05:55 PM
to be honest i dont remember but it's been revealed before
wouwou
03-29-2010, 07:08 PM
to be honest i dont remember but it's been revealed before
you would have made a name by posting a spoiler about the numbers' meanings back in S3, cause that's one of the biggest Qs of Lost.
it wasn't revealed. Trust me, I just spent a month watching EVERY episode from S1 to S06E09.
aikenluu918
03-29-2010, 11:51 PM
such a good series, the producers of this also produced flashforward (i think..) both are great series. Cant wait for tomorrow episode. I just wished there were more seasons left.
Expresso
03-30-2010, 08:47 AM
you would have made a name by posting a spoiler about the numbers' meanings back in S3, cause that's one of the biggest Qs of Lost.
it wasn't revealed. Trust me, I just spent a month watching EVERY episode from S1 to S06E09.
Yea seriously, twitchy no offense or anything but you gotta re-watch the show cause you seem making assumptions here and maybe you'll appreciate season 6 more.
Can't wait for tonight!
twitchyzero
03-30-2010, 09:43 PM
my bad
i watched seasons 1-4 before season 5 started last year..so I thought i still have a pretty good memory of everything that happened.
still...i still think the writers are beating around the bush. let's hope every episode from now on was as good as that richard episode.
strykn
03-30-2010, 10:05 PM
why is desmond the special package...:confused::confused:
wouwou
03-30-2010, 10:53 PM
my bad
i watched seasons 1-4 before season 5 started last year..so I thought i still have a pretty good memory of everything that happened.
still...i still think the writers are beating around the bush. let's hope every episode from now on was as good as that richard episode.
that's why I waited 5 years :D
I waited till S6 started, and watched from the beginning like crazy.
Gawk DAMN this is a good series. Granted S2 was weak, but Lost redeemed itself by killing off Michael and Walt. Those 2 were so fucking annoying I was a racist.
LiquidTurbo
03-30-2010, 11:35 PM
We have to leave the island! We have to go back! We have to leave the island! We have to go back!
6793026
03-31-2010, 07:58 AM
wow, i gotta applaud you all for being so into the show. I watched S 1 to S 4 all together and 1 and 2 was great, once they brought in the Other, it just totally lost me. The flash forward was great but I gotta say this "flash sideways" crap does NOTHING for me. First time in a while i was like, this is really boring.
claire was ok... charlie was who i liked back in season 1. what is this black rock we are talking about>?
twitchyzero
04-02-2010, 12:07 AM
the boat richard was on
so in the sideways jin isn't married with sun? I thought originally they were planning to do this as the last errand for her dad and just never return to korea right? interesting
and i forgot sun had a kid
threezero
04-02-2010, 07:25 AM
the boat richard was on
so in the sideways jin isn't married with sun? I thought originally they were planning to do this as the last errand for her dad and just never return to korea right? interesting
and i forgot sun had a kid
i dun think jin know what errand he is running for sun's day in the og timeline either, for all we know jin could be doing the exact same as what he is doing in alternate timeline. remember jin did alot of dirty work for the dad and knows a shitload of secret not to mention the dad didn't approve of the marriage int he first place.
did anybody notice that prior to this weeks episode the flash sideways seems to be complete opposite but yet in this episode the the characters in both timeline in converging somehow. like sun suddenly losing her ability to speak eng and sayid losing his human emotion (notice the same blank look when he found jin in the flash sideways)?
twitchyzero
04-07-2010, 01:42 AM
this show is finally picking up
7 episodes left..i've always liked desmond's character but hated faraday
aikenluu918
04-07-2010, 08:45 AM
i dun think jin know what errand he is running for sun's day in the og timeline either, for all we know jin could be doing the exact same as what he is doing in alternate timeline. remember jin did alot of dirty work for the dad and knows a shitload of secret not to mention the dad didn't approve of the marriage int he first place.
did anybody notice that prior to this weeks episode the flash sideways seems to be complete opposite but yet in this episode the the characters in both timeline in converging somehow. like sun suddenly losing her ability to speak eng and sayid losing his human emotion (notice the same blank look when he found jin in the flash sideways)?
i thought about this theory, i think the flashes are about if the island didn't exist at all. and thats why desmond was on the flight
6793026
04-07-2010, 09:52 PM
i really enjoyed last night's eposide. seeing charlie back and doing the "penny on the boat" thing, and also desmond is realizing something is up TOTALLY got me back into the show. I'm so excited.
LiquidTurbo
04-14-2010, 11:06 AM
Last night's episode was a big wtf. Talk about an 'explosive' episode!
twitchyzero
04-14-2010, 11:17 AM
i wonder if the writers will ever get to explain why libby was creeping on hurley back in season 3.
and i hope they'll explain why jack's dad keeps appearing on the island...or why kate sees her dead horse.
LiquidTurbo
04-14-2010, 11:55 AM
Lost will never explain anything. We are all fools for thinking that by the time the series finale is over, we will magically make sense of everything.
Tons of unanswered crazy shit.
1. How did Locke's dad come to the island.
2. WTF exactly is the smoke monster exactly.
etc etc etc.
I loved the first season, but for me, the show really went South when they decided to introduce Supernatural elements into the show. That way, ANYTHING can happen. Big ass WTF moments which make no sense.
The writers have trolled us hard.
That being said, Lost is a very nicely crafted TV show. The presentation and editing and everything I really dig. The story, not so much. Season 6 has been the weakest season by far, in my opinion. Let's hope they redeem themselves in the remaining episodes.
dub.g
04-14-2010, 12:20 PM
and i hope they'll explain why jack's dad keeps appearing on the island...or why kate sees her dead horse.
from what i assume, Jack's Dad is a manifestation of the Man in Black
keep in mind, he was dead and on a coffin, kind of like what John Locke is now. We havent seen the appearance of Jack's Dad since i think the season 4 finale when he told John Locke to bring everyone back to the island before he pulled that lever
Also, the episode the week after next week, which the 4th of the last is about the Man in Black wholly so we may get an explanation with the smoke monster's powers and what he is.
if you read the interviews about the writers, they admitted that they wont be able to explain all the anomalies and plot holes as they wont have enough time but they will focus on the major plot points and questions of the whole series.
one thing they did confirm is the Flash Sideways of 2004 will gradually fused with the current 2007 storyline.. you can tell this from Desmond and the Libby/Hurley interaction
twitchyzero
04-14-2010, 12:29 PM
^ but christian shepards body was not in the coffin in season 1 and in the alternative world jack mentioned the airline lost his dad's coffin.
there were also the 2 skeletons in season 1 in the cave...i hope they wrap that up too?
wouwou
04-14-2010, 03:40 PM
^ but christian shepards body was not in the coffin in season 1 and in the alternative world jack mentioned the airline lost his dad's coffin.
there were also the 2 skeletons in season 1 in the cave...i hope they wrap that up too?
the body was IN the coffin when 815 crashed, Jack just "couldn't" find his dad's body.
wouwou
04-14-2010, 03:43 PM
oh and now we know what the whispers are
COOL/
6793026
04-14-2010, 08:49 PM
oh, hurley and that blonde chick is LIBBY??? wtf
am i on crack or did they just swap a diff blonde chick with Hurley?
(i'm assuming cause libby is now in V, or was it some other show like fast forward)
Slifer
04-14-2010, 10:29 PM
^Pretty sure its the same chick..
TopazX5
04-18-2010, 11:06 PM
oh, hurley and that blonde chick is LIBBY??? wtf
am i on crack or did they just swap a diff blonde chick with Hurley?
(i'm assuming cause libby is now in V, or was it some other show like fast forward)
you are on crack, its' the same Libby
bcedhk
04-18-2010, 11:37 PM
sun was so hot 2 ep. ago.. but people were saying this was a body double...
http://i44.tinypic.com/s2y5qx.gif
wouwou
04-19-2010, 09:15 AM
oh, hurley and that blonde chick is LIBBY??? wtf
am i on crack or did they just swap a diff blonde chick with Hurley?
(i'm assuming cause libby is now in V, or was it some other show like fast forward)
what were you smoking?
LiquidTurbo
04-19-2010, 09:45 AM
sun was so hot 2 ep. ago.. but people were saying this was a body double...
http://i44.tinypic.com/s2y5qx.gif
It's very obvious it was a body double.. it was even obvious upon viewing the scene for the first time.
http://www.zap2it.com/media/photo/2009-12/51334654.jpg
6793026
04-19-2010, 10:59 AM
yes guys, i guess i've been watching way too much breaking bad, i got libby all mixed up. it's been a while since i've seen libby after for she fired from the show along with that rodregiz chick.
palepilsenpin0y
04-20-2010, 09:39 AM
I hope they bring back Mr. Eko sometime in the next (and last) few episodes. He actually had a pretty big role back then and I'm kinda shocked Hurley hasn't encountered him at all in seasons 5+6 like he did with Ana Lucia and Michael, etc.
LiquidTurbo
04-20-2010, 09:49 PM
So I kinda thought tonight's episode sucked. I can't believe the end is here and it's still all like WTF.
At least we got confirmation that Jack's Father in Season 1 on the island was smoke monster after all.
Damn this show.
twitchyzero
04-20-2010, 09:57 PM
i thought overall a good episode
i'm surprised jack wants to stay
nice to see in the alternative world everyone's coming in together
palepilsenpin0y
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Yeah tonight's episode wasn't too great at all. Although the flash-sideways were pretty good. They're running out of episodes... I just hope they make the series finale the most epic episode ever
threezero
04-21-2010, 10:00 AM
now that they are starting to reveal all the mysteries from the beginning. Anybody else fell duped? I mean the explanations are logical and everything but it seems hastily done and answer in the most convenient way. I hope they do sumthing epic at the finale
bcedhk
04-21-2010, 11:16 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/Zipser/1271296042235.jpg
LiquidTurbo
04-21-2010, 10:07 PM
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5751/lostjack.jpg
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/havetogoback.jpg
Man, Jack is an indecisive tool. Telling Sun that he's going to bring her off the island, then jumping off of Sawyer's boat.. saying the island isn't done with them yet. WTF.
LiquidTurbo
04-21-2010, 10:09 PM
oh and now we know what the whispers are
COOL/
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/keameyanswers.jpg
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/captainnooo.jpg
palepilsenpin0y
04-22-2010, 12:22 AM
LOL @ LOL-LOST.com
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/myblanket.jpg
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/invisiblepeanutbutter.jpg
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bigbrotha.jpg
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/sawyerpew.jpg
http://lol-lost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/weeeeeeeee.jpg
Delish
05-04-2010, 09:10 PM
Tonight's episode UGHHHH.
twitchyzero
05-05-2010, 10:42 AM
am i the only person that doesn't like sayid? good riddance?
hmm tuesday's episode was wow...really did not expect anything like that to happen
i did not expect to see sayid and sun+jin die in the same episode. i wonder who else is going to get killed off lol
threezero
05-06-2010, 04:46 AM
How do you post spoilers.....
by the way this season is going i'm predicting every1 will die off except for THE candidate. looks like the pilot is die, there is no humanly way to get off the island
LiquidTurbo
05-11-2010, 09:24 PM
What did you guys think of tonight's episode?
kookoobird88
05-11-2010, 09:28 PM
it was kinda retarded....wasnt that impressed
LiquidTurbo
05-11-2010, 09:41 PM
Now we know how the smoke monster was formed.. GOODIE.
This episode just seem to be a huge stall for time until the series/season finale..
LiquidTurbo
05-11-2010, 09:42 PM
doublepost
LiquidTurbo
05-11-2010, 09:44 PM
How do you post spoilers.....
Wrap your text in [ spoiler] [/ spoiler] (with no spaces of course)
aditya92
05-11-2010, 10:50 PM
it was good but how does the wheele thingy get into the hole like in season 4 or 5 i think doesnt add up.... :s
twitchyzero
05-11-2010, 10:58 PM
i wonder what the potion is to make the island know who's the candidate
so we know the light holes is pockets of high electromagnetic activity (and I'm assuming that particular one is the precursor of the hatch)..but what does that have to do with time-travelling or creation of a smoke monster?
just one more episode + the series finale which is next sunday for 2.5 hours.
LiquidTurbo
05-12-2010, 11:31 PM
Hahahahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8JBYlNTf-Q&feature=player_embedded
twitchyzero
05-13-2010, 12:20 AM
jimmy kimmel next sunday after the finale will offer a few alternative endings to the finale
hm tuesdays episode was kind of boring to be honest. hope they really make up for it in the next 2.
twitchyzero
05-23-2010, 10:20 AM
2 hours series recap + 2.5 hours series finale + alternative endings at kimmel's show
finally!
LiquidTurbo
05-23-2010, 10:39 AM
Wow, 2.5hour finale!? wtf!
DsZ24
05-23-2010, 10:42 AM
nice, that's a whole lot of lost
twitchyzero
05-23-2010, 10:54 AM
Wow, 2.5hour finale!? wtf!
it's only really 1h40min w/o the commercials
i'm definately going to watch the recap again..forgot so much shit
LiquidTurbo
05-23-2010, 04:16 PM
6years.. it all comes down to tonight.. crazy.
stuff99
05-23-2010, 07:46 PM
I enjoyed the ending.
I'm going to miss them, but I'm thankful for the journey.
LiquidTurbo
05-23-2010, 08:04 PM
^ ehh wtf? how did you watch it already?
quasi
05-23-2010, 08:07 PM
Purgatory..........no shit. I don't know it kind of pisses me off because it was so predictable yet I wanted to believe something far cooler was going on. It needed to come to an end but I wouldn't say it was a great ending. It was alright, but somewhat predictable.
murd0c
05-23-2010, 08:11 PM
^ ehh wtf? how did you watch it already?
if you have digital or hd you can watch it 2hrs before on the 84 and 200+ channels
I'm good friends with Evangeline Lilly's father. I remember him telling me about the new gig her daughter was going to be in, way back when. At the time, it didn't seem to be a big deal. Amazing how the show caught on and how Nicole had become so famous.
StylinRed
05-23-2010, 08:16 PM
the finale fucking sucked....
what the fuck???
why would they all be @ the church... if there's still a handful of them that are on the island... and another group that flew off the island...
i get the letting go and moving on thing... they're like ghosts who refuse to move on to heaven/hell/whatever (they didn't want to be specific since they were including all religions) and they're in limbo until they all remembered.
but what about those fuckers who are on the island and havent died in the storyline yet and are still kicking it... why in the hell are they there... or if those on the island weren't real either (that wouldnt make sense) then wtf happened next with that
since all the dead islanders were there why wasn't Charles Whitmore there??
why would Hurley be moving on if he's still protecting the island...
if you have digital or hd you can watch it 2hrs before on the 84 and 200+ channels
Finished gardening and will be watching both shows that I recorded (PVR) earlier. Love it 'cause I can FF through the commercials. Right now, I'm watching ABC's 2 hour series summary that aired before the 2-1/2 hour finale.
murd0c
05-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Finished gardening and will be watching both shows that I recorded (PVR) earlier. Love it 'cause I can FF through the commercials. Right now, I'm watching ABC's 2 hour series summary that aired before the 2-1/2 hour finale.
yep im doing the exact thing. I didn't watch a couple season cause I got bored with it and this will be a great refresher.
7seven
05-23-2010, 08:23 PM
I'm good friends with Evangeline Lilly's father. I remember him telling me about the new gig her daughter was going to be in, way back when. At the time, it didn't seem to be a big deal. Amazing how the show caught on and how Nicole had become so famous.
I still remember when we had her on Smallville doing background work, before she got her break Lost, honestly never expected Lost to last this long.
Jimmy Kimmel is doing a Lost special right now with the cast on ch.205, apparently showing the alternate endings.
StylinRed
05-23-2010, 08:39 PM
I thought they were gonna make the islanders merge with there other selves
say everyone on the island got to the "light" and those @ the church when they open the doors they merge back into 1 and then move on
or as they flew off the island there's another "flash" and all their memories persons etc merge with those @ the church etc and they either get to live their life or have to move on etc
Delish
05-23-2010, 09:22 PM
the finale fucking sucked....
what the fuck???
why would they all be @ the church... if there's still a handful of them that are on the island... and another group that flew off the island...
i get the letting go and moving on thing... they're like ghosts who refuse to move on to heaven/hell/whatever (they didn't want to be specific since they were including all religions) and they're in limbo until they all remembered.
but what about those fuckers who are on the island and havent died in the storyline yet and are still kicking it... why in the hell are they there... or if those on the island weren't real either (that wouldnt make sense) then wtf happened next with that
since all the dead islanders were there why wasn't Charles Whitmore there??
why would Hurley be moving on if he's still protecting the island...
Dude.... are you serious? haha.. The alternate universe didn't exist at ALL. Period. Everything that happened in the alternate universe was just a CREATION to allow them to see each other again and move on. Jack never had a son, he was never married to Juliet, Sawyer was never a cop, etc etc. Everything that happened on the island DID happen. Jack died. Hurley and Ben became #1 and #2 protectors of the island (Hurley and Ben made references to this in the AU, indicating they were successful in doing so in the real timeline). Kate/Claire/Sawyer/Miles/Frank/Richard flew off the island in the plane, but it's open to our interpretation whether or not they actually made it back home. I like to think they did so that Kate could look after Ji Yeon, Claire could finally raise Aaron, and Sawyer could even find and be with his daughter Clementine.
The point of the alternate universe was so that all the Losties could be together again. Sort of like a non-denominational heaven. The alternate universe is not set in a specific time. Like Christian told Jack, everyone dies. You could die on the island, you could die off it. The plane carrying Kate and them could have made it back or they could have crashed into the ocean 10 minutes later. It doesn't matter. The entire point of the alternate universe was so they could find each other after death (hence the timeless aspect of it). Not everyone was in the church because not everyone mattered as much when it came to being part of the bigger picture I guess.
It's super cheesy when you think about it but the more I think about it, the more I've come to accept and even like the idea. Yes, the fans always suspected the show was about purgatory, but everything we saw on the island DID happen. It was only the alternate universe you could consider purgatory. Meh. Either way, I liked the last scene.
P.S. I saw the Kimmel aftershow and kinda relieved and bummed out that the alternate endings were actually spoofs. I guess it made sense since the writers said they always knew how the show was going to end.. wouldn't make sense to write real alternate endings
StylinRed
05-23-2010, 09:54 PM
Dude.... are you serious? haha.. The alternate universe didn't exist at ALL. Period. Everything that happened in the alternate universe was just a CREATION to allow them to see each other again and move on. Jack never had a son, he was never married to Juliet, Sawyer was never a cop, etc etc. Everything that happened on the island DID happen. Jack died. Hurley and Ben became #1 and #2 protectors of the island (Hurley and Ben made references to this in the AU, indicating they were successful in doing so in the real timeline). Kate/Claire/Sawyer/Miles/Frank/Richard flew off the island in the plane, but it's open to our interpretation whether or not they actually made it back home. I like to think they did so that Kate could look after Ji Yeon, Claire could finally raise Aaron, and Sawyer could even find and be with his daughter Clementine.
The point of the alternate universe was so that all the Losties could be together again. Sort of like a non-denominational heaven. The alternate universe is not set in a specific time. Like Christian told Jack, everyone dies. You could die on the island, you could die off it. The plane carrying Kate and them could have made it back or they could have crashed into the ocean 10 minutes later. It doesn't matter. The entire point of the alternate universe was so they could find each other after death (hence the timeless aspect of it). Not everyone was in the church because not everyone mattered as much when it came to being part of the bigger picture I guess.
It's super cheesy when you think about it but the more I think about it, the more I've come to accept and even like the idea. Yes, the fans always suspected the show was about purgatory, but everything we saw on the island DID happen. It was only the alternate universe you could consider purgatory. Meh. Either way, I liked the last scene.
P.S. I saw the Kimmel aftershow and kinda relieved and bummed out that the alternate endings were actually spoofs. I guess it made sense since the writers said they always knew how the show was going to end.. wouldn't make sense to write real alternate endings
yeah i get that the alternate reality is just limbo; but that doesnt make sense as to why those who didn't die were there too (especially Hurley and Linus)
edit ohhhhh wait i totally dismissed hurley telling linus "you were a good #2" ok that makes sense now
westcoastgsr
05-23-2010, 10:27 PM
Some other persons theory from another forum:
They all died at the crash on the plane in season 1.
Their sprits stayed on the island because they couldn't get to heaven yet for one reason. They had no heaven. They were all unhappy and alone when they "came" to the island. They needed the island and the people on the island to move to heaven TOGETHER. They made their heaven to pass into. In other words, they used each other to move on and formed their heaven by being happy and accepting of what happened to them.
Jacob= God/Heaven
Man in black= Devil/Hell
Jacob didn't want anyone to leave the island because he knew the "survivors" would need the island to move on to heaven.
The flash sideways:
When on island: way of coming together and being happy and letting go.
When off island: denial, haven't came to realization yet.
The title of the show says it best. LOST. When they all came to the island they were all lost within themselves and lonely. In the series finale, they move on and are no longer lost. Which is why they move on to heaven.
westcoastgsr
05-23-2010, 10:30 PM
More questions people probably want to know (again I took it off another forum)
Polar bear on island?
man in black way of trying to get people off island. making the island seem weird and crazy and therefore the "survivors" want to get off. Because the island was used to move on and accept death, thats why jacob didn't want anyone to leave.
How did the man in black become the smoke monster, yet no one else did?
Jack and Desmond were already dead when they went down there. Man in black originally got pushed down there long before anyone else and he was alive at time.
Is this their afterlife? Is it heaven, purgatory, or hell?
purgatory.
What is the island?
Way of accepting death. without the island, the people on the plane were "lost" and unhappy. island was a place to come together and accept death and fianlly be happy.
Who are the other others? (Leaded by the asian man who was drowned...introduced in season 6). Where did they come from?
there was no others. they were all make belief so it was easier to move to afterlife.
What is Daniel Faraday & his mom's connection to the island?
Can be viewed as disiples of god. helped bring them back to island and helped them all go to heaven.
How did Juliet have a flashback of herself dying, while she was alive?
when was this? i dont remember this.
Who is Charles Widmore? What excactly is his connection to the island?
I BELIEVE it is someone who has died and helps the "survivors" move on and unite through obsticales.
How was the island found by the Dharma iniative, if it couldn't be picked up by any satellites when the plane crashed?
Dharma was fake. It was a way of helping survivors unite and work together.
Why do pregnant women die on the island, except for Claire?
because Claire was already dead. she died in crash.
What is the significance of the statue on the island, with the missing foot?
I actually dont know. dont think its significant.
What is the fire pit in the hole of light that needs to be protected? The one that Jack "Plugged" with the rock? Is it Hell?
Hell. Yes.
In season 6, why were there 2 alternate universes on and off the island? Which was real?
When on island: way of accepting death. they are working together to move on to heaven.
when off island: denial of death. havent realized it yet.
How is Hurley in the final scene? Who is protecting the light?
No one. The island was a way to accept death and make friendships and be happy before passing on to heaven. all plane survivors were unhappy and lost before the crash.
Where were Michael, Anna Lucia, Alex, and others in the Final scene?
non existent, they werent on plane so they never died.
Where is Jin & Sun's baby?
Never had it, they died before the island. baby was a symbole of happiness that brought them closer.
Why didn't Ben go into the church at the end? Did he go to hell?
He never died in plane crash, he was already on island.
Did the show ever explain the numbers? (4 8 15 16 23 42). Someone mentioned the Valenzetti equation, can anyone elaborate?
I think its all biblical. I think maybe 4 8 stands for April 8th. Which was easter, which is birth of jesus. other numbers maybe represent a bible verse. havent dugged in to far.
Delish
05-23-2010, 10:31 PM
yeah i get that the alternate reality is just limbo; but that doesnt make sense as to why those who didn't die were there too (especially Hurley and Linus)
edit ohhhhh wait i totally dismissed hurley telling linus "you were a good #2" ok that makes sense now
I don't know if you understand it now, but rewatch Christian's scene with Jack and it should help. Jack asked Christian if everyone at the church was dead. Christian replied that everyone dies. Some have died before him (Boone, Shannon, Sayid, Sun, Jin), and some lived long after him (again, left for us to decide.. Perhaps Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Desmond, Penny, Hurley and Ben). The alternate universe is timeless. Could have taken place sooner than later, or could have happened 50 years after the real timeline.
Delish
05-23-2010, 10:39 PM
Some other persons theory from another forum:
They all died at the crash on the plane in season 1.
Their sprits stayed on the island because they couldn't get to heaven yet for one reason. They had no heaven. They were all unhappy and alone when they "came" to the island. They needed the island and the people on the island to move to heaven TOGETHER. They made their heaven to pass into. In other words, they used each other to move on and formed their heaven by being happy and accepting of what happened to them.
Jacob= God/Heaven
Man in black= Devil/Hell
Jacob didn't want anyone to leave the island because he knew the "survivors" would need the island to move on to heaven.
The flash sideways:
When on island: way of coming together and being happy and letting go.
When off island: denial, haven't came to realization yet.
The title of the show says it best. LOST. When they all came to the island they were all lost within themselves and lonely. In the series finale, they move on and are no longer lost. Which is why they move on to heaven.
I'm 99% sure that the writers of LOST have stated since the beginning that the Losties were very much alive on the island (The island-being-purgatory theory was the most popular theory at the time). The island was not purgatory. The alternate universe on the other hand, is.
LUUUUUUUU
05-23-2010, 10:42 PM
i'm still LOST! :cry:
carisear
05-23-2010, 10:48 PM
i'm still LOST! :cry:
i've only seen seasons 1-4, skipped 5 and 6 almost completely, but i thought it was a great wrap up. explained the island to me. shit finally made sense to me after all these years.
LiquidTurbo
05-23-2010, 10:53 PM
Mixed feelings!
LUUUUUUUU
05-23-2010, 11:00 PM
so wut happen to richard alpert? he became human again when notice his grey hair?
twitchyzero
05-23-2010, 11:04 PM
ok i'm not going to bother with spoiler tags since it already aired
the ending was somewhat predictable, but it was great. jack dying with vincent and ending the scene with his eyes closed was the exact reverse of the opening scene in the pilot that aired 6 years back.
the flashback scenes in the finale made me wanted to watch season 1 again ( i didn't get the catch the 2 hour summary prior to)
the way i interpreted it was the flashing sideway is essentially a space for the cast to realize their connections with the island. once the realization occurs, they can finally move on into heaven. it's why christian mentioned everyone dies to jack. i'd think kate/sawyer and those that actually left the island died eventually in their normal lives...where as jack died protecting the island. the only flaw is i thought the candidate (Hurley) would live forever (unless it only applies to Jacob)..then why would he be in the ending scene going to 'heaven'?
i dont remember what happened maybe few episode back, but what made ben linus realized his connections with the island?
edit: lol i'm guessing stylinred didn't watch season 5 and 6 or didn't really pay attention.
so wut happen to richard alpert? he became human again when notice his grey hair?
cause jacob was the one that granted him immortality..but he died..so he becomes mortal again. But you're right the writers left richard to our imaginations i guess..kinda lame.
overall still a great finale..just a little disappointed they could've tried placing this by season 4 when the freight boat was exploding...the whole 'let's flash back and fowards in time to confuse the shit outta people' season (season 5) was not really necessary.
LUUUUUUUU
05-23-2010, 11:07 PM
kimmel!
LiquidTurbo
05-23-2010, 11:16 PM
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo111/softcoeur/finalecap.jpg
LiquidTurbo
05-23-2010, 11:22 PM
Another person's opinion on another forum pretty much sums up how I feel:
yeah... faking scientific and logical explanations and then saying "afterlife!"
damn lazy retard writers.
So how was the smoke monster explained? Well, the dark hair kid got tossed into the light and he came out. I know what happened, but explain it logically. It's just made-up bullshit.
And what about the flash-sideways lives. So they're just not real? He really didn't have a son like Locke said to Jack?
Was it just Jack's way of getting closure? I know they're trying to say, "we see jack die on the island but everyone else dies at different times but all meet up here because there is no time here, since it's the afterlife, see, that's why kate says 'i've missed you for so long' alluding to the fact that she survived as Jack looked at the plane get away and lived a nice long life before dying herself and then meeting up with Jack int he place where there's no time."
Still, it's just fancy BS for no logical explanations for shit.
And yes I know how hurley and ben continued to guard the island for years afterwards.
But then again, explain that to us. Guarding the light or the source or whatever? What the hell is that anyway? just more made up crap.
Still, the show was great and directed well and executed nicely but the answers were not there and for writers who touted logical and rational explanations, they really did just fuck us in the ass.
Kinda figured it was purgatory but was hoping that they would come out with something else to amaze me. Decent ending but the flashbacks (esp. the ones with love connections) were excellent.
You guys should stop with the spoilers. Series has ended and if you haven't seen it yet then you deserve to be spoiled by coming into this thread. It's annoying clicking on that button for every post.
Seeing Shannon again was definitely great :bowdown:
westcoastgsr
05-24-2010, 12:27 AM
The ending was way better than Sapranoes...that was a kick to the nuts type of ending. I watched the ending again, at first i didnt really like it but now I think its the right ending for the show. You cant explain everything, you gotta leave somethings for viewers to decide on their own.
ALL I GOT TO SAY NOW IS....24 SERIES FINALE ON IN LESS THEN 24 HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LUUUUUUUU
05-24-2010, 12:52 AM
greatest show ever
What can I say? Six years of religiously watching every fucking episode.
Could be worse, I guess........ like watching/hearing every fucking Canucks game for 40 years, LOL.
dub.g
05-24-2010, 01:09 AM
What exactly did Desmond say to Jack again while he was tying him with the rope and before going down into the light?
i thought he was referring to the "alternate timeline" or something..
Did anyone see the running shoe on the bamboo?
twitchyzero
05-24-2010, 01:28 AM
Did anyone see the running shoe on the bamboo?
yeah what scene was that again? i have the worst memory for this show.
man i still love season one...when locke was a boar hunter
StylinRed
05-24-2010, 02:00 AM
I don't know if you understand it now, but rewatch Christian's scene with Jack and it should help. Jack asked Christian if everyone at the church was dead. Christian replied that everyone dies. Some have died before him (Boone, Shannon, Sayid, Sun, Jin), and some lived long after him (again, left for us to decide.. Perhaps Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Desmond, Penny, Hurley and Ben). The alternate universe is timeless. Could have taken place sooner than later, or could have happened 50 years after the real timeline.
yeah it all came together ;) :thumbsup:
G-spec
05-24-2010, 02:16 AM
Good finale, but I'm still a little annoyed with the ending as I was into the show not just for the characters personal stories, but also from the scientific standpoint. So I would have liked explanations as to what the island exactly was, what risk did it pose to the world and what is the black smoke monster, and other relative questions.
The personal stories are nice and all, made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing everyone back together smiling and happy....
except I didn't see my main man Mr. Eko, that's my favorite character from the show, he had the best story, and he was the biggest badass on the whole fckin island, went face to face with the smoke monster and didn't flinch, went out like a g
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/061101/061101_eko_vlrg.widec.jpg
But once the fuzzy feelings wore off, I was left with many a question!
The whole devil island concept is very interesting to me, because in my religion we believe, and to us it's fact that the physical manifestation of the devil actually exists on earth somewhere on a hidden island. The being is chained up however and kept secured until the end of times, and then the soul of the devil will inhabit the body and break free from the chains and go on a world wide tour, lol... The island is also protected by a gatekeeper who slays any humans that happen to come across the island. I'm almost sure the creators lifted some aspects of this for the show, too big of a coincidence, too many similarities
StylinRed
05-24-2010, 03:28 AM
The whole devil island concept is very interesting to me, because in my religion we believe, and to us it's fact that the physical manifestation of the devil actually exists on earth somewhere on a hidden island. The being is chained up however and kept secured until the end of times, and then the soul of the devil will inhabit the body and break free from the chains and go on a world wide tour, lol... The island is also protected by a gatekeeper who slays any humans that happen to come across the island. I'm almost sure the creators lifted some aspects of this for the show, too big of a coincidence, too many similarities
would you mind telling me what religion that is? sounds pretty cool
and yeah the show seems to have (on purpose) taken elements from a plethora of religions/beliefs
hence that spirtual temple? (wouldnt call it a church) had items/symbols from most prominent faiths
yeah what scene was that again?
When Jack is about to "die" and is scrambling through the bamboo forest.
In the two hour ABC special before the finale, the writers talk about easter eggs. I guess this was mentioned to promote their DVD series. People like this kind of shit.
Anyway, I'm done with this show. The island will not draw me to it.
Crowtservo
05-24-2010, 08:26 AM
I thought it was perfect. They didn't answer every detail about the island and some events but they didn't have to. The show was about the characters and I think they did a great job of bringing their stories to an end.
palepilsenpin0y
05-24-2010, 09:54 AM
I personally loved the unique and deep ending.
Great show, great run.
=/
twitchyzero
05-24-2010, 09:54 AM
odd how the show never gave the man in black a name..i was hoping they did this on purpose to turn it around as a twist that it's actually a character we know in the main cast.
palepilsenpin0y
05-24-2010, 09:58 AM
odd how the show never gave the man in black a name..i was hoping they did this on purpose to turn it around as a twist that it's actually a character we know in the main cast.
I knew they were never going to give him a name.
That was intentional and extremely significant. In my opinion, it's because it's hard to name someone who is biblically supposed to represent Lucifer.
Jacob, on the other hand, is a biblical character. Jacob (in the Bible) was the father of the Jewish people.
Too lazy to quote anything or give any outside opinions to complement mine. Haha
DsZ24
05-24-2010, 10:40 AM
I liked the ending. Wrapped things up nicely bringing most of the characters together again at the end. They didn't answer every little thing, but with the way this show has gone over the years I don't think anyone was expecting them to.
LiquidTurbo
05-24-2010, 10:49 AM
Can anyone tell me how exactly they were able to 'move' the island in season 4.. or the reasoning behind it?
carisear
05-24-2010, 11:11 AM
have you guys seen the jimmy kimmel alternate endings? LOL at the bob newhart one!
carisear
05-24-2010, 11:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKyjeRodd4
twitchyzero
05-24-2010, 11:33 AM
the lost spoof commercial for bud light + target were pretty luls as well.
Crowtservo
05-24-2010, 10:26 PM
haha yeah i loved the LOST ads. I hope they continue to air those for a bit. The keyboard one was hilarious.
taylor192
05-25-2010, 11:32 AM
Purgatory..........no shit. I don't know it kind of pisses me off because it was so predictable yet I wanted to believe something far cooler was going on. It needed to come to an end but I wouldn't say it was a great ending. It was alright, but somewhat predictable.
The island is purgatory. Purgatory is a place to purify your soul - there was no purification in the flash-sideways, all Jack's demons were faced on the island. Once Jack had the idea for the bomb, his role of savior was set and the flash-sideways the start of the path towards salvation.
The ending ruined this show's place in history. Now it will just be tossed aside as another good show, nolonger memorable.
What made LOST interesting was people imagining how the various plots twists are linked together. The characters were great, and their stories great, yet they are not what created the cult-like audience. I hated the recap show and the writers explaining the focus was on the characters, it pretty much foreshadowed the ending was going to ignore all of what happened on the island in favour of wrapping up the character's stories - ie not what the audience was expecting.
Thus the ending took away what made the show great - the audience guessing about the meaning of the crazy happenings on the island. How many of your LOST obsessed friends discuss how the various things on the island are connected, yet ignore the trials and tribulation of the characters? Probably most, if not all. The writers took all this away in the worst way possible by making all the crazy happenings imaginary - ie you can discount everything and just say it was a made up world of purgatory, done and done, no imagination required.
LiquidTurbo
05-25-2010, 12:02 PM
^
What's retarded it in first season, the writers said that the island was not purgatory. And I think they meant it. The alternative universe was the purgatory.. and at the Church they moved onto 'heaven' when Christian opened the door.. (shining light).
So what happened on the island, happened..
Expresso
05-25-2010, 02:02 PM
^
What's retarded it in first season, the writers said that the island was not purgatory. And I think they meant it. The alternative universe was the purgatory.. and at the Church they moved onto 'heaven' when Christian opened the door.. (shining light).
So what happened on the island, happened..
I'm with you on this one as well. They all needed each other before they could move on so the flash sideways was created to give them that time and space.
skholla
05-25-2010, 02:13 PM
^
yup, the island was real life, stuff happened, people died on and off the island, during and after the series ended.
only the flash sideway world was purgatory, the characters had been through so much in life that they couldnt move on in the after-life without one another, they had to reconnect, make peace and do it together... live together, die alone.
taylor192
05-25-2010, 02:34 PM
^
yup, the island was real life, stuff happened, people died on and off the island, during and after the series ended.
only the flash sideway world was purgatory, the characters had been through so much in life that they couldnt move on in the after-life without one another, they had to reconnect, make peace and do it together... live together, die alone.
What peace did they make in the flash sideways? Jack, sure, peace with his son and career - yet the others? Sun/Jin are doomed to forever run from he father. Sayid was off to jail with Kate. Desmond ran over Locke and beat the crap out of Ben. Ben probably made the most peace, yet then decides not to go. Claire pumps out a kid. Charlie and Shannon do nothing more than show up. ...
Miles is in the flash-sideways too, yet I don't remember if he was at the church? Why bring him into the flash-sideways at all? That's right - the whole thing is made up to make no sense.
twitchyzero
05-25-2010, 09:01 PM
^ sideways was just a dimension for the main cast to reconnect
it doesn't mean that everyone needs to move on to their afterlife together
the crazy japanese guy was also in the sideways (at the piano recital)
LIVE TOGETHER, DIE ALONE..dun dun dun
LiquidTurbo
05-25-2010, 09:37 PM
Writers are stupid "The Island isn't about purgatory"... they weaseled their way out of it by creating an alternate Universe that happened to be purgatory..
Oh well..
Personally I would have liked to see an ending that lead up to the beginning of the Alternate Reality, showing that whatever sacrifices island Jack made, allowed them to bypass the island reality all together. Or something along those lines..
Delish
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
The writers have revealed the name of The Man In Black/Smokey...
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/05/man_in_blacks_name_revealed.html?utm_source=feedbu rner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nymag%2Fvulture+%28Vulture+-+nymag.com%27s+Entertainment+and+Culture+Blog%29
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LiquidTurbo
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
Who cares? (not to your post... to the writers...) Not like it really matters anymore.. what was the point of the secrecy? What are they gonna do next? Tell us Jacob's last name?
skholla
05-25-2010, 11:49 PM
sorry, not to make peace but just to remember and sort things out. the actions and events in the flash sideways were irrelevant, they were interesting and conveniently lined up with scenes on the island at times.
sure not everyone crossed over at the end but they would have eventually when the time was right. maybe ben put in some work in to make others remember too...
What peace did they make in the flash sideways? Jack, sure, peace with his son and career - yet the others? Sun/Jin are doomed to forever run from he father. Sayid was off to jail with Kate. Desmond ran over Locke and beat the crap out of Ben. Ben probably made the most peace, yet then decides not to go. Claire pumps out a kid. Charlie and Shannon do nothing more than show up. ...
Miles is in the flash-sideways too, yet I don't remember if he was at the church? Why bring him into the flash-sideways at all? That's right - the whole thing is made up to make no sense.
palepilsenpin0y
05-26-2010, 12:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQDPU2dFMbU&feature=related
iwantaskyline
05-26-2010, 01:30 AM
The island is purgatory. Purgatory is a place to purify your soul - there was no purification in the flash-sideways, all Jack's demons were faced on the island. Once Jack had the idea for the bomb, his role of savior was set and the flash-sideways the start of the path towards salvation.
The ending ruined this show's place in history. Now it will just be tossed aside as another good show, nolonger memorable.
What made LOST interesting was people imagining how the various plots twists are linked together. The characters were great, and their stories great, yet they are not what created the cult-like audience. I hated the recap show and the writers explaining the focus was on the characters, it pretty much foreshadowed the ending was going to ignore all of what happened on the island in favour of wrapping up the character's stories - ie not what the audience was expecting.
Thus the ending took away what made the show great - the audience guessing about the meaning of the crazy happenings on the island. How many of your LOST obsessed friends discuss how the various things on the island are connected, yet ignore the trials and tribulation of the characters? Probably most, if not all. The writers took all this away in the worst way possible by making all the crazy happenings imaginary - ie you can discount everything and just say it was a made up world of purgatory, done and done, no imagination required.
What happened on the ISLAND is NOT imaginary whatsoever. Some of the characters died on the island (Jack for example) and some died years later off the island (Kate/Sawyer).
That is exactly what Jack's father told him inside the church, "Everyone dies at some point, some of you died on the island and some of you died somewhere else at later times. But you all created this world so you can all find each-other, so you can remember.". Those aren't the exact lines of Jack's dad's but they're pretty close.
Here's another point. Hurley told Ben he made a great #2 and Ben told Hurley he made a great #1 proving that both Hurley and Ben lived on the island for quite some time as the new Jacob & Richard even after Jack died.
Flash sideways like many have said is just a place for them to reconnect with the most important people in their lives.
However I would still like to know where the heck that polar bear came from.
taylor192
05-26-2010, 07:36 AM
What happened on the ISLAND is NOT imaginary whatsoever. Some of the characters died on the island (Jack for example) and some died years later off the island (Kate/Sawyer).
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, even if you're wrong.
That is exactly what Jack's father told him inside the church, "Everyone dies at some point, some of you died on the island and some of you died somewhere else at later times. But you all created this world so you can all find each-other, so you can remember.". Those aren't the exact lines of Jack's dad's but they're pretty close.
You could also take this to mean the island was the world that was created, and some people died when the plane crashed, and others like Ben, Juliet, Richard, and Miles died elsewhere cause they weren't on the plane.
Don't you love how the show is open to interpretation? and with the cheeseball ending I can basically say everything was made up, and nothing has to make sense.
Here's another point. Hurley told Ben he made a great #2 and Ben told Hurley he made a great #1 proving that both Hurley and Ben lived on the island for quite some time as the new Jacob & Richard even after Jack died.
Remember, it is all made up in Jack's mind, the island and everyone else never existed.
Flash sideways like many have said is just a place for them to reconnect with the most important people in their lives.
Everyone else gets it, while Jack does not even after being told by Kate. To me that says everyone else is there to help Jack, and the island, flash sideways, ... was all created in Jack's mind to help Jack transition.
PS: Don't bother with "you're wrong and this is why" cause the cheeseball ending left the door open to say everything was made up.
However I would still like to know where the heck that polar bear came from.
Remember, it is all made up in Jack's mind, the polar bear never existed.
Expresso
05-26-2010, 08:54 AM
^ lol, it's not Doraemon! You can believe it or not, but the general consensus is the island is real and the flash sideways was "purgatory". Just do a quick google.
twitchyzero
05-26-2010, 09:41 AM
i thought polar bears were on the island as part of the DHARMA experiements?
taylor192
05-26-2010, 09:51 AM
^ lol, it's not Doraemon! You can believe it or not, but the general consensus is the island is real and the flash sideways was "purgatory". Just do a quick google.
The general consensus is LOST fans are delusional, cause the rest of us don't understand the obsession with trying to unravel drivel from writers who intentionally made indecipherable plot lines with no plausible connection.
That aside, there's enough speculation online to support my opinion that everyone died when the plane crashed, and the writers left the ending open to that interpretation.
Besides the whole purpose of this show is to make the audience think and discuss plausible meanings and outcomes. If you need to google your opinion, the show failed you.
:p
taylor192
05-26-2010, 09:59 AM
i thought polar bears were on the island as part of the DHARMA experiements?
No. Long before Jacob and Samuel's mother there was an incident that caused the island to move, ending up in the arctic. Polar bears roamed the island devouring the inhabitants until one of them discovered a reservoir on the peak of one of the mountains and filled it with sacrificial blood of a polar bear. This triggered a monumental event that moved the island back to its present location. The polar bear population has since dwindled to the lone polar bear that remained and was seen in that episode.
Damn, I should apply to write for the next show.
LiquidTurbo
05-26-2010, 10:11 AM
We all sat through six seasons of stalling tactics to find out that someone had to move a rock and then put it back? The Smoke Monster was killed by a gunshot wound to the torso? Everybody on "Lost" is killed with a gunshot wound to the torso! They're just recycling the same exploding blood FX packets! I bet Smoke-Monster/Locke and Shannon had the same device strapped to their stomachs!
But who cares? Again, we had a parallel storyline where everything was fine. Locke could walk, no one died, everyone's about to get laid, Jack's dad is preposterously walking into Heaven at the show's final moments. Oh, and there's Boone--another character killed years ago in one of the show's darker moments--now resurrected to serve no purpose.
The narrative disaster draws even more attention to the show's supremely silly, nonsensical mythology in which two brothers are waging war against each other through "flawed" proxies. But they're not allowed to directly kill the "candidates" or something. Except they can kill them if the rock comes out of the hole in the room with all the light. Or something.
LOL @ this reviewer..
How lost should've ended:
http://i.imgur.com/wtzBE.gif
iwantaskyline
05-27-2010, 01:34 AM
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/05/26/lost-bonus-12-14-minute-epilogue-will-be-released-on-dvd/
Bonus feature on the DVD that will have details about Hurley's time as being the "new" Jacob and Ben's as Richard.
LiquidTurbo
05-27-2010, 01:53 AM
^ haha writers trolling hard.
twitchyzero
05-27-2010, 09:12 AM
How lost should've ended:
http://i.imgur.com/wtzBE.gif
:haha:
LiquidTurbo
05-27-2010, 03:21 PM
http://asset.soup.io/asset/0843/6190_e44c_500.jpeg
threezero
05-27-2010, 04:17 PM
Although I was expecting the ending to explain all the mystery, I accept it the way it is. I beleive in the theory that the island was real the alt universe is the purgatory. imo the most sensible conclusion is everybody dies, as far as i'm concern the ppl that "left" ont he plane die too. Just because you have a pilot doesn't mean you will have enough fuel to fly to the next closest piece of land which is god knows where. Hurley and Ben, the old couple on the island die eventually too, as far as I can tell the only two person that could be immortal is jacob (and richard but that link to jacob) and Samuel and at the their "curse" was all lifted one way or another.
If I were one of the ppl on the island, the best way to die would be through that alt universe, the most important people to all of them were no longer the ppl they had before their crash, it was everybody on the island and their struggle together. I would feel bless if I can get to feel the same before i die I can get to a place where I can met with all the important people in my life, make peace and move on
LiquidTurbo
06-06-2010, 09:23 PM
HAhahahahahaha
Unanswered Lost Questions - CollegeHumor video
twitchyzero
06-06-2010, 09:31 PM
lol
some scenes were created earlier on so the writers could tie it back...but they failed to do so.
the biggest question that still bothers me left unasnwered is why christian appears on the freighter and back in LA
LiquidTurbo
06-06-2010, 10:35 PM
He forgot the biggest WTF for me.. how the hell did Locke's DAD get to the island via the 'magic box'?
westcoastgsr
06-07-2010, 12:12 AM
HAhahahahahaha
Unanswered Lost Questions - CollegeHumor video (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291)
Man this just shows the writers were just making shit up as the season went on. lol. I still loved the show tho,
raygunpk
06-08-2010, 07:35 PM
Someone from Bad Robot's take on the Finale
http://www.lost.com/forum/showthread.php?p=413942
First …
The Island:
It was real. Everything that happened on the island that we saw throughout the 6 seasons was real. Forget the final image of the plane crash, it was put in purposely to f*&k with people’s heads and show how far the show had come. They really crashed. They really survived. They really discovered Dharma and the Others. The Island keeps the balance of good and evil in the world. It always has and always will perform that role. And the Island will always need a “Protector”. Jacob wasn’t the first, Hurley won’t be the last. However, Jacob had to deal with a malevolent force (MIB) that his mother, nor Hurley had to deal with. He created the devil and had to find a way to kill him — even though the rules prevented him from actually doing so.
Thus began Jacob’s plan to bring candidates to the Island to do the one thing he couldn’t do. Kill the MIB. He had a huge list of candidates that spanned generations. Yet everytime he brought people there, the MIB corrupted them and caused them to kill one another. That was until Richard came along and helped Jacob understand that if he didn’t take a more active role, then his plan would never work.
Enter Dharma — which I’m not sure why John is having such a hard time grasping. Dharma, like the countless scores of people that were brought to the island before, were brought there by Jacob as part of his plan to kill the MIB. However, the MIB was aware of this plan and interferred by “corrupting” Ben. Making Ben believe he was doing the work of Jacob when in reality he was doing the work of the MIB. This carried over into all of Ben’s “off-island” activities. He was the leader. He spoke for Jacob as far as they were concerned. So the “Others” killed Dharma and later were actively trying to kill Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and all the candidates because that’s what the MIB wanted. And what he couldn’t do for himself.
Dharma was originally brought in to be good. But was turned bad by MIB’s corruption and eventually destroyed by his pawn Ben. Now, was Dharma only brought there to help Jack and the other Candidates on their overall quest to kill Smokey? Or did Jacob have another list of Canidates from the Dharma group that we were never aware of? That’s a question that is purposley not answered because whatever answer the writers came up with would be worse than the one you come up with for yourself. Still … Dharma’s purpose is not “pointless” or even vague. Hell, it’s pretty blantent.
Still, despite his grand plan, Jacob wanted to give his “candidates” (our Lostaways) the one thing he, nor his brother, were ever afforded: free will. Hence him bringing a host of “candidates” through the decades and letting them “choose” which one would actually do the job in the end. Maybe he knew Jack would be the one to kill Flocke and that Hurley would be the protector in the end. Maybe he didn’t. But that was always the key question of the show: Fate vs Free-will. Science vs Faith. Personally I think Jacob knew from the beginning what was going to happen and that everyone played a part over 6 seasons in helping Jack get to the point where he needed to be to kill Smokey and make Hurley the protector — I know that’s how a lot of the writers viewed it. But again, they won’t answer that (nor should they) because that ruins the fun.
In the end, Jack got to do what he always wanted to do from the very first episode of the show: Save his fellow Lostaways. He got Kate and Sawyer off the island and he gave Hurley the purpose in life he’d always been missing. And, in Sideways world (which we’ll get to next) he in fact saved everyone by helping them all move on …
Now…
Sideways World:
Sideways world is where it gets really cool in terms of theology and metaphysical discussion (for me at least — because I love history/religion theories and loved all the talks in the writer’s room about it). Basically what the show is proposing is that we’re all linked to certain people during our lives. Call them soulmates (though it’s not exactly the best word). But these people we’re linked to are with us duing “the most important moments of our lives” as Christian said. These are the people we move through the universe with from lifetime to lifetime. It’s loosely based in Hinduisim with large doses of western religion thrown into the mix.
The conceit that the writers created, basing it off these religious philosophies, was that as a group, the Lostaways subconsciously created this “sideways” world where they exist in purgatory until they are “awakened” and find one another. Once they all find one another, they can then move on and move forward. In essence, this is the show’s concept of the afterlife. According to the show, everyone creates their own “Sideways” purgatory with their “soulmates” throughout their lives and exist there until they all move on together. That’s a beautiful notion. Even if you aren’t religious or even spirtual, the idea that we live AND die together is deeply profound and moving.
It’s a really cool and spirtual concept that fits the whole tone and subtext the show has had from the beginning. These people were SUPPOSED to be together on that plane. They were supposed to live through these events — not JUST because of Jacob. But because that’s what the universe or God (depending on how religious you wish to get) wanted to happen. The show was always about science vs faith — and it ultimately came down on the side of faith. It answered THE core question of the series. The one question that has been at the root of every island mystery, every character backstory, every plot twist. That, by itself, is quite an accomplishment.
How much you want to extrapolate from that is up to you as the viewer. Think about season 1 when we first found the Hatch. Everyone thought that’s THE answer! Whatever is down there is the answer! Then, as we discovered it was just one station of many. One link in a very long chain that kept revealing more, and more of a larger mosiac.
But the writer’s took it even further this season by contrasting this Sideways “purgatory” with the Island itself. Remember when Michael appeared to Hurley, he said he was not allowed to leave the Island. Just like the MIB. He wasn’t allowed into this sideways world and thus, was not afforded the opportunity to move on. Why? Because he had proven himself to be unworthy with his actions on the Island. He failed the test. The others, passed. They made it into Sideways world when they died — some before Jack, some years later. In Hurley’s case, maybe centuries later. They exist in this sideways world until they are “awakened” and they can only move on TOGETHER because they are linked. They are destined to be together for eternity. That was their destiny.
They were NOT linked to Anna Lucia, Daniel, Roussou, Alex, Miles, Lupidis, (and all the rest who weren’t in the chuch — basically everyone who wasn’t in season 1). Yet those people exist in Sideways world. Why? Well again, here’s where they leave it up to you to decide. The way I like to think about it, is that those people who were left behind in Sideways world have to find their own soulmates before they can wake up. It’s possible that those links aren’t people from the island but from their other life (Anna’s parnter, the guy she shot — Roussou’s husband, etc etc).
A lot of people have been talking about Ben and why he didn’t go into the Church. And if you think of Sideways world in this way, then it gives you the answer to that very question. Ben can’t move on yet because he hasn’t connected with the people he needs to. It’s going to be his job to awaken Roussou, Alex, Anna Lucia (maybe), Ethan, Goodspeed, his father and the rest. He has to attone for his sins more than he did by being Hurley’s number two. He has to do what Hurley and Desmond did for our Lostaways with his own people. He has to help them connect. And he can only move on when all the links in his chain are ready to. Same can be said for Faraday, Charlotte, Whidmore, Hawkins etc. It’s really a neat, and cool concept. At least to me.
But, from a more “behind the scenes” note: the reason Ben’s not in the church, and the reason no one is in the church but for Season 1 people is because they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot. And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn’t believe them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode. I applaud them for that. It’s pretty fantastic. Originally Ben was supposed to have a 3 episode arc and be done. But he became a big part of the show. They could have easily changed their ending and put him in the church — but instead they problem solved it. Gave him a BRILLIANT moment with Locke outside the church … and then that was it. I loved that. For those that wonder — the original ending started the moment Jack walked into the church and touches the casket to Jack closing his eyes as the other plane flies away. That was always JJ’s ending. And they kept it.
For me the ending of this show means a lot. Not only because I worked on it, but because as a writer it inspired me in a way the medium had never done before. I’ve been inspired to write by great films. Maybe too many to count. And there have been amazing TV shows that I’ve loved (X-Files, 24, Sopranos, countless 1/2 hour shows). But none did what LOST did for me. None showed me that you could take huge risks (writing a show about faith for network TV) and stick to your creative guns and STILL please the audience. I learned a lot from the show as a writer. I learned even more from being around the incredible writers, producers, PAs, interns and everyone else who slaved on the show for 6 years.
In the end, for me, LOST was a touchstone show that dealt with faith, the afterlife, and all these big, spirtual questions that most shows don’t touch. And to me, they never once waivered from their core story — even with all the sci-fi elements they mixed in. To walk that long and daunting of a creative tightrope and survive is simply astounding."
i still doubt that they kept the same ending all along. who knows if this is really a writer, but some interesting points and a more "simplistic" view of the plot as a whole.
skholla
06-08-2010, 10:13 PM
good find, here's your answer...
Update: 26th May I've spoken to ABC and they have confirmed that this person did use to work for ABC as an Intern but were released 3 years ago.
Word on the net is there's an epilogue floating around somewhere (will be included in the retail DVD set). Anyone know where I can find it online? I haven't seen it at my usual digs.
dub.g
08-12-2010, 11:05 PM
every flash video site had their vids taken down by abc right away
ur best bet is torrents, its only 12 mins long.. definitely an interesting short video.. it answers questions.......... well questions about the island in general...
and the ending is interesting...... because it felt like a cliffhanger ending.. it just makes u want more LOST!, highly doubt it will continue, let the show end on a high note
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