[tofu1413]

as title states.


what is there to look for in an "average" priced R32 GT-R..? (say about $14k)



besides regular maintanence (t belt, water pump etc) what else is there to look for..?


asking this for a friend whom is sort of looking for one (other options are RHD FD RX7's and 04+ WRX)



share some experiences!

[1exotic]

check if the e-brake works good because it could have been used in underground drift battles and races... according to that guy that was on global news "if we find a good place to race, we will actually close the road down and do it".

just throwing that out there.

[NeoDestinyZ]

Look for exterior, engine bay, interior wear. I have GTR friends that claims and notice that their GTR got rollback, check the history if possible for the real kms. Do compression and leak down tests, check for rusts and dents etc.

[StealthFighter]

check if the e-brake works good because it could have been used in underground drift battles and races... according to that guy that was on global news "if we find a good place to race, we will actually close the road down and do it".

just throwing that out there.

"road's close pizza boy, find another way home"

[Onassis]

It's cheaper usually to find a GTR that's already landed as opposed to importing one.

Send your buddy over to http://gtrcanada.com/

[thumper]

it's a 15 year old + car. expect trouble. being a car that isn't local (let alone from the same continent) makes it harder to find an honest one.

some stuff i went through with a friend who was looking for one...

- busted dash vents and big bubble in vinyl on passenger side, holes and butchered electrical harness from DIY aftermarket gauge install
- if it's got something like a nismo speedo, there is a pretty good chance the odo reading is not correct.
- rust in the rear quarter panels around the wheelwells, rocker panels (ie. open the door and look down), under the rear wing or the lip on the nose, a-pillars. basically, try and look for one that didn't come from northern japan, etc.
- vertically scratched door glass and bunched up window seals mean trouble (difficult to see through, expensive to fix)
- rubber seals around all glass perished
- dead aux gauges in lower center console
- dead lighting in hvac controls
- leaking fuel injectors, rear diff
- seized brake calipers
- ball joints, tie rod ends, suspension bushings, etc. all shot
- hicas leak/failure dash light on
- trunk full of water due to leak in tailights (there is a rubber plug in the spare tire well to pull if it's a fish tank in there)
- crushed jacking points

... also look for signs of a roll cage that has been removed. i remember looking at one with a super mint interior, but couldn't understand why the seatbelts were tucked underneath the rear seat cushion. the mechanic who did the inspection knew right away. the rear cushion wasn't even bolted down, and he pulled up the floor carpet and found old mounting points for a roll cage (importer claimed it was never modified :rolleyes: )

egh.

[toyota86]

pretty much same things to look for when buying any used car. what i looked for when i bought mine.

rust
accidents
original auction sheet. 3.5/B grade or higher only. forget about R or RA.
compression
oil pressure, good if it has r33+ crank and pump
vacuum/boost leaks, common
idle issure, common
oil leaks, somewhat common
turbos going bad, common
recirc valves if still on stock system. other wise bov
vented to air bov makes the car run funny if not done right. if it has that, make sure its working properly
both mafs
noise, harshness, vibration
check if hicas still works if it still has it
check for play in the hicas
check if awd clutch packs still works with center gauge. should be about to hit at least 25-30%, it gets worn and you lose awd eventually
look for diff whine
check clutch, gtr clutches are expensive to replace
make sure it shifts smoothly
check brakes/abs, brake lines
check tires, wheels
check that all electronics work
look for bad suspension bushings, common
front upper control arm, common
make sure all the importation and inspection paperwork is in order. titled and all
make sure it can pass aircare. aircare sucks but its a good indication of how well your car runs.
see if it has cats

these are some of the things on top of my head i could think of. there are more. check out gtrcanada.com for more info

[Phil@rise]

Drive shafts as well as carrier bearing if it is still a two piece.(causes vibration often misdiagnosed as tire/wheel issue)
Injector leaking (sometimes cracked and being a fire hazard)or injectors sticking usually the cause of a never replaced fuel filter.
Rear subframe bushings.
Tension rods and upper lower front rear control arm bushings.
Compression #6 cylinder goes low before others.
Fourth gear wears quicker then others.
ABS leaking. unless an N1 (very rare)then there is no ABS.
Climate controls and display.
Boost leaks from deteriorated soft lines (easy fix with Greddy or HKS lines).

Thats all the GTR specific issues that quickly come to my mind. If you find one worth investigating you can bring it by for a thorough inspection by Akira. He's got over 20 years experience with GTR's and there pitfalls.
Get a good one or it'll quickly become expensive if you want to have any fun.

[tofu1413]

yeah, im expecting some troubles as it is quite an old + complex car.


since you guys at rise auto have this kind of expertise on R32's, i shall bring it down once i find one before purchase.


thanks for the replies!

[Derek128]

check if it was in any accidents


http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/s001-r32.html

after
http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/image/s001-r32/32-119.jpg
http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/image/s001-r32/32-103.jpg
http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/image/s001-r32/32-117.jpg

b4
http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/image/s001-r32/32-007.jpg
http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/image/s001-r32/32-010.jpg
http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/image/s001-r32/32-009.jpg
http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/image/s001-r32/IMG_0660.jpg

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

"road's close pizza boy, find another way home"

fucking street ricers...i mean racers

[Phil@rise]

yeah, im expecting some troubles as it is quite an old + complex car.


since you guys at rise auto have this kind of expertise on R32's, i shall bring it down once i find one before purchase.


thanks for the replies!

Looking forward to it

[hkRicer]

jumpy, malfunction cluster, brake master cylinder, crooked steering wheel, aligment, etc...i'd stay alway from the one with tons of aftermarket parts, modded ecu etc...

[tofu1413]

well, it is perfered that the car would be at stock as possible. in white or gun grey.


a nismo cluster would be a bonus actually.

[AVS_Racing]

main thing is buying a car then realizing its shit and not having $ to fix it then try to sell on CL for $8gs

[GabAlmighty]

Oh, and gtrcanada or make friends with someone who's done it a few times.

check if the e-brake works good because it could have been used in underground drift battles and races... according to that guy that was on global news "if we find a good place to race, we will actually close the road down and do it".
I've never been there and closed the road... But we were at a good strip, parently Richmond one was hectic

[boostfever]

well, it is perfered that the car would be at stock as possible. in white or gun grey.


a nismo cluster would be a bonus actually.
you dont want any cluster other than stock oem. cars with nismo or other "320 km/h" clusters dont show the accurate mileage and most likely have higher mileage.

good luck finding a clean GT-R, there are a few of them out there. i was looking for a GT-R last year, couldnt find a good example at a moderate price and ended up with my GTS-T. still pretty happy.

[tofu1413]

main thing is buying a car then realizing its shit and not having $ to fix it then try to sell on CL for $8gs

funny how you never ever seem to have the balls to say that infront of my face when i see you. all you ever do is hide behind the computer screen and start shit.

go back and suck on your parents tits for money.

nobody asked you.



back on topic.

[shenmecar]

main thing is buying a car then realizing its shit and not having $ to fix it then try to sell on CL for $8gs

Even you said it, main thing is BUYING A CAR. Not modding your mommy's grocery-run-mobile. Grow some balls why dont you.

[spoon.ek9]

oooh, this thread just got a little bit more interesting. :Popcorn

[AVS_Racing]

lol i am giving u advice about buying a jdm car. u have any idea how much it costs to maintain a jdm car? y do u think u see so many going for dirt cheap on cl/ rs and no body even interested in them.

[shenmecar]

lol i am giving u advice about buying a jdm car. u have any idea how much it costs to maintain a jdm car? y do u think u see so many going for dirt cheap on cl/ rs and no body even interested in them.

Whether that was advice or insult to begin with, only you will know. The way I see it, you came in this thread without anything helpful to contribute. Stop trying to act as if you are the most righteous motherfucker out there. You can take that EL you ruined and drive it off the cliff. Tasteful mods my ass.

[tofu1413]

lol i am giving u advice about buying a jdm car. u have any idea how much it costs to maintain a jdm car? y do u think u see so many going for dirt cheap on cl/ rs and no body even interested in them.

unlike you, i have friends. they have imported RHD JDM cars before, just that none of them have imported a R32 GTR before. that is the reason i am asking on RS.

your first post was in the nature to offend me since we both know each other personally. yes i have my up and downs with cars and have went through lots.


however, unlike you, i dont mooch money off parents and mod grocery getters and calling it "tasteful" or "vip" honestly, you dont know jack shit about cars. dont make me dig up the time when you were saying what a real projector retro fit is. you embarass us car enthusiasts.

[AVS_Racing]

right and what gives u the right to go bash my cars?

[tofu1413]

LOL what gives you the right to bash on both me and shenmecar?


cant afford fixing a cracked windshield?


the type R is a lemon?


you have to work on talking behind people's backs

[snow88]

ooooooh fight club?

[GabAlmighty]

AVS sounds like a ricer, tofu's sig hints to some good things.

I need cliffs on past relations.

[snow88]

why not get an s5 tii fc?

[tofu1413]

why not get an s5 tii fc?

too expensive for what they are... rather just get a FD.

[snow88]

i have a greddy single turbo conversion kit for fd if you are up to it

[tofu1413]

if going for a FD.. have to buy one thats blown up. for cheap. then rebuild it ground up.

[EmOne]

lol i am giving u advice about buying a jdm car. u have any idea how much it costs to maintain a jdm car? y do u think u see so many going for dirt cheap on cl/ rs and no body even interested in them.

I daily drive a RHD car and you sir, are an idiot

[snow88]

if going for a FD.. have to buy one thats blown up. for cheap. then rebuild it ground up.

get one with a blown head gasket and blown piston rings XDXDXD

[cho]

get a civic, i heard they're awesome!
way better than a car you can't afford to fix up then sell back on cl for 8gs

[cho]

right and what gives u the right to go bash my cars?

aren't you the guy with a 03 el with LED's?

like really?

[AVS_Racing]

Nope no leds

[tofu1413]

get a civic, i heard they're awesome!
way better than a car you can't afford to fix up then sell back on cl for 8gs


too late now, i dont work for honda any more :cry:

[cho]

Nope no leds

why not?, i heard they look good on els

[tofu1413]

Nope no leds

lies.

[thumper]

check if it was in any accidents


http://www.yoshihisa-style.com/s001-r32.html



all that damage came from hitting that guardrail? :eek:

damn. that looked like a total loss. i'm surprised they went through the expense of fixing it? it does appear to be a good repair however...

[shenmecar]

Nope no leds

What? did you sell those underbody LEDs, map light LEDs, dome light LEDs and whatever miscellaneous LEDs you have for a tank of gas? Bravo.

[AVS_Racing]

shows how much u know about my cars so are you guys gona continue to talk about my cars or ask ur lil questions about ur 32?

[cho]

shows how much u know about my cars so are you guys gona continue to talk about my cars or ask ur lil questions about ur 32?

cars?
or car.

[1exotic]

IBFC

[shenmecar]

shows how much u know about my cars so are you guys gona continue to talk about my cars or ask ur lil questions about ur 32?

:thumbsup:

You're right, I don't know anything about your cars. All I see is the exterior which includes a $10 Home Depot lip, a set of blinding plug and play HID headlights and foglights and some LEDs under the car (saw this at our Halloween drinking party).

Judging by that description, I'm sure no one else wants to know anymore of your car. And you being a pussy, never showing up when tofu and I hang out at your gf's house, only talking behind our backs doesn't help your character either.

I won't be posting in this thread about you anymore, otherwise this will end up in FC. If you have anything else you want to discuss, talk to me in person. Albeit you probably won't.

cars?
or car.

He means his parent's cars.

[GabAlmighty]

Pics of AVS's car pleaseeeeee it sounds soooooooooooooooo nice

[spoon.ek9]

i swear he has posted his car on RS before.... i just can't remember where.

[kwistol]

ooooooh fight club?

+1 :thumbsup:

[snow88]

HEY! I HAVE LEDS IN MY EL....... I'm very rice =)

[.Renn.Sport]

AVS_Racing is correct...

hell, I wouldn't even touch an R34 GTR especially hearing all the horror stories from people that owned one before here in HK. There are so many little things that are needed to be fixed, the car will end up being in the garage instead of the streets.

Not to mention how shitty the chassis is after all these years. You better have the time and money to get the car fixed. otherwise u'll just have an expensive to maintain beater.

GTR replacement parts aren't exactly call cheap or easy to find in Canada.

[tofu1413]

AVS_Racing is correct...

hell, I wouldn't even touch an R34 GTR especially hearing all the horror stories from people that owned one before here in HK. There are so many little things that are needed to be fixed, the car will end up being in the garage instead of the streets.

Not to mention how shitty the chassis is after all these years. You better have the time and money to get the car fixed. otherwise u'll just have an expensive to maintain beater.

GTR replacement parts aren't exactly call cheap or easy to find in Canada.

well, im quite aware about the wear and tear things (as you can tell from my sig, all the cars i've owned were older than I am)

the reason for this thread is where to look for where and tear/ signs of abuse + etc. and what would be catergorized as a "clean" specimen of a R32 GT-R

unlike a number of kids out there, whom are powered by parents, I shed blood and sweat to own/ buy my own car, so I have never owned a new vehicle. since I cant afford a new car anyways, I'd like to try out older more interesting/ entertaining cars, and since the R32 GTRs are depreciating in value lately, im somewhat intrigued by them and would like to try one (assuming I find a tidy, good one for a good deal)

just asking for advice, and so far the thread/ other RS members have been quite helpful, aside from AVS_Racing whom is only using assumptions from others. I know AVS in person, and he hasnt even owned a RHD car (let alone car) so I find him having no right to have a say. He's one of those people that BS so much, they have no face to see other people.

i somewhat agree with you hyde, cars like these are scary to own, and being a GTR they are a million times more complex and problem prone. But hey, I'd like experience owning one. It also goes for older aircooled 911's.. I'd like to own one too someday. Stupid as it sounds, I'd use money + time to just experience the ownership of some "stupid" cars.

[.Renn.Sport]

Air-Cooled 911 are actually a lot easier to maintain then a R32/33/34 GTR

GTRs are not what people think it is. They hold value cuz its a legendary car. But other then that, they are a pain to maintain. Its near impossible to find an R32 that would be pretty "clean" unless u can find a R32 that has already been rebuilt, but those are very expensive.

But then, I doubt those R32 would be reliable when R34s that are close to 10 years newer are already having a shit load of problems.

btw, u can probably get a much better condition R33 for less in another year or so.
this one seems pretty good
http://www.28car.com/sell_dsp.php?h_vw=y&h_id=391074

[tofu1413]

yea I kinda thought about the R33 lately too...

i heard that they are hard to pass VI's on though =x correct me if im wrong.

well the GT-R is a million time more complex than the old trust worthy 911 :thumbsup: since its more complex, it'll break more likely than the 911.

a clean, pre 89' 911, late 930 turbos, 964's or 993 would be nice, but those cars have kept their value quite well, and I cant quite afford it yet. :D someday. ill own my own air cooled 911.

since im young and dumb for now, now is a nice time to own an older GTR and not look out of place in one! :thumbsup:

[.Renn.Sport]

I have no idea on if the R33 could pass VI.... cuz now i'm getting quite interested in that R33 myself LOL

probably cost less then 20g to import it over and I could have it all fixed up in HK before I ship it over. From the pictures, it does look really mint, not sure how it is mechanically, the owner had it dynoed last month and it was still making 380AWHP

[tofu1413]

luckily the R33 GTR's have an improved oil pump design.. which would help prolong the bottom end life of the motor.

i heard from a shop that the lights on R33's would be harder to pass.. something along the lines like that.

[GabAlmighty]

Anybody here imported a r32 from Japan?

edit: and who the deuce is Hyde and the deal behind him? Keep seeing his name everywhere

[PDKGD3]

shows how much u know about my cars so are you guys gona continue to talk about my cars or ask ur lil questions about ur 32?

NICE!!!

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v308/115/45/509014041/n509014041_1093152_6663.jpg

[hk20000]

LOL hahaha

I drive an RHD on a daily basis and my car isn't exactly "simple" either. 6 cylinders 2 turbos a bejeebus of vacuum lines and coolant lines make maintenance a very........."interesting" experience.

but with an R32 it's a different story, it's so commonly imported that I would consider it a "mainstream" car. In fact, you can get all the parts from Nissan USA now with the part numbers it's a MUCH EASIER prospect than something that even the Japanese didn't know they made one of those.

In any case seeing your car ownership portfolio I would think just common sense at your level will bring you a long way. R32s have freak problems because it's such a complex car but hey they don't rear their ugly heads until they happen so what's the point to speculate right?

Just test drive it, if it feels alright it's alright, it'll never be 100% and with such a name tag it'll never be "good deal".

Good luck with the hunt.

[Shun Izaki]

unlike you, i have friends. they have imported RHD JDM cars before, just that none of them have imported a R32 GTR before. that is the reason i am asking on RS.

your first post was in the nature to offend me since we both know each other personally. yes i have my up and downs with cars and have went through lots.


however, unlike you, i dont mooch money off parents and mod grocery getters and calling it "tasteful" or "vip" honestly, you dont know jack shit about cars. dont make me dig up the time when you were saying what a real projector retro fit is. you embarass us car enthusiasts.

too expensive for what they are... rather just get a FD.

What the shit are you talking about... I've brought 3 BNR32's into vancouver...

[Shun Izaki]

Anybody here imported a r32 from Japan?

edit: and who the deuce is Hyde and the deal behind him? Keep seeing his name everywhere

heh noob. Go back and read threads from 2000 XD

:thumbsup:

You're right, I don't know anything about your cars. All I see is the exterior which includes a $10 Home Depot lip, a set of blinding plug and play HID headlights and foglights and some LEDs under the car (saw this at our Halloween drinking party).

Judging by that description, I'm sure no one else wants to know anymore of your car. And you being a pussy, never showing up when tofu and I hang out at your gf's house, only talking behind our backs doesn't help your character either.

I won't be posting in this thread about you anymore, otherwise this will end up in FC. If you have anything else you want to discuss, talk to me in person. Albeit you probably won't.



He means his parent's cars.

Can i talk about you behind your back? I'll show up...

[shenmecar]

Can i talk about you behind your back? I'll show up...

If you can find something to talk behind my back about, be my guest. Then we can go out for Kam Do Mega Meals and you can tell me all about it. =)

(AVS can learn a thing or two from you)

[cho]

If you can find something to talk behind my back about, be my guest. Then we can go out for Kam Do Mega Meals and you can tell me all about it. =)

(AVS can learn a thing or two from you)

fuck those mega meals tofus just gonna take my noodles again and still make me pay for them :mad:

[tofu1413]

What the shit are you talking about... I've brought 3 BNR32's into vancouver...

you never told me. .................


and that FD thing, he was asking why not a FC..?