[tonyvu]

“The ‘Lifesaver bottles’ were tested using micro organisms in far greater numbers than could ever be found in natural water sources. This is the worse-case scenario approach recommended by the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) and their guidelines have been used to draw up our own protocols for testing of all Microbiological Water Purifiers. As well as using modified tap water for our tests we use samples taken from a pond or stream as our challenge test water to simulate ‘real-life’ situations as per EPA guidelines.”

Under the conditions of testing in our laboratory as shown in this report, our results show that the ‘Lifesaver Bottle’ removed all bacteria and viruses from a contaminated water source in excess of legal requirements and as such, complies with all British, US and European Drinking Water Regulations for Microbiological Reduction.
London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.

http://www.lifesaversystems.com/about01.html

YouTube- Life Saver Bottle, Michael Pritchard 2009G TED

[trip]

whoa where the fuck do i get one of those?
i have bottles of water put away in case of emergency

[murd0c]

here is the US site http://www.lifesaverusa.com/ you can get one from. This is honestly one of the better ideas I have seen. I'm honestly going to pick one up something will happen one day and this is the best idea I think I have seen.

[asdfpic]

this thing is intense

[CP.AR]

great invention, awesome. 600L in a little 2L (i think) bottom like that... 300 times! wow

EDIT: 6000L, that's like freaking 3000 times!!! (thanks Graeme S)

and then that Jerry can has a capacity of
YouTube- Its Over 9000!!! [Original Video and Audio]

Liters.

[Graeme S]

Not six hundred, man, six THOUSAND. Wish my granddad could've had one of these; his liver took a beating once when he was hiking and got beaver fever (infection due to animal urine in his drinking water--he thought it was a clean stream).
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[Gnomes]

It's kinda expensive but a real lifesaver during disasters. I wonder how long is the shelf life of this bottle for the occasional hiker. The water bottle companies are not thrilled about this

[SMDBICH]

Not six hundred, man, six THOUSAND. Wish my granddad could've had one of these; his liver took a beating once when he was hiking and got beaver fever (infection due to animal urine in his drinking water--he thought it was a clean stream).
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poor him, anyways this invention is great. wait till they get these in china where the water is undrinkable

[Vansterdam]

whoa dope

rs group buy

[keitaro]

great for emergencies and great to take backpacking into the bush.

[AzNightmare]

So what's the coles note for this?

Put crap into it, pump the thing a few times, get purified clean water?

[EmOne]

put urine in there and see if this thing will sterilize that?

hahaha

nevertheless, great invention

[raygunpk]

So what's the coles note for this?

Put crap into it, pump the thing a few times, get purified clean water?

pretty much!

[hotong]

awesome!

[FI-Z33]

RS sponsor? :D:D

[jtanner_]

That's really amazing... Lol @ rs group buy
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[Gnomes]

IF there was a group buy, count me in!

[tool001]

they should promote this like that $100 laptop... buy 2 and one gets donated..

[fishing666]

so it's a super filter...filters out things at 25nm and bigger
there's a lot that u can't filter out though and can be dangerous to human health
like alcohol..ethers....acids..amides..hydrocarbons..an ything at the molecular level

it just seems like a super particulate filter which is good for short term water use but who knows what harm prolonged use can do

[InvisibleSoul]

Prices start at $149.99.

How the hell are people in Haiti going to afford these? :p

[skyxx]

put urine in there and see if this thing will sterilize that?

hahaha

nevertheless, great invention

You can drink your urine. It's perfectly healthy. ;)

[umpadupa]

That's really amazing... Lol @ rs group buy
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+1
im in

[Manic!]

so it's a super filter...filters out things at 25nm and bigger
there's a lot that u can't filter out though and can be dangerous to human health
like alcohol..ethers....acids..amides..hydrocarbons..an ything at the molecular level

it just seems like a super particulate filter which is good for short term water use but who knows what harm prolonged use can do

it's 15nm

[hk20000]

so if you have a flood you can't use this anyway

why? well think of the engine oil and gasoline that's going to mix into the water from flooded cars.

this idea doesn't work for emergencies. It does work for places suffering from unclean underground water which a filter is all it needs.

[AVS_Racing]

mmmm TED speakers are always so interesting. but yea pretty damn good invention, convenient as fuck too if u ever do any traveling to remote places

[TheKingdom2000]

put urine in there and see if this thing will sterilize that?

hahaha

nevertheless, great invention

umm yeah. that's pretty much it.. with 25nm pores... nothing but clean drinking good ol water.

[!e.lo_]

yo that's awesome!
brilliant invention.
if there's an RS group buy, im in for two!

[bartone]

Prices start at $149.99.

How the hell are people in Haiti going to afford these? :p

i think its not for them to afford it, but for the countries who send aid to these third world countries to "donate" it to them instead of donating bottled water.

[Preemo]

so if you have a flood you can't use this anyway

why? well think of the engine oil and gasoline that's going to mix into the water from flooded cars.

this idea doesn't work for emergencies. It does work for places suffering from unclean underground water which a filter is all it needs.

Are you serious? Did you just come in here and read the title and post your marvelous thoughts?

It filters things out at the 15nm level. This thing was designed for emergencies. Did you think it was made for your hiking leisure? It's designed to save lives!

[Presto]

The big feature of this is the 15nm filter, while other filters like MSR or Katadyn have 20nm filters. What kind of waterborne viruses would I have to worry about that can make it past 20nm?

[97ITR]

The big feature of this is the 15nm filter, while other filters like MSR or Katadyn have 20nm filters. What kind of waterborne viruses would I have to worry about that can make it past 20nm?

Super aids... do you want to get super aids?

[EmOne]

Super aids... do you want to get super aids?

hyper aids are 5nm

[Vansterdam]

^ are u pho real

[CP.AR]

^ are u pho real

PHO? I LOVE PHO

[Porschedog]

umm yeah. that's pretty much it.. with 25nm pores... nothing but clean drinking good ol water.

Great invention
kinda nasty if u think about drinking water that was mixed wit ur urine b4 tho loool

[97ITR]

Great invention
kinda nasty if u think about drinking water that was mixed wit ur urine b4 tho loool

Yes, but it's also no different then the natural water cycle which provides fresh water now.

[StylinRed]

TED always has the best lectures

[murd0c]

With everything that is going on in Japan right now I thought it would be a good idea to bump this thread. When I have the cash I'm going in invest in one of these no questions asked. Yes its $200 but I personally think it's a must have for someones earthquake kit.

[Psykopathik]

urine is sterile.

[Manic!]

One problem I see with this bottle in a city is were are you going to get the water from?

[nsmb]

urine is sterile.
http://raytownvineyardchurch.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bear-grylls-bear-grylls-543979_468_520.jpg?w=351&h=390

[Vansterdam]

rs group buy? wonder if we can get a deal cause ill be down

[murd0c]

rs group buy? wonder if we can get a deal cause ill be down

on the website it says they do group buys for 100 or more lol

[J____]

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it only filters bacteria and virus, the 15nm isnt going to filter out molecules like sodium, uria, or chemicals. It's not going to turn sea water into drinking water no?

[Vansterdam]

on the website it says they do group buys for 100 or more lol

any place i can get this locally?

[Brianrietta]

It looks like a pretty solid product and idea. Particularly in third-world countries and areas with poor water quality distributing Life Save Bottles would be hugely successful in improving overall quality of life. Honestly as I see it though for us in North America there are cheaper and more practical items that would be as useful in case of an emergency here.

http://answers.mec.ca/answers/9421-en_ca/326445/photo.jpg

The big feature of this is the 15nm filter, while other filters like MSR or Katadyn have 20nm filters. What kind of waterborne viruses would I have to worry about that can make it past 20nm?

The MSR and Katadyn filters are more than sufficient for any freshwater source in North America. The primary concern in most of Canada is filtering Giardia out of the water and as it's a protozoan parasite anything at .2mi will catch it. I splurged a while ago on a Katadyn pocket filter and I couldn't be happier. Built exceptionally sturdy (and will filter 50,000 litres of water) but the cheaper MSR filters are perfectly good too.

Katadyn Pocket Water Filter (http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444177 7453&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302888390) $300.00

Katadyn Base Camp Filter (http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444261 7376&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302696689) $68.00

MSR MiniWorks EX Water Filter (http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444237 2421&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302696689) $78.00

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it only filters bacteria and virus, the 15nm isnt going to filter out molecules like sodium, uria, or chemicals. It's not going to turn sea water into drinking water no?

It won't filter metals or salt out of the water, no. You'd still want to find a non-salt water source to filter. If you know you're going to be staying in a urban area during an emergency situation, catching rainfall might be the easiest by leaving out buckets and whatnot that you could then filter and drink. There are portable desalinization devices but they're prohibitively expensive:

Katadyn Survivor 06 Water Desalinator (http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=253437430 2696751&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442594439&bmLocale=en) $945.00

[CanadaGoose]

I want one or two of these for my go-bags

btw good write up Eugene, thanks!

[rslater]

I still perfered a uv light steri pen.
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[spoon.ek9]

on the website it says they do group buys for 100 or more lol

if we can seriously get that 100 orders, i would be down for at least 2 of these!

[GabAlmighty]

What's wrong with... Boiling water?

[TOS'd]

What's wrong with... Boiling water?

You cant exactly just put on a pot/kettle of water and let it boil in say, after a natural disaster.

[GabAlmighty]

You cant exactly just put on a pot/kettle of water and let it boil in say, after a natural disaster.

Why?

[Vansterdam]

I still perfered a uv light steri pen.
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more info on this and where can i get locally?

[rocksforsale]

more info on this and where can i get locally?

http://www.steripen.com/

"Extensive testing has proven SteriPEN to be safe and effective, eliminating over 99.9% of bacteria, viruses and protozoa that cause water-borne illness. SteriPEN has earned the Water Quality Association’s Gold Seal, certifying its effectiveness."

http://www.steripen.com/classic-filter

^ locates closest retailers near u

[Brianrietta]

Why?

Electric stove/natural gas would likely be non-operative after a Japan-style earthquake or other major disaster, and unless you're an avid backcountry trekker or camper like me, odds are good that you wouldn't have a portable stove and more importantly fuel for one immediately available.

more info on this and where can i get locally?

SteriPens basically use ultraviolet light to render bacteria and viruses inert. They're awesomely effective in say a clear mountain stream, but become less effective the dirtier the water that you're trying to cleanse. I've been out of Vancouver for long enough that I don't know many places that would sell them but I do know that MEC carries several versions of SteriPens (main store on Broadway and another somewhere in North Van).

SteriPEN SteriPen and Water Bottle Pre-Filter (http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444262 4776&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302696689) $68.00

SteriPEN Journey (http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444262 9526&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302696751) $96.00

SteriPEN Adventurer Opti (http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444263 4647&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302696751) $86.00

SteriPEN

Many of us like this miniature light saber. It uses ultraviolet light to deactivate the unseen cooties (viruses included) that could be lurking in water. Short-wave UV light (specifically, UVC, which transmits "germicidal" attributes) zaps, or "disrupts," their DNA, rendering them unable to reproduce and thus cause illness. This is what my coworker's daughter took on her trip, and she returned healthy and well-pleased with its performance. The SteriPEN is typically my first-choice water-treatment item for backpacking trips, but every person has different preferences. It may or may not be the right item for you.

Pros:

* All SteriPEN models are small, simple to use and lightweight.
* No wait time is needed once water has been exposed to UV light.
* UV light imparts no taste to the water.
* The wand can be used to treat water (without ice) in individual drinking glasses, such as in hotel rooms.
* UV light is very effective against Cryptosporidium, the most treatment-resistant pest among protozoa and bacteria.

Cons:

* The quartz lamp could break.
* Batteries can run out. (The manufacturer recommends using lithium batteries.)
* Not effective in very dirty or gritty water unless it is prefiltered or clarified. Light must interact with organisms in order to be effective.

Tips:

* If water has a high particulate content, use the SteriPEN's prefilter — a screw-on cap for water bottles equipped with a 4-micron screen.
* The use of the prefilter is advised in any outdoor situation to keep water as particulate-free as possible.
* For speed and simplicity, bring a water bottle with threads that are compatible with the prefilter.
* If the water clarity is poor, give it a second or even a third dosage of UV light.

[TOS'd]

Electric stove/natural gas would likely be non-operative after a Japan-style earthquake or other major disaster, and unless you're an avid backcountry trekker or camper like me, odds are good that you wouldn't have a portable stove and more importantly fuel for one immediately available.

He is just trolling, best to leave him be.

[Brianrietta]

He is just trolling, best to leave him be.

Fair enough.

Anyways for people more interested in reading up about water treatment options here are a few links with a ton of information:

http://www.rei.com/articles/water+risks.html (http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/water+risks.html)

http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/water+treatment+backcountry.html (http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/water+treatment+backcountry.html)

http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/water+treatment+international.html (http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/water+treatment+international.html)

[GabAlmighty]

Electric stove/natural gas would likely be non-operative after a Japan-style earthquake or other major disaster, and unless you're an avid backcountry trekker or camper like me, odds are good that you wouldn't have a portable stove and more importantly fuel for one immediately available.

Honestly, a portable stove was the last thing on my mind. It's not that hard to get a fire going, atleast I didn't think it was?

He is just trolling, best to leave him be.

Only moderately this time.