[Armind]

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 1 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 2 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 3 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 4 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 5 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 6 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 7 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc

[Vansterdam]

bet if the homeless from another city sees this they be like DAM!! im heading to van!

[Armind]

Like wtf? each homeless costs the city $75k a YEAR?

[Jackygor]

Like wtf? each homeless costs the city $75k a YEAR?

THATS MORE THEN WHAT THE AVERAGE VANCOUVERITE MAKES WTFFFFFFF

[Armind]

^ My exact thoughts..

[TRDood]

so is this a ubc school project created by this guy?

i can see the creative work that he has done, but i don't see the point. is he trying to say good things or bad things about homelessness?

i only skipped through the first video though.

[Armind]

He did drugs too. =\

[TypeRNammer]

He did drugs too. =\

I was pretty much :eek: when he actually did them

[Toeknee]

I hope the dude didn't get any infections

[aliuu]

holy shit.

[DanHibiki]

good eye opener.

[Eatman]

holy shit!!
wow, just wow........
i can't believe he went as far as to smoke crack and shoot heroin...i just hope that guy doesn't get some urge to try it out again in the future.

[MG1]

Not all people in the DTES are young and homeless, drug addicts, or jobless. Not everone gets or wants the assistance. Anyway.................... I'm watching the rest of the guy's video right now. Good so far. First one is like a fun one, then it gets down to business.....

[ajei]

so if i can avoid addiction...living homeless is cool? free sauna and laundry service?

[MG1]

YouTube- Streets Of Plenty - 1 of 7 - Vancouver Homeless Doc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6-1oo-b3Ds)

Nice find, Armind. Can you put up links to the rest in your original post?

Some people may not realize that what's posted is the first in a series of seven (even though it's right there in the title).

The rest is way more interesting.

[Kim Jong Un]

really interesting series
mad props to that guy, hopefully he doesn't get infections or any serious diseases... or addiction

[XxFcukxX]

shit.. he fucken smoked crack and injected heroin...

[Armind]

Nice find, Armind. Can you put up links to the rest in your original post?

Some people may not realize that what's posted is the first in a series of seven (even though it's right there in the title).

The rest is way more interesting.


Sure thing, no problem :thumbsup:

[hotong]

watching this right now

[ryugeeh]

just finished watching.. can't believe he tried heroin

[Graeme S]

How do people not know the statistics for homelessness? People on the news talk about this shit all the time!

$75k/yr for homelessness gets cut significantly when there is sustainable long-term housing, as a great deal of the cost goes towards public homeless shelters.

The creation of social/below-market/cheapass housing SIGNIFICANTLY reduces the cost and effects of being low/non-income. This is why people keep pushing for social housing!

[johny]

How do people not know the statistics for homelessness? People on the news talk about this shit all the time!

$75k/yr for homelessness gets cut significantly when there is sustainable long-term housing, as a great deal of the cost goes towards public homeless shelters.

The creation of social/below-market/cheapass housing SIGNIFICANTLY reduces the cost and effects of being low/non-income. This is why people keep pushing for social housing!


there is lots of cheap housing all across canada... the only reason these people are here is because of the warmer weather and more free stuff. if we stoped giving out free stuff the people would leave. and then it woudln't cost us anything.

[Jackygor]

^^^

I thanked you for your awesome avatar

[Graeme S]

there is lots of cheap housing all across canada... the only reason these people are here is because of the warmer weather and more free stuff. if we stoped giving out free stuff the people would leave. and then it woudln't cost us anything.
So that's the reason that there's more than 4,000 homeless people in Montreal too, eh? Lots of warm weather and free stuff...


Let's not forget...no matter what we do some people will be poor and lazy. There is no way to MAKE everyone become productive and contribute shit. You can't force that. But what you can do is minimize the vampiric drain on everyone.

[orange7]

Conclusion:

If go come here (DTES) and get addicted, you stay here.

[MG1]

I have a friend who's mom is a bag lady. She's past being embarrassed by it. The mom chose to be a bag lady and likes the lifestyle.

I choose to be a millionaire, but for some fucking reason, it ain't happening. I must be fucking lazy or something. Oh, I know........... maybe I should try being dishonest. hee hee hee.......

[mikemhg]

Amazing Doc, thanks for that.

I used to always say, well they have shelters, why don't they sleep in them.

Since I've never seen inside a shelter before, now I see why.

Jesus, and he was down there when it was dry, imagine those shelters during the months of rain we have here, christ a place full of viruses and bacteria. Imagine having no where clean to go when you're suffering from the Flu, diarhea...

[fliptuner]

Excellent documentary.

I haven't really decided if I think the guy is dedicated or naive as far as doing heroin.

[echoboy]

Ok... What's the solution now?

[XxFcukxX]

I don't think this was a documentary to find a solution for this but rather to show you what is happening/open your eyes type of thing.

[sunny_j]

good documentary
$75k/yr:eek:

[CorneringArtist]

Doc was great for the actual realization to why the Olympic protesters are pushing for social housing. Too bad they have to be violent pricks and try to act as "knights in shining armor" for the homeless. If people saw this documentary en masse, I get the feeling that opinions on the homeless issue in Vancouver would change significantly. However, with the shit protesters are pulling now, they're just halting any possible progress that could potentially happen.

[Graeme S]

Ok... What's the solution now?
There's no easy one. And the biggest problem is that a payoff after government spending won't be seen for 5+ years, meaning ANOTHER administration is gonna take credit for what one started.

You can't lower spending until you've already spent other money elsewhere. So you'll still be spending that $75k/yr per person while also spending hundreds of millions on social housing, and it won't pay off for ages. This is one of many reasons why there's no solution yet.

[jaguar604]

All fun and games until he used the hard drugs, surprised he didn't complete the unholy trinity with meth.

[cressydrift]

All fun and games until he used the hard drugs, surprised he didn't complete the unholy trinity with meth.

Meth is for Surrey! Crack and Heroin are DTES's. He should do a doc on the diff between Vancouver crack heads vs Surrey meth addicts.

[VooDood]

just finished it. i have to say, during the part on hard drugs i seriously felt sick to my stomach, i had to pause a few time just because i couldnt stomach it.
Thank you very much Armind. Real eye opener.

[DuhDang]

Awesome Doc

[TypeRNammer]

just finished it. i have to say, during the part on hard drugs i seriously felt sick to my stomach, i had to pause a few time just because i couldnt stomach it.
Thank you very much Armind. Real eye opener.

QFT

I had to pause for a bit then continued on with the video

[tonyvu]

wow, puts things into perspective... 75k / year... O_o

[SkinnyPupp]

This is a fantastic documentary, fully available on Youtube. Here's the first video, for the rest you should view from their website (http://www.streetsofplenty.com/pages/movie.html).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6-1oo-b3Ds

Our very own good friend Marco 911 makes an appearance starting at 1:35 of Part 2 :thumbsup:

Pretty great movie though, he ends up doing crack and heroin at the end. You won't believe the heroin scene...

[Presto]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/streets-plenty-vancouver-t605961.html

[SkinnyPupp]

Odd that it didn't come up in a search.

[rsx]

A system they can exploit and we're surprised that they're doing it? Geez. The government needs to tighten up.

Lots of homeless come to Vancouver because the weather is way more mild. They need to tag the homeless with a barcode and enforce provincial borders that way Vancouver doesn't get a shitload from back east or something.

[Death2Theft]

Uh where do you think most of our homeless comes from? Out east...

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ we should ship the homless to a boot camp and make the work! No work no drugs!

[TouringTeg]

Wow. Thought provoking. Thanks for sharing.

[BrRsn]

^^ we should ship the homless to a boot camp and make the work! No work no drugs!

didn't they used to have work camps for vagrants way back when?


good documentary though, the hardcore drug scenes were really unexpected. Either this guy really cares or he's trying to make it big quick by doing what no other documentary maker has done before

[Greenstoner]

great watch

[Phat_R]

Wow -- eye opening for sure. Lots of misconceptions dispelled.

I was shocked to see how easy it is to get on welfare. I'm depressed too. can i have a check please?

[hotjoint]

That was some powerful stuff. I never felt bad for a homeless person because they can still get welfare, what they choose to do with their money is up to them but obviously they're not using it to get better. I was very surprised how easy it was to get welfare as well. I know this doesnt mean that all the DTES residents are hopeless but for every person who is trying to get out of the life if any, there's 9 others that don't give a shit and will continue to abuse the system because they can.

[b0unce. [?]]

Good find, really well made documentary. Yeah I was surprised he had the balls to go shoot up.
I knew we had that place "InSight" but damn, thats crazy.

[stewie]

what to do with the homeless?

south park style!!!!

"california
is nice to the homeless!
Californ-ya-ya
Super cool to the homeless

In the city
City of Santa Monica
Lots of rich people giving change to the homeless"

and just like that...all the homeless go to california

[adambomb]

==

[lgman]

what to do with the homeless?

south park style!!!!

"california
is nice to the homeless!
Californ-ya-ya
Super cool to the homeless

In the city
City of Santa Monica
Lots of rich people giving change to the homeless"

and just like that...all the homeless go to california
http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/1107/1107_jump_homeless_2.jpg

[antonito]

A system they can exploit and we're surprised that they're doing it? Geez. The government needs to tighten up.

Lots of homeless come to Vancouver because the weather is way more mild. They need to tag the homeless with a barcode and enforce provincial borders that way Vancouver doesn't get a shitload from back east or something.

More than a few of them get one way bus tickets from places like Alberta.

[mqr03]

surprised someone like him would do this unless he got paid for it.
the guy could be a model he definitely has the looks to be one.

[threezero]

Thanks for the find. Excellent documentary. This is much more eye opening that the shitload of other documentary that just takes on a third person view.

[snowball]

This was quite insightful but what about organized crime and the drug dealers that push people to become addicted to drugs and feed off addicts to make money? This documentary does talk about mitigation and the cost to the city and addicts themselves but the root of the problems is barely discussed.

[Not really racist!]

excellent documentary

maybe the guy went overboard by acutally trying heroin and crack

[chouchou]

goddamn. i have little words after watching that
amazing, definite eye opener. the dude has balls, that's for sure.

[BaoXu]

POWERFUL DOCUMENTARY. Holy shit.

watching it makes me feel so thankful for everything I have.

[Valour]

I don't think he needed to shoot up etc. He wanted to. It was definitely an insightful documentary, but I don't like the manner in which he did it. He should be reporting the problems, not being involved in it himself. That for me seemed more of a narcisistic thing, like trying to earn some type of cred points or something.

Certainly drugs and mental illness are a HUGE problem. I mean, that one crackhead earned $400 a day just to shoot up.

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't think he needed to shoot up etc. He wanted to. It was definitely an insightful documentary, but I don't like the manner in which he did it. He should be reporting the problems, not being involved in it himself. That for me seemed more of a narcisistic thing, like trying to earn some type of cred points or something.

Certainly drugs and mental illness are a HUGE problem. I mean, that one crackhead earned $400 a day just to shoot up.
You fail at watching this

[Valour]

You fail at watching this

care to elaborate instead of just trolling? It's really easy to troll u know.

Here's one:

Your mother failed at shitting so you came out instead.

[ziggyx]

I don't think he needed to shoot up etc. He wanted to. It was definitely an insightful documentary, but I don't like the manner in which he did it. He should be reporting the problems, not being involved in it himself. That for me seemed more of a narcisistic thing, like trying to earn some type of cred points or something.

Certainly drugs and mental illness are a HUGE problem. I mean, that one crackhead earned $400 a day just to shoot up.


That's like saying the dude from super size me shouldn't have committed to eating all those mcdonald meals and rather just report on the problem of obesity and such..is it not? It would not be as entertaining to watch and you don't really understand until you try things first hand for yourself. But I know what you are trying to say. He is just doing a documentary on homeless people, not drugs. However drugs do come hand in hand with homeless people (well sometimes??).

[hk20000]

I don't think he needed to shoot up etc. He wanted to. It was definitely an insightful documentary, but I don't like the manner in which he did it. He should be reporting the problems, not being involved in it himself. That for me seemed more of a narcisistic thing, like trying to earn some type of cred points or something.

Certainly drugs and mental illness are a HUGE problem. I mean, that one crackhead earned $400 a day just to shoot up.

His idea is to show the streets to you in a first person fashion and first hand experience. Even though he didn't HAVE to do the heroin (in fact a long portion was spent discussing this), he explored the addiction first hand to show you how the drug just brittles the mind and, on top of risking of being addicted, doing this drug diminishes all hopes for the homeless to swim back upstream to live a more socially accepted lifestyle.

The way the whole documentary broke away from the heroin injection is probably planned because it is the climax and high point to the documentary where he does the "unthinkable" and it broke the film itself (breaking the 4th wall, in a sense)

Very well done documentary indeed.

[achiam]

I actually have a friend from Elementary school who is now a homeless schizo junkie down there. I feel horrible that he ended up like that, but nobody forced him to try crack, which triggered the psychosis/schizo, leading to more substance abuse.
They should be rounded up and sent to forced labor camps in the Yukon for re-education along with the rest of societal scum.

[Valour]

I didn't say the documentary sucked. It certainly was insightful. However, my opinion was that doing the drugs was not necessary. I was subscribing to a more journalistic approach of observation rather than his activist method which was irresponsible and dangerous.

[b0unce. [?]]

I didn't say the documentary sucked. It certainly was insightful. However, my opinion was that doing the drugs was not necessary. I was subscribing to a more journalistic approach of observation rather than his activist method which was irresponsible and dangerous.

you cant say you wouldn't get addicted to crack, meth or heroine without trying it.
its like you saying you hate certain foods without trying it.