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asian_XL
02-21-2010, 04:17 AM
Cool or stupid? would you buy one?

it isn't that expensive, around $380 for an Acer 24" 1920x1080. Not sure how useful it's going to be, but I know my arms will become sore after awhile

YouTube- Acer T230H 23" Widescreen Touch Screen Monitor

TekDragon
02-21-2010, 08:05 AM
Don't know how successful it will be. Most people are still stuck in the old tradition of "legacy" input devices.

Hondaracer
02-21-2010, 12:59 PM
$380 for a 24" is nothing

my 24" Ultrasharp was like 540 a year ago

TOPEC
02-21-2010, 01:09 PM
i wouldnt mind having one and using one, but it definitely wont be standing up like that, more like lying flat on the table with a bit of a tilt.

Razor Ramon HG
02-21-2010, 01:26 PM
It wouldn't be very practical for most people. That and I'd prefer something more solid looking? From looking at the video I'd be afraid of tipping it over.

Manic!
02-21-2010, 04:29 PM
Since Windows 7 is multi touch capable you will see a lot more touch screens coming out.

Soundy
02-21-2010, 04:46 PM
Touchscreens are a conspiracy perpetrated by the makers of Windex!

Seriously... how many times will most people need to wipe down their touchscreen monitors before the novelty wears off?

dual
02-21-2010, 04:51 PM
Useless. Your arm is going to be tired 10 mins after using it.

impactX
02-21-2010, 11:22 PM
Why don't people play FPS on it? Boom headshot.

InvisibleSoul
02-22-2010, 12:04 AM
You know, you can still attach a regular mouse and keyboard to the system... and only use the touchscreen when you want to.

asian_XL
02-22-2010, 05:36 AM
I hate LCD screens nowaday are all 1920x1080...where are the 1920x1600 screens?

Soundy
02-22-2010, 08:40 AM
You know, you can still attach a regular mouse and keyboard to the system... and only use the touchscreen when you want to.

Yeah, the point is kinda, why spend all that extra money for something that's just going to be a novelty for a little while?

underscore
02-22-2010, 08:43 AM
For some people this would be sweet, my gf does a lot of drawing on her external tablet so this would be really cool for her. For regular use though I could see this getting a little meh after a while, I much prefer a regular mouse to dragging stuff around using the touchpad on my laptop.

Hondaracer
02-22-2010, 09:21 AM
I doubt drawing would be that great on an upright screen

has anyone used the photowall add-on with chrome? Somthing like that would be great with a touch screen
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underscore
02-22-2010, 09:41 AM
^ you would obviously want to have it laying down, at a big of an angle for any real use. standing upright would be silly. But then your neck might get sore from looking down so much.

Mugen EvOlutioN
02-22-2010, 09:47 AM
so much movement to complete a simple task, i will pass

Soundy
02-22-2010, 10:03 AM
It's great for things like public kiosks and displays where a mouse and keyboard aren't feasible... beyond that, though... it's just a gimmick.

twitchyzero
02-22-2010, 10:22 AM
if you're gonna have a 24" within half arms length of reach i'd be more worried about eyestrain than arm strain.

!LittleDragon
02-22-2010, 01:45 PM
In all these years, the only useful application for a touch screen I found aside from public kiosks is when I built my carputer.

InvisibleSoul
02-22-2010, 11:29 PM
Yeah, the point is kinda, why spend all that extra money for something that's just going to be a novelty for a little while?

Because to some people, money is not an issue. I know of someone that got one of those HP 24" touch screen systems.

Senna4ever
02-23-2010, 01:49 AM
For some people this would be sweet, my gf does a lot of drawing on her external tablet so this would be really cool for her. For regular use though I could see this getting a little meh after a while, I much prefer a regular mouse to dragging stuff around using the touchpad on my laptop.
100% guaranteed that using a dedicated tablet like a Wacom Cintiq is better than this.

asian_XL
02-23-2010, 05:58 AM
^ werd.

the accurancy and response time are still no match to professional tablet pads. Think about drawing something on a WM phone, it's very bad

underscore
02-23-2010, 06:44 AM
but bang for buck? I guess this thing really is only good for presenters then.

Presto
02-23-2010, 08:03 AM
$380 for a 24" is nothing

my 24" Ultrasharp was like 540 a year ago

True that. I paid a bit less than $350 for my 7" touchscreen.

I think a touchscreen could be quite handy. It wouldn't replace my mouse, but it can help supplement it, and make various functions more efficient.

Mugen EvOlutioN
02-23-2010, 01:48 PM
i paid $550 for my 24" a year ago

Senna4ever
02-23-2010, 02:00 PM
but bang for buck? I guess this thing really is only good for presenters then.

No. It's not pressure sensitive, and how sensitive is the screen? You can't use a brush tip or pencil tip on it, and I'm willing to bet that you'll damage the screen if you try and use a stylus. Is it sensitive down to individual pixel width like the higher end Wacom tablets (Intuos & Cintiq) are? I don't think so. You get what you pay for.

underscore
02-23-2010, 02:07 PM
You're willing to bet? You don't think so? Dude you don't even know for sure. Yes it is a cheaper screen, so in all likelyhood all this thing is good for is a gimmick and presenters. But if it is sensitive down to the pixel then this'll be a pretty nifty screen for artists on a budget, no? I can barely draw a stickman so idk for sure (but the gf is gonna let me fiddle around with her old external tablet :lol)

Senna4ever
02-23-2010, 04:22 PM
You're willing to bet? You don't think so? Dude you don't even know for sure. Yes it is a cheaper screen, so in all likelyhood all this thing is good for is a gimmick and presenters. But if it is sensitive down to the pixel then this'll be a pretty nifty screen for artists on a budget, no? I can barely draw a stickman so idk for sure (but the gf is gonna let me fiddle around with her old external tablet :lol)
I wrote that because I don't know what technology is used for the touch screen. If it's magnet based like the Wacom tablets, then no, not at that price point. If the Acer is using the old school film technology where there is a thin plastic film suspended over the glass, then the screen will not be accurate enough to do artwork, unless you really zoom in and using a stylus will damage the film for sure.

Ulic Qel-Droma
02-24-2010, 04:48 PM
I hate LCD screens nowaday are all 1920x1080...where are the 1920x1600 screens?

you mean 1920X1200?

you still want it wide dude.

i prefer 1200 over the 1080 for sure.

Soundy
02-24-2010, 08:00 PM
I dunno, 1920x1600 would be nice - more screen that way. Widescreen content can just play letterboxed.

underscore
02-24-2010, 08:46 PM
I got a 24" 1920x1080 for gaming, which works great. But movies run at something else, so I still get boxed. idk what the uber-wide format is but IT MAKES BABY JESUS CRY. imo 16:9 is a nice medium of wide vs standard.

on a side note, isn't HD porn 1080p now?

Soundy
02-24-2010, 09:46 PM
Movies are generally 1.85:1.
16:9 is equivalent to 1.78:1.

Manic!
02-24-2010, 11:00 PM
Right now there's no killer app for the average user but it would be great for music production. You could control various sliders and effects a lot faster on a touch screen than a mouse.

Soundy
02-25-2010, 12:12 AM
^True that - if it does multitouch, it would be great for virual/software mixers or synth controllers.

ecsw
02-25-2010, 11:56 AM
Althought not exactly the same, I bought a Gateway ZX6800 All-in-One with Windows 7 Multitouch 23" screen back in October/November last year for my kids. It was $999 with QX8300/4GB DDR3/1TB SATA. But Acer/Gateway is the same company now. :p

The multi-touch for Windows 7 is like Senna4eve mentioned, not presure sensitive. There are optical sensor around the screen and it detects the cooridinate of the sensor being block to achive the touch feedback. However, there is an extra layer of hard plastic covering up the to protect the surface. Therefore, stylus is ok. It actually detects the touch without physcially touch the screen. That's also why is much cheaper to produce than tranditional touch film. No calibration is needed either becuase there's no overlaying film. It's always accurate.

It's fun to play with the Windows 7 touch pack, but it's not good enough for FPS. I tried L4D on it. But it could be because the system has slow graphic (X4500HD). There's a little delay on the touch response in the game and I'd rather use mouse with the game.

I tried Bejeweled on it. It's prefect, except my hand gets tired after 5~10 minutes.

Flash games for kids are good enough. You can interact directly on the screen. But I found my kids often just grab the mouse instead.

But for $380~, you can't even buy a tranditional film touch screen at 15".
A 19" tranditional film touch screen can easily go up to $600~800+.