[$_$]

This has been on the news and I kept expecting to see it on revscene, but I haven't. Did quick search didn't find anything either. I found this article extremely disturbing, and according to the timeline the student was in the drunk tank for a total of almost TEN hours. I don't think it takes ten hours to sober up. Again, its the police investigating the police.


A University of British Columbia student died suddenly two days after being released from jail in Whistler, B.C.
RCMP in Whistler arrested a 20-year-old UBC student from Saint John, N.B. on Tuesday, Feb. 23 just after 5 p.m. for being drunk in public.
He fell several times during while in custody, according to a Vancouver Police Department statement.
He was released at 3:30 a.m., and found unconscious at a UBC residence 23 hours later.
He died in hospital at about 1:30 p.m. Friday, Feb. 26., said Const. Lindsey Houghton, from the Vancouver Police Department.
RCMP have asked Vancouver police to investigate the death. They took over the investigation Thursday, when the victim was still alive.
Houghton could not confirm the victim's name, though CBC reports it is Silas Rogers from Saint John.
Houghton told QMI Agency the cause of death has not yet been determined, and that police do not yet know whether or not foul play is suspected.
When asked if the death could be related Rogers' stay in a Whistler jail Houghton said, "These are questions that our investigation will want answers to."

Source : http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/03/01/13067236-qmi.html

[hal0g0dv2]

rip

[Teh Doucher]

ive been in that drunk tank, its really clean.

[distanc3]

maybe a similar incident back in 2009 with aboriginal Frank Paul?
http://www.turtleisland.org/news/frankpaul.htm

RIP.

[Ax2-Y]

he died 23 hours later in a different city? why are you trying to connect dots that arent there?

[t8v6]

sorry but wats the drunk tank???:confused:

nvm google answered my question =)

[quasi]

This has been on the news and I kept expecting to see it on revscene, but I haven't. Did quick search didn't find anything either. I found this article extremely disturbing, and according to the timeline the student was in the drunk tank for a total of almost TEN hours. I don't think it takes ten hours to sober up. Again, its the police investigating the police.


I've never been in the drunk tank but 10 hours doesn't seem unreasonable to me. I'd be all for holding people for 24 hours so after they sober up they can sit there for a while as punishment for drinking like an idiot and think about how stupid drinking to that extent is. Unless the cops beat this guy and caused his death one thing really had nothing to do with the other IMO. If he passed out in an alley and then later died in his apartment or elsewhere that's really on the idiot drinking in extreme excess.

I also don't have a problem with them asking the question and investigating what really happened. If the police somehow lead to his death then that needs to be looked at but unless they beat him I don't see how.

[The7even]

I've never been in the drunk tank but 10 hours doesn't seem unreasonable to me. I'd be all for holding people for 24 hours so after they sober up they can sit there for a while as punishment for drinking like an idiot and think about how stupid drinking to that extent is. Unless the cops beat this guy and caused his death one thing really had nothing to do with the other IMO. If he passed out in an alley and then later died in his apartment or elsewhere that's really on the idiot drinking in extreme excess.

I also don't have a problem with them asking the question and investigating what really happened. If the police somehow lead to his death then that needs to be looked at but unless they beat him I don't see how.

There's no need to look further, he drank too much and died. It isn't rocket science. "oh maybe the cops did it"
No, maybe people are stupid and just die due to their own stupidity.
No one want's to take responsibility for anything anymore.

[Yuffa]

Or maybe the cops should have realized that there is something unusually wrong with him and send him to the hospital instead of the drunk tank?

He probably felt too painful/out of it to do anything at that point and the cops just assumed that he was just causing a scene...

[GLOW]

i'm no doctor, but could 1 possibility of his death be due to...alcohol poisoning? just throwing it out there.

[quasi]

Or maybe the cops should have realized that there is something unusually wrong with him and send him to the hospital instead of the drunk tank?

He probably felt too painful/out of it to do anything at that point and the cops just assumed that he was just causing a scene...

He could have went to the hospital instead of back to his apartment when he got out. He was let out in the morning of the 24th and died on the 26th, that part is on him not the Popo.

[azzurro32]

How drunk do you have to be to thrown in the DT? Like if you are walking home shitfaced? Or do you gotta be drunk and acting aggresive?
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[jaguar604]

Don't they have doctors and nurses that watch the people in drunk tanks?

23 hours is a long time, anything could of happened from the time he was released to when he was found dead. RIP.

[bcedhk]

maybe internal bleeding from the head pounding he got when he fell? Doctors wont be able to see it

[Vansterdam]

RIP

i ended up in the surrey drunk tank on the first day of the canadian mens hockey game lol :)


first thing i smell/see when i got out the next morning? someone smoking a doobie of some fine bc kush :)

[penner2k]

I believe 8 hours is the min. amount they put you in the tank for.
I spent 10 hours in the Merritt drunk tank a couple years back..

[Manic!]

Don't they have doctors and nurses that watch the people in drunk tanks?

23 hours is a long time, anything could of happened from the time he was released to when he was found dead. RIP.

No they don't and why should they? and 23 hours is not a long time to be in jail.

[bcrdukes]

It's too bad he died but I predict that the media will soon hold the VPD responsible followed by public outcry for mistreatment and lack of responsibility.

[Graeme S]

It's too bad he died but I predict that the media will soon hold the VPD responsible followed by public outcry for mistreatment and lack of responsibility.
RCMP. It happened in Whistler.

[dizzystar]

drunk tanks are fun, you can curse at the cops as much as you want and they cant do shit...

oh fuck... forgot, you do it in Victoria, sergeant chong will beat the SHIT out of you!

[jaguar604]

No they don't and why should they? and 23 hours is not a long time to be in jail.

Did you even read the article? He spent 10 hours in cells and he was found in his residence 23 hours after he was released.

I know the VPD has nurses for their cells, wondering if anyone knows whether the RCMP does as well.

[noventa]

when you are in the drunk tank do you have access to drinking water or the toilet?

[TypeRNammer]

Being in the drunk tank won't affect your record right?

Sorry I'm a noob at this :p

[November]

The police will throw you in the drunk tank as long as they "believe" you're drunk. They don't have any set of guidelines it seems.

I have a friend who got thrown in when he was sober just because someone told the police that he was drunk. Can he complain for unlawful arrest? Or detaining him without some kinda warrant?

They just throw you into the tank and sorta... leave you there. They don't really come back to check on you. No doctors or nurses.

He was in there for about 5 hours... 2AM - 7AM. And no, he didn't get offered any water or anything. People were pissing and puking on themselves in his cell, or passed out on the floor. Oh, and when they release you, your wallet will usually be missing about $100 or so. I know this because it's happened to 2 people I know.

[Manic!]

The police will throw you in the drunk tank as long as they "believe" you're drunk. They don't have any set of guidelines it seems.

I have a friend who got thrown in when he was sober just because someone told the police that he was drunk. Can he complain for unlawful arrest? Or detaining him without some kinda warrant?

They just throw you into the tank and sorta... leave you there. They don't really come back to check on you. No doctors or nurses.

He was in there for about 5 hours... 2AM - 7AM. And no, he didn't get offered any water or anything. People were pissing and puking on themselves in his cell, or passed out on the floor. Oh, and when they release you, your wallet will usually be missing about $100 or so. I know this because it's happened to 2 people I know.


I call BS.

[m4k4v4li]

its not BS. this case may be unrelated but I'm surprised more people don't end up in the hospital as a result of being unattended in the drunk tank. keep in mind its not just people who are drunk that are in there... most of them are there for getting in fights. with untreated wounds. there are crack heads in there sometimes OD'ing or passed out. the cops don't even respond to u u pretty much are treated like an animal.

ppl are usually let out at 7-8am and you can't sleep in there either its cold as fuck.

fuck the VPD and fuck the RCMP.

[falcon]

Don't drink?

[Gnomes]

its not BS. this case may be unrelated but I'm surprised more people don't end up in the hospital as a result of being unattended in the drunk tank. keep in mind its not just people who are drunk that are in there... most of them are there for getting in fights. with untreated wounds. there are crack heads in there sometimes OD'ing or passed out. the cops don't even respond to u u pretty much are treated like an animal.

ppl are usually let out at 7-8am and you can't sleep in there either its cold as fuck.

fuck the VPD and fuck the RCMP.

Don't drink?

:thumbsup:

[PiuYi]

He could have went to the hospital instead of back to his apartment when he got out. He was let out in the morning of the 24th and died on the 26th, that part is on him not the Popo.

I think the reason they're investigating this is because if he passed out in his own apartment afterwards, its questionable how sober he was when he left the station and whether the police should have released him if he wasn't yet sober or was still showing signs of drunken-ness after 10hrs...

plus police are responsible for your safety when you're in their custody so the fact that he fell so many times and wasn't looked at is a problem too, he could have bumped his head and needed medical attention but it obviously wasn't given

[hk20000]

but then most people would assume 10hours sitting around doing nothing would clear your head out pretty good...

[seakrait]

Being in the drunk tank won't affect your record right?

Sorry I'm a noob at this :p

when you say record, i assume you're specifically talking about a criminal record check. you being SIPP'd to jail (or DIPP if you've been dealt with by the RCMP) will always be on your police record (ie: whenever a cop runs you), but it won't necessarily show up on a criminal record check (most likely not but it's dependant on the department/detachment where you get your criminal record check - if you live in vancouver, you have to go to vpd. if you live in burnaby, you have to go to burnaby rcmp. etc.).

[AzNightmare]

I have no pity for idiots that over drink. If you end up in a drunk tank, you're probably a loser in life anyway.

[twitchyzero]

^ you will get a record on the police files, but i think to have it come on your criminal record you have to be charged/convicted...sorry im horrible with my legal terms.

[raygunpk]

I have no pity for idiots that over drink. If you end up in a drunk tank, you're probably a loser in life anyway.

you must have missed out on a long ass party called high school

[underscore]

This has been on the news and I kept expecting to see it on revscene, but I haven't. Did quick search didn't find anything either. I found this article extremely disturbing, and according to the timeline the student was in the drunk tank for a total of almost TEN hours. I don't think it takes ten hours to sober up. Again, its the police investigating the police.



Source : http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/03/01/13067236-qmi.html

I think your body can process something like 1 drink per hour. So erring on the side of caution, 10 hours sounds reasonable to hold a person.

Considering they found him passed out and haven't released the CoD yet, I'd say it's a bit early to be putting any blame on the RCMP.

If you're in the tank it's usually cause you were acting like an idiot in public, now I'm sorry but if you choose to get that drunk stay in a private residence/restaurant/bar/whatever.

[Teh Doucher]

you must have missed out on a long ass party called high school

and college... in all honesty, im that kind of person that you would least expect to end up in a drunk tank. that night just happened to be the one night i went over board... also, a drunk tank visit does not show up in your criminal record, at least from what i am aware of.

[achiam]

Hi everyone, just a professional bit of knowledge to share with y'all.

Often, diabetics can be confused with drunks. If a diabetic's sugar levels fall too low, they become hypoglycemic, meaning their brain gets insufficient sugar and leading to drowsiness/drunk-like behavior. This is especially dangerous if a diabetic goes binge drinking as it would be harder to figure out if he/she was going into hypoglycemia (up to friends to watch out and ask him/her!).

[AzNightmare]

you must have missed out on a long ass party called high school

and college... in all honesty, im that kind of person that you would least expect to end up in a drunk tank. that night just happened to be the one night i went over board... also, a drunk tank visit does not show up in your criminal record, at least from what i am aware of.

Just saying, I made smarter decisions in my life than to drink way past my limit
and end up in a drunk tank. Yeah, people do stupid things when they are young,
but I don't think even then, I did anything that stupid.

But obviously, I'm not gonna bother arguing with you guys if you think being in a
drunk tank is something to be proud about.

[Benz_05TSX]

^ thats very interesting... so some ppl look drunk but they are not?

[The7even]

Or maybe the cops should have realized that there is something unusually wrong with him and send him to the hospital instead of the drunk tank?

He probably felt too painful/out of it to do anything at that point and the cops just assumed that he was just causing a scene...

I see what you're sayin dude, but I disagree.

The cops aren't your personal body guard / parents.
It's their job to keep you safe from others, but to baby sit people, that is not . This guy brought it on him self. I hate the fact that we're even talkin about blaming the cops. Yeah, a thorough investigation is in order. To see maybe if they used force, but if that isn't the case...

[hotjoint]

I honestly dont know why people enjoy drinking so much. After 1 or 2 beers I'm good. I see people drinking bottles of JD, tequila, vodka like water.

[bengy]

^ Most people start binge drinking from early highschool and build up high tolerance to alchohol.

[underscore]

^ I'm going to make the assumption he's also Asian = typically a lower tolerance. I'm half Quebecois and half English, so if I eat a dece meal it can take quite a few drinks to have an effect. 1 or 2 beers even on an empty stomach won't do anything.

[raygunpk]

Just saying, I made smarter decisions in my life than to drink way past my limit
and end up in a drunk tank. Yeah, people do stupid things when they are young,
but I don't think even then, I did anything that stupid.

But obviously, I'm not gonna bother arguing with you guys if you think being in a
drunk tank is something to be proud about.

i've personally never been in the drunk tank, i'm just surprised you've never got super drunk as a teen. i don't really drink much anymore when i go out as i'm usually driving, but back then getting super smashed, blacking out, then hearing the stories from other people...those are good memories.

[m4k4v4li]

you don't understand people who drink way past their limit

well i don't understand people who have never drank past their limit. u friggen prude.

when i party i like to go hard.

[azzurro32]

you don't understand people who drink way past their limit

well i don't understand people who have never drank past their limit. u friggen prude.

when i party i like to go hard.

+1

only time I have a beer is if I plan to party. And I drink to get drunk. These days that's only a handful of times a year.

You clearly didn't drink enuff if you remembered your whole night.
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[Noir]

you don't understand people who drink way past their limit

well i don't understand people who have never drank past their limit. u friggen prude.

when i party i like to go hard.

Because most people don't feel they're past their limit until it really kicks in. Alcohol has a delayed effect sometimes in which makes feel you're fine first and then you just drop.

[raygunpk]

Because most people don't feel they're past their limit until it really kicks in. Alcohol has a delayed effect sometimes in which makes feel you're fine first and then you just drop.

especially true for tequila, which i will never touch ever again

[dicecube]

I have no pity for idiots that over drink. If you end up in a drunk tank, you're probably a loser in life anyway.

How fucking dense can you be?

[JSALES]

drunk tank is brutal, never wanna go in there