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How old were you when YOU moved out?
The_AK
03-03-2010, 01:20 PM
So I've been thinking about this lately and thinking about my future. I'm wondering at what age did others move out of their parents' place and what was your greatest challenge? How did you overcome it?
Greenstoner
03-03-2010, 01:25 PM
other than RENT, just remeber everything costs money from toilet paper, shampoo to cooking stuff like oil, salt, ketchup ..hahah
Think twice before you move out ... :D
get a gf or bf to share your cost
fishing666
03-03-2010, 01:26 PM
be asian..u dont move out. and if you do it's because u are better off than ur parents. Your parents will therefore move in with you. Note that even if you are super wealthy with lets say 2mil in assets and own 2houses. your parents will still live in your house given that they don't own houses.
FN-2199
03-03-2010, 01:29 PM
Moved out when I was 19. I'm still 19!
Greatest thing to overcome is definitely money. Rent, insurance, food, etc.
It wasn't too bad for me because I've got a couple of roomies, and our rent and utilities is cheap :D
Presto
03-03-2010, 01:33 PM
I first moved out when I was 19. My parents wanted to start charging me rent to encourage me to get another job, and do something with my life. Anyways, their plan to motivate me greatly backfired, and they encouraged me to move back, rent free. That all happened in a month.
I really moved out at 22. I had acquired a decent paying job, and could afford moving out on my own. The greatest challenge was having no one to blame things on, but yourself. Dirty dishes. Filthy bathroom. Crusty floors. Yeah... it was all me. Eventually, you work out a system. :)
im asian, i moved out at 22.
i love my parents but it was the best thing i ever did.
Phil@rise
03-03-2010, 01:45 PM
17. Money is always the number one issue no matter how much you got its never enough and the nickel n dime shit will kill ya.
But it earned me some respect with my old man figured my shit out went to school got a job and had a kid all at the same time and never asked for help
ray666
03-03-2010, 01:50 PM
I moved out when I was 22. I am asian as well (not sure why it really matters)
Like what other people are saying, expenses in my opinion are the hardest thing to work out. The first few months is probably the hardest since you have to pay for new furniture, appliances, cookware, etc. And all these things will start to add up.
As long as you make a decent wage and are smart with your money, you should be fine after settling in in your place.
hotjoint
03-03-2010, 01:51 PM
The biggest challenge will always be money because you can't just blow it all on partying. You have to think about rent, food, bills etc before looking at what you have left for entertainment. You overcome it by setting priorities in your life which matter more then going out to party every weekend
Greenstoner
03-03-2010, 01:57 PM
Unless you are loaded or get paid tons of money,
more freedom but less entertainment is the best way to describe it when moving out
tool001
03-03-2010, 02:06 PM
17. got a part time job, while in college. moved out....u learn alot when u move out..
parents offered to pay back for student loan if i move back in,,but i said no thank u.
q0192837465
03-03-2010, 02:17 PM
26 & still at home. Saving for downpayment. I don't think I'll ever truly move out since I plan to bring my mom along whereever I go.
Moved out when I almost turned 19. Been out for a year, and it's been great. The freedom you get is wonderful and making your choices empowers you. But I feel like a lot is pulling me back. I've managed to save some money and had help from another side of the family, but even with the money in the bank I'm considering moving back in until the end of either my university career or the start of a steady source of income. Sometimes it might just be time to let go of your pride and make the smarter and easier choice or I could prove to no one but maybe myself. I may have toughed it out in the world, but did I make the most out of my time to help me advance myself to where I want to be....
It's a tough choice.
Mizter
03-03-2010, 02:37 PM
I go to school in Onterrible so I moved out when I was 18, aka September of 2009. Really liking the independence not so much the household chores.
tonyvu
03-03-2010, 02:38 PM
be asian..u dont move out. and if you do it's because u are better off than ur parents. Your parents will therefore move in with you. Note that even if you are super wealthy with lets say 2mil in assets and own 2houses. your parents will still live in your house given that they don't own houses.
exactly the case with me
twitchyzero
03-03-2010, 02:48 PM
i plan to move out when i'm 22. Money shouldn't be too much of an issue after i finish school and get a job...i think the biggest hurdle is probably learning to cook on my own...since i have ZERO cooking experience.
NeoDestinyZ
03-03-2010, 02:50 PM
I had the same situation as most of you guys, but I rather be strong and stay with my folks. You can save up tons of money for your future or your project car, and go back to school and get an actual career. Until then you will get a good job and eventually move out have a girlfriend and maybe marry her and start your own life from there.
Gumby
03-03-2010, 03:11 PM
Moved out when I was 26, the day I signed my life away (i.e. got married). :)
And I'm asian.
Leopold Stotch
03-03-2010, 03:26 PM
i plan to stay with my parents in South Park for a long time, iuno if they'll ever make me live on my own.
Jsunu
03-03-2010, 03:30 PM
Still living with my parents and trying to save up for a down payment, but it is soo hard not to spend all your disposible income, especially considering what board I am a member of.
I had the same situation as most of you guys, but I rather be strong and stay with my folks. You can save up tons of money for your future or your project car, and go back to school and get an actual career. Until then you will get a good job and eventually move out have a girlfriend and maybe marry her and start your own life from there.
nothing wrong with that. personally i'd rather have freedom now while young than save up for freedom later when old. diff strokes for diff folks.
quasi
03-03-2010, 03:31 PM
One things for sure, once you leave I don't think you'd ever go back unless you had to because of financial reasons. It's been said but it changes your priorities because you don't have nearly as much disposible income. Once you start having kids then it really gets sketchy. :) If we didn't get into the real estate market when we did I don't know how we'd do it starting now.
Inaii
03-03-2010, 03:36 PM
Moved out when I was 25. Sort of had to since my mom found a place to live while we were still looking for one. I'd say money is the hardest thing for me since my boss laid me off a couple weeks after I moved out and I haven't been able to find work since (I'm still 25 btw).
Volvoman
03-03-2010, 03:57 PM
fuck rent
you like paying for someone's mortgage? Live home, save up for a downpayment instead
Brianrietta
03-03-2010, 03:59 PM
20 to go to Kelowna for two years before coming back home, and then again at 23 to head to Ontario for school. The biggest challenge for me wasn't financial, it was just the fact that I'd gotten really used to being around my family, particularly my mother. I come from a really close family so being away (depending on where you move to) can be a drain on you mentally.
Mugen EvOlutioN
03-03-2010, 04:00 PM
fuck rent
you like paying for someone's mortgage? Live home, save up for a downpayment instead
exactly what im doing right now
The_AK
03-03-2010, 04:09 PM
fuck rent
you like paying for someone's mortgage? Live home, save up for a downpayment instead
Thats my plan as well, i want to see my money go somewhere when I move out. (btw, im 20 and still living at home)
JSALES
03-03-2010, 04:13 PM
for those of you who moved out at 19, did you guys have pretty decent paying jobs?
raygunpk
03-03-2010, 04:16 PM
19, best AND worst decision of my life.
StylinRed
03-03-2010, 04:17 PM
it depends on your family culture and yourself
u know asians would have you stay @ home forever
don't feel compelled to move out because your getting older
but be aware that nothing is free... that nice budget you had for yourself to party is going to be much smaller... maybe even non-existent; you'll have less time too because u'll need to take time up to clean/fix things/buy groceries/visit rents/etc etc
Hondaracer
03-03-2010, 04:28 PM
fuck rent
you like paying for someone's mortgage? Live home, save up for a downpayment instead
my outlook, especially with these prices
i know of people who moved out because they couldnt smoke fucking weed in their rents house
have fun renting for your whole lives lol
jaguar604
03-03-2010, 04:31 PM
Moved out 19 when I started working full time combined with school. Moved back in at 22 because I was flat out broke and didn't want to be in debt.
Meowjin
03-03-2010, 04:37 PM
26 & still at home. Saving for downpayment. I don't think I'll ever truly move out since I plan to bring my mom along whereever I go.
yep same thing with my dad. I got left with him :/
FN-2199
03-03-2010, 04:41 PM
for those of you who moved out at 19, did you guys have pretty decent paying jobs?
Yup. I currently hold two jobs. One of them = $15.00 and the other = $19.00
Eatman
03-03-2010, 05:20 PM
moved out at age 25, love living on my own.. It's just the freedom and privacy that really gets you hooked. As mentioned above, money does become an issue as you have to put yourself on a budget, every dollar really adds up.
RRxtar
03-03-2010, 05:22 PM
22. and it took my hate filled relationship with my mom to a real good friendship.
Gnomes
03-03-2010, 05:28 PM
26 & still at home. Saving for downpayment. I don't think I'll ever truly move out since I plan to bring my mom along whereever I go.
Very admirable to bring your mother along and to overlook the potential image of "mama's boy". Mad props to you!:thumbsup:
Being single and not having a large social network, it gets very lonely being home alone sometimes. I basically wake up, go to work, off work to home. Buy groceries, cook, clean dishes, do house chores. By the time I am done, bed time for another early shift next day. I am still living at home and sometimes am glad to.
maxxxboost
03-03-2010, 05:44 PM
I'm still at home *basement*
It depends what future you are looking for.
Future as in independence
Future in having a place that you own
etc.
If it's having a place to own yourself, then moving out at a younger age is probably not what you are looking for.
I cannot justify paying rent if i had the option not to. But that's becasue of the chinese mentality i have.
I'm waiting to finish school, get a well paying job and have a large downpayment. Make things easier at the end.
So maybe determine what exactly you want and go from there. It's nice to read other peoples experiences.
Blah_Teggie
03-03-2010, 06:00 PM
I've moved out twice. First time I was 19. Didn't think I was ready but it turned out ok. Moved back home cuz parents got divorced and mom wanted me back at home. Left again when I was 25 and don't think I'll ever move back.
murd0c
03-03-2010, 06:10 PM
When I was 28 (wait im still 27) I have a carport turned into a room computer tv couch bed etc. My old man is never home so I don't mind it.
Saying that he bought a house with a sick ass bsmt suite (I mean killer I should post a pic) that me and the g/f are going to be renting out starting March31. I'm pretty darn excited been with the women now for 10yrs and its about time we move out together. Shes done school now so can finally afford it.
Honestly its all about the situtation my parents split up when I was 17 and my dad only has my sister and me. I would honestly get worried him being alone if anything happens ya know.
1exotic
03-03-2010, 06:18 PM
I moved out at the age of 19 to LA, California. I was working at a shop selling aftermarket tuning parts. Later at 22 I purchased my first car, a 1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST. Several years later at 24 my project eclipse was finished, it was green, hooked with nos, and topped out at about 149mph. Not that long later I was involved in street racing and making better money. My next car came a short while later... it was a 1995 Toyota Supra project car. I beat a ferrari 355 spider so it was quite fast.... So yeah my advice is move out and work, get involved in street racing and get good street credit.
Mananetwork
03-03-2010, 06:31 PM
fuck rent
you like paying for someone's mortgage? Live home, save up for a downpayment instead
Easier said then done when your parents don't own a house. I'd love to move back, get free food, be worry free and save money but that can't happen.
Technically at 22, after collage, but then my parents would still keep my room/bath empty cause they want me to come home anytime. Eventually decided to rent my apartment out and live with them, free meals and 2 spaces in the garage for me hee hee. In return I pay for their vacations every year.
Oh yeah am Asian and love my parents.
SkinnyPupp
03-03-2010, 06:40 PM
17, Had to get out, went on social assistance so I could live on my own and finish high school. But eventually my gf and I shared a house with her mom anyway :lol
Inaii
03-03-2010, 07:14 PM
Not everyone can stay at home forever. So the whole "fuck rent" thing doesn't apply. If you can, then go for it! I'd rather be living at home, but I can't so I pay rent.
spoon.ek9
03-03-2010, 07:28 PM
moved out at 20, never looked back. best thing i ever did for myself.
money will always be an issue. IF you can stand living at home, do it and save your money for a downpayment as others have suggested. it will pay off in the end. if i could stand my "family" for more than 5 minutes i would have stayed.
some quick mortgage math to think about:
suggested downpayment is 25%
so for a $200,000 apartment that's $50,000.
sure, you can pay less than 25% but you'll get raped by the bank. so, on top of having $50,000 to drop on a down payment, you still need money to continue paying your mortgage as well as other bills (gas/electricity/water/cable/internet/management fee/insurance(home and/or auto)/etc).
if you're desperate to get out of a bad situation, then you will have to rent and save up money at a much slower rate.
SkinnyPupp
03-03-2010, 07:32 PM
Is there a such thing as a $200,000 apartment anymore?
Inaii
03-03-2010, 07:35 PM
Sure if you dont mind not having walls and only a shower stall. As well as a barebone kitchen.
spoon.ek9
03-03-2010, 07:43 PM
Is there a such thing as a $200,000 apartment anymore?
not many, most are leaseholds now. generally, the $200,000-$225,000 apartments are available for renting more than they are for sale. and you're looking at apartment buildings that are anywhere between 15-50 years old. you can also expect things like shared laundry and no parking spot (not even on the street at some places!).
this was more of a numbers example than anything else.
SkinnyPupp
03-03-2010, 07:50 PM
I just wondered because I left over 4 years ago, and was wondering if the real estate market has changed much in that time.
spoon.ek9
03-03-2010, 07:55 PM
you really have to constantly look for a good deal. best deal i saw recently was a foreclosed apartment being sold for $40,000 below current market value.
no_clue
03-03-2010, 08:05 PM
nowadays for our generation, it's really hard to move out right after you get your degree and a entry level salary. If we lived in like calgary or houston where real estate and rent is cheap, maybe then we can actually own a house or move out, not be herded into a $450 000 600sqft condo like in vancouver. Plus the fact that there aren't that many big companies here, job market kinda stinks too.
SkinnyPupp
03-03-2010, 08:18 PM
Man it would suck to have to rely on degrees, salaries and jobs at "big companies" to live my life. So glad I didn't go to school!
RenoMan
03-03-2010, 08:18 PM
13 thru 15, it sucked because i had to cook and deal with school. Parents paid for most of it that time but i officially moved out and started working right before end of grad of highschool. Moved back in for a year during grade 11 but realised it wasnt for me. Shit was hard being so young and tryna overcome so much at such a sort time. Your forced to learn and step it up because no ones gonna do it for you when you move out. If you think you can support yourself go ahead but you will definatly hit some rough patches and this will help you gain lots of experience.
no_clue
03-03-2010, 08:25 PM
Man it would suck to have to rely on degrees, salaries and jobs at "big companies" to live my life. So glad I didn't go to school!
judging from your poker thing, are you an internet entrepreneur? so jealous
teach me your ways
JSALES
03-03-2010, 08:34 PM
were some of you guys going to school full time as well? because i think it'd be tough to make rent every month while working and going to school at the same time
StylinRed
03-03-2010, 08:36 PM
I moved out at the age of 19 to LA, California. I was working at a shop selling aftermarket tuning parts. Later at 22 I purchased my first car, a 1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST. Several years later at 24 my project eclipse was finished, it was green, hooked with nos, and topped out at about 149mph. Not that long later I was involved in street racing and making better money. My next car came a short while later... it was a 1995 Toyota Supra project car. I beat a ferrari 355 spider so it was quite fast.... So yeah my advice is move out and work, get involved in street racing and get good street credit.
nobody catch the F&F reference?
http://www.ramoree.com/img/movies/6446fast%20and%20furious%204.jpg
u forgot to add you were a cop too
CanadaGoose
03-03-2010, 09:02 PM
I moved out at the age of 19 to LA, California. I was working at a shop selling aftermarket tuning parts. Later at 22 I purchased my first car, a 1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST. Several years later at 24 my project eclipse was finished, it was green, hooked with nos, and topped out at about 149mph. Not that long later I was involved in street racing and making better money. My next car came a short while later... it was a 1995 Toyota Supra project car. I beat a ferrari 355 spider so it was quite fast.... So yeah my advice is move out and work, get involved in street racing and get good street credit.
Don't forget a turning point in your life was when you saved a street racing king (who also had his hands deep in racketeering schemes) from the cops, and he walked around his living room grabbing everyone's beers and yelling
BECAUSE THE BUSTER BROUGHT ME BACK!!!1! THE BUSTER, BROUGHT ME BACK!!
Chuck Norris
03-03-2010, 09:19 PM
I moved out twice. Once when I was 19 and I lived with friends and paid nothing.
It was pretty much a joke since I was living in an awesome house with 4 other rich people and all I had to pay for was my car. I moved back 2 years later at 21 to be with my parents because my mother was sick.
I moved out again at 24 and the rest is history.
The biggest factor for me initially was money but you get used to it very quickly. I got over the money issue pretty fast because I had a good job and a lot of additional income. At the time when I first moved out, I was making about $4000 after tax a month and I was shocked because when I lived at home $4k a month was balling but on my own I felt below average.
It's crazy how much a mortgage, RSP contributions, bills and food take away from money I used to spend on $500 jeans. It was a huge wake up call to the real value of money.
I also learned a lot about how difficult life is and I had a whole new respect for my dad since he was the only one working to support the family and we lived very well. I realized how much stress he must have been under back when he was starting his business with a baby at home and a wife not working.
choda
03-03-2010, 09:53 PM
17, Damn I miss home cooked meals :cry:
TypeRNammer
03-03-2010, 10:04 PM
So who wants to buy a house in Detroit for 5 grand :haha:
1exotic
03-03-2010, 10:08 PM
nobody catch the F&F reference?
http://www.ramoree.com/img/movies/6446fast%20and%20furious%204.jpg
u forgot to add you were a cop too
Well that was just the early stages of my life. Now I'm 34, and own a blue 2000 Nissan Skyline GT-R R34. I've been working with the cops as well. I will be teaming up with my pal Dom in the near future >>>>> (F&F 5 was announced)
twitchyzero
03-03-2010, 10:26 PM
your stupid F&F antics got old by the 2nd time
jeffh
03-03-2010, 10:35 PM
late 18, money was tight, hell it still is
but your not your own man living out of your parents house
ive always wondered what you guys do when you want to bring a girl home? is it like highschool and you have to leave the door open?
SumAznGuy
03-03-2010, 10:36 PM
First moved out when I was 19. Didn't have a choice to stay home as my parents were near broke and had to rent a one bedroom apartment.
Money is an issue as well as learning to fend for myself. Cooking, washing dishes, laundry,vaccuming, cleaning the washroom, keeping toilet paper stocked up.
lancergts1986
03-03-2010, 10:44 PM
moved out at 19 right after i got my first full time job. i have to say i have learned alot about life after i moved out(im 23 now), i use to spend all my money on useless shit like parties and cloth. and i never saved up while i was at home. but ever since i moved out i bought my first car. soon second car(and way better than the first). paying for my school and rent. also making my full rrsp and tfsa contribution every year and have a little on the side to mod my car. I think when u move out ur life becomes alot harder on alot of things, it puts alot of pressure on u. but the pressure will make you smarter and more mature. i know tons of people who lives at home and dont save a penny.(btw im asian too if that matters)
Edison_Chen
03-03-2010, 10:47 PM
I moved out for a few years now, since I was 22 or 23, I will be turning 25 in a few months; I'm currently living with my wife, thus we split the expenses, but still quite a bit of money compared to what I make at work.
I visit go to my parent's house maybe once or twice a week, depending on my work schedule.
NeoDestinyZ
03-03-2010, 10:47 PM
nobody catch the F&F reference?
http://www.ramoree.com/img/movies/6446fast%20and%20furious%204.jpg
u forgot to add you were a cop too
Wow everybody thanks for sharing your wonderful stories, and for the F&F part. That was actually kinda funny, I happen to have a eclipse then ending up with a supra later on.
miss_crayon
03-03-2010, 10:48 PM
I don't know how you guys survive, I admire and give full eprops to those who hold a job, go to school and have to pay for all their shiz.
Anyhow, if my life goes as planned then I'll be out of this beautiful place I call home within 2 years (25). Hopefully.
moved out at 19 right after i got my first full time job. i have to say i have learned alot about life after i moved out(im 23 now), i use to spend all my money on useless shit like parties and cloth. and i never saved up while i was at home. but ever since i moved out i bought my first car. soon second car(and way better than the first). paying for my school and rent. also making my full rrsp and tfsa contribution every year and have a little on the side to mod my car. I think when u move out ur life becomes alot harder on alot of things, it puts alot of pressure on u. but the pressure will make you smarter and more mature. i know tons of people who lives at home and dont save a penny.(btw im asian too if that matters)
i agree with that last part. when i was living at home i wasnt saving anything, because i had so much disposable income i didnt know what to do with it other than blow it all! i'd buy up all sorts of useless shit. once i moved out i learned the value of the dollar. im still a horrible saver sometimes, but learned a ton about money and savings/investing as a product of necessity.
hotjoint
03-04-2010, 08:57 AM
The smart people are the ones that can save their money while they're living at home instead of blowing it on useless shit
i agree that thats the strategy to save the most money possible, but "smartest strategy"? thats subjective to what your priorities are in life.
i still think moving out is worth the extra money early, if you can move out and save extra money at the same time (granted not as quickly as living at home)
its kind of like the argument about people who save all their pennies for retirement.
people who save till they're almost dead until they can start living (maybe an extreme example)
and theres always the argument about renting vs owning, but i wont get into that.
Moved out when I was 24 (moved to Denver). By then I was pretty financially stable so it wasn't a huge challenge money wise. It definitely is a bit more work than living with the folks.
Anyways, that lasted 5 years and now I'm back with the parents again because they're reaching the age where they need frequent assistance. As fun as my time living on my own was, family has (and always will be) the priority. It's also helped me put together a decent chunk of money for a down payment for a place.
blum2001
03-04-2010, 09:53 AM
My situation has been a move out move in pattern but thankfully my parents allowed me to come back home temporarily on a few occasions.
Bought my first apartment before the real estate boom at 23, moved out for 6months and blew all my savings away partying, learned that the hard way.
Moved back home for a year and a half, saved like crazy and used a bit of my equity to purchase a second apartment.
Lived in the second place for a year, then got an opportunity to rent out both apartments for money I could not refuse, back with the parents temporarily, save save save, equity and savings for a third apartment.
Back on my own for 2 years then back home for 2 months while cashing in on the olympic rental, and now that the olympics are over i'm moving back downtown in a week.
Tapioca
03-04-2010, 10:11 AM
My first experience away from home was when, at the age of 22, I moved across the country to take up a co-op job. Even though I lived with roommates and I was away only 8 months, that experience taught me a lot about taking care of myself. I still managed to save up enough money to pay for the final year of my undergrad. Moving back home was a bit of an adjustment though.
I've been out permanently for 3 years and while it's been really good for the most part, the one thing I regret is not starting another degree while at home. I want to go back to my school to do a Masters of some sort, but when you're saddled with a mortgage, it's a very tough thing to do. On the other hand, doing things around the house and decorating, can be kind of fun too. Oh, and once you move out, you'll understand what "keeping up with the Joneses" actually means.
Liquid_o2
03-04-2010, 10:12 AM
25, still living at home at the moment. Finished school 2 years ago and have been working full time, saving up for grad school. Supposed to hear back about my applications this month, so I will know if I am moving out to Vancouver or Toronto.
If I go to Toronto then I have to rent. No other choice in that regard... but if I get into UBC, I might look into buying a small 1 bedroom.
I get along pretty well with my parents so living at home has been fine, but I am finally reaching that age where I need to get out on my own.
Tim Budong
03-04-2010, 10:38 AM
moved out at 22
the best move and worst move ever for me
Learned to be even more independent, at the same time really miss the lack of responsibility and home cooked meals
mikemhg
03-04-2010, 04:05 PM
Moved out at 22. Seeing as I had to pay rent when living with my Mother anyways, it made sense.
Greatest move ever, turned a situation where I couldn't stand being around my mother, to now enjoying her company more when I do visit.
I share an apt with my GF, I definitely recommend getting a roomate or a GF, that way costs are low, we split everything 50/50.
I don't think I'd ever move back home, being independent and having your own place is one of the best things in the world.
slammer111
03-04-2010, 04:26 PM
Living at home at 28. Sister's 30 and still here as well. Both of us are saving up our downpayments. Why set yourself back financially if you can avoid it? We all know how expensive GVRD RE is.
Maybe it's a cultural thing too but pretty much everyone I know who hasn't moved elsewhere to work still lives at home, unless they bought their own place. :)
Honestly it really comes down to how you get along with your family. Sure we drive each other nuts once in a while but you also learn to compromise.
Hondaracer
03-04-2010, 04:44 PM
^ I'd say that's the major thing getting along with family = sticking around longer
privacy etc isn't a big thing with me it's not like I'm hounded and I work hard so there's nothing for anyone to complain about
I could even see a situation down the road moving in with my grandparents to take care of them if it came to that
for me, I'd rather live amongst family then be alone in some apartment by myself, so far I've yet to meet a chick I can tolerate spending time with long term let alone living with
and I'll tell ya, the pre-nup that I'll write up if the time eventually does come will scare most women away anyways :p
I can't help but lol @ ppl I used to know in highschool I see on FB having kids and shit with crappy jobs and broke ass parents, sure I'm sure your "in love" but this is the real world and you've pretty much determined what the next 25 years of your life are going to be like
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Teh Doucher
03-04-2010, 04:52 PM
fuck rent
you like paying for someone's mortgage? Live home, save up for a downpayment instead
this is the only reason i havent moved out yet
thebluew
03-04-2010, 11:25 PM
Anyone watch Jersey Shore?
Vinny's mother. I'm sure if must us had a mom like her, we'd stay home.
I don't know much about Italien culture but when I did door to door sales, I saw a lot of Italien families where the son still lives with the parents. Young and old.
Either way, if you don't get along with your family, it's probably best to move out to lower stress. Life's too short to stress everyday.
Teh Doucher
03-05-2010, 09:20 PM
Anyone watch Jersey Shore?
Vinny's mother. I'm sure if must us had a mom like her, we'd stay home.
I don't know much about Italien culture but when I did door to door sales, I saw a lot of Italien families where the son still lives with the parents. Young and old.
Either way, if you don't get along with your family, it's probably best to move out to lower stress. Life's too short to stress everyday.
thats how im living right now, im going fucking mad, but i cant afford to move out yet and i absolutely will not pay rent.. im kinda fucked :(
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