[fishing666]

so, i got a haircut and i paid for the haircut. I gave the barber a $20 bill and he gave me $6 (1 toonie 4 loonies) I gave it some thought and I got confused.

He had all coins/bills in his cash register
Why did he not give me $6 ( 1 loonie 1 $5 bill)?

obviously i now know he wanted a tip for the haircut

but i did not give him a tip because i don't like throwing away my money.

I know most of you guys are used to tipping for service since you probably grew up here and it's like 2nd nature to you. To me, it's like throwing away my money and it is no different from let's say tipping a your cable installer, busdriver, teacher, tutor, and even the guy opening the door for you. Am I wrong for not tipping? Where do I draw the line whether to tip or not to tip.

[unit]

WTF? tip your barber you cheap ass. hes cutting your damn hair you definitely want him to WANT to do a good job.

[hotjoint]

I used to pay $7 for my haircut and tip $3. You're paying way too much for a haircut.

[Greenstoner]

i tip barber whenever i feel like, its not mandatory ....

[hotjoint]

i tip barber whenever i feel like, its not mandatory ....

true, its up to you but majority of the people will tip. You shouldnt feel bad if you dont want to tip. I hate people who expect any type of tip in their industry.

[Phil@rise]

Where do you come from? Have you ever considered finding a barber that comes from the same place as you? That way he will be familiar with your customs.
Because here it is customary to tip certain customer service professions and there pay is structured as such.

[fishing666]

Where do you come from? Have you ever considered finding a barber that comes from the same place as you? That way he will be familiar with your customs.
Because here it is customary to tip certain customer service professions and there pay is structured as such.

I actually come from here in Ladner where everybody is caucasian. I just find it disturbing to know that if I don't tip for service, the service I get next time might not be adequate for what I paid for. For example, tipping in a restaurant might save you from getting your food spat on next time or serving you a plate you did not order. In the case of barber, he might purposely hurt you while cutting your hair.

I believe tipping should be reserved for an actual "well done" compliment. It seems that it is becoming customary to the point where it is mandatory to tip leaves no room to really give a thanking compliment for the service.

It's just another damn trick to get your money. no joke

[Dragon-88]

I always tip $1-2, been using the same person for the last 10 years.. Last thing i would want is someone to hate me while cutting my hair.

[1exotic]

you have no soul.

[2 n r]

im not gonna say anything about anyone but personally, my haircut cost 15 and i tip 5
what can i say, they give a good haircut and the chic is pretty good looking

[Greenstoner]

^ where is this haircut place? Let me go over and examine to see if your words are true


haha

[Noir]

but i did not give him a tip because i don't like throwing away my money.

I know most of you guys are used to tipping for service since you probably grew up here and it's like 2nd nature to you. To me, it's like throwing away my money and it is no different from let's say tipping a your cable installer, busdriver, teacher, tutor, and even the guy opening the door for you. Am I wrong for not tipping? Where do I draw the line whether to tip or not to tip.

I agree with you. This concept was so foreign to me until I experienced living in countries other than ones in North America.

I tip however as it's customary here, whether the service was exceptional or mediocre.
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[7seven]

I always tip my stylist $5, been going to her for 6 years now.

[NeoDestinyZ]

I go to a stylist, so of course it will cost more. Barber are usually cheaper because they just cut your hair short etc. Back then tips were invented for economic stimulation or low waging jobs that needed a boost. I can see where this is coming from, a lot and I mean a lot of places now really expects people to tip. I work in a restaurant so I would know, people nowadays just tip for services and good products. It's quite true when your saving money, tips can be a burden and it can add up in difficult times. Especially when your going to a expensive restaurant paying $100 dollars for a group of friends meal then ending up paying 10-20%, this can be a burden and financially uneconomical. But this doesn't consider yourself selfish, but rather we humans are strafing for survival. Your entire existence depend on money now unfortunately, it's really up to you.

[greyfixation]

Tipping for services has become almost mandatory in this society, I agree, but how much to tip is really up to the person. Dining out and having someone waiting on your feet to serve you I consider is quite the luxury (although some probably wouldn't agree because we're so accustomed to it). I think a person heading out to a restaurant should expect to tip for service, nevertheless someone who's heading to their barber's.

[ziggyx]

I am a generous tipper and a I will tip according to the service I get. But that being said I wish we are a place where tipping is not mandatory, expected, doesn't exist, etc. like japan..

And wasn't there a thread where some couple got arrested for not tipping due to shitty ass service? They were arrested because it was considered stealing or something.. mandatory tips these days...

[skyxx]

In a society that has been influenced by the Europeans, particularly the British.

[Teh Doucher]

i throw my barber an extra $5 every now and then. ive been going to the same guy for over 13 years.

[bcedhk]

i've been to the same hair salon and stylist for the past 5 years, and she is very friendly and we always share cool stories together.. thats why as a gratitude i will tip her 15% at least.

besides, you get your hair cut every month or 2 (depending), so tipping 3-5 bucks to a hair stylist isn't that much. I rather tip my hairstylist than to waiters,, all waiters do is bring you dishes and anyone can do that....

So ya, OP your a cheap fuck

[RollingStone]

Tipping the barber is a Western custom. Saying you're "not used to it" just means you've always been a cheap ass.

[SuperSlowSS]

I usually tip 50-80% for my hairstylist. And no it isn't your regular 10-20 haircut. :)

[hirevtuner]

my haircut costs $7 but I always tip $1 and haircut is every 3-4 weeks
been going to the same place for 5 years

[Leopold Stotch]

well by deduction your hair cut is $14, why don't' you just give him the damn dollar

[seekerbeta]

i pay 14$ for my haircut, and then pay with a 20... and i call it even, the girls at my salon are always friendly and share cute little stores beyond "just the weather" and i went to high school with them

[fishing666]

well by deduction your hair cut is $14, why don't' you just give him the damn dollar

Do you think I could look at my barber in the eyes and say truthfully "Thank you for your service" then leave feeling good about my haircut? What would my barber feel when I feel real good about my haircut leaving his barber?

[quasi]

I would tip and if I didn't I'd feel like dirtbag. The only way I wouldn't tip is if he totally fucked my hair up and pissed me off. Saying all that, I haven't paid for a haircut in 7 years which is good because it's cut weekly. :)

[Inaii]

I don't get a hair cut that often, but when I do I normally tip my stylist $10. She's awesome and I love the work she does. She's been cutting mine and my mom's hair since I was in grade 12, in fact she was the one who did my hair for grad. She's changed salons a few times but we always find the new one since she gave us her cell phone.

OP you're an idiot. Stop making garbage threads please.

[Brianrietta]

I assure you the more you tip your barber (assuming that you go to the same place each time), the better your haircut is going to be. They'll pay a little more attention to the details, will get you in when they're busy and don't really have time for you, etc. It's a small price to pay in the long run. My father is a barber so I didn't pay for a single haircut for 21 years but now that I'm out in Ontario I generally tip 20% or so. Barbers have VERY good memory. It's wise to be in their good books.

[t8v6]

i always tip my barber $2 since she already charges pretty cheap ($10)
u can choose not to tip, but you might end up with half your head shaved the next time you get your hair cut :D.. so u might want to reconsider lol

[Meowjin]

ITT: people from asia who are cheap and using "other parts of the world" excuse.

[fishing666]

i always tip my barber $2 since she already charges pretty cheap ($10)
u can choose not to tip, but you might end up with half your head shaved the next time you get your hair cut :D.. so u might want to reconsider lol

im just pissed that i really don't have the option to not tip without having the fear in the back of mind that somethings gonna go wrong with my next visit. cuz u know. according to many responses im an asshole for being a customer. fuck i should tip the gas station kid 10$ making sure he gives me my 94octane for my non existant porsche

[Meowjin]

im just pissed that i really don't have the option to not tip without having the fear in the back of mind that somethings gonna go wrong with my next visit. cuz u know. according to many responses im an asshole for being a customer. fuck i should tip the gas station kid 10$ making sure he gives me my 94octane for my non existant porsche

:facepalm:

[SMDBICH]

cheap fuck alert!
i pay 12$+ 8$ tip

[hchang]

Do you think I could look at my barber in the eyes and say truthfully "Thank you for your service" then leave feeling good about my haircut? What would my barber feel when I feel real good about my haircut leaving his barber?

If you don't give him/her a tip or have good attitude towards them, do you honestly think that they will care too much about how your hair looks next time?

My advice would be to not piss the people off who handle your food or cut your hair.

My haircuts are 7.99 but I just give $10 and leave everytime.
And everytime she actually spends her time cutting my hair, and takes time to make it look better every time, which is a good extra $2 spend in my opinion, instead of her quickly rushing through mine.

[PiuYi]

where do you guys get your haircuts??? do they include wash/shampoo??

my haircuts are $28 per and i go like once a month!! really cutting into my bank account
plus i have really short hair and a style that doesnt really need skill to cut

(for the record, i make it an even $30 everytime i go)

[bcedhk]

im just pissed that i really don't have the option to not tip without having the fear in the back of mind that somethings gonna go wrong with my next visit. cuz u know. according to many responses im an asshole for being a customer. fuck i should tip the gas station kid 10$ making sure he gives me my 94octane for my non existant porsche

huh? are you like brandon chow's brother?

He did give you an option, he gave you back all the change. He just gave you coins cause 99% of customers usually give tips so he "helped" you by giving you all coins so you can just give a toonie or loonie in tips instead of having to ask the cashier for change for the tips.

Just like restaurants, they give you lots of coins cause majority tip. they dont force you to tip before you leave..

[bcedhk]

where do you guys get your haircuts??? do they include wash/shampoo??

my haircuts are $28 per and i go like once a month!! really cutting into my bank account
plus i have really short hair and a style that doesnt really need skill to cut

(for the record, i make it an even $30 everytime i go)

im guessing you go to japanese/higher end chinese hair salons?

mines 30 bucks too after tips. <15 usually are men barber shops for the typical buzz cut.

[Jayboogz]

Lol I go to cut & sharp on 22nd and nootka my hair grows quite fast so I'm there every 2-3 weeks I like my hair short almost completely shaved off. 10 bucks for a 5 minute hair cut. I used to tip him 2 bucks but now he doesn't take my tip because I've refered a lot of people to him and honestly I go there and leave in 10-15 mins tops
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[hotjoint]

gf is a hairdresser and shaves my head for free every 2 weeks!

[Dinan3]

If you're going to be using the same stylist, they will do a better job if you tip them. In the end you will get what you paid for.

[yuusha]

I only tip if I expect to return. If it's not worth returning for, it's not worth tipping. If It's worth returning, then there's something in the service or product that you find exceptional, and it's worth tipping for.

Then again, I get my hair cut by an apprentice hairdresser who does my hair for free :3

[filth]

im just pissed that i really don't have the option to not tip without having the fear in the back of mind that somethings gonna go wrong with my next visit. cuz u know. according to many responses im an asshole for being a customer. fuck i should tip the gas station kid 10$ making sure he gives me my 94octane for my non existant porsche

Why are you pissed? Imagine you were a barber and no customers tipped you? How would you feel, when everyone else around you thats a barber gets tipped? Leave a fucking dollar and stfu.

Stop complaining and backing up your argument about how you don't tip this person or that person. Tipping at a restaurant, or your barber is normal in Canada's culture, if you don't like it then move back to your country or where ever cheap place you're from!.

[spoon.ek9]

i tipped my previous barber and it made zero difference. on the last haircut i had there, they fucked up bad and i still tipped them the $1 on a $9 haircut.

the debate on how much a haircut should cost is relative to how important it is to you. personally, i find haircuts for men above $20 unrealistic for my needs.

[matrixfwd]

can you guys post up where you cut your hair? There is like gazillion places i don't know where to go. Just look at Victoria drive between 33rd and 41 neighborhood. It's like barbershops galore. I'm looking to change to a different place.

[FI-Z33]

be a man, do the right thing!

don't be so cheap..LOL it'll be funny if your barber/hair stylist is on RS and reading this atm

[TypeRNammer]

can you guys post up where you cut your hair? There is like gazillion places i don't know where to go. Just look at Victoria drive between 33rd and 41 neighborhood. It's like barbershops galore. I'm looking to change to a different place.

Ngoc-Nga on kingsway near victoria?

Lots of eye candy depending on certain days:haha:

[Eff-1]

In North America we tip restaurants, barbers, taxi drivers, and hotel staff. That's just the way it is. There's no need to tip the gas station guy, so why would you even care about that?

If you're from Ladner, then why would you care so much about other countries? You're here. Not there. If it's so important to you, then go move there.

[3seriesBeeM]

I would feel like a cheap ass if I didnt tip. The only way I dont tip is when I got shitty service. You do have the option not to tip, but unless they did a horrible job why wouldnt you tip. Dont be a cheap ass just give him a dollar or two, honestly it is well worth it in the long run. I give my stylist 5$ everytime.

[freakshow]

In North America we tip restaurants, barbers, taxi drivers, and hotel staff. That's just the way it is. There's no need to tip the gas station guy, so why would you even care about that?

If you're from Ladner, then why would you care so much about other countries? You're here. Not there. If it's so important to you, then go move there.
THIS.

edit: OP, once you get older and grow out of your naivety, you'll realize that the world doesn't revolve around you. In NA, it's customary to tip certain services, and usually the worker's pay is reflective of that fact. I hope you don't go to the states too often; they'd hate you over there.

[MR_BIGGS]

I could never find a barber that I liked until my recent barber. Charges 20 bucks I give him 25 everytime. Know what my hair is going to look like every time he cuts it, always happy with the results. A bit pricy, but I wouldn't let anyone else cut my hair.

[Qmx323]

iTip

[BlackV62K2]

I give $5 tip everytime too. Haircut itself is $20.

[Noir]

i always tip my barber $2 since she already charges pretty cheap ($10)
u can choose not to tip, but you might end up with half your head shaved the next time you get your hair cut :D.. so u might want to reconsider lol

The idea of this is silly. It basically implies that the asking price = shitty service; asking price + tip = the good job one was supposed to do to begin with.

I'd rather not tip if it wasn't a societal taboo. If businesses want to increase their asking price for a quality job, then let their original prices reflect it.
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

its a courtesy

$40 dollar hair cut at jap place, and i usually tip $5 dollar. Cant complain about their service, hot towel, hangs ur coat when u arrive and put on ur jacket when you leave etc...

[fishing666]

THIS.

edit: OP, once you get older and grow out of your naivety, you'll realize that the world doesn't revolve around you. In NA, it's customary to tip certain services, and usually the worker's pay is reflective of that fact. I hope you don't go to the states too often; they'd hate you over there.

that's the problem..it doesn't revolve around you. It's the problem that I am hated on for being a customer and paying full price and no haggling. I am not asking for any special service. I just go to the barber to rid myself some hair.

It's like this: I walk into a barber. I have clean shoes. I quietly sit or stand and wait in line for my turn. They ask me to sit down and I do so obediently. I don't question the price of the haircut. Barber will ask what I want to be done with my hair. I just respond "shorter but keep hair on my head" and will be satisfied as long as my hair is shorter. I don't smoke or have any sort of body odour. I get up after my haircut and say my thanks. I pay for the haircut and pocket my change and leave.

I am the perfect customer; no? It's the imaginary mandatory tip that doesn't make sense. I get hated on because I don't tip. It's a backwards system where my barber is my customer. fucked up eh?

[jlo mein]

In North America we tip restaurants, barbers, taxi drivers, and hotel staff. That's just the way it is. There's no need to tip the gas station guy, so why would you even care about that?


I thought you're supposed to tip a gas station attendant when its full service pumps?

[wstce92]

I usually tip 10-20% depending on quality of service to my barber, waiters/waitresses, hotel staff, taxi drivers, car wash attendants, bartenders, etc.
I get the Canadian custom and have no problem tipping since I do believe in it. However, I really don't understand this mentality that it seems a lot of people in this thread/in Vancouver in general have, where you only get/ only should get good service if you tip well. Honestly, if the majority of your job entails customer service, I'd expect that you do your job and serve customers to the best of your ability since you're getting paid to do it; not do a half assed job if a customer doesn't tip or doesn't tip well, cause then you're not really doing your job are you?
And I don't buy the their wages are built to require tips. You don't think people working at McDonalds, or any number of retail stores get paid just as little, work just as hard, put up with just as many crappy customers, yet get no tips?
No problem with tipping, but this "I'm only going to do my job well if you pay me outside of my wages" attitude is utter bullshit

[Dan_Guy]

Think of it this way:

You're doing your job in service and you just do it to par all day, and then someone comes along and gives you a tip, so you smile.

Next week you're at the same job, and the person that tipped you comes in, you give them extra good service because you are thankful for last time, they tip again.

And so on. . . .

[Meowjin]

I usually tip 10-20% depending on quality of service to my barber, waiters/waitresses, hotel staff, taxi drivers, car wash attendants, bartenders, etc.
I get the Canadian custom and have no problem tipping since I do believe in it. However, I really don't understand this mentality that it seems a lot of people in this thread/in Vancouver in general have, where you only get/ only should get good service if you tip well. Honestly, if the majority of your job entails customer service, I'd expect that you do your job and serve customers to the best of your ability since you're getting paid to do it; not do a half assed job if a customer doesn't tip or doesn't tip well, cause then you're not really doing your job are you?
And I don't buy the their wages are built to require tips. You don't think people working at McDonalds, or any number of retail stores get paid just as little, work just as hard, put up with just as many crappy customers, yet get no tips?
No problem with tipping, but this "I'm only going to do my job well if you pay me outside of my wages" attitude is utter bullshit

Go back to china if you don't like it.

[filth]

that's the problem..it doesn't revolve around you. It's the problem that I am hated on for being a customer and paying full price and no haggling. I am not asking for any special service. I just go to the barber to rid myself some hair.

It's like this: I walk into a barber. I have clean shoes. I quietly sit or stand and wait in line for my turn. They ask me to sit down and I do so obediently. I don't question the price of the haircut. Barber will ask what I want to be done with my hair. I just respond "shorter but keep hair on my head" and will be satisfied as long as my hair is shorter. I don't smoke or have any sort of body odour. I get up after my haircut and say my thanks. I pay for the haircut and pocket my change and leave.

I am the perfect customer; no? It's the imaginary mandatory tip that doesn't make sense. I get hated on because I don't tip. It's a backwards system where my barber is my customer. fucked up eh?

next time don't quietly sit down or be polite and see what happens when they cut your hair. Again, this is a normal thing to do at the barber as it is to tip them. You're not doing anything special or unique by sitting down being quiet while they cut your hair. Just to let you know.

[SuperSlowSS]

I usually tip 10-20% depending on quality of service to my barber, waiters/waitresses, hotel staff, taxi drivers, car wash attendants, bartenders, etc.
I get the Canadian custom and have no problem tipping since I do believe in it. However, I really don't understand this mentality that it seems a lot of people in this thread/in Vancouver in general have, where you only get/ only should get good service if you tip well. Honestly, if the majority of your job entails customer service, I'd expect that you do your job and serve customers to the best of your ability since you're getting paid to do it; not do a half assed job if a customer doesn't tip or doesn't tip well, cause then you're not really doing your job are you?
And I don't buy the their wages are built to require tips. You don't think people working at McDonalds, or any number of retail stores get paid just as little, work just as hard, put up with just as many crappy customers, yet get no tips?
No problem with tipping, but this "I'm only going to do my job well if you pay me outside of my wages" attitude is utter bullshit


you tip after service... not before. get it?

[raygunpk]

i tip with canadian tire money. am i doin it right

[dizzystar]

cheap ass muther fucker.

[1exotic]

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[AzNightmare]

I only tip people that cut my hair and at restaurants.
I tip 10% max, rounded up to the closest 50 cents.
I don't think it's mandatory, so be grateful I'm even tipping.
I hate it when people think tipping more is of the norm, and if you get good
service, there should be more tip. They get paid from their boss to serve customers.
The tip is a bonus, not part of their salary. Get that straight.

The only reason I even tip is so we're not short on the bill.
Because my buddies is gonna have to cover my tip if I don't pay.
But the whole system is BS if you ask me.

[ShadowBun]

where you guys go for cuts?

so cheap!
the place i go to (jap) costs ~35.

and i usually go monthly ... lately its been getting a bit much as im unemployed..

[TypeRNammer]

I go to some honger place in Richmond, 10 bucks a cut + 2 dollar tip

[fliptuner]

I've been going to the same place for 15 years. The owner of the place doesn't charge enough to pay my stylist what she deserves. I tip her $5 on a $15 bill.

[falcon]

wow you guys pay so little. I guess all the asian super short haircuts are easy to do. my stylist place charges $30 and I always tip a fiver. But I have never been dis-satisfied with the job, and when you work in a professional environment you can't have a "bad haircut day".

[DC5-S]

I've been going to the same place for 15 years. The owner of the place doesn't charge enough to pay my stylist what she deserves. I tip her $5 on a $15 bill.

where do you go?? i wanna go to a place that does american style haircuts, not asian etc.. i live in coq btw

[scottsman]

I know most of you guys are used to tipping for service since you probably grew up here and it's like 2nd nature to you. To me, it's like throwing away my money and it is no different from let's say tipping a your cable installer, busdriver, teacher, tutor, and even the guy opening the door for you. Am I wrong for not tipping? Where do I draw the line whether to tip or not to tip.

I grew up in a house where my dad would often tip people for such things as cable installing or chimney cleaning, etc. The tip could be in the form of money, beer, soft drink, etc.

Something like that isnt mandatory but in a lot of cases is just nice to do out of the kindness of your heart. Using the example of the cable installer, if he comes to someones house and is shown such warm hospitality who knows, he may reciprocate with extra free channels. Even if nothing comes out of it, you never know, maybe you run into the guy at a bar one day, chances are he would buy you a beer or atleast strike up a conversation.

[fliptuner]

where do you go?? i wanna go to a place that does american style haircuts, not asian etc.. i live in coq btw

Hahaha.

1. I have a standard issue Asian/military cut, no guard on the bottom, faded up the sides and fairly short on the top. It's all about a good fade...

2. Hairstylist is an older Asian lady.

3. She's in Vancouver. I drive out every month to get a cut.

Sorry. LOL

[hchang]

where do you guys get your haircuts??? do they include wash/shampoo??

my haircuts are $28 per and i go like once a month!! really cutting into my bank account
plus i have really short hair and a style that doesnt really need skill to cut

(for the record, i make it an even $30 everytime i go)

I go to the haircut place inside the Empire Supermarket mall square in Richmond.

$7.99 for haircut (I give a $10)
Or $12 to wash and she puts gel in your hair to get you on your way for the day. Which is pretty handy when I have a tight timeframe.

[Qmx323]

its a courtesy

$40 dollar hair cut at jap place, and i usually tip $5 dollar. Cant complain about their service, hot towel, hangs ur coat when u arrive and put on ur jacket when you leave etc...


does that include happy ending

[yuusha]

i tipped my previous barber and it made zero difference. on the last haircut i had there, they fucked up bad and i still tipped them the $1 on a $9 haircut.

the debate on how much a haircut should cost is relative to how important it is to you. personally, i find haircuts for men above $20 unrealistic for my needs.

So a shitty hair cut was worth tipping for?

Wow, and here I thought tips were a reward for good service. Fuck this mandatory tip bull shit. I never tip if I'm unsatisfied as a customer. IT'S A REWARD GIVEN AS AN INCENTIVE FOR SERVICE STAFF TO GIVE YOU GOOD SERVICE.

All you people who tip regardless of quality of service are the reason there are waitresses and hairdressers who feel entitled to tips despite their lousy work ethic and service quality.
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[maxxxboost]

my haircut costs $7 but I always tip $1 and haircut is every 3-4 weeks
been going to the same place for 5 years

LOL x2
but i've been going to this place for like 3 yeara

[nns]

Every time I see an RS thread about hair cuts, I always think about a bunch of asian guys going to some metro salon to get their anime/Korean popstar/Abercrombie & Fitch draft-dodging hair cut.


I can't help but cringe sometimes when I see guys who walk around with hair like that.

[thebluew]

this thread reminds me of this LoL.
YouTube- Reservoir Dogs - Tipping Scene

[thebluew]

I have to chime in here.
It looks like most of us agree that you should tip if the service directly affects you.
ie. food that goes inside your mouth, cutting hair that is on you.

I am fine with tipping as long as it's tip per good service. Otherwise, you would be promoting tipping for bad service.

Now as for what to tip for... think about this.
You order a drink, the worker gets paid $6/hr, and gets you that drink,
you pay $2 and don't tip because society says you don't have to tip. This is Mcds.

You order a drink, the worker makes more than $6/hr, and gets you that drink,
you pay $7 and you tip because society says you have to tip. This is in a club.
This is just F'ed up.

The valet gets your car and you tip.
The person that bags your groceries. Did you every tip?

Your hair stylist, you tip.
Your dentist, do you tip? What if they start messing up your teeth and do shoddy jobs?
Will that change your behavior in tipping your dentist now?

I have been to diners and restaurants in the states that do not tip period. I remember the bill came out to $21 and I gave them $30 and said just give me a $5 back.
When I stepped out the door. Yes. I stepped outside already. The waitress chased after me and said she gave me the wrong change and gave me the correct change back.

I'm not saying tipping is stupid but I believe in tipping per good service.
Now if you start arguing... no wayyyy you MUST tip cuz society says so, even if you receive crap service, then you got some serious issues.

[Windstar]

Being a hairstylist in training, it is logic to tip. If your hairstylist/barber does a service that blows you away, then the value of the service should be greater then what you are expected to pay.

[1337]

RSer's are a bunch of hypocrites. Read the tipping thread in the foods forum and most of them will say that tipping should only be given if the waiter/watiress goes beyond their job duties. So how is this any different?

[EmperorIS]

GRATUITY

Main Entry: gra·tu·ity
Pronunciation: \grə-ˈtü-ə-tē, -ˈtyü-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural gra·tu·ities
Date: $$$$

: something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service; especially : tip

[fliptuner]

Saying please and thank you.... as well as failing you is also voluntary.

[raygunpk]

owned

[EmperorIS]

Saying please and thank you.... as well as failing you is also voluntary.

You are mixing up courtesy and gratitude

[MG1]

Some of you guys are pretty high maintenance.:p

[fliptuner]

You're mixing up the point of this thread.

Of course tipping is voluntary, otherwise, the OP's barber would have called the police on him.

[Meowjin]

I have to chime in here.
It looks like most of us agree that you should tip if the service directly affects you.
ie. food that goes inside your mouth, cutting hair that is on you.

I am fine with tipping as long as it's tip per good service. Otherwise, you would be promoting tipping for bad service.

Now as for what to tip for... think about this.
You order a drink, the worker gets paid $6/hr, and gets you that drink,
you pay $2 and don't tip because society says you don't have to tip. This is Mcds.

You order a drink, the worker makes more than $6/hr, and gets you that drink,
you pay $7 and you tip because society says you have to tip. This is in a club.
This is just F'ed up.

The valet gets your car and you tip.
The person that bags your groceries. Did you every tip?

Your hair stylist, you tip.
Your dentist, do you tip? What if they start messing up your teeth and do shoddy jobs?
Will that change your behavior in tipping your dentist now?

I have been to diners and restaurants in the states that do not tip period. I remember the bill came out to $21 and I gave them $30 and said just give me a $5 back.
When I stepped out the door. Yes. I stepped outside already. The waitress chased after me and said she gave me the wrong change and gave me the correct change back.

I'm not saying tipping is stupid but I believe in tipping per good service.
Now if you start arguing... no wayyyy you MUST tip cuz society says so, even if you receive crap service, then you got some serious issues.



if your going to lie, actually name a country that doesn't accept tips.

[DasHooch]

What if the barber is the owner and sets his own prices?

Here's a bad joke about service people being lucky, skip to 6:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=XD3pgC4Q9yI&feature=related

[m4k4v4li]

go to any restaurant... REGARDLESS if the service is good or bad.. why is it that all the servers will expect equally as much tips? clearly tips are not based on the quality of service anymore but an expected standard.

and why is it always the servers that get the most upset about their tips? how come the bussers that run around all night while the servers are chatting it up or the dish washers never complain? despite only getting 1-2% of their sales?

bathroom attendants: i understand your job is shitty. but im not going to give u $5 to hand me a paper towel. maybe if i want a piece of gum or spray of cologne sure. cough* fabric. i can't stand that guy. I don't even go to pee anymore because everytime i wash my hands he'll point to his tip jar and ask me to hook it up... and i fucking work there... tons of my friends complain about him too... thats wrong I don't think people should feel pressured to tip like that when they don't feel the need to

slip a 5 to the janitor who cleans up your shit next time u see him. the mcdicks graveyard shift worker. while you're at it tip everyone that does a service for u... if you don't you're clearly a cheapo...

no1 is arguing that tips r bs and no1 should tip... but if the service was bad... plz don't give me shit or attitude if i didnt tip the expected amount

all im saying is that there are clearly flaws in the tipping system and many of you who don't acknowledge that are hypocrits and hold double standards. and for the record i always tip well regardless of the quality of service.. if i cut my hair at a barber shop that trims it in 5 minutes.. I will tip 20% if I cut my hair at a stylist for $40 who gives me a back massage, hair wash while massaging my dome, paying attention to detail and flirt with me.. I will tip 20%. Ironic

[m4k4v4li]

if your going to lie, actually name a country that doesn't accept tips.

Finaland, New Zealand, Spain, Korea, Japan, China. Many in the service industry will refuse your tips and are often suprised when you tip... some even offended. that being said... they DO accept tips.. its just not EXPECTED and its not a widely practiced custom

Im sure I missed many more countries... where the tipping custom is specific to different jobs. for instance in the UK bartenders don't expect tips.. and many other jobs in the service industry have adjusted wages or service fees included.

[scottsman]

Finaland, New Zealand, Spain, Korea, Japan, China. Many in the service industry will refuse your tips and are often suprised when you tip... some even offended. that being said... they DO accept tips.. its just not EXPECTED and its not a widely practiced custom

Im sure I missed many more countries... where the tipping custom is specific to different jobs. for instance in the UK bartenders don't expect tips.. and many other jobs in the service industry have adjusted wages or service fees included.

Just because you don't need to tip doesn't mean you shouldn't.

and 99% of the time if you were to tip in a country in which tipping is considered offensive I am sure that the person receiving the tip would acknowledge you are a foreigner and not be offended.

But then it comes back to quality. You shouldn't have to tip if the service/food, etc. is shit regardless of the country.

[hotjoint]

this is how I see it, tips should be earned not just given

[illicitstylz]

Well when you walk into a shop/hair salon/restaurant, you expect beyond good service regardless. As an employee, you are obligated/ asked to provide it.

The tip is considered a bonus, it is up to the discretion of the customer.
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[Meowjin]

go to any restaurant... REGARDLESS if the service is good or bad.. why is it that all the servers will expect equally as much tips? clearly tips are not based on the quality of service anymore but an expected standard.

and why is it always the servers that get the most upset about their tips? how come the bussers that run around all night while the servers are chatting it up or the dish washers never complain? despite only getting 1-2% of their sales?

bathroom attendants: i understand your job is shitty. but im not going to give u $5 to hand me a paper towel. maybe if i want a piece of gum or spray of cologne sure. cough* fabric. i can't stand that guy. I don't even go to pee anymore because everytime i wash my hands he'll point to his tip jar and ask me to hook it up... and i fucking work there... tons of my friends complain about him too... thats wrong I don't think people should feel pressured to tip like that when they don't feel the need to

slip a 5 to the janitor who cleans up your shit next time u see him. the mcdicks graveyard shift worker. while you're at it tip everyone that does a service for u... if you don't you're clearly a cheapo...

no1 is arguing that tips r bs and no1 should tip... but if the service was bad... plz don't give me shit or attitude if i didnt tip the expected amount

all im saying is that there are clearly flaws in the tipping system and many of you who don't acknowledge that are hypocrits and hold double standards. and for the record i always tip well regardless of the quality of service.. if i cut my hair at a barber shop that trims it in 5 minutes.. I will tip 20% if I cut my hair at a stylist for $40 who gives me a back massage, hair wash while massaging my dome, paying attention to detail and flirt with me.. I will tip 20%. Ironic

oddly enough the best way to make money on that job is just to sit on your phone and ignore people.

[Meowjin]

this is how I see it, tips should be earned not just given

agreed. But if your going to the same barber and not tipping him at least buy him a christmas gift or something.

[Greenstoner]

my friend did a calculation for shit and giggles...
6 months, he tipped about 320 bucks .. lol

[twitchyzero]

I never tip the cab drivers...their rates are already expensive as it is. If you tip cab drivers, you better be tipping bus drivers.

I don't follow the theory that if one's dealing iwth your food/hair, a tip is pretty much mandatory.

If that's the case, you should be tipping 10% on-top of your $500 bill the next time you see your dentist.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

this is how I see it, tips should be earned not just given

definitely applies to chinese restaurant, where most of the time they give you a shit face like you owe them.

[m4k4v4li]

definitely applies to chinese restaurant, where most of the time they give you a shit face like you owe them.

lol are you kidding? the servers at chinese restaurants never expect good tips... for many reasons