[ImportPsycho]

heads up for sellers
young native looking kids just gave me fake $100s
hard to tell unless you compare it side by side with real bill
it has no grooves and i didn't bother to check as I was in a hurry

buyer will NOT try to low ball you and try to make a quick sale through emails
he will say he just sold his cell phone so he cannot call you or call him

lesson learned....

[twitchyzero]

sorry to hear
for 50's and 100's i try to make sure it's legal tender, but sometimes it's all wrinkled up or you're meeting up at night so it's hard to tell.

hope karma will get his ass.

[Manic!]

1. use your nails to check for ridges on the Prime Minister.
2. Look for a hologram on both sides.

Those are the 2 of the easiest ways to check.

Sorry for your loss.

[ImportPsycho]

i am carefull with 50's since fake 50s are dime a dozen but never imagined i would run into 100s...

[azzurro32]

Make a few more different ads for same item and hope he contacts you.
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[bcrdukes]

Take whatever contact information you have and hand it over to the police.

[HonestTea]

Casino? :)

[threezero]

Casino? :)

i hope OP likes getting arrested and body slam to the ground.

[KingCrimson]

kids??
about how old were they?

[invader]

As a seller, request only $20 bills.

[DuhDang]

As a seller, request only $20 bills.

If they have fake 50 and 100 they probably have fake 20's
Just make sure to check your bills when selling stuff I always do

[Glaedr]

1. use your nails to check for ridges on the Prime Minister.
2. Look for a hologram on both sides.

Those are the 2 of the easiest ways to check.

Sorry for your loss.

Those are good tips, here are some more:

3. You can also check for the water mark, hold up to a light/sun and see if you can see an image of the Prime Minister represented on the Bill

4. Clarity, if you CANT see the fine details, ie the circles in the pupil, then its fake.

5. Accidentally spill water on the bills, haha, legal bills are practically water resistant/proof, fake ones the ink will run

Sorry to hear, hope they get whats coming to em!!

[Shun Izaki]

the biggest thing with fake hundreds is the hologram isn't colorful, it's actually silver/chrome/black only.

But if you're in a hurry that's the best bet to check.

[hotong]

out of curiosity what did you sell him?

[- kT]

As a seller, request only $20 bills.

this

i always do this, even when it means i have to meet them at the bank and they have to get change
most people are cool with it, cause most buyers (especially on RS, CL, etc) are also sellers

if they don't agree, just take your sale someplace else
better to have to wait a few more weeks to sell something then to give it away for free

and like somebody said above, take whatever contact info you have and give it to the police
not too sure what good it'll do though, since the info they gave you was probably fake/friends phone or something, as i'm sure they didn't accidentally give you fakes

[Harvey Specter]

Damn, that sucks but I would contact the police if you haven't already and the water test is the best because the ink will run on every fake bill.

[Farfetched]

have you ever tried buying something for $2000 in 20s? it's a pain in the ass.

[SumAznGuy]

A black light will catch most of the fake bills too. It's very hard for criminals to get their hands on paper that doesn't shine under a black light.

[Shun Izaki]

Damn, that sucks but I would contact the police if you haven't already and the water test is the best because the ink will run on every fake bill.

This is why the kids usually spray that stuff with shoe guard shit from athlete's world, i saw a kid go into AW andbuy like 20 cans... i know that's not to protect his 50 pairs of nike shocks

[InvisibleSoul]

That sucks...

I've done dozens of sales on Craigslist in the past few months, but they've all been low value, so I've never had to be on alert for fake bills...

[invader]

have you ever tried buying something for $2000 in 20s? it's a pain in the ass.

Certified cheque.

[bcrdukes]

My general rule of thumb to be safe from losers on Craigslist:

No phone number = No deal. This includes blocked numbers.

[CP.AR]

I've sold quite a few high value items on CL involving 100s and 50s, but I 've never run into this problem. Nevertheless, I check everytime before handing my stuff over (I tell buyer ahead of time over e-mail that I will be doing a quick check on the bills when I get them).

Here are some of the quick checks I go over:
- check for the raised studs on the corners
- check hologram and see if it matches the bill value (I remember on the news a while back that criminals were splicing 5 dollar holograms onto fake 50s)
- Run fingers through bill for texture
- hold random bills up to lit cellphone screen/flashlight for watermark

hope it helps! CL isn't as infested with retards anymore, so I'm surprised you caught the bad crop

[MelonBoy]

my rule of thumb is meet at the guys house.. anything goes down I know where he lives..

[TOS'd]

Does the whole rubbing bill on piece of paper, for the $50 dunno if it works on the $100, work? Like when you rub a $50, the red goes onto the paper. Or are fake ones able to do that.

[Manic!]

A black light will catch most of the fake bills too. It's very hard for criminals to get their hands on paper that doesn't shine under a black light.

Sun tan lotion. Criminals put that in the paper so it does not shine under black light.

Just check for ridges because no printer can print that.

[Manic!]

Does the whole rubbing bill on piece of paper, for the $50 dunno if it works on the $100, work? Like when you rub a $50, the red goes onto the paper. Or are fake ones able to do that.

Does not work.

[JSALES]

damn that sucks.

did these young looking natives look like the natives at broadway by any chance?

[Shun Izaki]

My general rule of thumb to be safe from losers on Craigslist:

No phone number = No deal. This includes blocked numbers.

this is what prepaid/stolen sim's are for...

I've sold quite a few high value items on CL involving 100s and 50s, but I 've never run into this problem. Nevertheless, I check everytime before handing my stuff over (I tell buyer ahead of time over e-mail that I will be doing a quick check on the bills when I get them).

Here are some of the quick checks I go over:
- check for the raised studs on the corners
- check hologram and see if it matches the bill value (I remember on the news a while back that criminals were splicing 5 dollar holograms onto fake 50s)
- Run fingers through bill for texture
- hold random bills up to lit cellphone screen/flashlight for watermark

hope it helps! CL isn't as infested with retards anymore, so I'm surprised you caught the bad crop

the raised studs was a funny one, saw a guy using spherical pins in the pattern that he wanted, so he could create the raised studs, and they'd last for the day or so...

if you to dealextreme, you can get a pocket sizd UV light (albeit 3UV LED's) but still works to see the 50/100 flourenscent hologram

my rule of thumb is meet at the guys house.. anything goes down I know where he lives..

fake house? XD

Does the whole rubbing bill on piece of paper, for the $50 dunno if it works on the $100, work? Like when you rub a $50, the red goes onto the paper. Or are fake ones able to do that.

it worked for the previous generation and the one before it... these new ones depending if they're first prints, or the ones after (like that whole fiasco about the $5 having different borders etc) will or will not

Does not work.

depends on the print, check my quote above.




Looking back, this makes me seem like a criminal, i guess this is what i get for being a paranoid schizo after getting ripped off one time

[MWR34]

A black light will catch most of the fake bills too. It's very hard for criminals to get their hands on paper that doesn't shine under a black light.

i'd bet 90% of fake currency doesnt shine.

[jACEDesignsLtd]

When I used to work at a bank, I caught some pretty good fakes. Like the tips mentioned above already, I would add: let your instinct guide you. When you hold a fake bill, something subconsciously doesn't "feel" right. The fake bill feels very soft and unusual. A real bill feels crisp, textured with a distinct type of paper. Mind you, there are times when a bill looks fake but is actually real (b/c the person left the bill in their jeans and did the laundry). But if you are questioning it in your mind, ditch it. You can refuse to accept the bill even to a cashier. Just say you want another bill to cashier. They may look at you funny, but so what. A lot of times cashiers themselves can't tell that it's a fake. Or perhaps they are trying to dish off the fake to you so you incur the loss.

One other thing at the bank. If you bring a fake bill and the bank catches it, they have to seize it and pull it out of circulation. A lot of customers get choked when I did that, but I think the RCMP orders the bank to do that or sth. If tellers don't catch the fake when taking in the money, but discover it later on... the bank takes the hit. So there are some bank customers that play dumb and DO try to dish it back to the bank and some customers who genuinely didn't know that it was a fake. Either way if its discovered, you lose the bill. I think the most you can do to get back at the counterfeit system is take the fake to the police for investigation. They will write you a receipt, but pretty much that money is lost to you. I left the bank a LONG time ago, so things might have changed. I'm sure there are other rs members that work in a bank that can give you guys more updated info

p.s. the lower denominations are usually the fakes $5, $10, $20s b/c you don't question it. We use them so often. With $50 and $100 bills they are rare, so people tend to scrutinize it before taking it in.

[SumAznGuy]

i'd bet 90% of fake currency doesnt shine.

Let's see some proof. My only rebutal to it is that banks and businesses still use black light to check for fake 50's and 100's.

Quick google search.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/index.html

From the horse's mouth. UV light will work.

[unit]

as a general rule dont trust young natives
lol

[Zerius]

You want a UV light that shines under 400nm and under 390nm.
A 360-380nm light would work the best, since it makes the security print in the paper (which says Bank Of Canada 50) a 390nm light will also do this, but it will not be as bright and more of the light is visible to your naked eye and therefore the contrast will not be as great.

These LED's can be found on ebay or other webstores online, and you can easily mod one of the DX lights to take a 5mm UV LED.

[twitchyzero]

The fake bill feels very soft and unusual. A real bill feels crisp, textured with a distinct type of paper. Mind you, there are times when a bill looks fake but is actually real (b/c the person left the bill in their jeans and did the laundry)

yeah some old bills just feel really soft and wrinkled.

[Vansterdam]

shouldof bought that keychain from the nightmarket.. its like a UV LIGHT + laser + led light ... FTW

[CP.AR]

just run your fingers over the numbers (the 20 or the 5 or 10 or w/e) or the "BANK OF CANADA" words if you are in a hurry. I imagine that to be very hard to replicate in a counterfeit bill.

[murd0c]

a lot of stores have things like this next to the cash register to help the teller/people who work there. It works on all new and older bills of course

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4789/currencycanada.gif (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/currencycanada.gif/)

[dizzystar]

you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)




Fuck natives.

[racerman88]

always meet up with the buyer near a business where you can ask them to check the bills first before you complete the transaction

[murd0c]

you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)




Fuck natives.

even tho I don't agree with what you are saying right now. I can't fucken stand Jordan Tootoo. FUCK I just want Rypien to dummy him right now!!!

[hirevtuner]

bring a blacklight to every deal and also meet at a public place with security cameras
may not prevent it but at least you have something to go by

[icemiko]

Post up his email just incase he's stupid and uses the same email to try to scam someone else.

[Meowjin]

i use a counterfit pen (if the ink turns dark it's fake)

it was funny when some guy tried to buy my macbook in all fake although real looking 100's. The look on his face was priceless though.

[twitchyzero]

^ where do you buy that? how accurate is it

[CRS]

i use a counterfit pen (if the ink turns dark it's fake)

it was funny when some guy tried to buy my macbook in all fake although real looking 100's. The look on his face was priceless though.

That is an interesting idea!

More info on this pen.

[Manic!]

Let's see some proof. My only rebutal to it is that banks and businesses still use black light to check for fake 50's and 100's.

Quick google search.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/index.html

From the horse's mouth. UV light will work.

I have taken the back of Canada seminar on counterfeit bills and some people are now using suntan lotion on bills to pass the black light test. He had a black lite in our store but have takin it out and check bills manually.

[Meowjin]

^ where do you buy that? how accurate is it

i saw it used at the casino when i gave them american. When I went to work at the nightclub, it was sitting on the desk and my manager gave it to me. works well. just google counterfit pen.

[CP.AR]

you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)




Fuck natives.

you drunk?
Sure some statistics show that they commit more crimes but...

are they not human beings? do they not deserve respect as well as anyone else?

[canadiana]

I don't know if this was mentioned before. But new bills have dots for the blind (or at least that's what I heard). The dots are spaced differently depending on the value of the bill.

[hchang]

One other thing at the bank. If you bring a fake bill and the bank catches it, they have to seize it and pull it out of circulation. A lot of customers get choked when I did that, but I think the RCMP orders the bank to do that or sth. If tellers don't catch the fake when taking in the money, but discover it later on... the bank takes the hit. So there are some bank customers that play dumb and DO try to dish it back to the bank and some customers who genuinely didn't know that it was a fake. Either way if its discovered, you lose the bill. I think the most you can do to get back at the counterfeit system is take the fake to the police for investigation. They will write you a receipt, but pretty much that money is lost to you. I left the bank a LONG time ago, so things might have changed. I'm sure there are other rs members that work in a bank that can give you guys more updated info

p.s. the lower denominations are usually the fakes $5, $10, $20s b/c you don't question it. We use them so often. With $50 and $100 bills they are rare, so people tend to scrutinize it before taking it in.

Now their policy is to take any bills that they find questionable out of circulation, and the bank writes you a receipt.

The Bank then sends the money to the RCMP or the Bank of Canada, who will review the bill to see if it is real or not, then return it back to the person if it is real... yeah i know, a pain in the ass. If it isn't real, if I remember correctly, they don't issue it back to you.

Sucks that you got scammed man, as somebody mentioned above, take your time looking at the bills, and request that only $20s be used. Better to wait a few extra weeks than to give something away for free. Counterfeits generally cost too much and is not so much worth the time to make any fake bills with a demoniator lower than $50, but maybe now with a lot of places not accepting $50s and $100s they will start making $20s.

To Check the new bills, run your finger over the paper, normally it feels really crisp. If held up to a light, a face watermark appears, and the number of the bill denominator will match up. (20, 50, 100) Check the number, it is supposed to be sewn in. And on real Bills, the words "Bank of Canada" are legible till the very last letter. Counterfeit ones usually smudge somewhere near the back. If held up to a blacklight, a "BANK OF CANADA" logo will glow in the middle of the bill.

Hope this helps.

[CP.AR]

here's something I found on the counterfeit pens... not really related to us, but a good 5 minute watch nevertheless

YouTube- The Real Hustle - Counterfeit Pen Scam

[hchang]

^Everytime I go to the states, I withdraw cash to go, and usually the cash I get from the bank are new. So everytime I buy something with a 50 or 100 they draw a big ass line through the middle of the bill to check for authenticity. Which makes me wonder... does the next store to check it still draw another line? or just trust the line thats already drawn, since its still in circulation LOL.

[Manic!]

I don't know if this was mentioned before. But new bills have dots for the blind (or at least that's what I heard). The dots are spaced differently depending on the value of the bill.

It's called braille. Blind people use it to read books.

[Harvey Specter]

I remember my friend getting 2 fake $20's from one of those ATM machines you find at clubs or at some smaller gas stations.

[maxxxboost]

Scratching the shoulders never fails me

If you hold it on it's side and look at the shoulder, you should beable to see the ink ontop of the paper, not INTO the paper.

But that is just my way.
I've got many fake bills at work and it all comes down to the scratch test for me.

[Greenstoner]

thanks for the heads up

[Shun Izaki]

i never trust any ATM except for the bank ones...

buddy went to an ATM at a cornerstore, spat out like 10-20 fake $20's all in a row.

thing is, the cashier had access to the machine, big setup...

contacted the place's owner, and they fired pretty much the whole staff, because we went again, and it was all new people...

[MWR34]

Let's see some proof. My only rebutal to it is that banks and businesses still use black light to check for fake 50's and 100's.

Quick google search.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/index.html

From the horse's mouth. UV light will work.

rice paper and cotton paper is readily available in arts and craft stores and also stationary stores. and guess what... they dont shine.
google is your friend

[GodZilla]

The RCMP along with the U.S. Secret Service have busted a Surrey counterfeiting ring and seized fake U.S. bills totalling $75,000.

[Kamui712]

Seems like whoever is doing it is still at it:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/mob/1647816465.html

This guy called me to buy a Blackberry and he gave me counterfeit 100s. They were two young brown guys driving a mazda 3. BE AWARE. If anyone catchs these fools, let me know. 6047102373

[TheKingdom2000]

anytime you deal with someone who says they don't have a cell phone you know it's sketchy.. i learned this when i was sixteen and i bought a phone off this guy...

phone worked but it was a piece of shit.. lesson learned i guess.
but don't all the new notes have the holograms and shit?

[HonestTea]

Same guys?

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/mob/1661869199.html

[AzNightmare]

Gonna play "Devil's Advocate".
If you had never took the time to take a closer look, and say you were completely oblivious to the fake bill.
And then spent it later (if it fooled you, possible it could fool others. Not every cashier scans bills. Let's say it was a 20, not a 100.).

Then what? No problem? Is this when we say "Ignorance is Bliss" ?

[Meowjin]

thats not devils advocate thats just stupid.

[raygunpk]

i love devil's advocate

http://www.notvandnobeermakehomersomethingsomething.com/simpsons/devils_advocate.png

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

that girl in the clip is hot

[AzNightmare]

thats not devils advocate thats just stupid.

Explain... How's it stupid besides the fact you got rid of a counterfeit bill (without even knowing you had one.)

How does police deal with this though.
What if a person really was a victim and didn't know and ended up spending the money?
If someone got tricked in the first place by the initial touch/sight of the bill, good chances are he/she might not even notice later on.
Not everyone goes back home and examines their bills after it's in their wallet.

[unit]

this happened to my friend last week.
he sold black eyed peas tickets, and the guy paid with three 100 bills.
he didnt check, and got fake bills.

not sure if it was the same scammer but still.

[Hondaracer]

you drunk?
Sure some statistics show that they commit more crimes but...

are they not human beings? do they not deserve respect as well as anyone else?

I dunno I'm somewhat on his side as well, every Indian I've ever known has either tried to fuck over myself or someone I know, they are basically all losers who will scam even "friends" to get slightly ahead and the most successfull one I was ever aquainted to was pretty much the defintion of the word stereotype, nicknamed cheif, a full blown alcholic

I've got no time for em as well
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[El Bastardo]

you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)




Fuck natives.



Ladies and gentlemen, Vancouver Island is in the house. And look, they brought their white hoods and cloaks.

[lilkulit]

Recently happened to a co-worker, didn't happened through CL, but at department store. She got fooled with a total of $900 fake 100s and 20s. Wonder if they're the same group of people.

[InvisibleSoul]

this happened to my friend last week.
he sold black eyed peas tickets, and the guy paid with three 100 bills.
he didnt check, and got fake bills.

not sure if it was the same scammer but still.
Can't he just invalidate those tickets and get it re-issued?

[HonestTea]

Quick question. Planning on selling a big ticket item, I requested the seller to meet at the bank. Can I just ask the teller to verify if the bills are legit?

And if she says everything is legit and I deposit the money in the bank, is it safe to hand over the item to the person or what would be the best way or step in making sure I don't get fake bills?

[Razor Ramon HG]

If the bank verifies that the bills are legit, then they are legit.

Hand over the item, then deposit the money. It would seem weird to deposit the money first then hand over the item IMO.

And if they're in a bank, I highly doubt they're going to pull anything funny.

EDIT: But yeah, this is a very safe method of transaction.

[MindBomber]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you know, if I ever message one of you about something you have listed in buy and sell, you can't trust me. Being a young native person, I will do my very best to fuck you over and pass along counterfeit currency to fund my alcohol addiction.

Cheers,
A drunken native.

as a general rule dont trust young natives
lol

you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)

Fuck natives.

I dunno I'm somewhat on his side as well, every Indian I've ever known has either tried to fuck over myself or someone I know, they are basically all losers who will scam even "friends" to get slightly ahead and the most successfull one I was ever aquainted to was pretty much the defintion of the word stereotype, nicknamed cheif, a full blown alcholic

I've got no time for em as well
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[geeknerd]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you know, if I ever message one of you about something you have listed in buy and sell, you can't trust. Being a young native person, I will do my very best to fuck you over and pass along counterfeit currency to fund my alcohol addiction.

Cheers,
A drunken native.

One of the rare occasions while on the internet where I can't tell if being serious or sarcastic.

Since native-->drunk-->super drunk-->tell secrets-->that post.

[MindBomber]

One of the rare occasions while on the internet where I can't tell if being serious or sarcastic.

Since native-->drunk-->super drunk-->tell secrets-->that post.

Not serious; I was just responding to Hondaracer, dizzystar and unit's ridiculous racist statements with something equally absurd.

I am native, but I'm not an alcoholic and would never take advantage of another person.

[twitchyzero]

i just did 4 CL transactions this past week...i actually never check my bills though even though my transactions are usually <100 and no larger than 20 bills

[CRS]

i just did 4 CL transactions this past week...i actually never check my bills though even though my transactions are usually <100 and no larger than 20 bills

Maybe I'm on crack but having felt the texture of legit vs. fake bill, it should be pretty obvious when someone is handing you fakes instead of legit bills.

There are seldom any high quality fakes and most use pretty crappy/poor quality paper. You should be able to instantly tell that it isn't real.

[Psykopathik]

a good UV light will show numbers on the bills. EG: a $20 bill has "20" printed all over it and will shine brightly in different colors under a black light.

Crappy keychain ones don't work.

http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/100976/large/C0036750-Canadian_banknote_in_UV_light-SPL.jpg

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/10738/10738,1136767872,1/stock-photo--and-bills-canadian-currency-in-uv-light-868678.jpg

when you reply to people buying from you, make sure just to say,

"I will be bringing a UV light to inspect the bills for both our protection. Sorry for the inconvenience"

[spideyv2]

wow

there are a lot of fucking idiots ITT

brb, generalizing a race

all natives are drunking idiots
all asians cant drive
all brown people are heatscores
all white people are red necks
all black people rob people and eat fried chicken
all revsceners are racist idiots

[benwang]

wow

there are a lot of fucking idiots ITT

brb, generalizing a race

all natives are drunking idiots
all asians cant drive
all brown people are heatscores
all white people are red necks
all black people rob people and eat fried chicken
all revsceners are racist idiots

which ones would describe you ?

[Culverin]

You have to admit.

Native population has a propensity towards drinking. I'm sure the statistics will back me up on this.
And as for asian people really can't drive...

I'm asian as well as the vast majority of my friends. We all know that our people can't drive. Some of our number included, it's not hateful. It's just true.

[Jgresch]

Don't forget all white people live in maple ridge and drive trucks

[b0unce. [?]]

Don't forget all white people live in maple ridge and drive trucks

we also can't forget all brown people live in surrey and drive cabs

[Drow]

Sorry to sound racist. But from my point of view, native stereotypes tend to represent a larger percentage, as compared to other stereotypes and their respective races. Up to this day i have not seen natives that got their shit going normally, most / all of them i see are collecting welfare cheques, look ghetto, and are under the influence of something. That may not mean they'd try to rip u off, but from my experiences, thats how they are.

I applaud mindbomber for sticking up for his race and being an accomplished native
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[PornMaster]

Regardless of race, age, sex.
I always quick check bills even if its a 5 or a 20.

I spread them out and run my fingernail down the ridges.

I ve spotted a few fake 20's

1 second of work saves hours of headache

[fliptuner]

wow

there are a lot of fucking idiots ITT

brb, generalizing a race

all natives are drunking idiots
all asians cant drive
all brown people are heatscores
all white people are red necks
all black people rob people and eat fried chicken
all revsceners are racist idiots

Each race also has positives though

white friends will always buy you a beer and lend their truck when you have to move shit
asian friends will get you cheap knockoffs and you'll never go hungry at their house
black friends will keep white guys away yet attract DWG's
brown friends will always bring the Crown and JD
native friends will go to the gas station with you and get cheap gas and cigs

[MindBomber]

You have to admit.

Native population has a propensity towards drinking. I'm sure the statistics will back me up on this.
And as for asian people really can't drive...

I'm asian as well as the vast majority of my friends. We all know that our people can't drive. Some of our number included, it's not hateful. It's just true.

Firstly, Asian people are not stereotyped and discriminated against by racist bigots like Hondaracer, based on the assumption that they are poor drivers, so the comparison is in no way equal. Asian people can't drive seems much more like harmless teasing, but I can't comment beyond that. I will say, I have a few Asian friends and wouldn't consider any of them bad drivers.

Statistically, natives and indigenous people from around the world have significantly higher rates of addiction than people who descend from cultures who have traditionally consumed alcohol. The bodies of native people simply are not equipped to handle alcohol, because we've been consuming it as a people for a shorter period of time than European cultures, for example. In the case of Canadian native people, you also need to consider that many elders turned to alcohol and drugs as a direct result of their experiences in residential schools. It's convention that people subject to abuse as children are significantly more likely to become addicts in the future, and you cannot blame an adult for what they've experienced as a child. Breaking the cycle of addiction, regardless of race, often takes generations. Band councils are actively involved with helping to break that cycle, which is why many reservations are dry. Statistically, natives have higher rates of addiction, but that's as a result of circumstances beyond our control and we need time to heal as a people.

That said, the statistical percentage of native alcoholics is still not 100%, like the racist bigot dizzystar seems to believe. I have many native friends, more than ten, and of them one is a hopeless drunk and one struggles with alcohol but leads a very productive life and has a good career.


Sorry to sound racist. But from my point of view, native stereotypes tend to represent a larger percentage, as compared to other stereotypes and their respective races. Up to this day i have not seen natives that got their shit going normally, most / all of them i see are collecting welfare cheques, look ghetto, and are under the influence of something. That may not mean they'd try to rip u off, but from my experiences, thats how they are.

I applaud mindbomber for sticking up for his race and being an accomplished native
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I think that's a compliment..

In my experience, if you have a racist perception of a people then you are more likely to notice the flaws than the positives. If I consciously decided that members of the Indo-Canadian community are all dirty berry pickers who moonlight as cab drivers and wear turbans, I probably would be more attuned to noticing the those stereotypes. Try not focusing on the challenges my people struggle with and you'll probably not notice them as frequently, giving you a more accurate perception.

[HollyZ32]

I just sold my black berry playbook on CL for 380 bucks. I met up with the young guy, he was about 22 years old if that, tall white guy, dressed nice. He gave me one $100 bill two $50's and the rest in $20's. I was able to go to the back finally two days after the transaction, I get there, every single one of the bills are counterfit bills. I call the VPD non emergancy line, the lady didnt even bother to write a report for me, she said there wasnt a point in writting one because if they did catch the guy they could not prove that he know they where all fake, even though I had all the texts we shared and still have his phone number.

[HonestTea]

^ FUCK.. That sucks ass :(
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[Culverin]

Firstly, Asian people are not stereotyped and discriminated against by racist bigots like Hondaracer, based on the assumption that they are poor drivers, so the comparison is in no way equal. Asian people can't drive seems much more like harmless teasing, but I can't comment beyond that. I will say, I have a few Asian friends and wouldn't consider any of them bad drivers.

That's true...

Also, asians aren't so much discriminated against here in the lower mainland, there are just too many of us that the common culture has changed.

White people aren't handed forks in restaurants anymore are they?
It's kind of a given that they know how to use chopsticks and if not, then there is something wrong with the picture.
I know this is a very subtle point, but I think it helps to illustrate how much things have changed in the past 20 years.

The attitude towards asians change once you leave the lower mainland. Not to say that the native population hasn't be unfairly treated. I'm not trying to gloss over that in any way shape or form. But I think the biggotry against asians is a bit more irrational. More of a fear of the different. I have a hard time coming up with a reason to hate on the asians. Whereas the natives across Canada and America have been granted lots of exemptions for wildlife, game, casinos and such. It's not fair, but at least some might look at it and say, it's unjust. Or rather, the biggotry cancels out with these perks.

[Happy]

I just sold my black berry playbook on CL for 380 bucks. I met up with the young guy, he was about 22 years old if that, tall white guy, dressed nice. He gave me one $100 bill two $50's and the rest in $20's. I was able to go to the back finally two days after the transaction, I get there, every single one of the bills are counterfit bills. I call the VPD non emergancy line, the lady didnt even bother to write a report for me, she said there wasnt a point in writting one because if they did catch the guy they could not prove that he know they where all fake, even though I had all the texts we shared and still have his phone number.

Haha you must be retarded to get scammed with fake bills on CRAIGSLIST
Call the kid back and beat the fuck out of him if you can't get the money back
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[1exotic]

So much I can say but it would be ban worthy.

will just leave this thread asap.

[MindBomber]

That's true...

Also, asians aren't so much discriminated against here in the lower mainland, there are just too many of us that the common culture has changed.

White people aren't handed forks in restaurants anymore are they?
It's kind of a given that they know how to use chopsticks and if not, then there is something wrong with the picture.
I know this is a very subtle point, but I think it helps to illustrate how much things have changed in the past 20 years.

The attitude towards asians change once you leave the lower mainland. Not to say that the native population hasn't be unfairly treated. I'm not trying to gloss over that in any way shape or form. But I think the biggotry against asians is a bit more irrational. More of a fear of the different. I have a hard time coming up with a reason to hate on the asians. Whereas the natives across Canada and America have been granted lots of exemptions for wildlife, game, casinos and such. It's not fair, but at least some might look at it and say, it's unjust. Or rather, the biggotry cancels out with these perks.

I understand your perspective on the issue, partly because outside the lower mainland racism against natives becomes much worse as well. Not to look down on the interior, but people living in those regions have a very different way of thinking. Even my family in the interior would agree, not only is daily life much slower, but the evolution of culture and way people think progresses much more slowly.

I'd be happy to discuss the perks natives receive with you, because they really don't cancel out the bigotry.

Native people are granted exemptions in hunting and fishing, but there's a very specific reason for that. It's to help us maintain an integral part of our culture, sure some people inevitably take advantage it, but largely hunting and fishing is largely only done for sustenance. It's very different from the disgusting practice of trophy hunting.

Self-governance allows native people to build casinos, bill boards, lease land to the government for use as highways and such, true. The potential for income generation isn't the reason why native people have the ability to self-govern however, it's just a by-product for a select few bands. If a reserve isn't strategically located somewhere that makes the land unusually valuable, that potential doesn't exist. It's luck of the draw, if a population centre developed on your peoples' ancestral lands or an mining company found diamonds you get some extra cash.

I would trade every advantage given to me by the government, with the exception of those meant to preserve my culture, to not experience bigotry.

[AzNightmare]

Gonna play "Devil's Advocate".
If you had never took the time to take a closer look, and say you were completely oblivious to the fake bill.
And then spent it later (if it fooled you, possible it could fool others. Not every cashier scans bills. Let's say it was a 20, not a 100.).

Then what? No problem? Is this when we say "Ignorance is Bliss" ?



Explain... How's it stupid besides the fact you got rid of a counterfeit bill (without even knowing you had one.)

How does police deal with this though.
What if a person really was a victim and didn't know and ended up spending the money?
If someone got tricked in the first place by the initial touch/sight of the bill, good chances are he/she might not even notice later on.
Not everyone goes back home and examines their bills after it's in their wallet.

Since this thread got bumped, and no one really answered me the first time around... I'll try again.

[TRDood]

Haha you must be retarded to get scammed with fake bills on CRAIGSLIST
Call the kid back and beat the fuck out of him if you can't get the money back
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I just sold my black berry playbook on CL for 380 bucks. I met up with the young guy, he was about 22 years old if that, tall white guy, dressed nice. He gave me one $100 bill two $50's and the rest in $20's. I was able to go to the back finally two days after the transaction, I get there, every single one of the bills are counterfit bills. I call the VPD non emergancy line, the lady didnt even bother to write a report for me, she said there wasnt a point in writting one because if they did catch the guy they could not prove that he know they where all fake, even though I had all the texts we shared and still have his phone number.


:seriously: can't tell that they are all fake bills?

Props to the kid for making 3 different counterfeits and STILL fooled you.

[darkfroggy]

Quick question. Planning on selling a big ticket item, I requested the seller to meet at the bank. Can I just ask the teller to verify if the bills are legit?

And if she says everything is legit and I deposit the money in the bank, is it safe to hand over the item to the person or what would be the best way or step in making sure I don't get fake bills?

Holy hell that was a sneaky necro dude.

[HonestTea]

Holy hell that was a sneaky necro dude.

^ What? lol..

[Stormspirit]

I used to sell a bunch of stuff on craigslist all the time never encountered this problem maybe because all the people I see look legit . I don't even bother checking the bills. Never had any problems feel bad for OP.

Anyhow for the post regarding meeting at the person's house, I would never let anyone meet at my house unless I'm super lazy or the item is too big to move on my part. It doesn't feel safe letting some stranger buyer knowing where I live. Never know you could be selling an iPhone 4GS nowadays at your house and if he thinks you have more in the house and tell his gangsta wannabe friends... yea ....

[Gridlock]

Not serious; I was just responding to Hondaracer, dizzystar and unit's ridiculous racist statements with something equally absurd.

I am native, but I'm not an alcoholic and would never take advantage of another person.

I would like to commend you for posting here, and calling people out on their shit.

I get so tired of racial stereotypes thrown around, across all members of a given race and people are cool with it.

And I think, sadly, natives take the worst of it.

I hadn't had a lot, or any really experience with natives before moving to BC. Well, I grew up in an area whiter than Tide, so really I didn't have experience with anyone that wasn't crispy white.

Anyway, I had hired a guy this summer that was native and I didn't know until my girlfriend mentioned it. With me, it made absolutely no difference, so I wasn't even really going to notice anyway.

Super nice guy, normal, great worker. I can name a few more people that fall in the same category. My girlfriend worked with a lot of natives in her line of work, and has 100's of great, normal, constructive work and personal relationships with native people.

Unfortunately, you see that one stereotype and people are happy and content to use the word "ALL".

Yes, the native community struggles with a lot of demons. I don't want to go anywhere near historic issues. We are all aware of what happened, there is only so much that can be done about it, and its time to move on.

Holding a group of people back by using the word "all" is worse than what happened to begin with, because its done today when we are supposed to be enlightened.

[Glove]

I love RS, every discussion becomes a race war, and on that note.

when selling something, keep these footnotes on hand.

white people = will haggle based on quality of product

asian people = will always lowball you, but if they do that means they want it, just stand firm on the price and they will eventually pay it, cant blame them for looking for a deal.

brown people = will always lowball you AFTER they have already agree'd on the initial price/deal, and standing right at your door, trying to get every last dollar out of you, these are tricky because they will not buy the product if they dont feel they are getting a stellar deal, their blood tells them to wait for a better deal

Natives = just try and rob you

blacks = hit or miss, some are really genuine, some try and rob you

[Gridlock]

:seriously: can't tell that they are all fake bills?

Props to the kid for making 3 different counterfeits and STILL fooled you.

Well, that's just smart. If I hand you 3 fake 100's and a real 50, you can immediately feel the difference.

If you go all in, everything feels real nice and uniform.

[twitchyzero]

regarding last min low balls...i only accept offers before meet-up.
that's why i feel buyer should come to seller...that way if they lowball you just refuse to sell so you don't waste much effort/time and they'll just cave for the original agreed upon price.

also agreed never meet at your own house as a seller unless it's a large furniture/heavy ass item.

For those that don't meet at your own house to sell like used electronics...do you bring like a power adapter for your car if buyer wants to test it out? lol

[InvisibleSoul]

I just sold my black berry playbook on CL for 380 bucks. I met up with the young guy, he was about 22 years old if that, tall white guy, dressed nice. He gave me one $100 bill two $50's and the rest in $20's. I was able to go to the back finally two days after the transaction, I get there, every single one of the bills are counterfit bills. I call the VPD non emergancy line, the lady didnt even bother to write a report for me, she said there wasnt a point in writting one because if they did catch the guy they could not prove that he know they where all fake, even though I had all the texts we shared and still have his phone number.

Is his phone number disconnected now?

[GLOW]

For those that don't meet at your own house to sell like used electronics...do you bring like a power adapter for your car if buyer wants to test it out? lol

I meet in a mall, coffee shop, etc and use a convenience/housekeeping receptacle. but that's for portable stuff

[MindBomber]

And I think, sadly, natives take the worst of it.


Thank you for posting your perspective on the issue, I appreciate another person with an informed perspective stepping up to help people understand how wrong these sterotypes are.

Racism against natives is socially acceptable, that's why we take the worst of it. If those guys had made comparable comments about any other race they would almost definitely have been banned, but instead they received numerous thanks.

[HollyZ32]

Is his phone number disconnected now?

its still connected

[skiiipi]

its still connected

Time to assemble RS Beat Down crew!
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[z-33]

I love RS, every discussion becomes a race war, and on that note.

when selling something, keep these footnotes on hand.

white people = will haggle based on quality of product

asian people = will always lowball you, but if they do that means they want it, just stand firm on the price and they will eventually pay it, cant blame them for looking for a deal.

brown people = will always lowball you AFTER they have already agree'd on the initial price/deal, and standing right at your door, trying to get every last dollar out of you, these are tricky because they will not buy the product if they dont feel they are getting a stellar deal, their blood tells them to wait for a better deal

Natives = just try and rob you

blacks = hit or miss, some are really genuine, some try and rob you

dude are u kidding me. asians are the cheeziest people on the face of the planet.

[bartone]

its still connected

Should Email the guy back pretending to be another seller offering a even cheaper price and arrange a meet

Anyways... I just sold something on CL and I arranged the meet at their bank. I watched as he withdrew the money from the teller so I didn't need to worry too much about fake bills
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[xilley]

i personally dont understand how you couldnt tell the difference, i ve seen counterfiets and the silver bar just dont cut it. it looks like a sticker sticked on to it.

do you have pictures of it?
because most of the time thats all i look at and you could tell right away on the spot.

[InvisibleSoul]

its still connected
I'm surprised a scammer would give you a real number.

Have you tried to contact him again and ask what's up, or decided to just suck up the loss?

[Psykopathik]

dude are u kidding me. asians are the cheeziest people on the face of the planet.

I believe you mean the Swiss.

[xilley]

I'm surprised a scammer would give you a real number.

Have you tried to contact him again and ask what's up, or decided to just suck up the loss?

i highly doubt its his real number, mostly likely a ghost phone

[racerman88]

always meet the buyer at a Tim Horton's or anywhere that I can get the bills checked before completing the sale

[bloodmack]

chugs :lol

[unit]

Time to assemble RS Beat Down crew!
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you mean diggy and hyde? lansdowne mall or blenz?

[bloodmack]

Its just a word people, if it hurts you man up cause in the end its just a word..

[hotjoint]

Its just a word people, if it hurts you man up cause in the end its just a word..

go call a black person the N word. After they kick your ass, come back and tell us that it's just a word :fullofwin:

[HollyZ32]

I'm surprised a scammer would give you a real number.

Have you tried to contact him again and ask what's up, or decided to just suck up the loss?

I tried calling once but he didnt answer. Then I thought to myself, im a smaller younger blonde chick, how intimidating am I really, and what would i say if he even answered lol. so I decided to suck it up, and take it as an expensive life leason lol

[spideyv2]

go call a black person the N word. After they kick your ass, come back and tell us that it's just a word :fullofwin:

Nigerian? :troll:

[bloodmack]

go call a black person the N word. After they kick your ass, come back and tell us that it's just a word :fullofwin:

I have and I will again. Im not afraid of niggers unlike your bitch ass LOL

[CRS]

I have and I will again. Im not afraid of niggers unlike your bitch ass LOL

:suspicious:

I would pay to see this.

[G35_]

There are way too many of the fake 100's out right now.