[import_luva]

I just wanted to get ur guy's opinion and/or experience. Im looking to lease either an evo or sti. ive watched review videos and all that stuff, from wat ive seen the evo its a better car all around. But i just wanted to see wat u guys had to say, evo or sti? the only reason im not all for the evo is cuz of the shitty interior, sti on the other hand has a fairly nice and comfortable looking interior.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

EVO has always outperform STi in the past, till today.



EVOs interior blows balls in the past decade, and even in the EVo 10 it still is horrific. THe new STi's interior design actually step up a lot

[.Renn.Sport]

GRB STI > EVO X

[rawr]

the STI definitely looks better than the evo. however, the evo drives better. both cars are outstanding performers, so it doesn't really matter.

are you looking for a MT or dual clutch evo? have you actually considered a 370z, or perhaps a 135i?

[Jackygor]

drive both...you will know right away which one you want. What are you goals for the car?

[ilvtofu]

I like the hatchback practicality of the STi so not only does the interior feel better it's also more usable. The base model/price here is pretty good IMO 2k less than the base evo, With minor suspension upgrades with that money you save I would assume the STi can probably run with the evo. Then again the evo is a cooler looking car and stock car outperforms, but i don't know much about mitsubishi's durability overall.

[1exotic]

If your looking for a car will heavy balls get the EVO. If your looking for something with "better" interior get STI.

EVO all the way.

[import_luva]

im looking at the mt evo. i think the evo mr is the only model that comes in mt if im not mistaken.

i would be leasing it so no big plans, just rims and suspension upgrades

[falcon]

I really like the EVo 8 and 9. The 10 does nothing for me.

That being said, a close frined of mine has a white 09 STI. Full exhaust, stage 2 cobb access port, suspension and the car hauls. So fun to drive and it looks wicked.

[RCubed]

I would've considered the evo if it had a 6spd.
But I'm extremely satisfied with my GRB. =)

[Jackygor]

im looking at the mt evo. i think the evo mr is the only model that comes in mt if im not mistaken.

i would be leasing it so no big plans, just rims and suspension upgrades

Then I guess long term issue isn't too much of a problem. I honestly think it comes down to if you need the trunk space or not. The evo x has non existent trunk space while the STI is a hatch back. Another thing is probably the payment, which one is cheaper to lease. Honestly, they are both really similar cars. Handling wise, I have heard that the STI tends to handle worst because of the tires and it is more prone to understeering, while the people have said that Evo tends to handling like a rwd car. I also believe that evo x is a little bit more "raw".

[falcon]

Funny you say that because the STI's drivetrain is RWD based and the EVO is a FWD based drivetrain.

[RC0310_EJ]

im looking at the mt evo. i think the evo mr is the only model that comes in mt if im not mistaken.

Evo X MR only comes with SST..

GSR is manual only

[import_luva]

^ o ok thank u. and yea the 5psd for the evo throws me off and could be annoying during long drives. thanks for the input guys. ill post up with the car i choose lol

[Jackygor]

Funny you say that because the STI's drivetrain is RWD based and the EVO is a FWD based drivetrain.

Ironically yes, it also has to do with the how the awd actually work between the 2 ;). One thing that makes the STI handle worst is the craptastic tires it comes with stock, while evo x OEM tires are like extreme performance tire.

[nack]

its an endless debate
watch what top gear had to say
YouTube- Mitsubishi Evo vs. Subaru Impreza - Top Gear - BBC

[TOPEC]

Ironically yes, it also has to do with the how the awd actually work between the 2 ;). One thing that makes the STI handle worst is the craptastic tires it comes with stock, while evo x OEM tires are like extreme performance tire.

they both come with extreme performance tires.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=SP+Sport+600&partnum=44WR8600&autoMake=Subaru&autoYear=2008&autoModel=Impreza%20WRX%20STI%205%20Door&autoModClar=With%20OE%20Metal%20Valve%20Stems

stop giving out false information.

in fact, that EVO comes with ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE tires.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=ADVAN+A13C&partnum=44YR8A13C&autoMake=Mitsubishi&autoYear=2009&autoModel=Lancer%20Evolution&autoModClar=MR

[Jackygor]

they both come with extreme performance tires.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=SP+Sport+600&partnum=44WR8600&autoMake=Subaru&autoYear=2008&autoModel=Impreza%20WRX%20STI%205%20Door&autoModClar=With%20OE%20Metal%20Valve%20Stems

stop giving out false information.

in fact, that EVO comes with ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE tires.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=ADVAN+A13C&partnum=44YR8A13C&autoMake=Mitsubishi&autoYear=2009&autoModel=Lancer%20Evolution&autoModClar=MR

I do apologize for my lack of research in regards to the dunlops, however, you do know that the SP Sport 600 is rated along lines with the RE-11, Kumho MX/XS, Z1 star specs. While the ADVAN A13C is in the class of general UHP, S. Drive, Kumho SPT...etc, right? I was merely trying to defend the STI and explain why it handles worst than the Evo in stock form. It is also mentioned in edmund insideline stating that

"Our 2008 STI's 0.90g skid pad performance (while exceptional) is slightly below the old car's 0.93g effort. Perhaps the 245/40R18 Dunlop Sport SP 600 tires don't have as much ultimate grip as the Bridgestone Potenza RE070s of old. At the same time, we couldn't feel the difference on the open road, where real corners that feature direction changes more closely mimic the slalom."

http://www.insideline.com/subaru/impreza-wrx-sti/2008/full-test-2008-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti.html

I guess since the advans A13c are rated lower than the dunlops, it must be other factors why the Evo handles better than a STI? Maybe you can chime in.

No need to be all hostile and pointing fingers now, I am a Evo owner, but I do like the STI very much.

[VK79]

Generally it is agreed that if your car is more of a track day toy + a little daily driving the evo is more fun, however if you plan to drive it daily to work/school and maybe take it to the track once in a purple moon, its better to stick to the STi.

Driven both and personally prefer the STi for the 6sp, somewhat higher quality interior and practicality of the hatch configuration.

[Z3guy]

wow, I thought the STI and EVO were close....after watching the Jeremy Clarkson vid, makes me like the EVO more:)

[skyxx]

SUBIE CAMP VS MITSU CAMP AKA RXRenesis VS Jackygor. :lol

[gnat.]

test drive both to see which one you like more.
but looks wise, personally, STi > EVO!
especially after the STi has been modified! MMM white with black rims!!!!

[124Y]

Performance wise, stock for stock the EVO X outperforms the STI, but it's pretty close, so it's pretty much down to personal preferences. From my personal experience, here's how I see the two cars:

Things I like about the EVO:
-It's hot damn! (Looks better than the STI IMO)
-Stock for stock it feels more firm.
-Seats are more akin to aftermarket bucket seats. The stock STI seats feel softer and less hard-core.
-Red brake calipers with Brembo lettering.
-Middle interior air vents position (I find the STI's to be too low for my liking)
-More storage room below climate control bezels, behind center cup holders, and etc.
-Stock wheels (either the 12-spoke enkei or the BBS) looks good. I'm not a fan of the STI's 5-spoke wheels and the 18-spoke BBS must be a bitch to clean)
-Dash design looks better and is more aggressive (needles start @ 6 o'clock position and the cover on top protrudes out more).

Things I like about the STI:
-Boxer engine rumble makes me jizz in my pants.
-6MT available
-Seats recline by pulling a lever instead of rotating a knob, which takes forever.
-"STI" badges everywhere (You don't get the "evolution" badge everywhere in the evo)
-Rear seats fold down and storage space in the hatch is far superior than the evo's tiny trunk.
-Needle sweep on start-up.
-Quad-tip exhaust vs the EVO's dual tip.
-Has a lock for the glove compartment.
-The "beep" when locking the car sounds better than the evo's "honk".
-Foot rest is metallic (matches the pedals unlike the EVO)
-Stock shift knob doesn't look cheap at all.
-Base model has projector housing VS the reflector housing for the base EVO.
-LED tail lights (Only the center brake light on the trunk is in LEDs)
-Sunroof! (For the Canadian market, sunroof is available only on the MR for the evo, which is the SST version). No sunroof for evo GSRs (not sure for 2010 models though).

Those are mere subtle points that may seem too little to make a difference, but in the whole package, it just might affect one's choice. It was a tough choice for me a year ago, but what made me pull the trigger is 0% financing from Mitsubishi!

[JSALES]

another debate haha

[fishing666]

watch initial D 1st stage. 2nd stage. 3rd stage. 4th stage for detailed analysis on both cars. who knows u might end up with purchasing a panda car

[TOPEC]

I do apologize for my lack of research in regards to the dunlops, however, you do know that the SP Sport 600 is rated along lines with the RE-11, Kumho MX/XS, Z1 star specs. While the ADVAN A13C is in the class of general UHP, S. Drive, Kumho SPT...etc, right? I was merely trying to defend the STI and explain why it handles worst than the Evo in stock form. It is also mentioned in edmund insideline stating that

"Our 2008 STI's 0.90g skid pad performance (while exceptional) is slightly below the old car's 0.93g effort. Perhaps the 245/40R18 Dunlop Sport SP 600 tires don't have as much ultimate grip as the Bridgestone Potenza RE070s of old. At the same time, we couldn't feel the difference on the open road, where real corners that feature direction changes more closely mimic the slalom."

http://www.insideline.com/subaru/impreza-wrx-sti/2008/full-test-2008-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti.html

I guess since the advans A13c are rated lower than the dunlops, it must be other factors why the Evo handles better than a STI? Maybe you can chime in.

No need to be all hostile and pointing fingers now, I am a Evo owner, but I do like the STI very much.

i thought u drove an evo x?

one reason that i posted long ago y the evo can out handle the sti is because of the diffs in the evo. vary the power from side to side and front to back, u end up with one wheel drive powering through the corners, no understeer, no oversteer. re: look up AYC

now some people will come in and say but the sti has a electronic center diff which varied power front and rear too! the truth is NO, its doesnt work like the way u think it does.

and no im not trying to be hostile, i am just merely pointing out the wrong facts so people dont get mislead.

[jeff_alexander]

http://flipthatbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bentley-finger-car-ad.jpg

[What_the?]

i vote for the boxer rumble... seriously...

[JSALES]

i prefer the STI

[valent|n0]

when I am thinking of getting evo or sti ( not that I am thinking to get it for real) :P
it always comes down to value. which car depreciate less is the one I would get

SO I think of it this way
Subaru has way better market here in NA.
Mitsubishi almost went bankrupt I don't know how many times.
I think Subaru will have higher resale value won't it?
so I would get an STI




... errr damn it! ...
re reading OP's post, you said "leasing" ... so my post is useless but I'll post it anyway, because I can LOL :)

[import_luva]

thanks for the input guys. just outta curiosity is there anyone here leasing either cars and wat r ur monthly payments?

[jaretron]

pick which one you think looks better.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

go test drive it and see what you like


this whole EVO/STI rival thing has been going on for decades

personally... i prefer the EVo

[BEEB]

I'd driven both and owned one in the past 5 years. I would say that the Subaru is less refined and on the wilder side. Like, driving an older E36 M3. But on the other hand, the EVO is more of a time attack machine, good steering response and points to the direction you want. Just like a E92 M3 with loads of technology. If your gonna pick, I would go with the exterior of the car. Both are very fast car that you have excessive power for daily use already. It's easy to pick, hb vs 4 door sedan.

[optiblue]

I vote Evo just because I ended up getting one... curse Mitsubishi for introducing the SST though!! A 6spd would have been perfect!

[trollguy]

the evo has a faster rack than an sti (sti has a rack the equivalent of a '98 beetle). :D

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

EVO ...... pronounce as EVIL, anyone ever wonder why?


EVO powaaa btw




u dont pronounce EVILlution
but EV OO lution



yet ppl say EVIL, EVIL 10, so EVIL la

[triplexcel]

no comment...

[cococly]

thanks for the input guys. just outta curiosity is there anyone here leasing either cars and wat r ur monthly payments?

2010 STI Base = $62X/month(including tax) for 48months with zero Down for me.

[6insomnia9]

I like the hatchback practicality of the STi so not only does the interior feel better it's also more usable. The base model/price here is pretty good IMO 2k less than the base evo, With minor suspension upgrades with that money you save I would assume the STi can probably run with the evo. Then again the evo is a cooler looking car and stock car outperforms, but i don't know much about mitsubishi's durability overall.

Pft you and your ugly hatchbacks

[Jackygor]

i thought u drove an evo x?

one reason that i posted long ago y the evo can out handle the sti is because of the diffs in the evo. vary the power from side to side and front to back, u end up with one wheel drive powering through the corners, no understeer, no oversteer. re: look up AYC

now some people will come in and say but the sti has a electronic center diff which varied power front and rear too! the truth is NO, its doesnt work like the way u think it does.

and no im not trying to be hostile, i am just merely pointing out the wrong facts so people dont get mislead.

STi uses mechanical diffs while evo x uses electrical diffs with magnetic clutches I believe. I do own a Evo X, but I also believe that if STI were to equip with a gripper tire, it would handle closer with an Evo, that is all. I think JDM spec STI uses bridgestones, but I can't dig up the source for that, I could be wrong though.

[Kaiten]

EVO ...... pronounce as EVIL, anyone ever wonder why?


EVO powaaa btw




u dont pronounce EVILlution
but EV OO lution



yet ppl say EVIL, EVIL 10, so EVIL la

Come again?

[RCubed]

EVO ...... pronounce as EVIL, anyone ever wonder why?


EVO powaaa btw




u dont pronounce EVILlution
but EV OO lution



yet ppl say EVIL, EVIL 10, so EVIL la
http://de.motiv.me/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/crack_it_fucks_you_up.jpg

[belka]

Drove both, went with the STi.

[y2k?!?-]

both are beautiful cars.
Id wayyy rather take the Evo tho :(
Sorry WRX :(

[import_luva]

Drove both, went with the STi.

ive driven sti's before never evo. still need to experience that.

[TOS'd]

i thought you couldnt test drive an evo at a dealership cause they dont have any there until you order and pay for it? so i guess you have to find someone with an evo willing to let you drive it?

[import_luva]

lots of the mitsu dealers have evos. i no kingsway has one, nvan has one, rich has one and some local dealers

[124Y]

lots of the mitsu dealers have evos. i no kingsway has one, nvan has one, rich has one and some local dealers

They wont let you test drive it lol. They'll tell you it's part of their policy.:rolleyes:

[Mancini]

Once I've narrowed down my list of candidates I've always considered the following things:

1. The driving feel of the car - unless you're going to do track days extensively the actual lap times don't matter. How do the ergonomics fit you? Do the steering, handling & controls feel right? Does it put a smile on your face or not?

2. Build quality - this includes perceived build quality - is there a difference between the cars? No matter how much you like a car, if it's regularly causing you problems it will not be long before you hate it. Always buy quality first.

3. Does the car fit your economic situation? - resale value. Cost of repairs. Other costs. Is your economic situation a factor.

Right off the bat I'd pick the Subie because it's a hatchback. I have an outdoor lifestyle and a hatch helps. However, since both cars are candidates then that's probably not an issue for you.

The priority you give these 3 things can change depending on where you're at in life. But you must consider them or you might regret your purchase.

[import_luva]

They wont let you test drive it lol. They'll tell you it's part of their policy.:rolleyes:

thats dumb, i wouldnt purchase a car without driving it first