[Warp9Racing]

heres the scoop

its time to find my GF a new car...but the problem is shes picky...no toyotas/hondas/acuras etc.
she cant drive stick.WRX auto is hard to find and outta the budget.

so we're looking at an 2010 SER. taxes in we found a deal for $25000/ 60months no intrest, comes with sport pacakge and tech pack,cvt w/paddle shifters(navi/sunroof/lsd)

what do you guys think of these cars...i know the old SERs had issues but shes not the type to drive the car hard...

opinions...anyone on the board have one?
we're also thinking lancer gts and mazda 3 gt but those come close to $30000 top of the line i think

thanks!

[tofu1413]

has to be a four door..?

Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T w/ 5AT tiptronic. cant go wrong with that.

[Warp9Racing]

yeah it has to be 4 door....for future expansion ;)
oh, and no hyundais/kia's lol...i said she's picky.....
and for those that are gonna ask...i already did a search...

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

ask mr coach hines


he can tell you all about it
:thumbsup:

[Pt20]

No toyota
No honda
No acura
No kia
No hyundai
No manual
No coupe
No base model

lol
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

wtf is wrong with you ppl, keep on suggesting ppl to get a hyundai and a kia. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: If you love it so much why not sell whatever you are driving and be a sportsmanship by owning one first

[Leopold Stotch]

They seem like decent cars. compared to your other choices the power is there at least. my sister has the Lancer gts and i must say, i dislike driving it very much.


if she can stand the lack luster interior of the sentra and the guaranteed rattles then IMO it's great bang for your buck. although i do find CVT transmissions odd.

[Pt20]

wtf is wrong with you ppl, keep on suggesting ppl to get a hyundai and a kia. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: If you love it so much why not sell whatever you are driving and be a sportsmanship by owning one first

she doesn't want a base model, and they're buying new, and doesn't wanna push 30 grand. doesn't leave many options.

i'm gonna assume she doesn't want a domestic car either. so i'm gonna go ahead and ask.. what other options fit her criteria other than the sentra?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

still lots options, doesnt mean she has to go with koreans



Mazda 3, Jetta, Sentra, Altima, Lancer GTS, Ralliart if u are lucky

[124Y]

There isn't that many options given the amount of constraint that's set. The only other cars that I can think of is the Lancer or the Impreza. If you still consider them as "base models" (since there's the Ralliart, the EVO, the WRX, and the STI) I can't think of any other cars off the spot. Well...perhaps a Nissan Cube or a Mini Cooper?

[Noizz]

If you can do without the leather seats and sunroof, I purchased a Mazda 3 GT sedan automatic with no additional options for $23,000 and it comes very well equipped. The base GT isn't 'base' at all, you get a lot of features for the money:

- 167hp, 168tq, dual exhaust
- Xenon HIDs, Fogs, LED tails
- Bucket seats with sport cloth
- Interior illumination, ambient LED
- Dual climate control, heated seats (5 levels)
- MID (Multi-Information Display) shows avg fuel comp., avg speed, range, current fuel consumption
- Traction/stability control
- 17" rims, leather wrapped steering/knob

I believe the 2010 Mazda 3 is the first compact car in the market to incorporate dual climate control and Xenons. I highly suggest you take it for a test drive. The interior is amazing IMO and the smiley face will grow on you. :D

Leather/power adjusting seat +$1,300, Sunroof +$900. There's also the GT-E package which is +2,000 and adds navi, keyless entry, but users say the Mazda 3 navi is terrible and it would be better just getting a Garmin. I was in the same position as your gf earlier this year and I looked at the Civic Si, Corolla S, Lancer GTS, Sentra SE-R, Matrix XRS, Impreza, Fit, and the list goes on.

[jpark]

wtf is wrong with you ppl, keep on suggesting ppl to get a hyundai and a kia. If you love it so much why not sell whatever you are driving and be a sportsmanship by owning one first

haterrrr :rolleyes:

[XtC-604]

Why not Honda/ Acura? Reliable, better interor than the SER and its cheap

[seekerbeta]

you may find the SER has some lackluster performance when paired with a CVT (they tend to whine when you try to lay on it) but the 2007+ Sentra doesn't have the same problems as the 2000 - 2006 Spec-V (Pre-Cat Burnup and Butterfly Screw Issues) Lots of B15 Lovers dont like the styling of the b15/c16 Sentra, but i do, and if i had the money, i would replace my 2002 SpecV with a 2010 (especially with the Auto Navigation Built In). the plastics and such have been replaced and upgraded so they dont feel so cheap, and if i remember Driving TV Placed it Second on a list of 20 Compact Cars a couple years back. remember, that even though the car has 4 doors, its listed as a 2+2 Configuration (2 People comfortable for everyday driving, and 2 more in a "Compact Mode" but you shouldn't have to worry about that till your "future expansions" crest 4 feet

[freakshow]

Go with the Mazda 3...

[RollingStone]

I'd buy a Mazda 3 as well. The Sentra is just not on par quality wise with Honda/Mazda in this category imo.

[PiuYi]

how much are VW golfs? or is no hatchback a constraint as well?

[rawr]

GTI four door? Or is that out of budget?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss249/Spoony85/joker.jpg

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss249/Spoony85/mazda3LOL.jpg

if you are able to tolerate that look, by all means jump in. :rolleyes:


looks like a joke


BTW, you need to get your eyes checked

[Mr.Jay]

^ that 2nd pic made me laugh

i hate the styling of the new 3 and thus i wouldn't suggest one but it does come pretty well equipped.

[1990TSI]

wtf is wrong with you ppl, keep on suggesting ppl to get a hyundai and a kia. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: If you love it so much why not sell whatever you are driving and be a sportsmanship by owning one first

Oh hai. ^___^:;

I sold my japanese car to buy a hyundai, and if I was in the mood for a small SUV I'd pick a Soul over a cube or whatever scion calls it's box.


If you need to know why people suggest a Genesis, you need to get your head outta your ass.

[tofu1413]

^ pretty much.

if i was in the market for a new car for under 30k... genesis coupe 2.0GT would be my pick.


it breaking down shouldnt be a prb... warranty ftw

[optiblue]

The audi A3 is good looking car

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

mazdaspeed 3 > genesis

[JiggaZed]

mazdaspeed 3 > genesis

This is true. Genesis is slightly quicker, but the speed 3 handles a lot better and is slightly cheaper as well.

[umpadupa]

The audi A3 is good looking car

it is.. too bad the electrical part isnt Audi's best friend.
my aunt leased an Audi A4 2003-2006... always had problems... but the tq is fuking beastly!!!

[minivan_don]

my friend might be selling his mint 08 sentra ser spec v. 6spd, 30k kms i think. silver on black. really fun car!

[Mr.Jay]

Oh hai. ^___^:;

I sold my japanese car to buy a hyundai, and if I was in the mood for a small SUV I'd pick a Soul over a cube or whatever scion calls it's box.


If you need to know why people suggest a Genesis, you need to get your head outta your ass.

Kai - Soul
Nissan - Cube
Scion - xB
Honda - Element

sooo many boxes :haha:


I consider Hyundai one of the few car companies that are really evolving and listening to the customers. Look how far they have come, from the Accent to the Genesis. On paper its what car people wanted: affordable, light (ish), RWD coupe. Also I think this will cause the other companies to bring back their entry RWD cars again.

Plus if you pay attention to motor sports you will know that Hyundai has been upping their preformance and really want to start delveloping cars that can compete. For example in WRC, when they enter I laughed soo hard at this cheap car company trying to run with the big boys but after they started to constantly break into the top 10 as well as beat out Mitsubishi for 4th place in the manufacturers' world championship standings you have to give them some credit.

I would never buy a Hyundai but now with the Genesis I would consider it. especially so in a couple years when/if their build quality is proven

[dinamix]

fuck nissan
heres my story

GF bought brand new 2005 brand new nissan sentra GXE loaded for $30000+ because everyone and the moms drove a honda and or toyota.she wanted the "uniqueness".i tried to convince her to buy an RSX , civic si, or a corolla at the time but she wouldnt listen.


she Drove it for 125,000 hwk k's. after 4 years headgasket blew.shocks blew. starter went. stereo broke. exhaust leak.nissan quoted 3000 to fix headgasket.fixed it for 1000 somewhere else.
we tried to trade in the car to same dealership we bought it from (morrey nissan). they offered us 1500 on a trade in for another used car. car depreciated over 90% which bullshit. now shes out 28000 G's of lost depreciation.


my dads 1990 corolla has over 350,000 with no major maintenance over $200 at a time. he paid 13000. and cost of ownership is still going down.

lesson learned


heres proof of the garbage they sell.its not only her

http://www.carcomplaints.com/Nissan/Sentra/2005/engine/blown_head_gasket.shtml

buy toyota or honda. she'll save alot more money in the long run

[rageguy]

^
the 2005 is based on the b15 build, which is very different from what the OP's gf is looking at. the gxe has a different engine as well. the OP's gf is looking at the qr25de.

OP, tell your gf to test drive it first. i'm very happy with my se-r.

[Great68]

This is true. Genesis 3.8 Track Package is about equal

Fixed

http://www.insideline.com/mazda/mazdaspeed3/2010/comparison-test-2010-mazdaspeed-3-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html

The Genesis 2.0T is not even worth comparing to the MS3.

[ncrx]

that is a sad story, but u never mentioned if the car was regularly maintained. unlucky perhaps.

i drive a 20yr old nissan that makes 300+ boosted hp and driven hard.

the only thing i've had to replace was the alternator.

there are always horror stories no matter the manufacturer

fuck nissan
heres my story

GF bought brand new 2005 brand new nissan sentra GXE loaded for $30000+ because everyone and the moms drove a honda and or toyota.she wanted the "uniqueness".i tried to convince her to buy an RSX , civic si, or a corolla at the time but she wouldnt listen.


she Drove it for 125,000 hwk k's. after 4 years headgasket blew.shocks blew. starter went. stereo broke. exhaust leak.nissan quoted 3000 to fix headgasket.fixed it for 1000 somewhere else.
we tried to trade in the car to same dealership we bought it from (morrey nissan). they offered us 1500 on a trade in for another used car. car depreciated over 90% which bullshit. now shes out 28000 G's of lost depreciation.


my dads 1990 corolla has over 350,000 with no major maintenance over $200 at a time. he paid 13000. and cost of ownership is still going down.

lesson learned


heres proof of the garbage they sell.its not only her

http://www.carcomplaints.com/Nissan/Sentra/2005/engine/blown_head_gasket.shtml

buy toyota or honda. she'll save alot more money in the long run

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Fixed

http://www.insideline.com/mazda/mazdaspeed3/2010/comparison-test-2010-mazdaspeed-3-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html

The Genesis 2.0T is not even worth comparing to the MS3.

JDM > korean brands any given day



the 05 styling sentra was known for numerous problems. Friend had a SER none spec V, and it was nothing but a pain in the ass. The latest Sentra i heard is a huge step up over the last one tho

[tofu1413]

JDM > korean brands any given day

personal biased opinion.

korean cars are starting to get good, just like how japanese cars were during the start of the 80s till 90s..

back then, it was the same thing. american domestics > japanese crap.

japanese cars are decling in appeal and quality over the last couple of years, while Koreans are going up. its a cycle and a matter of taking turns. next thing we know, Korean cars will be well established like japanese cars of 90's till 2000s, then Chinese cars will be the next korean cars etc.

time will tell. but so far the koreans are doing pretty well, considering back in 85' their Hyundai Pony was absolutely crap. 25 years later we have the Genesis and its a huge step forward for 25 years.



and back on topic: yes, i also had a friend with that B15 style sentra. had a mid trim model.. wasnt a gxe. something else.. not the the XE either. it was pretty crappy for a japanese sedan of that class: crappy build quality, bad gas mileage, minor problems and poor resale value. new one looks wayy more sorted out, but i have no idea. time will tell.

[Gt-R R34]

Can we get back on topic and stop offering
the hyundai? The OP's GF isn't looking @ it.

the Jetta? Non base is just under 30Gs.

[jpark]

personal biased opinion.

korean cars are starting to get good, just like how japanese cars were during the start of the 80s till 90s..

back then, it was the same thing. american domestics > japanese crap.

japanese cars are decling in appeal and quality over the last couple of years, while Koreans are going up. its a cycle and a matter of taking turns. next thing we know, Korean cars will be well established like japanese cars of 90's till 2000s, then Chinese cars will be the next korean cars etc.

time will tell. but so far the koreans are doing pretty well, considering back in 85' their Hyundai Pony was absolutely crap. 25 years later we have the Genesis and its a huge step forward for 25 years.

dude just dont even worry about explaining the facts of korean car development to mugen_evolution, he will never understand an will most likely be a hater for life, waste of time, its like going up to one of those 454 big block v8 slick tire domestic draggers and saying your nissan gtr is better

[JiggaZed]

Fixed

http://www.insideline.com/mazda/mazdaspeed3/2010/comparison-test-2010-mazdaspeed-3-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html

The Genesis 2.0T is not even worth comparing to the MS3.

LOL, I was comparing the 3.8 TP with the MS3. Yes, they are about equal, however, MS3 has better handling. (completely unbiased opinion as I don't care for either car.)

[Warp9Racing]

thanks for all the response guys...
she did drive the SER and loves it, and we;re trying to do the deal now...

I know all about the b15 sentras and as far as i can see there are few problems with b17s since introduced in 07....

[Mancini]

wtf is wrong with you ppl...be a sportsmanship...

Be A Man!

[Mancini]

I'd still be wary of build quality. On the other hand, really fun car for the money.

[DasHooch]

As long as she's driven it and likes it. Might be worth reading some of the more technical forums: http://allsentra.com

Hopefully that site is still up. 2002+ SE-R websites have a funny history of boom and bust and site owner saying 'f**k this'.

If she doesn't mind having loud car, I'd suggest replacing the exhaust manifold with a header just to be safe. Though if she doesn't drive it hard, it probably doesn't matter.

[!Yaminashi]

As long as she likes it thats all that matters. I've got a 2008 which is pretty much the exact same as the 2010.

As for reliability I havent had any problems with my car, and I know the CVT transmissions were now given a 10 yr warranty based on customers complaining how much they cost to repair. The only real problem I have with it is the lack of aftermarket parts *facepalm*

2 things I liked about the car when I test drove it were the good low end torque, and the sound system :p

For the price its a good car, just dont get black